[Rant] Tech Whine Like a baby thread

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Weird.
I mean, I get that there are probably Windows updates that never got installed pending restarts, but so many?

--Patrick
 

Dave

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He might be having the same issues as me. This last Windows update fucked my system something good. I'm reading that several people are having boot issues since the update.
 

GasBandit

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I decided a few weeks ago to save even more electricity that we usually do at night, and actually turn my PC off at night, since I have an SSD and startup takes less than a minute. The first morning I had to boot twice to get to Windows. The second morning took three boots. The third took four. I no longer turn the computer off at night.
Never shut down.
Never reboot.
NEVER.
 
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I hear about all this stuff, but have yet to experience it.
...though, like I said, I still haven't updated to 1903 yet (still on 1809) since I haven't offloaded all of my stuff onto the NAS, since the three drive trays I need to finish the NAS project apparently have to be mined directly from the perilous and nigh-abandoned 5-1/4in valley region of China and won't be arriving until the middle of next month.
...at which point I'll be rolling back to Win7 anyway for this machine, sooo...

--Patrick
 

GasBandit

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I still run windows 7 mostly at home, but my work laptop has experienced driver issues once over these last 4 months to merit 4+ hours of teeth grinding and reinstallation.

I try to combat most of this by putting the laptop to sleep instead of shutting down, and putting it to sleep every time I leave it. And having it automatically go to sleep after 10 minutes of inactivity.

A sleeping laptop doesn't update/apply updates/reboot after updating.
 
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Weird.
I mean, I get that there are probably Windows updates that never got installed pending restarts, but so many?

--Patrick
Nope, no pending updates when it was happening that I know of. It was doing exactly as @Dave's is doing over in his thread, only it came back when I hard rebooted via holding the power button for 5+ seconds. Now it's like Gas says, never reboot, never power down. Scheduled Windows updates (when allowed) only, and the decade or so old surge protector has been upgraded to a brand new, workshop grade product. This was before the August update to 1903 build 18362.295, back in June or July.
 
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God I am so sick of Windows 10 changing my driver settings. I know what I want. You are a bunch of fucking chowder heads who don't know how to test software. Stop changing my drivers!

This post brought to you by the letter H and Windows' having changed something last night in an unprompted reboot which now makes it so that the front headset jack no longer works on my desktop computer.
 
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Welp. Cox took a dump about an hour or so ago. All three services are down and I have no ‘net other than going on Verizon.
 
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Welp. Cox took a dump about an hour or so ago. All three services are down and I have no ‘net other than going on Verizon.
Huh.
Never realized that Cox Communications was a sister company of Auto Trader, Kelly Blue Book, etc.

--Patrick
 
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I'm the complete opposite...I shut my PC off every day, more than once if I go down to eat something or whatever. Sleep/hibernate/powersave/whatever modes have crashed my PC far too often for me to rely on them. And, you know, I'm European so I actually think power consumption matters :p
But anyway, my PC automatically boots up and installs updates somewhere in the middle of the night. I usually don't notice, sometimes I may need to wait at start-up. The only issue I have every time is that for some reason Windows thinks I need to log on using my Microsoft account...While I very deliberately have my PC set to only allow local users to log on. And now it insisted on creating a local PIN to log on, "so much easier"...Yeah, and it's also a 4-digit code to replace my 16-letter-and-symbol password, you dipshits.
 
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I'm the complete opposite...I shut my PC off every day, more than once if I go down to eat something or whatever. Sleep/hibernate/powersave/whatever modes have crashed my PC far too often for me to rely on them. And, you know, I'm European so I actually think power consumption matters :p
But anyway, my PC automatically boots up and installs updates somewhere in the middle of the night. I usually don't notice, sometimes I may need to wait at start-up. The only issue I have every time is that for some reason Windows thinks I need to log on using my Microsoft account...While I very deliberately have my PC set to only allow local users to log on. And now it insisted on creating a local PIN to log on, "so much easier"...Yeah, and it's also a 4-digit code to replace my 16-letter-and-symbol password, you dipshits.
Yeah, it forced that PIN on me when I set my computer back up after the rebuild last year, but it let me use letters too, so I made the PIN something REALLY OFFENSIVE, because I shouldn't need to use a PIN to log in to a computer that I can physically restrict users from.
 
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I have a Microsoft account.
I have a computer running WinX.
Neither one knows about the other, and never will.
Shhhh...

--Patrick
 

GasBandit

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One of my hard drives just crapped out.

It's the one that has all my MMD stuff on it >_<
 
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Wow. My debit card recently expired, so today when I ordered something from a large online retailer, I had to enter a new card number. I then gave Google Chrome permission to save the card information. Seconds later I got an email from Google telling me that I'd just authorized a new card for my Google Play account, but that it was missing some info. Sure enough, it attempted (and failed) to parse my debit card info from Chrome's card number saving feature to my Play account. Google can really, really, really get fasterisked. With a bloody rake.
 
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Cool. My pc crashed. Reboots fine or so I thought but now it grinds to halt on signing into Windows. Can't do anything once I'm in. Can't even reboot it. I have literally no idea what's wrong.

Good timing too. Couldn't afford to replace anything if I needed to anyway.
 
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Well, that was a miserable 2 hours. Couldn't even fucking start it into safe mode or repair or roll anything back because....reasons? Windows 10 decided my Microsoft account password wasn't correct, despite the fact that I could sign in from my phone just fine with it. Refused to let me do fucking anything. EXTREMELY frustrating. I had to drive to a friend's house to use their laptop to make a USB installation key.

Get to stare at this now until I manage to get shit back to how I had it.

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All I have left is Steam because it was installed on my game drive.

Congrats on being my first bookmark HF.
 
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Well, that was a miserable 2 hours. Couldn't even fucking start it into safe mode or repair or roll anything back because....reasons? Windows 10 decided my Microsoft account password wasn't correct, despite the fact that I could sign in from my phone just fine with it. Refused to let me do fucking anything. EXTREMELY frustrating. I had to drive to a friend's house to use their laptop to make a USB installation key.

Get to stare at this now until I manage to get shit back to how I had it.

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All I have left is Steam because it was installed on my game drive.

Congrats on being my first bookmark HF.
If you can avoid it, never sign in with a microsoft account again.

Ain't no one putting that bad mojo on my machine.
 
Yeah, I really enjoyed it when Windows 10 lost my user profile, and would let me sign in, but there was nothing in my computer anymore. I could log on as a guest, and there was just nothing there. All of the data was still on the hard drive - it showed 70% full, chkdsk still ran, anything remotely DOS-based still functioned fine, but once you logged in with a Windows ID, everything was gone. Why? My user profile had become corrupted, so I was no longer allowed to access any of my old apps, documents, games, or anything else, in case I wasn't who I said I was. The solution? Buy a new copy of Windows 10 and reinstall. I'm on my third god damn copy of this bullshit "operating system," and every time something goes wrong the advice I get is "well, don't let Microsoft have that much control." What do you want me to do, go back in time and invest in a competitor? Buy Apple so I have to replace literally every piece of tech in my house? Attempt to install Ubuntu and hope that I don't need a "signed" Nvidia driver? There are no other options aside from letting Microsoft have as much control as they want, once you're stuck on Windows 10. If I could, I would happily go back and buy another copy of 7 - but all of the copies for sale online have massive warnings on the site that the keys may not be valid anymore, so that's right out. Nobody will admit to having a spare key for Windows 7, so that's out as well. So yeah, the advice not to let Microsoft have that much control is bullshit for 90% of us struggling with their crap.
 
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Win10 no longer allows anything else. It's completely ridiculous from a security standpoint.
I don't have a Microsoft account on my machine, just a user account. I'm on the latest version as well. It's really stupid that once you sign in with a Microsoft account you are forced to use it, and during installation it makes it appear like you need one, but you can choose not to create one and just use a local account instead.
 
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I don't have a Microsoft account on my machine, just a user account. I'm on the latest version as well. It's really stupid that once you sign in with a Microsoft account you are forced to use it, and during installation it makes it appear like you need one, but you can choose not to create one and just use a local account instead.
One of the last updates forced me. And I do mean - forced. Local account was connected to MS account and he then refused to log me on with my local PW.
 
One of the last updates forced me. And I do mean - forced. Local account was connected to MS account and he then refused to log me on with my local PW.
This was always the point behind Windows 8 and up. Microsoft had to keep pushing it back because of massive instabilities in their user account hierarchy, but from the time Windows 8 was in final development they were officially planning on forcing all Windows users to sign in to their computer with their Microsoft account. The only reason it didn't roll out successfully in Windows 8 was because too many of the (internal) testers kept getting locked out when they or their kids picked up Xbox Live bans for bad behavior, and the customer feedback over losing complete and total access to their computers because of a game server ban was a deafening roar. I was working there at the time, and trapped under an NDA, but if you go back through either the archives here or the wayback machine, you should see a post back in 2011 or 2012 sometime from a Mayan Sun God, warning about the upcoming intention. That was me, breaking my NDA.
 
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Windows 10 decided my Microsoft account password wasn't correct, despite the fact that I could sign in from my phone just fine with it.
Just want to remind everyone that this is a possible symptom of date/time being wrong, so before hulking out, duck into the BIOS real quick and make sure the date/time are correct (and that your LAN is enabled!), then try again.
Win10 no longer allows anything else. It's completely ridiculous from a security standpoint.
I probably haven't done a clean install of WinX since 1803 or so, but I remember the option to create a local account was still there, you just had to click your way through a bunch of scary-looking security warnings to get there. And then during the setup you had to confirm you really didn't want to sign in about a frillion more times.
Apple, as tied-together as they want you to be, also used to allow you to link your user and iCloud accounts/passwords, but since Spring of 2016 they walked it back and won't even let you try any more, ostensibly because allowing you to have the same password everywhere is a big fat security hole.

--Patrick
 
Now I feel bad about being mad at whoever set up my Mom's Win10 install. She forgot her PIN (I've never seen a PIN on a PC before.) and she forgot her google password. I was just planning on hitting her pc with a password crack I have. Then realized that since it is tied to MS and google, there was nothing I could do.
 
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Just want to remind everyone that this is a possible symptom of date/time being wrong, so before hulking out, duck into the BIOS real quick and make sure the date/time are correct (and that your LAN is enabled!), then try again.

I probably haven't done a clean install of WinX since 1803 or so, but I remember the option to create a local account was still there, you just had to click your way through a bunch of scary-looking security warnings to get there. And then during the setup you had to confirm you really didn't want to sign in about a frillion more times.
Apple, as tied-together as they want you to be, also used to allow you to link your user and iCloud accounts/passwords, but since Spring of 2016 they walked it back and won't even let you try any more, ostensibly because allowing you to have the same password everywhere is a big fat security hole.

--Patrick
The bios time was fine. I was in there quite a bit trying to figure out a way to boot into safe mode.
 
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Jesus Christ. I was beginning to lose my mind. My PC since the reinstall had become a barely stable mess with everything crashing constantly. I was worried that something had been damaged in that ultra-crash.

So I finally pop into my bios aaaaaand apparently at some point without realizing I had turned on "SUPER GAME MODE TURBO BOOST ULTRA DELUXE CHAMPION EDITION" mode on my mobo, overclocking the fucking shit out of my processor. Woops.
 
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I need 5 drives for my NAS project.
I bought 6 (a baker's half-dozen?).
One was OOB failure, so I sent it back to be replaced.
NAS project underway.
One of my 5 drives started failing about 23hours in (8 bad sectors, 1500 pending/weak).
Replacement is still not back yet.
NAS project back on hold. Again.

--Patrick
 
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I need 5 drives for my NAS project.
I bought 6 (a baker's half-dozen?).
One was OOB failure, so I sent it back to be replaced.
NAS project underway.
One of my 5 drives started failing about 23hours in (8 bad sectors, 1500 pending/weak).
Replacement is still not back yet.
NAS project back on hold. Again.

--Patrick
...I'm pretty sure 6 is just a regular old half dozen. A baker's half dozen would be 6.5 ;)
 
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...I'm pretty sure 6 is just a regular old half dozen. A baker's half dozen would be 6.5 ;)
Half a hard drive is of no use to me, so INT(bakerdozen/2)=6.
I bought a 7th from Amazon. It should be here Tue, which is sooner than #6's replacement is supposed to arrive, so I guess I'll just have a spare.

--Patrick
 
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A baker's X just means one more than customary, the extra being "to eat on the way home."

So a baker's half-dozen would be 7.

A baker's gross would be 145.
 
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