*sighs, turns over "DAYS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING IN AMERICA" sign to 0*

I don't think there's any level of evidence convincing enough to allow any person or state agent to murder another under the pretense of justice. Throwing someone in a cage indefinitely is not much better, but at least it allows for amends, on occasion.
 
I would be for death penalty and indefinite lock up if a truly transparent, accountable, and responsible criminal system/government/society was in place to do it. Seeing how these sentences are grossly misused in the past, and continue to be abused, I'm unwilling to even entertain the notion of them being in used in present time.
 
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/law...age-was-dressed-up-as-a-wwii-era-nazi-police/

A Houston-era lawyer who was having financial troubles with his law firm reportedly dressed up like a Nazi before shooting 9 people, before being fatally shot by police. Since only 1 of the 9 people he shot is in critical condition, this would not, by FBI standards, be considered a mass shooting (which only counts incidents where 4 or more are killed). However, it is pretty fucking weird, so I thought it deserved a mention.
 

fade

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I was wondering what the details were. Saw the coverage this morning but they didn't know anything. Only weird detail was that the shooter's car was a Porsche, which seemed odd.
 
factoid actualy (sic) just statistical error. average Trump supporter is 0 nazi. Billybob Killjew, who lives in cave & does 10,000 nazi things each day, is an outlier adn should not have been counted
When you've got actual Holocaust survivors saying that Trump reminds them a lot of Hitler, and that he's using the exact same type of rhetoric, it's not a joke.
 
When you've got actual Holocaust survivors saying that Trump reminds them a lot of Hitler, and that he's using the exact same type of rhetoric, it's not a joke.
You'll have to excuse me if I don't take you remotely seriously when you make the leap from one of your candidates being a (barely crypto-)fascist to calling all of his supporters nazis.
 
You'll have to excuse me if I don't take you remotely seriously when you make the leap from one of your candidates being a (barely crypto-)fascist to calling all of his supporters nazis.
It's a leap to refer the supporters of a guy using Hitler's rhetoric, racial hatred, and wild blatant lies to build a fanatical base of political power as nazis?
 

Dave

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Guy killed his dad, then drove to the elementary school and shot kids. So pretty parallel to Sandy Hook.
 
Guy killed his dad, then drove to the elementary school and shot kids. So pretty parallel to Sandy Hook.
Yes, it is, I meant that the FBI mass shooting stats only track shootings with 4 or more killed, so since the kids didn't die, it doesn't count.
 
Currently ongoing at Ohio state. 9 people shot but thankfully only death so far was a shooter. Police think there could be more though.
 

Dave

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No shooting. It seems like he used his car to run into people and then pulled out a large knife. The only shots fired were from the police.
 
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