I'm also glad to see they found a way to bring in FOUR Spider-man villains in one movie, and make it WORK....granted 2 were second stringers, and one was there for foreshadowing-BUT STILL!
[Movies] MCU: Phase 3 And Beyond
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I really want to applaud the casting director for making the student actually LOOK like a current NYC high school in Homecoming. Not just the ages, but the diversity, especially among the specialized high schools, like Peter was attending. I've seen both my ex's and Mr. Z's yearbooks, and those were from the 90's. The last two Spider-chapters, filmed in the 2000's, were so ridiculously white, it was like, "Have you seen a NYC high school in the last 30+ years?". (Not to mention the casting of "teens" in the Raimi films.) Also, Ned's passing comment about the differences between the specialized high schools and the local schools was pretty funny, since I remember Mr. Z telling me similar stories.
I still feel like the Raimi films are probably the most literal adaption of the Spider-Man comics. And I forget who said this first, but even with their flaws, you can still see how they shaped the Disney/MCU aesthetic, more-so than X-Men. But I feel like this version of Spider-Man fits in so perfectly with the current Marvel Film universe. With the exception of RDJ, it's nice to see a lead superhero that isn't a 30-something male, but still young and wide-eyed enough to really enjoy being a hero. The movie could have used a little less Tony, but given when Spider-Man is being introduced in the timeline, it makes sense he'd bebutting-in involved, more that all the no-shows in the Netflix 'verse.
I still feel like the Raimi films are probably the most literal adaption of the Spider-Man comics. And I forget who said this first, but even with their flaws, you can still see how they shaped the Disney/MCU aesthetic, more-so than X-Men. But I feel like this version of Spider-Man fits in so perfectly with the current Marvel Film universe. With the exception of RDJ, it's nice to see a lead superhero that isn't a 30-something male, but still young and wide-eyed enough to really enjoy being a hero. The movie could have used a little less Tony, but given when Spider-Man is being introduced in the timeline, it makes sense he'd be
You say that but
just wait till Gas find's out that MJ isn't a redhead.
Welp, wife didn't get to bed until 4AM, so I know we're not going to the movies today.
GasBandit
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(Just kidding, the movie was great)
Also I disagree with Frank about the music. Not in general, because yeah, most marvel movies have completely forgettable generic scores. But the leitmotif for this movie stood out in my mind, and shouted to me...
"That guy is a spider. That guy is a spi-der! That guy is a SPI-der!"
One thing I just thought of, and liked, regarding Tony Stark's statement on deserving the suit.
Pretty much every member of the Avengers has had moments where they didn't have their equipment and/or powers, and still had the heroism and determination and ability to do the right thing. Stark infiltrated the Mandarin's mansion in IM3 without his suit, armed only with jury-rigged weapons built from stuff he got from a hardware store. Rogers was standing up to bullies and volunteering to join the army back when he was a tiny weakling, and in fact it was this quality that convinced Dr. Erskine to let him receive the super soldier serum. Thor stood up to the Destroyer when he was stripped of his powers and couldn't wield Mjolnir. Banner returned to Harlem to challenge the Abomination despite not knowing if he could turn back into the Hulk. Wanda, along with her brother, volunteered for Strucker's experiments as a pair of normal teenagers, just on the off-chance that they'd survive and be able to help defend their homeland. Falcon returned to the Triskelion to take on Rumlow despite losing his wings.
To add to your excellent point: Hawkeye ran out of arrows in the first Avengers and had to keep fighting.
GasBandit
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Sandman was pretty good too, even if the movie he was in was pretty crap. I think what really makes these two good is they don't have the "Conquer the world" megalomaniacal angle, they have relatable motivations and down to earth origin stories, and you can understand - if not agree - with how they got where they are.
You can tell he was the villain Raimi actually wanted. I remember reading the studio wanted, and kept pushing for, Venom, and Raimi was stuck. I really think Spider-Man 3 would have been less maligned if the studio had just let Raimi do this thing.
I think focusing on Sandman alone, and cutting out the terrible Symbiote crap, would have saved that movie.
Saw Spider-man:Homecoming in 3D today. Michael Keaton steals the show in this, becoming the only genuinely terrifying Marvel villain in the process. Part of that is simply great design for his suit, but part of it is the... car scene. Got chills.
3D was good enough I actually reflexively tried to dodge Spidey after an explosion. That's never happened before.
3D was good enough I actually reflexively tried to dodge Spidey after an explosion. That's never happened before.
Hell, even just setting p Venom for the next film instead of cramming him in at the end would have done wonders.
A teaser trailer was shown at the event, as well. No video is up yet, but someone wrote a description. I'll put it behind a spoiler tag.
Holy shit, even reading the description has me excited.
A wounded Thor. Thor landing on the Guardians’ space ship’s windscreen (as Rocket tells them to turn on the wipers). Mantis wakes Thor up, he asks who the hell they are, before taking a trip with the Guardians. A Hulkbuster suit. Peter Parker on a bus noticing something is up. Spider-Man in his end-of-Homecoming suit. Without the mask, apologizing. Winter Soldier and Black Panther with army of Wakanda. Doctor Strange creating magical platforms for Star-Lord to jump on. Yes, there’s Loki, with the Tesseract. The Vision and Wanda in love. Thanos with a not-yet-complete Infinity Gauntlet beating up the Avengers with ease, using the gauntlet to rain down fire on them, a very afraid Tony Stark, and Thanos squeezing Thor’s head. And, yes, Captain America with a beard… you can make your own jokes.
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I'll admit, Vulture was downright scary.
Seriously, imagine that thing swooping down at you. Shit pants city![DOUBLEPOST=1500404172,1500403954][/DOUBLEPOST]
Guuuuyyy in the chaaaaaiiiiirrrrrrr
Thanos has his stone throne, Ned has his wheeled office chair.
Sounds like a duel for the ages.
Ooo! Ooo! Go grab Professor X and I smell ultimate* crossover!!
(*Not Ultimates crossover, which would be something different.)
"How DARE you challenge me, boy! Who do you think you are? What do you think you could possibly do?"
"I'm... watching... porn..."
Actually I think that's the best thing Ned could've said to the faculty member who caught him, because it's the most plausible explanation for a dude sitting alone in the dark in front of a computer. Sure, he'd get in trouble, but it's almost certain that no one would investigate further into what he was doing, which means they wouldn't find Peter's secret.
GasBandit
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Exactly. It was the one sure thing he could say that the teacher would believe and not dig deeper.
True. And from what I've seen, kids caught watching porn at school get a stern lecture and a short suspension. Relatively speaking it's a slap on the wrist.
As if the first trailer didn't sell me enough already.
HULK SPEAKS! FINALLY! A LIVE ACTION HULK SPEAKS AN ACTUAL SENTENCE!
Hmm...
A good-looking poster? These days? How could that mistake have happened?
Captain Marvel had some interesting news:
Captain Marvel had some interesting news:
Huh. I was under the impression the Skrulls were still owned by Fox.