[Contest] Guess the date of Trump's Impeachment!

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He will not be removed from office. The impeachment process will produce jack shit, because Republicans in the Senate have already admitted as much. I'm actually more worried about making sure he's voted out in 2020, and worried that even if he is voted out he won't leave.
 
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Yup, Mitch is a joke (as are the other hypocrites he leads). Trump isn't wrong, he CAN shoot someone in the street and it just won't matter.
 

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He will not be removed from office. The impeachment process will produce jack shit, because Republicans in the Senate have already admitted as much. I'm actually more worried about making sure he's voted out in 2020, and worried that even if he is voted out he won't leave.
Worried that he won't leave after being voted out? I'm worried there won't even be an election if he isn't removed from office.
 
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Given the chance, the republicans might actually benefit from ejecting Trump from office. They would be seen as standing up to their own, for one, but, more importantly, they would get President Pence. It is a risky strategy for two reasons: One is that they may piss off their own constituents and lose a primary. The other is that they would need to really ratchet up a presidential campaign for Pence, which might not be a strong campaign. That said, Trump hasn't exactly been good for the republicans and there is a (not at all admirable or selfless) path for republicans to dump Trump.
 
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I can see them sneak in the 25th with Pence and play the card that mental disease has taken ahold of cheeto, and we should pity him while supporting Pence as he continues the great works started cheeto.

Seriously no one can read that letter and go, yep fit for office!
 
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Given the chance, the republicans might actually benefit from ejecting Trump from office. They would be seen as standing up to their own, for one, but, more importantly, they would get President Pence. It is a risky strategy for two reasons: One is that they may piss off their own constituents and lose a primary. The other is that they would need to really ratchet up a presidential campaign for Pence, which might not be a strong campaign. That said, Trump hasn't exactly been good for the republicans and there is a (not at all admirable or selfless) path for republicans to dump Trump.
Honestly though, I feel if they wanted to go that route they should've done it a bit sooner so prez Pence would have had some time to "prove" how good he is and how strong his conservative and Christian moral is. Even if Trump is impeached and removed from office before January, that doesn't leave a lot of room for Pence to achieve anything.

And it's all too late in many ways, anyway. Whatever positive will and influence the US had left anywhere i nthe world is really completely gone now. I can't see any rebel group or local insurgents or whatever trusting the US again for the next 20 or 30 years, easily. Pulling back the way Trump did was huge gift to Turkey, an even bigger gift to Russia, and an important gift to Iran. The only people really hurt are the Kurds - you know, your Best Allies In the Middle East, who were guarding your POWs, securing your air bases, and even pulled back their defenses when asked to so their enemy could march right in, and Israel, since Iran suddenly has an unopposed path to Lebanon.

If the Army was ever going to say an order was illegal or immoral, this should've been it. US troops literally left comrades they'd been fighting with shoulder-to-shoulder for years, to die. Movies will be made of this - and believe me, the "Orders are orders" military hierarchy will be the bad guys.
 
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Given the chance, the republicans might actually benefit from ejecting Trump from office. They would be seen as standing up to their own, for one, but, more importantly, they would get President Pence. It is a risky strategy for two reasons: One is that they may piss off their own constituents and lose a primary. The other is that they would need to really ratchet up a presidential campaign for Pence, which might not be a strong campaign. That said, Trump hasn't exactly been good for the republicans and there is a (not at all admirable or selfless) path for republicans to dump Trump.
This is sort of my take on it? The longer the GOP waits to impeach and remove from office, the harder it's going to be to get a candidate out there to run against the Dem nominee. Sure, they can just say "Mike Pence was VP, so go with him" but how much impact has Pence had on the average person? At least Biden was meme worthy, for however shitty his actual politics were.
 

GasBandit

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This is sort of my take on it? The longer the GOP waits to impeach and remove from office, the harder it's going to be to get a candidate out there to run against the Dem nominee. Sure, they can just say "Mike Pence was VP, so go with him" but how much impact has Pence had on the average person? At least Biden was meme worthy, for however shitty his actual politics were.
Well, IIRC (granted I was 9 years old), the primary/only thing GHWB had name recognition for when he ran was that he was Reagan's VP...
 
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But Reagan was generally popular and wasn't viewed as usurping Reagan. Taking out trump loses you the trump diehards but won't get you very many new voters.
 
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But Bush was generally popular and wasn't viewed as usurping Reagan. Taking out trump loses you the trump diehards but won't get you very many new voters.
Yeah, this. Trump has an entire cult of personality fueling what remains of his agenda, but who actually likes Mike Pence outside of REALLY diehard conservative Christians? Pence is not Bush Sr.
 
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Also, Pence is implicated in the Ukraine dealings, so he may be facing impeachment as well.
 
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