[News] 2012 Election Results Thread

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So you're saying that if Romney was for gay marriage, and Obama was against it, you wouldn't have swapped your vote?
Nope. Never said it was my 100% deciding factor. I said it was important.

It's a very strong and powerful issue for me and it would have affected my view nearly completely though, I will admit.

What would have happened if Obama would have been the Anti-Gay candidate, I would have voted third-party. Because Romney still had a multitude of issues I was against as I stated before.
 
Ah, I misunderstood your earlier statements. Sorry.
I know, I may have not articulated myself correctly, which happens often unfortunately.

Anti-Gay Equality is my hot button as for some it's Economy, others it's Military or perhaps something else. Everyone has their big issue that's a 99% deciding factor but I agree with you that there has to be MORE than that for someone to choose their candidate.
 
Now I'm left with the critical question:

Do I permit FB posts on my newsfeed for friends I had to block prior to the election due to their incessant political re-posts?
 
Now I'm left with the critical question:

Do I permit FB posts on my newsfeed for friends I had to block prior to the election due to their incessant political re-posts?
I'd wait a couple of days. I know I'm on block with a few people at the moment.
 
It seems there are many who simply didn't want to run against Obama this cycle.
That's what I've been saying since the Republican primaries. I mean, look at the list of shmucks Republicans had to choose from. These were the full-of-themselves, delusions of grandeur losers. Smart Republican potentials hung back in the wings. They're waiting for 2016 against a fresh Democrat opponent.
 
Snagged from Tumblr:

Obama mentions his wife in his victory speech: “…The woman who agreed to marry me 20 years ago”
Romney mentions his wife in his concession speech: “… The woman I chose to marry”
It’s amazing how someone’s views on equality can come out in one simple sentence​
 
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Obama mentions his wife in his victory speech: “…The woman who agreed to marry me 20 years ago”​
Romney mentions his wife in his concession speech: “… The woman I chose to marry”​
It’s amazing how someone’s views on equality can come out in one simple sentence​
Romney himself said in the captured video -We have to use Ann sparingly or the people will get tired of her- that's a vote of confidence and equal thinking if I ever heard one.
 
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Obama mentions his wife in his victory speech: “…The woman who agreed to marry me 20 years ago”
Romney mentions his wife in his concession speech: “… The woman I chose to marry”
It’s amazing how someone’s views on equality can come out in one simple sentence​
That's a pretty stupid conclusion to draw from those sentences, but that seems to be par for the course this election.
 
That's a pretty stupid conclusion to draw from those sentences, but that seems to be par for the course this election.
Sometimes it's reading too much into something.
Sometimes it's reading between the lines.

I wouldn't call it stupid, it's simply a perspective that can be read from the context in question.
 
Sometimes it's reading too much into something.
Sometimes it's reading between the lines.

I wouldn't call it stupid, it's simply a perspective that can be read from the context in question.
Are you defending another Charlie? You seriously think that this statement is worth consideration as a valid analysis of the two candidates phrasing?
 
This example will get trotted all over, but it's still what this discussion reminds me of: Survivor.

One season (an older one, haven't watched it in the last 5-ish years) there was a case of where an alliance had virtually all the power, and they literally told people "if you're not working very hard, we'll just vote you out next" and that's what actually happened. They had the majority of the votes (people), but the minority was doing most of the work around camp to keep them fed, watered, etc, because they wanted to stay in the game on the hope of the alliance crumbling and them coming through. Now unfortunately I don't remember what ultimately happened in that season, but the parallel is there: those with more numbers trump those actually doing the work to keep everybody afloat.

Do I think this is directly applicable to western democracies? No, but it bears keeping in mind. I don't think it's as drastic as that in numbers, but I do think it's a significant proportion of welfare-state supporters that are afraid of losing their benefits that they aren't working for. Not that they're not working, but that they're getting more from the government than they're putting in by a drastic amount.
 

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This example will get trotted all over, but it's still what this discussion reminds me of: Survivor.

One season (an older one, haven't watched it in the last 5-ish years) there was a case of where an alliance had virtually all the power, and they literally told people "if you're not working very hard, we'll just vote you out next" and that's what actually happened. They had the majority of the votes (people), but the minority was doing most of the work around camp to keep them fed, watered, etc, because they wanted to stay in the game on the hope of the alliance crumbling and them coming through. Now unfortunately I don't remember what ultimately happened in that season, but the parallel is there: those with more numbers trump those actually doing the work to keep everybody afloat.

Do I think this is directly applicable to western democracies? No, but it bears keeping in mind. I don't think it's as drastic as that in numbers, but I do think it's a significant proportion of welfare-state supporters that are afraid of losing their benefits that they aren't working for. Not that they're not working, but that they're getting more from the government than they're putting in by a drastic amount.
Mix that with equal parts "bread and circuses" and you've got yourself the United States Federal Government. An added layer of irony since reality TV is the "circuses" of our modern declining republic.
 
Thank you so much for that piece of comedy. :)

Krisken and Quotemander Prime - I've already met/heard people saying this exact thing in public. Along with seceding from the nation or moving to the woods.
Well yeah, I hear people say it, but it's not quite this unhinged and generally by people living very comfortably (ie would not give up their comfort to shit in the woods and live in a bunker).
 
Well yeah, I hear people say it, but it's not quite this unhinged and generally by people living very comfortably (ie would not give up their comfort to shit in the woods and live in a bunker).
If you were to hear them speak for a good half hour to hour on the subject, I'm very sure it'd reach levels of -that unhinged- and of course they're not going to secede or move to the woods/bunker, they have it made here, even with all the -destruction Obama is bringing to America-. As before the election and after it, they're full of shit and can't do anything about the situation so they just rant.
 
He's a libertarian republican.

So, a moron. - that's not fair, I shouldn't have said this. It's overly judgemental on my part. I'm not deleting it though.
 

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He's a libertarian republican.

So, a moron. - that's not fair, I shouldn't have said this. It's overly judgemental on my part. I'm not deleting it though.
A libertarian republican? The hell is that? If you are libertarian, it precludes you from being republican. That's literally akin being a pro-abortion catholic.
 
A libertarian republican? The hell is that? If you are libertarian, it precludes you from being republican. That's literally akin being a pro-abortion catholic.
Welcome to the co-opting. I'm surprised it's taken you this long to realize it has been happening since Obama took office back in '08.
 
A libertarian republican? The hell is that? If you are libertarian, it precludes you from being republican. That's literally akin being a pro-abortion catholic.
Considering how identical they sound on nearly all positions, it's easy to see how they're confused.
 

GasBandit

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You seem to do it when talking about Dems, I don't see why I can't do it to Libs?
Seriously though, you guys do sound alot alike. :p
It's a pretty stark difference, you're perfectly aware of it. Even aside from the whole talking the talk vs walking the walk argument.
 
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