[Movies] MCU: Phase 3 And Beyond

Where a character started off in no way matters to licensing these characters.

Otherwise Wolverine would be A-OK for Marvel movies.
 
Didn't he start off as an Avengers villain?

If they can use Wanda and Pietro in both X-Men and Avengers i really doubt they can't use Tasky...

http://www.superherohype.com/news/102138-exclusive-joe-carnahan-on-taskmaster-and-preacher

The rights APPEAR to be with Fox. So, he may appear in the Deadpool movie/franchise, but not at Marvel.[DOUBLEPOST=1431763043,1431763009][/DOUBLEPOST]
Where a character started off in no way matters to licensing these characters.

Otherwise Wolverine would be A-OK for Marvel movies.
Yeah, Wolvie started out in The Hulk.
 

figmentPez

Staff member
Yes I have the issue. :)
And you're right, I think the program was called "Weapon X," not Logan himself.
I thought that Logan was the tenth experiment of the Weapon program. And looking it up, it seems I was wrong. Though it was the tenth Weapon Plus program, Logan wasn't it's only experiment (which I should have known, because I knew that Deadpool was a Weapon X experiment, duh.)

In any case, The Hulk fought Wolverine long before any sort of Weapon program came into comic book canon.
 
In any case, The Hulk fought Wolverine long before any sort of Weapon program came into comic book canon.
Yes, because HULK IN CANADA BORING, ONLY SMASH TREES AND SNOW. HULK NEED OPPONENT. Hey, let's just invent some guy to throw at him and give him a Canadianesque name because comics. We'll retcon anything important later. Little did they know.

--Patrick
 
I thought that Logan was the tenth experiment of the Weapon program. And looking it up, it seems I was wrong. Though it was the tenth Weapon Plus program, Logan wasn't it's only experiment (which I should have known, because I knew that Deadpool was a Weapon X experiment, duh.)

In any case, The Hulk fought Wolverine long before any sort of Weapon program came into comic book canon.
The whole "tenth experiment" thing was introduced during Morrison's run on X-Men, I believe.
 
Where a character started off in no way matters to licensing these characters.

Otherwise Wolverine would be A-OK for Marvel movies.
Sure, but that's just a one off appearance, while Taskmaster has been all over the place, and i doubt that he's been that much of a part of Deadpool, like Wolvie has been part of the X-Men...
 
Sure, but that's just a one off appearance, while Taskmaster has been all over the place, and i doubt that he's been that much of a part of Deadpool, like Wolvie has been part of the X-Men...
Still has zero bearing on who legally has the rights to put Tasky on film. It would appear that Fox has that right, not Marvel Studios.
 
I'm pretty sure in Wolverine's original incarnation, he was a super evolved wolverine made by the high evolutionary, and his claws were attached to his gloves.

I could be wrong, but that sounds dumb enough to fit old comic origins.
 
I'm pretty sure in Wolverine's original incarnation, he was a super evolved wolverine made by the high evolutionary, and his claws were attached to his gloves.

I could be wrong, but that sounds dumb enough to fit old comic origins.
That was an origin that was kicked around the Marvel offices, but was luckily dismissed prior to Wolverine ever appearing.
 

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Staff member
It's a shame about the Taskmaster's show rights. He's probably got one of the coolest power sets, and one I've always wanted for myself. They ripped him off for Heroes, but never did much with that character.
 
Where did they rip him off in Heroes? Then again, i don't seem to remember half the powers they had... damn that show went downhill fast.
Teenage girl in New Orleans after Katrina. She only had a short arc before they wrote her off. I think this was during the Writer's strike seasons.
 
I've been wrong about this sort of thing before, but...

Are audiences going to be receptive to having magic introduced to their MCU movies?
Thor's basically magic already, considering Asgardian tech is so advanced MCU humans can't conceive how it works.
 
I've been wrong about this sort of thing before, but...

Are audiences going to be receptive to having magic introduced to their MCU movies?
I think so. I'm relatively sensitive to that sort of thing (magic can bother me when it doesn't fit the setting), but it doesn't bother me here at all, as long as it's presented correctly.
 
Asgardians, infinity stones, and Wanda were all explained away with scientific (or at least science-y sounding) explanations. That makes them more compatible with the tone of the MCU. For example, in Thor 2 Jane Foster was able to manipulate the Aether's teleportation using her science. Wanda was explicitly described as having neurological enhancements to give her telepathy and telekinesis.

If they don't give a similar science-y explanation to Doc Strange, it might feel really out of place.
 
Asgardians, infinity stones, and Wanda were all explained away with scientific (or at least science-y sounding) explanations. That makes them more compatible with the tone of the MCU. For example, in Thor 2 Jane Foster was able to manipulate the Aether's teleportation using her science. Wanda was explicitly described as having neurological enhancements to give her telepathy and telekinesis.

If they don't give a similar science-y explanation to Doc Strange, it might feel really out of place.
Strange is straight-up magic, though. Always has been, always will be. If they try to make it a science thing it basically destroys everything about the character that makes him so powerful. His enemies are magic-based, as are his powers and closest allies.

Wanda was never magic anyway, though, she's always been a Mutant and/or augmented.
 
Strange is straight-up magic, though. Always has been, always will be. If they try to make it a science thing it basically destroys everything about the character that makes him so powerful. His enemies are magic-based, as are his powers and closest allies.
It would be fucking awesome as hell if the REAL Mandarin showed up during the Dr. Strange movie... or Ant-Man/Civil War gets a stinger/foreshadowing where Tony is reading reports about someone taking on the Ten Rings through means no one can identify.

Mjolnir, however, continues to be unabashedly magic.
Maybe... or it could just have an onboard AI inside of it that allows it to read and judge the worth of anyone who tries to pick it up, using zero point energy manipulation to give it the ability to alter it's specific gravity... which would allow it to fly or be unmovable (without breaking anything it's resting on) as it desires. I couldn't even guess how it manipulates the weather to cause storms (unless it can affect atmospheric pressure) but the ability to call down lightning would be childs play compared to making and maintaining a tornado.

It's all certainly within the range of scientific possibility, if not likelihood.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
It would be fucking awesome as hell if the REAL Mandarin showed up during the Dr. Strange movie... or Ant-Man/Civil War gets a stinger/foreshadowing where Tony is reading reports about someone taking on the Ten Rings through means no one can identify.



Maybe... or it could just have an onboard AI inside of it that allows it to read and judge the worth of anyone who tries to pick it up, using zero point energy manipulation to give it the ability to alter it's specific gravity... which would allow it to fly or be unmovable (without breaking anything it's resting on) as it desires. I couldn't even guess how it manipulates the weather to cause storms (unless it can affect atmospheric pressure) but the ability to call down lightning would be childs play compared to making and maintaining a tornado.

It's all certainly within the range of scientific possibility, if not likelihood.
But they didn't write any of that for the MCU. Remember, SHIELD had time to cordon off and study the hammer before Thor found his way to it in New Mexico. They couldn't make heads or tails of it in any fashion. But all of the infinity stones earth has come into contact with has been at least partially manipulated or explained with science.
 
I don't believe they've explained with science, but tried to use science to define the stones. They're trying to explain something they don't understand in terms they do understand, doesn't mean that they're actually explaining it.

I think magic will be fine, not saying Majik would be though, with the path they are currently following.
 
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