See, THIS is why we can't have anything nice. (Nor can I have OTC Sudafed). 
People dropping off their unused prescriptions for safe disposal keeps you from having OTC pseudoephedrine?
Yeah, no, look. If your boss tells you"the enxt one to speak gets fired", and you speak up, and you get fired, you're going to say your boss was wrong?
A couple of kids are fighting in the playground. Teacher pulls them apart, tells both to stop it; they continue. Teacher pulls them apart again, tells them the next one to misbehave gets to write lines. Your reaction? Sticking out your tongue to the teacher. Well, then you can do the lines, too.
Guess what. Being told by a person in authority "stop it now or else", going on to troll, and then disagreeing when what you were warned about happens? That's just your own stupidity. I admit NR was in a bad mood and might not've gone as far had he been in a bad mood - but that doesn't mean it's suddenly OK. If he'd been playing around, he wouldn't've used the big red text. If you really couldn't get out of that conversation that he was pissed and you were about -> || <- this far from a ban...well, learn to read.
A couple of kids are fighting in the playground. Teacher pulls them apart, tells both to stop it; they continue. Teacher pulls them apart again, tells them the next one to misbehave gets to write lines. Your reaction? Sticking out your tongue to the teacher. Well, then you can do the lines, too.
Guess what. Being told by a person in authority "stop it now or else", going on to troll, and then disagreeing when what you were warned about happens? That's just your own stupidity. I admit NR was in a bad mood and might not've gone as far had he been in a bad mood - but that doesn't mean it's suddenly OK. If he'd been playing around, he wouldn't've used the big red text. If you really couldn't get out of that conversation that he was pissed and you were about -> || <- this far from a ban...well, learn to read.
North_Ranger
Staff member
If you wished to know why you were banned, you could have talked to me in PM. And I would have answered you.
But it would seem that you do not wish for rational conversation and moving on with having fun in the forums. You will rather try and stir up trouble. When everyone else has moved on, you come in with your personal tale of woe. Of course you will edit your piece to leave out the parts that do not suit you. The PMs actually defending you in the original topic. Your posts stirring up a fight when the matter was almost settled. The e-mails explaining in clear, rational terms why you were banned. They don't make a good story, so you leave them out. All so that everyone will feel sorry for you for getting banned by the big bad mods.
And you say I'm the clown?
I left out most of the PM because it was about Null, and it really had nothing to do with the context of why you banned me. Furthermore, nothing was edited. I just copy/pasted the PM onto here. Once again, you're the hero Halforums deserves.
<incoming> pictures of hammers and larger font, red text. I'm shakin' now!
Look, even if you're angry and annoyed and completely convinced you're in the right - either you honestly can't see this is STUPID, in which case, good luck next time a cop pulls you over for speeding; or you DO know it, and you're deliberately insulting a moderator, which is against the rules.
Oh, let's be honest here: you're deliberately insulting and heckling a moderator to goad him into banning you, so that you can keep going on about his "mad power trip" or whatever. You're breaking the rules. You're delivering personal isults. You're tackling the man instead of the ball. I'm approximately 99.6% (margin of error: 0.4%) sure you'll be banned again before the day is out.
What's the point? Size of you e-balls? Being vindicated and being able to yell "Ha! See? He banned me again! Power-hungry I tell you!"? Either you like it here and want to talk and have fun, and you should lay off the intentionally harassing people, or you don't like it here and should just leave. Liking it here but not wanting to be accountable for anything you do, and thinking you're above the rules because you're you? That just means you're self-aggrandizing, entitled, self-centered jerk and a bully.
An apology would be nice. Along the lines of "Sorry, bro, I was frustrated that day and I banned you for little reason. I was being a douchebag, my bad."
Yeah, why don't you focus on disciplining your son instead of latching onto me.
Really?
You're going there?
Ouch.
I mean, fuck man. Someone disagrees with you and you go for the fucking throat don't you?
A delicious, maple syrup covered throat.
And letting shit like this go is exactly how people get bullied. So, no. I won't stop until NR acknowledges that what he did was in the wrong.
*Backs out of thread slowly*
I'm so tempted to go a few rounds with you.
However, I like this forum. I like the people here. I don't want them to think less of me for being baited by you.
You're just an verbally impotent guy on the internet, after all.
Me? I fuckin' rock.
And the best way of getting someone to apologize is by antagonizing and verbally attacking them. Right-oh. Here I was thinking "talking about it like adults" or "being the bigger man" were better ways of dealing with such things. Heck, perhaps acknowledging, from your side, that you stepped over the line would help him in admitting he was a bit quick on the trigger.
A: troll
B: warns
A: trolls some more
B: bans
A: trolls
... Guess what happens?
vs
A: troll
B: warns
A: trolls some more
B: bans
A: is adult and non-confrontational
B: replies in kind
I'm not saying he was right or wrong in banning you for a week. I admit, if I was mod I'd probably have banned you for a day or so instead of a week - but I *would* have banned you. He warned you, you crossed the line - he has to ban you or his threats carry no more weight. Had he been in a super duper happy mood, maybe he'd have been more lenient - but that's not your call to make. It's not bullying if it's rules enforcement with ways of appeal...Such as PMing Dave and/or asking for a discussion over it on the mod board.
Dave
Staff member
Good morning! I'm now here and I have something to say.
To NR: You let Mathias get to you way too easily sometimes. I do not believe this was one of those times. We had the situation diffused sufficiently and Mathias came in guns ablazing and escalated it again with smart-ass comments and trolling. I thought it was initially a 24 hour ban moved to a week when Mathias posted as a guest but it turns out that it started as a week and NR did not make it a month when the ban was circumvented - not exactly the action of someone who was flying off the handle with a power trip.
To Mathias: How can someone so smart be so fucking stupid? You can claim ignorance all you want, but you knew exactly what you were doing and what was going to happen. Does NR take his position seriously? You damned right. I'd expect nothing less. I've always said this is not my board but all of ours. The only problem with that is it gives some people the idea that they can act in any damn fool way they want to and can hide behind the monikers of "joking" or "I had a bad day". If this were an isolated incident I'd be more willing to let it slide but it's been something that is systemic with you and the fact that you then ask for an apology from someone for doing their job is laughable.
To everyone: Mathias posted the PM that we had been having. Great. Wonder why he didn't post the very next post in the PM?
So state your case. Make us understand why we should keep you around. Everyone can now weigh in.
To NR: You let Mathias get to you way too easily sometimes. I do not believe this was one of those times. We had the situation diffused sufficiently and Mathias came in guns ablazing and escalated it again with smart-ass comments and trolling. I thought it was initially a 24 hour ban moved to a week when Mathias posted as a guest but it turns out that it started as a week and NR did not make it a month when the ban was circumvented - not exactly the action of someone who was flying off the handle with a power trip.
To Mathias: How can someone so smart be so fucking stupid? You can claim ignorance all you want, but you knew exactly what you were doing and what was going to happen. Does NR take his position seriously? You damned right. I'd expect nothing less. I've always said this is not my board but all of ours. The only problem with that is it gives some people the idea that they can act in any damn fool way they want to and can hide behind the monikers of "joking" or "I had a bad day". If this were an isolated incident I'd be more willing to let it slide but it's been something that is systemic with you and the fact that you then ask for an apology from someone for doing their job is laughable.
To everyone: Mathias posted the PM that we had been having. Great. Wonder why he didn't post the very next post in the PM?
So here it is. Here is my thought. Mathias, you are not banned. I'm giving you the chance to make it right. You have 2 choices:
- Apologize to NR and the community - especially those like LittleSin. You have this way of taking the slightest thing and going from 0 to asshole in 0.3 seconds. There's no middle ground with you.
- Permaban
You can just read how much I do respect you as a person. As a poster? Not so much.
So state your case. Make us understand why we should keep you around. Everyone can now weigh in.
S
SeraRelm
(I'm standing by this from earlier.)
S
SeraRelm
It was more directed to all the shit before your post, you sneaked in ahead of me while I was reading it all.
From the Wikipedia article on Tit for Tat:
But don't take my word for it. Some other very smart people have some words for you, too.
http://www.radiolab.org/blogs/radiolab-blogland/2010/dec/14/prisoners-dilemma/
TL;DR: In Life, learn to forgive, or else be eliminated.
--Patrick
Mathias, you seem to be stuck on step 2. Perhaps it is time to move on to step 3.
But don't take my word for it. Some other very smart people have some words for you, too.
http://www.radiolab.org/blogs/radiolab-blogland/2010/dec/14/prisoners-dilemma/
TL;DR: In Life, learn to forgive, or else be eliminated.
--Patrick
M
makare
I can't wait for my step-dad's sister to leave. She is a really annoying house guest. On the upside next week my cousin Taylor is visiting. Now she is someone I like having stay over.
I've only ever had one annoying house guest. It was a friend of mine that had moved away some ten years before hand but we kept (and still do) keep in close, nearly daily, contact. So I invited him to my wedding.
Holy shit. The stuff this guy was doing...it just disgusted me. Microwaving stuff with out using a plate and not cleaning up after himself, shaving and leaving his hairs all over the place, etc. He wouldn't eat any of my home cooking....but he would drink 3 2liters of pop a day...pop we would buy and ask us in a passive agreesive way to take him to get 'good food'.
I was glad when he left. I think we're better long distance friends.
fade
Staff member
When I did an internship in grad school, I rented a room in a townhouse from some lady who did it for the interns every year. She was the opposite. She obsessed over things. She said I left a mess in the microwave once, which she saved to show me. I really needed to look hard to see the one or two specks of tomato sauce in the microwave. That was typical.
Ah, I see you've met my mother.
M
makare
Probably became that way over time. This chick who is staying with us leaves little messes everywhere she goes and no problem with eating our food. She eats a lot. Which is ok just surprising. Like the other night we had a big steak dinner and then cake and ice cream for dessert (it was my mom's birthday) at 6. By the time she went to bed at 9:30 she had seconds and thirds of cake and ice cream. It made my stomach hurt to think about it. That isn't really a complaint about her I mean I don't care what she eats I am just amazed by it.