[Movies] Pacific Rim

Just got back. Del Toro and his team have crafted a great world, with equally good characters and action, to fill it within a really good story. Well worth seeing and go support something that is both original and good this summer.

Personal favorite touch: deep bass drums in the score that remind me of Godzilla.
 
I HATE YOU ALL

If it makes you feel any better, the soonest I'll be able to see it myself is Sunday. Because work sucks.[DOUBLEPOST=1373599569][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, anyone who sees this: please tell me whether the 3D is worth it or not. I fucking hate 3D with a passion and wish it would go away. The ONLY viewing time available on Sunday that's NOT 3D is 12:50 PM, while the 3D version has three showings.
 
If it makes you feel any better, the soonest I'll be able to see it myself is Sunday. Because work sucks.[DOUBLEPOST=1373599569][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, anyone who sees this: please tell me whether the 3D is worth it or not. I fucking hate 3D with a passion and wish it would go away. The ONLY viewing time available on Sunday that's NOT 3D is 12:50 PM, while the 3D version has three showings.
I won't get to see it until Saturday, but I will tell you this--there are night fights in this movie. The mechanism for the 3D effect muddies colors and darkens the screen. Some of the night scenes for Pirates of the Caribbean 4 were practically indiscernible in 3D. So if you choose 3D for this, you're risking seeing less at times when the film is darker.

Wife and I are hitting a 2D matinee. I wouldn't have minded seeing this in iMax, but they only have 3D iMax--not happening.
 
If it makes you feel any better, the soonest I'll be able to see it myself is Sunday. Because work sucks.[DOUBLEPOST=1373599569][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, anyone who sees this: please tell me whether the 3D is worth it or not. I fucking hate 3D with a passion and wish it would go away. The ONLY viewing time available on Sunday that's NOT 3D is 12:50 PM, while the 3D version has three showings.
I can say that the 3D was good. Even though the fights do tend to be night, they still look good and the 3D effect is not hindered.
 
I can say that the 3D was good. Even though the fights do tend to be night, they still look good and the 3D effect is not hindered.
The 3D's effect being hindered isn't the issue; it's general visibility that tends to get dimmer when you do 3D + night.

But I haven't seen this movie yet. I can only go on the past.
 
I can say that the 3D was good. Even though the fights do tend to be night, they still look good and the 3D effect is not hindered.

Is it important to the movie, though? For example, if you watched this without the 3D, would it lessen the entertainment or narrative value of the movie?
 
Is it important to the movie, though? For example, if you watched this without the 3D, would it lessen the entertainment or narrative value of the movie?

It's a movie about giant robots fighting sea monsters. I don't think 3D is going to enhance or hinder its artistic narrative.

That said, I don't think 3D ever has, for any movie, so... yeah.
 
One of the reviewers I follow said this:

Let me get this bit over with: to my mind, every technological advance necessary to create a walking mech will be obviated by better uses of that advance. As my friend Dave put it so brilliantly several years ago, (and I paraphrase) "If your tech is so superior that you can get away with giant killer robots, the only reason to use them is for sheer intimidation. This means that what you should be building is giant killer robot clowns."

The point is, when I see giant robots I write them off as "magic" and then watch them fight. It looks cool when they do that. In that frame of mind, and attending a late show with my 18-year-old daughter and 15-year-old son, the film was awesome. I had a blast.

I can imagine a frame of mind in which I'd enjoy the film much less.

Look, if you don't love kaiju (the giant monster genre), this just isn't going to be your movie. If you do love kaiju, nothing I say will keep you out of the theater. Am I right? Of course I'm right. Why are you still here? Go buy tickets already.

The story? VERY PREDICTABLE, especially if you're familiar with the genre. Lots of the kaiju tropes were there, and that's fine. It's familiar. There were some "why don't they just lead with THAT next time" moments, and that's its own trope. Many of you would be disappointed if it were absent.

The visuals? Beautiful. We saw the film in 3D and that added a lot. If you can stomach 3D, this is a good film to spend the extra money on.

Pacific Rim comes in at #5 for me this year. Respectable! It cleared the Threshold of Awesome!
Looks like 3D is well used.
 
The 3D's effect being hindered isn't the issue; it's general visibility that tends to get dimmer when you do 3D + night.

But I haven't seen this movie yet. I can only go on the past.
Not if the filmmakers plan for it. A lot of that bad 3D was when everyone just started post converting movies as a cash grab. The filmmakers didn't plan for the movie to be in 3D so it wasn't shot for it. Thats not as big an issue anymore.

Also, a lot of theaters have crappy bulbs in their projectors to save money or because they are lazy, if you have one of those at your showing it's all going to look dimmer.
 
The one nice thing about imax is that they control enough of the projector itself that you don't have to worry too much about dim bulbs or poor sound systems. They are audited.

Too bad they still use the older polarized glasses that bleed when you tilt your head...
 
The one nice thing about imax is that they control enough of the projector itself that you don't have to worry too much about dim bulbs or poor sound systems. They are audited.

Too bad they still use the older polarized glasses that bleed when you tilt your head...
Not saying its like this at all theatres but at mine, and the company I work for, we don't own our projectors and if a bulb were to shatter after going over it's lamp life, which is tracked by the projectors themselves and alert us as to when they need to be changed. If a bulb bursts past it's life while in the projector, we, at theatre level, pay for all repairs and if damaged enough, a whole new projector and they are not cheap. So there is definitely some incentive beyond just wanting to provide the best show possible to maintaning the bulbs.

Generally bulbs are changed out about 200 lamp hours before warrently recomends and could feasible run without much issue for another 500. They don't start dimming until then but are checked weekly to assess bulb life as there are, but rarely, faulty bulbs. Those you would usually find within a few hours of striking though.

Another issue that may cause poor brightness is a cracked or damaged reflector dish, which can occur if the exhaust fan isn't turned on at the start of the day and will take upwards of a week to get fixed here.
 
A discount site lists a sony SRXT420 4k projector bulb at over $3k. $5k wouldn't surprise me for a theater grade bulb.
 
Just saw the movie. I thought it was great.

Strengths:
  • The action scenes are spectacular. They are clear, dynamic, and interesting. Other directors should take note: this is how you film fight scenes.
  • The visuals are stunning. The use of color is especially great.
  • The homage factor: it's obvious this was made by someone who loves the kaiju and mecha genres. If you are like me and are a big fan of those genres as well, you will be satisfied.
  • The actors are all solid. No Oscar nominees here, but no one's acting is poor. Everyone does a servicible job.
  • There are a few witty moments sprinkled in. You might even laugh a few times.
Flaws:
  • The dialogue is, as you probably already heard, very cheesy. I ignored this because, quite frankly, I wasn't there to enjoy dialogue. YMMV.
  • The ending has a few "WTF" moments, even for a film about giant robots punching giant monsters.
  • The intro was too short in my opinion. I wanted to see more of the first appearance of the kaiju.
So that's basically it. A great, entertaining film with a few flaws. It's pretty much everything you would expect.

Also, I saw it in 3D. I did feel like the 3D was used well, and at no point in time did it look dark or muddy. It added depth to the film, and there were no cheesy "Look out a thing is flying at your face!" moments. The visuals looked nice through and through. Having said all that, I don't think it's necessary. I think it would still be enjoyable in standard.

One last thing: To all the neckbeards out there. If your B.O. and/or bad breath are so disgusting that I can smell you while you're two rows behind me, then something needs to change.
 
I'll be going to see this either tomorrow or Sunday. Really looking forward to it. I very nearly went last night despite my best friend wanting to go this weekend.
 
trying not to read this thread. sitting here at the movie tavern in fort worth tx having a drink before i go watch this movie. didn't want to see it in 3d but that is the only showing that was playing left tonight here at this movie theater and i can't bring myself to go anywhere else anymore. gotta love a theater with actual comfortable seats, serves food and has a full bar.
 
trying not to read this thread. sitting here at the movie tavern in fort worth tx having a drink before i go watch this movie. didn't want to see it in 3d but that is the only showing that was playing left tonight here at this movie theater and i can't bring myself to go anywhere else anymore. gotta love a theater with actual comfortable seats, serves food and has a full bar.

Spoiler: Giant mechs fight giant monsters.
 
You mean the US military doesn't BRING THE RAIN and win the day? Fuck this, where's Transformers 4?
Well, the US jaeger is the main focus of the movie, so... kinda. But not really.

I did notice that there are no jaegers from Central or South America in the main storyline. All they get is a brief mention*. Apparently Latin America can go screw itself.

From what I can tell, many of the shots of destroyed jaegers were from South America along with a few from North America. And Canada gets shit on constantly. The kaiju seem to have a taste for poutine.
 
Got back a little while ago. Most of it is exactly what you expect--no more, no less.

That said, Del Toro managed to squeeze in some of his personal visual touches that we've seen in many of of his other movies, and some of the non-giant mech vs giant monster scenes seem to be more what Del Toro would have done if this was one of his own projects. They're fun scenes--all sides of the movie compliment the others. There aren't any boring parts, not even the talking bits, so there's one Godzilla movie trope it didn't follow.

The fights were fantastic. Hell, just them suiting up the first time was awesome, before one Jaeger confronts a monster. Great music, I'm still rocking to it an hour and a half after the movie ended. It's a really easy movie to get into and get behind everyone in it. There's also some interesting stuff with the neural interface--I was afraid the movie was going to skimp on this, but it was paid attention and made interesting.

Ending stuff

The wormhole and the alien world were something else. I love how the one alien kind of looks at Gipsy Danger in semi-awe, before realizing what's going to happen, as if it was marveling at the work of another lifeform.

And on a side-note, what idiot in this world thought it would matter if they put up a fucking wall? They'd seen how the kaiju wrecked buildings--the wall was just as ineffective. So stupid.
 
...and some of the non-giant mech vs giant monster scenes seem to be more what Del Toro would have done if this was one of his own projects.
I don't understand... he directed, produced, and co-wrote the screenplay for the movie. How was this not one of his own projects?
Ending stuff

And on a side-note, what idiot in this world thought it would matter if they put up a fucking wall? They'd seen how the kaiju wrecked buildings--the wall was just as ineffective. So stupid.
I thought that was odd as well. I mean, if it was a wall covered in giant cannons firing on the kaiju while it tried to break through, I could maybe see the logic. Even then it would be questionable. But just building a giant wall? It was obviously huge since it lasted an hour of the kaiju just hammering away (that's what it said on the news report in the film), but there's no way a giant wall was ever going to work.
 
I don't understand... he directed, produced, and co-wrote the screenplay for the movie. How was this not one of his own projects?


I thought that was odd as well. I mean, if it was a wall covered in giant cannons firing on the kaiju while it tried to break through, I could maybe see the logic. Even then it would be questionable. But just building a giant wall? It was obviously huge since it lasted an hour of the kaiju just hammering away (that's what it said on the news report in the film), but there's no way a giant wall was ever going to work.
I had figured it was a little bit of social commentary about a different wall. It also gave the Jaeger program and awesome feeling of being the complete underdogs.

I loved the movie. Not a smart movie by any means but the action was perfectly done and I was able to keep track of who was fighting and how the fight was going. Though the last fight I couldn't readily tell which was the even bigger Kaiju.

I would watch movies about:
1. The other Jaeger teams
2. The first kaiju attack
3. the building of the first jaegers
4. the engineering marvel that was the elbow rocket

Pretty much if they continue going back to this well I will support them fully.
 
As much as I loved it, and I did, I would be really happy if it did not get milked. I would buy scale models of the Jaegers in a heartbeat though.
 
Just got back from it, myself. Not only was it flipping awesome the whole way through, I made me totally feel like a giddy 5-year old. In fact, I loved it so much that I immediately went to Toys R Us (which was almost directly opposite the theatre in the mall) to see if they had Pacific Rim toys.

They don't. :( I don't even know if someone is making them. Because cripes, I want one! Make them big and then have human figures inside.
 
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