[TV] Winter HAS COME! - A Game of Thrones

Past 800 pages in Storm of Swords (probably closer to 900). I ate through around 300 pages of this tonight instead of doing the stuff I was supposed to. But I could not stop.

There were things I wanted to happen that didn't, and now they never will...
 
Seriously though is there anyone half as cool as Littlefinger? He and Tyrion are great and I can't wait to see them interact this season.
 
I was at page 590 after a couple weeks last night, and now the book is finished. My discipline stumbled, and rather than try to help it, I cut its head off. I have a new one now, and it's about not reading Feast for a while, because I have other things to do in my life.

I can't even remember what I thought was going to happen after Clash, but it's certainly not what happened in Storm. There's holy shit, and then there's HOLY SHIT. Damn, Storm was so good that I was actually looking forward to Sansa chapters.

Book 3 mega-spoilers
I had tears in my eyes when...

I thought Hound killed Arya. The whole part leading up to her reaching the Twins, I thought "Come on, just let something good happen, please."

Sansa's chapter with building the little Winterfell really underlined where the pain came from. I was hoping that at some point they'd have Winterfell back, and sure, Eddard is gone, but that the kids, who've been spread to the winds, would reunite and there'd be a family again. That's not possible now, in any regard, even with the awesome moment in the Epilogue.

Speaking of which, every Frey needs that to happen to him. That shit with Robb and Grey Wind just burned...

I was certain Tyrion was dead meat in this book, but then... I don't know. Everything got so fucked up in all sorts of ways. I had to think that Tywin would've made a good king despite his assholery, but now everything's going to be thrown into disorder again.

Trying to figure out Littlefinger's reason for having Lysa send the letter to Catelyn about Jon, but it's so hard to untangle Littlefinger. But I fucking knew it was her, from book 1, I was certain.

Anyway, that was incredible, but no more for a while.
 
Contrary to belief, Lannister don't shit gold.

2 and 3 are my favorites, the last 300 pages of so in each book was awesome.

Book 4 and 5 are bloated and feel like filler compared to them.

I don't know WTF Martin is doing but if he's waiting another 4 years to release his next book, there's going to be a problem.
 
Contrary to belief, Lannister don't shit gold.

2 and 3 are my favorites, the last 300 pages of so in each book was awesome.

Book 4 and 5 are bloated and feel like filler compared to them.

I don't know WTF Martin is doing but if he's waiting another 4 years to release his next book, there's going to be a problem.
Look Jay, it was VITALLY IMPORTANT that Martin spend 5 million chapters telling us that Daenerys was sad, OK?! GD.
 
Look Jay, it was VITALLY IMPORTANT that Martin spend 5 million chapters telling us that Daenerys was sad, OK?! GD.
Book 5 was by far the worst of them all, at least halfway into that book she starts making decisions, so it wasn't a complete waste of time. I don't mind her character, I mind that it took 5 years to write it. Also, the storyline is forgettable when I still remember vividly Book 2-3.

Honestly? If he wrote the book in 2 years instead of 5 years I'd be more understanding. If book 6 had a release date, I'd be understanding. It's been officially 1 year since the release of Book 5 and almost no news have been forthcoming.

And knowing Martin's record of finishing series....
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I hit the end of book 3 with the knowledge that he'd intended for the characters to be in a certain general position for a 5-year jump.

Of course, I can understand why he abandoned that and instead chose to write Feast and Dragon. Apparently the prologue to cover the gap was approaching 250 pages. That's insane.

Book 3 stuff:

While Bran chapters were the ones I was dreading due to boredom in book 3 (instead of Sansa's), I was a little put off that his last one was so far from the end of the book. Also even though Jaime is out for redemption it seems, I'm still pissed at him for causing the murder of Jory Cassel, so his redemption can fuck off.
 
They added Ros as a character because they liked the actress, but all her scenes feel so unnecessary. Like last week. I get that they were showing
Robert's bastards being murdered
, but I do get pretty annoyed at the sex scenes that are only added to fill some imaginary T&A quota. Pretty sure we did not need another "practicing" scene.
 

Dave

Staff member
I *HATED* tonight's episode. Unnecessary T&A for no reason, characters acting out of character (Stannis), the way Theon's sister acted. Just...ugh. Yes, in the books they had whore houses. But they NEVER had a scene that I can remember with Littlefinger in the whorehouse. They are portraying him as ruthless as he is in the books, but in the books he's not this fucking obvious.

I sure hope it gets better than this.
 
I disagree. I thought the show was EXCELLENT as usual.

I just find the Ros character annoying. For every 5 minute segment she gets every week they could easily give it to someone else. Perhaps a scene with Catelyn or Robb, perhaps another Tyrion scene. Or maybe a Bran or Sansa scene? I just think she's pointless. Yes, they tied it in but she gets on my nerves because she never existed in the books.

As far as liberties taken, I'll see how they pan out at the end of the season.

Asha however really wasn't exactly as I pictured her... maybe it was the fugly face but whatever. We'll see. I felt that whole scene at the docks was rushed and started off wrong. Shame. Also, Yara? WTF.... Why cause Osha sounds too much as Asha? What will they do once all the Gruznaqaqnqnaqaqaqas that will come in?

The only thing that does bother me is that large amount of bad titty I've been seeing. Sure I expected the boat whore to be some random fugly POA but comon, somehow somewhere there has to be an actress with natural nice breasts? As far unnecessary T&A, they were mostly all in the book, even with a pretty safe assumption that Melisandre had sex with Stannis but it was never revealed openly... such as Renly's gayness with the Knight of Flowers.

I close my eyes and think of Pillars of the Earth and go.... Hello Hayley Atwell
 
Really don't see at all why we needed to see Ros crying over another woman's baby. If they wanted to add that scene at least use the baby's mother.
Def getting sick of always seeing Littlefinger in whorehouses.
Everything else seemed ok. I assume Bronn is being used in place of Bywater to reduce character count.
 
Asha however really wasn't exactly as I pictured her... maybe it was the fugly face but whatever. We'll see. I felt that whole scene at the docks was rushed and started off wrong. Shame. Also, Yara? WTF.... Why cause Osha sounds too much as Asha? What will they do once all the Gruznaqaqnqnaqaqaqas that will come in?
That's exactly why they changed her name, and it makes no sense at all when you've got Robb, Robert, and Robert, who all play larger roles in the story than Osha has so far. ESPECIALLY in television, where viewers are more likely to know the characters visually than by their name, and the two actors look nothing alike and are never even close to the same place at the same time.
 
Really don't see at all why we needed to see Ros crying over another woman's baby. If they wanted to add that scene at least use the baby's mother. Def getting sick of always seeing Littlefinger in whorehouses. Everything else seemed ok. I assume Bronn is being used in place of Bywater to reduce character count.
Exactly. It does feel forced on, most likely they really like the actress. If they did, they should have given her the part of someone else.
 
That's exactly why they changed her name, and it makes no sense at all when you've got Robb, Robert, and Robert, who all play larger roles in the story than Osha has so far. ESPECIALLY in television, where viewers are more likely to know the characters visually than by their name, and the two actors look nothing alike and are never even close to the same place at the same time.
Robb is always Robb, King Robert dies in the first season anyways, and I think they renamed Robert Arryn to Robin, since Lysa already calls him that in the books all the time anyways.
 
They still refer to King Robert often enough, and no, they definitely stuck with Robert Arryn being named Robert Arryn.
Point still stands. The names Osha and Asha are different enough, especially when partnered with two different faces in two different landscapes interacting with completely different sets of characters, that people shouldn't be getting them confused.
 
It's a piss poor decision to say the least. Apparently this was "known" 8 months ago. I don't give a shit because I don't follow production details a year before they happen on T.V.

I'll be honest, Asha was one of my favorite characters in the book, the name change and the fugly actress kinda disappointed me. I didn't expect her to be hot but geeez.... I was like...

Asha?

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GAAAAH

....when her face came on the screen.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Seems to me they went out of their way to make the actress look as homely as they could. In other roles/photos, she's not fugly. No supermodel, but definitely no Yara.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
And they did the same to Osha. At first she was this dirty little hairball... and over the next couple of episodes, they steadily cleaned her up and she transformed into Tonks.
 

BananaHands

Staff member
I can't wait for the "Ygritte is too pretty!!!!" posts.

And who knows... they might change her name to Yogurt to make it less confusing.
 
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