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Nile

Nile

Here's the list of songs removed from Vice City:

· Michael Jackson -"Billie Jean"
· Michael Jackson -"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin"
· Ozzy Osbourne -"Bark At The Moon"
· Kate Bush -"Wow"
· Herbie Hancock - "Rock It"
· Afrika Bambaataa -"Looking For The Perfect Beat"
· Lionel Richie - "Running with the night"
· A couple of songs from Radio Espantoso

Yeah, definitely lost a lot of good ones. That being said, there should be a folder in the Vice City directory called "mp3s". Just drop whatever songs you want in there, switch to the custom playlist station, and have a good time
 
Krisken

Krisken

That's not the worst change, though. My favorites were 99 Luftballoons and a few others not listed. Good to know my favorites weren't touched!
 
Bubble181

Bubble181

What surprises me, sort of, is how people keep assuming you'll be able to somehow trade in games. For the PC, you've been incapable of seeling used games for, what, 10 years now? I can literally buy a game, not leave the store, turn around and aska refund, and they'll refuse it since it's a pc game. Why would XB be any different? It's your loss, not the retailers'.
 
ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

You know, it's funny. Ten years ago, I hated that I couldn't sell my copy of Half-Life 2. And yet, now, I can't even imagine buying a physical copy of a PC games. And I like it that way. I like my Steam list of games. Admittedly, Steam sales have made the idea of digital copies much easier to deal with. I used to own a physical copy of Ghost Master, but after only paying $2.50 (maybe less; I can't remember) for it? If Steam ever went down and I lost that game, I wouldn't cry a river because it was so cheap. In fact, I don't think there's a single game I haven't gotten on sale. Part of that is, honestly, I think digital games are overpriced, anyway. Though they're nowhere near as bad as Live or PSN, where they expect you to pay the same price for the digital game as the hard copy. That's just insulting.

And, you know, if you don't agree with Steam, there's always GoG.
 
Bubble181

Bubble181

Is that an *actual* MS account? I mean, holy crap if it is. That's just nuts. Even Apple had the decency to be apologetic when you couldn't use the iPhone everywhere upon release.
 
Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Why would you believe that's not real? They've already been caught on camera saying that if you don't have online, you can use a Xbox360 instead.
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

Is it just me, or does it feel like they are doing this intentionally so that they can sell both the XBone and the new Slim 360 to the same people? They are doing everything they can to hamper the ability to use the XBone outside of certain rigid circumstances and then when people call them on it they just say to buy a whole other console.

So much for "The only console you will need".
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

I want to know if your XB1 can still be used for all its other amazing features once you can't use it to play games.

--Patrick
 
Bubble181

Bubble181

PatrThom said:
I want to know if your XB1 can still be used for all its other amazing features once you can't use it to play games.

--Patrick
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I'm guessing no - as it's all tied to your account. O course, if you intend to use the XB1 to surf tv channels, and you suddenly can't because your internet's cut off, that's going to sound mighty ridiculous. But I can totally see it.
 
Espy

Espy

Gilgamesh said:
Why would you believe that's not real? They've already been caught on camera saying that if you don't have online, you can use a Xbox360 instead.
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I dunno, it's just... such an astoundingly stupid thing to do. I mean you are right, but I just... ugh.
 
Cog

Cog

I tried this is another forums and it didn't end well.

Arguably physical media is going to disappear eventually, so how this console of the future should be? How resales, loans, rentals should work? The truth is, I can't think of anything that won't cause the reactions we have seen.
 
AshburnerX

AshburnerX

Cog said:
I tried this is another forums and it didn't end well.

Arguably physical media is going to disappear eventually, so how this console of the future should be? How resales, loans, rentals should work? The truth is, I can't think of anything that won't cause the reactions we have seen.
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Eventually can be a long time. Right now the US doesn't have the infrastructure to support an always online, digital game only console and this is mostly the fault of the government for not financing the spread of fiber and the local fiber monopolies (Comcast, Time Warner, etc) who have no interest in spreading the lines to rural areas, upgrading the lines for speed, or really doing anything that will cost them money at all (like providing their service at a fair price). Now this is slowly changing with Google's internet service (which is slowly making it's way east) but we don't have it yet.

There is also always going to be the issue of military service members (and others who move around a lot, often to areas with net access) being unable to use their systems because of this kind of DRM. Honestly, I think the best choice would be for the console makers to just make special, DRM free versions of the consoles as a good PR move. Yes, a few of the systems might walk off once people realize what the deal is, but the potential piracy problems are so infinitesimally small compared to the very real PR problems of the system that this shouldn't matter.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

AshburnerX said:
Eventually can be a long time. Right now the US doesn't have the infrastructure to support an always online, digital game only console and this is mostly the fault of the government for not financing the spread of fiber and the local fiber monopolies (Comcast, Time Warner, etc) who have no interest in spreading the lines to rural areas, upgrading the lines for speed, or really doing anything that will cost them money at all (like providing their service at a fair price). Now this is slowly changing with Google's internet service (which is slowly making it's way east) but we don't have it yet.

There is also always going to be the issue of military service members (and others who move around a lot, often to areas with net access) being unable to use their systems because of this kind of DRM. Honestly, I think the best choice would be for the console makers to just make special, DRM free versions of the consoles as a good PR move. Yes, a few of the systems might walk off once people realize what the deal is, but the potential piracy problems are so infinitesimally small compared to the very real PR problems of the system that this shouldn't matter.
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But they don't need to make special Xbox Ones, remember?

Just get a 360!
 
Cog

Cog

AshburnerX said:
Eventually can be a long time. Right now the US doesn't have the infrastructure to support an always online, digital game only console and this is mostly the fault of the government for not financing the spread of fiber and the local fiber monopolies (Comcast, Time Warner, etc) who have no interest in spreading the lines to rural areas, upgrading the lines for speed, or really doing anything that will cost them money at all (like providing their service at a fair price). Now this is slowly changing with Google's internet service (which is slowly making it's way east) but we don't have it yet..
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Maybe not yet, but lots of people bought sim city and diablo 3 and they obviously don't care about always on drm. My question is more to discuss how different than the xbone this hypothetical console should be .
 
Gilgamesh

Gilgamesh

Cog said:
Maybe not yet, but lots of people bought sim city and diablo 3 and they obviously don't care about always on drm. My question is more to discuss how different than the xbone this hypothetical console should be .
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Actually alot of people DIDN'T buy Sim City and Diablo 3 BECAUSE of DRM. Did they do well? Decently sure. Could they have done MUCH better? Yep.
Will Xbone do well? Decently sure. Will the PS4 do MUCH better? Yep.

In this case, the Xbone has direct competition that's doing the SMARTER thing that they SHOULD be doing.
 
Cog

Cog

Yes. The ps4 is obviously better than the xbox. That is not for discussion. What I'm asking is that in a world without physical media, how a home console could do better than the xbone. Is it really necessary for it to be always on or connect every 24 hours? It is really necessary to limit resales? What about loans? etc, etc.
 
Krisken

Krisken

Cog said:
Maybe not yet, but lots of people bought sim city and diablo 3 and they obviously don't care about always on drm. My question is more to discuss how different than the xbone this hypothetical console should be .
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I'm sure they did. I'm playing Torchlight 2 because of it though. Half the price and I'm enjoying it more than Diablo 2, which is saying something.
 
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