World War 3?
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thanks for summing up this incredibly complex geopolitical issue with those cool image macros from reddit[DOUBLEPOST=1393965963,1393965718][/DOUBLEPOST]
sorry, can't let it go, that one with all the "good" countries being white people is just fucking precious
GasBandit
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*imgur. A thin division, I know, but it's there.
TIL: There are no non-white people in Canada, the UK, or the USA, and Russians are apparently not white, despite the Caucasus mountains (from which the term Caucasian originates) being in Russia.
GasBandit
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Well, to be fair, he was griping that the good countries were all white, not that all the white countries were good. I threw in russia in my rebuttal to show also that there was an "evil" "white" country.
GasBandit
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So I shared that alignment pic in "User Created" on imgur, and it got a few replies, about 20k views over the course of a day.
Then apparently somebody crossposted it to reddit.
WAASSCHHWOOOOMF. Sits now at 250k views and a whooole lot of butthurt russians in the comments.
Wonder where on reddit exactly it got posted, I couldn't find it.
Then apparently somebody crossposted it to reddit.
WAASSCHHWOOOOMF. Sits now at 250k views and a whooole lot of butthurt russians in the comments.
Wonder where on reddit exactly it got posted, I couldn't find it.
The Crimean Parlaiment has now voted to detach itself completely from the rest of Ukrain and attach itself to Russia as a semi-autonomous region.
This is expected to be ratified by the March 16th referendum.
There are no especially "good" or "bad" sides in this conflict -as Bhamv has pointed out, many of Russia's deployment of troops seems to be with the express interest of avoiding war or civil war by a show of strength. So far, there have been quite a few deaths by the Ukrainian polcie and army (nominally under "Western" control, though mostly still fall-out from the more Russia-minded president) - none from Russian troops.
What I find telling is that, despite 10 years having passed, this new Mid-European conflict immediately showcases the exact same "New Europe" vs "old Europe" conflict of opinions/interest as Iraq did. "New" Europe, being "liberated USSR territory" mostly, is heavily on America's side and is practically asking to abandon all diplomacy and just send "support" troops. That's the Baltic states, Poland, Czechia, Slovenia, Slovakia,... The "old" European countries are the historically war-torn and "war fatigued" countries - Italy, France, Belgium, Spain, etc. Sad to see how little our Eastern allies have changed - though it goes to prove my point we should never have expanded the EU so heavily Eastwards, but have them set up a separate identity.
This is expected to be ratified by the March 16th referendum.
There are no especially "good" or "bad" sides in this conflict -as Bhamv has pointed out, many of Russia's deployment of troops seems to be with the express interest of avoiding war or civil war by a show of strength. So far, there have been quite a few deaths by the Ukrainian polcie and army (nominally under "Western" control, though mostly still fall-out from the more Russia-minded president) - none from Russian troops.
What I find telling is that, despite 10 years having passed, this new Mid-European conflict immediately showcases the exact same "New Europe" vs "old Europe" conflict of opinions/interest as Iraq did. "New" Europe, being "liberated USSR territory" mostly, is heavily on America's side and is practically asking to abandon all diplomacy and just send "support" troops. That's the Baltic states, Poland, Czechia, Slovenia, Slovakia,... The "old" European countries are the historically war-torn and "war fatigued" countries - Italy, France, Belgium, Spain, etc. Sad to see how little our Eastern allies have changed - though it goes to prove my point we should never have expanded the EU so heavily Eastwards, but have them set up a separate identity.
BAHAHAHA! Oh I have heard that song and dance a few times.
Wow, the paint is barely dry on that ship.
GasBandit
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In the Ukrianian cities of Kyiv, Kharkiv, Odessa, Sevastopil, and Simferopil, there have been reports on the Russian news channels of "pro-Russian activists" speaking out about how they "feel threatened by the neo-Nazi fascists in Ukraine" etc. These reports were broadcasted all over the Russian news.
No, they did it sternly.
They said "We respectfully request that you pack up and board the next flight convenient to you."
They said "We respectfully request that you pack up and board the next flight convenient to you."
Holy hell this one killed me.
The GOP has my head spinning with, don't attack Libya, Syria, Yemen... Oh Obama's weak because he won't attack Russia!
GasBandit
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As bad an idea as getting into armed conflict with russia is, at least Ukraine is a sovereign nation invaded by a recognized foreign state with a uniformed military, as opposed to being a "no good guys all bad guys" civil war.
But it's clear to anyone looking at the situation that Russia, despite having de facto invaded Ukraine on the flimsiest of pretexts, is probably going to get away with it because nobody wants to get the Cold War back out of the storage freezer in the garage and stick it in the microwave. The fact of the matter is, because they've got their finger on the oil spigot for most of europe, Russia can do anything it wants, short of invading a NATO member country. They may get some economic sanctions out of this, but that's temporary compared to the eternal thirst Russia has for warm-water ports.
I am just amazed that Gorby let Ukraine keep Crimea, because treating Ukraine as an independent nation was a Cold War ruse to give the Soviets more votes on the Security Council. Slogging it out in Russia is against everyone's best interest.
Since Russia broke the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty it had with Ukraine, Ukraine wants to repeal the treaty and work up some more nuclear weapons.
She's definitely attractive, but yeah, this is a bit much.
