"Transformers 2" is a horrible experience of unbearable leng
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Transformers 2 came out in Japan last Friday. My husband went to see it with some friends and they all hated it.
Pro: Robots were cool.
Cons: Not enough robots. Too much bad human dialog.
Bottom line: If you want to watch this movie just to see some cool explosions, don't. There is way too much crap inbetween the good parts. Just rent the DVD.
Pro: Robots were cool.
Cons: Not enough robots. Too much bad human dialog.
Bottom line: If you want to watch this movie just to see some cool explosions, don't. There is way too much crap inbetween the good parts. Just rent the DVD.
callow, passive aggressive trolls are the absolute worst kindA Troll said:
Shit, I thought that was the only thing in the letter that was complimentary.Charlie Dont Surf said:
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[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QepgKVOVfZ8:7774c7k2][/youtube:7774c7k2]Steve said:
Nice, sir, nice.Considering the source material who in the world expects this to be The Crying Game? You all can rent Chariots of Fire this weekend and weep with joy but the Transformers is nothing more than giant robots kicking the shit out of each other. That's all I want to see. I could care less if the story is secondary. I'm not paying to see Shia perform his heart out. I'm not paying to examine Megan Fox's thumb on the big screen so I can run back to the internet and profess to all my basement dwelling buddies I wouldn't give her the time of day. I'm paying for the last 45 minutes of the movie which is one giant fight scene with dozens of robots.
A Troll, I've got your back on this one.
-- Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:25 pm --
A Troll, I've got your back on this one.
-- Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:25 pm --
Kevin Smith is awesome. I haven't seen that before but that was classic. Protesting his own movie. And I can't believe the local news didn't spend 30 minutes asking him questions. When will that local rag get another chance to corner him.GeneralOrder24 said:
As much as I loathe the "what are you expecting, (classic critically and/or oscar-winning movie)?" argument, ya'll are coming up with some really odd/curious choices for that blank. English Patient? Crying Game? Chariots of Fire?
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i heard there were more pulled back shots. Did the Internet lie to me? or did you just pull that out of your transformers hating butt 
How about this?Charlie Dont Surf said:
It's a two plus hour live action adaptation of an 80s half hour animated toy commercial? Honestly, to expect any kind of decent plot or even ANY kind of character development is setting the bar too high.
The first movie could have been entertaining, if they had cut out all the stuff with the hackers and the desert guys. Admittedly, doing so would lose the scenes with Scorpinok and most of Frenzy, but if they'd just focused on the kid and Bumblebee, it would've been a much tighter plot and overall movie. I mean, once the giant fight downtown at the end of the first movie starts up, all the development with the hackers and the soldiers meant pretty much diddly squat.
From Drew at HitFix.
The reviews at RT are TERRIBLE, it's sinking below 25 as of tonight. Might rise, but so far it's being called a turd at best and horribly racist at worst.
I think I'm actually going to see it. It's sounding SO BAD that I might need to get drunk and do this.
It's been compared to BATMAN and ROBIN, but WORSE. :aaahhh:
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Nerds complain because it wasn't exactly like their nostalgia-filtered memories from their childhood. I'm complaining because it's a poorly made film.Steve said:
I'm talking about the first movie, here. I don't plan on seeing the second one, but most reviews support this view of it anyway.
What will become of this thread without the insightful comments of A Troll?A Troll said:
Here's why this is a completely retarded argument: no one is saying they expect or even want Transformers to aspire to high art. There are plenty of legitimately great movies that aren't high art and don't try to be: Die Hard, Jurassic Park, Them!, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, The Thing, Evil Dead II. These are great movies. What they have and what Transformers lacks is tight scripting, imaginative direction, interesting characters. That is to say, they are extremely well-made films that provide unique experiences. No one wants Citizen Kane every time, and it's stupid to imply that. It is moronic and ridiculous.Steve said:
Essentially, just because a film does not aspire to be high art does not excuse mediocrity.
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I don't think expecting a film to not insult my intelligence by rewarding stupidity is setting the bar too high, tbqhThatNickGuy said:
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Ultimately, he gave it one thumbs down and his big complaint was a little inane.Charlie Dont Surf said:
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What I got from his review is that he liked the movie, but was sort of grumpy about liking it. I don't find his complaint to be inaccurate.TheBrew said:
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:\ I wouldn't use "expect." I'd say "hope." There are people in every career who are either bad at what they do or take on work that is probably not suited for them, and film is no exception. We can hope that a director who's not suited to do a certain project won't disappoint... but to expect them not to do poorly might be asking a bit too much. It doesn't mean he's not competent at other things--but maybe not this project.Kissinger said:
Me, I'm not expecting OR hoping anything in regards to this movie. I was never really into Transformers then, so I feel I don't have a reason to go. If there seemed to be a reason besides "I watched that when I was a kid!" I'd definitely try it out.... maybe not too eagerly after that first one though.
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I was going to respond to your post with this, but for the most part I agree with what you're saying.Cajungal said:
-- Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:05 pm --
I'd be willing to bet that most people who are vehemently defending the first film would take issue with calling the cartoon "shitty."Frankie said:
But this is a point I'm not really interested in arguing too strongly about because what you responded to was just me being flippant.
Heh, don't get me wrong, I loved the cartoon as a kid and it still holds a soft spot in my heart. Hell, I collected the toys into my adulthood (where my current nomadic circumstances meant I gave the collection to some kids) but even I can admit that the 80's cartoon was bad, like most 80's toy commercial cartoons.Kissinger said:
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Honestly, modern children's television is far better than what you and I had as kids. The past 5-10 years has seen some really remarkable kids shows.Shegokigo said:
I just saw it.
And I liked it.
It's stupid, inane, insulting, sometimes even dizzying... but man was I laughing. Either Michael Bay is really one of the most dense people on Earth, or he's a fracking genius and put one over the critics. I mean, there times when the self-parodying reached levels that couldn't have been anything but deliberate.
In some way, I hope this is Bay's criticism of modern Hollywood.
In reality, I know it's the eye-candy blockbuster empty film of the year. We've been rewarding these for years... and, make no mistake, no matter what the critics say.. it's gonna make a killing. I went on opening day on a fracking Tuesday and the theater was packed. TUESDAY.
I'm probably not gonna ever see it again, but I'm glad I did see it. I don't feel like I wasted my two hours, this is... this is something you just have to see. Even if just to learn what the world is coming to.
And I liked it.
It's stupid, inane, insulting, sometimes even dizzying... but man was I laughing. Either Michael Bay is really one of the most dense people on Earth, or he's a fracking genius and put one over the critics. I mean, there times when the self-parodying reached levels that couldn't have been anything but deliberate.
In some way, I hope this is Bay's criticism of modern Hollywood.
In reality, I know it's the eye-candy blockbuster empty film of the year. We've been rewarding these for years... and, make no mistake, no matter what the critics say.. it's gonna make a killing. I went on opening day on a fracking Tuesday and the theater was packed. TUESDAY.
I'm probably not gonna ever see it again, but I'm glad I did see it. I don't feel like I wasted my two hours, this is... this is something you just have to see. Even if just to learn what the world is coming to.
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When I go to watch Jurassic Park I don't go for the social commentary. There is no deep soul searching in that movie. I did not learn a valuable lesson other than how not to hunt raptors. I went in to Jurassic Park expecting Dinosaurs to rip the shit out of stuff. I got Dinosaurs ripping the shit out of shit and one of my favorite movies of all time. JP did not make me think but I had a damn good time watching an excellent piece of film, this is not offered by Transformers. Does this make me an elitist dick?
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I always thought it was interesting that in the book the girl is a useless bag of meat and in the movie they switch the two kids...Cajungal said:
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