Yep, like Bhamv, I have more loyalty to the current Star Wars universe, including the EU, than whatever this new thing is. Like I said, yeah there's practical reasons for tossing it, it's the safer, easier route, but safer and easier is not always best (though it's not always wrong either). To use Marvel as an example again, I doubt the safe and easy route for them is to make a cosmic superhero movie starring a talking raccoon and tree-person, but boy am I glad they're doing it anyway.
[Movies] Star Wars: Episode VII
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You might note, I never questioned the legitimacy of being bummed out by something you like not being a part of a new movie. I totally get that man.
That's fine, I just wanted to make it clear that I wasn't doing some "The company I own no stake in MUST do things my way or they are objectively wrong" fan thing. I am not always the best at actually saying what I'm trying to convey.
Aw man, I'd finally forgotten about the Marvel Mangaverse. Now I have to go drink bleach again. It's gonna be a long week.
Totally, but I've always been of the mind that different mediums must be respected and that one can be enjoyed without ruining the other. But then again I know folks who just loath adaptions or changes to things they hold dear. At that point I start to wonder if perhaps one might be holding that thing a little too dear.
That being said, I still understand that it sucks when something you like gets messed with or changed or in this case, ignored. I think it just happens to often that to things I love that I just had to give up being upset over it.
I'm sure this will be the first time something in the movies contradicts the EU.
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Yeah....Lucas threw out part of the EU for movies 5 and 6. They threw out parts of the EU for episodes 1-3. Why be surprised when they toss other parts for movie 7-9?
Plenty of things in the EU are pretty cool. I love the OR series of games, the Jedi Knight games really had quality, the Thrawn novels were pretty good.
Expecting the new movie to adhere to everything from the EU, though, is like asking them to make a new Spiderman movie and not only not tell the origin story, but to actually be in mine with current comic universe canon. 99% of viewers* haven't read all the comics, if you don't introduce concepts or characters but assume they know who they are, you won't be very successful. Either the new movies'd be set much, much later - thus making them "not eispode 7-9" - or they'd be retelling of books already written (New Jedi Order, Thrawn,...). Neither would be interesting from their POV.
Like the Star Trek reboot, I expect there to be a lot of reappearing characters, also from the EU, in similar-but-slightly-different roles. We'll see. I do understand people not being happy about it, but I don't really think there was another solution.
*This is not a deliberate hyperbole at all.
Plenty of things in the EU are pretty cool. I love the OR series of games, the Jedi Knight games really had quality, the Thrawn novels were pretty good.
Expecting the new movie to adhere to everything from the EU, though, is like asking them to make a new Spiderman movie and not only not tell the origin story, but to actually be in mine with current comic universe canon. 99% of viewers* haven't read all the comics, if you don't introduce concepts or characters but assume they know who they are, you won't be very successful. Either the new movies'd be set much, much later - thus making them "not eispode 7-9" - or they'd be retelling of books already written (New Jedi Order, Thrawn,...). Neither would be interesting from their POV.
Like the Star Trek reboot, I expect there to be a lot of reappearing characters, also from the EU, in similar-but-slightly-different roles. We'll see. I do understand people not being happy about it, but I don't really think there was another solution.
*This is not a deliberate hyperbole at all.
*Sigh* I was going to leave the snarky comments alone, but given how often the same incorrect comparison is being repeated, I feel the need to correct it. This is not a matter of the movies daring to have any points of contradiction. Some conflicts inevitably occur in a franchise that's been going on as long as Star Wars has with as many different writers involved (especially when one of them is George Lucas). As has been mentioned, that's happened before, as has the EU contradicting other parts of the EU and the movies contradicting other movies. What is happening in this case is the entire EU is being thrown out and everything - movies, tv shows, books, and whatever other new media forms they're using - going forward are all going to following this new direction.
They're jumping ahead 30 years for these movies, regardless of whether or not they use any EU material, they'll be introducing new characters and concepts that weren't in the previous movies. Whether they do that successfully is a an issue independent of the use of the EU.
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Jaxxon better have a cameo.
Man, he looks a decade younger. Dude was getting pretty haggard over the last few years, I was actually a little worried.
Yeah, I mean he still looks rough, but dude was putting on a lot of weight and just seemed really, I dunno, tired whenever he was interviewed or something.
Episode 7 Cast & Release Date Announced:
http://starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-7-cast-announced.html
http://starwars.com/news/star-wars-episode-7-cast-announced.html
This movie is gonna be RUSHED...
Don't worry; they'll make it all in a computer.
There will be more practical effects this time a round. I saw a pic of what is likely a life sized AT-AT foot.
Among the new guys, I only know Andy Serkis, Domhnall Gleeson, and Max von Sydow. The rest are strangers to me.
I've decided to think of this as a good thing.
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Whoa. Kind of looks like that guy from the blue collar comedy tour. The one with whiskey and the perpetually slurred speech.It's relative.
I think you're talking about Ron White.
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I just don't care about Star Wars anymore. I'm sick of it like I'm sick of zombies in pop culture.
I feel like I don't care either, but at the same time, I'll allow room for someone to convince me to care again.