Lots and lots of time outs

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I know I seem to be the only one complaining, but the forum is sslsllllllooowwwwww.
The home page, new posts page, and forum overview are all fine. Loading a thread is horribly, horribly slow, though. "new" threads are still slow but a lot faster - it's mainly the longer threads that either take a minute to load, or, more and more often, simply return time out errors. It's become impossible to read the forum at work because literally 3/4s of my attempts simply result in a McAfee "Server took too long to respond" error. On my personal phone I get "invalid response" errors after a minute of waiting.
It's not exactly conductive to desired behaviour if half the time I can't even manage to get anywhere.

Same issue across systems (work, home, phone), browsers, different proxys (work used to be based in Germany, now it's a Dutch proxy; my personal proxy is in Belgium),....
 
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Huh. I thought that my problems were due to the shit Wi-Fi at work which barely reaches into the break room.

Also did anyone else read the thread title & think Bubs was making a thread about all the times @Emrys sent him to the corner to think about what he'd done.
 
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Huh. I thought that my problems were due to the shit Wi-Fi at work which barely reaches into the break room.

Also did anyone else read the thread title & think Bubs was making a thread about all the times @Emrys sent him to the corner to think about what he'd done.
That would've been "Lots and lots of time-outs :unibrow:". :awesome:
 

Dave

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Weird. I've never had an issue. I'll reach out to the hosts. Not sure if they are around today or not, however.
 
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I've been having long load times, too. In Discord, I suggested perhaps this is just the server taking a loooong time to retrieve database records, meaning that the server might need more RAM or to be moved to an SSD. But I don't know what the RAM or HDD utilization looks like, so that was just my guess.
But lately I also wonder if the forum leaves open sessions hanging around for those times you clear your cookies or check in from another location but don't actually log out of the forum. I don't know how long XenForo waits to finally expire a session key.

EDIT: Here's a trace of a page load. Notice how the delay is almost 100% front-loaded, 10.5s waiting for that first response, and then a flurry of activity.

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--Patrick
 
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Notice how the delay is almost 100% front-loaded, 10.5s waiting for that first response, and then a flurry of activity.
That would seem consistent with a SQL database problem, if you ask me. I haven't been experiencing it myself, though, so hard to say for certain. When the host company addresses the SQL issue, we'll see if it clears up.

It's odd how it only happens to some people and not others, though... which makes me wonder if DNS propogation isn't involved?
 
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it only happens to some people and not others, though... which makes me wonder if DNS propogation isn't involved?
It would still have to be pretty widespread, since it happens to me from my home Internet, my cellular, my work, and even from the various public WiFi providers I’ve used. People like Tin are probably the exception, not the rule.

—Patrick
 
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For a while now any time I click on a link for a sub-forum or a thread it takes 5 - 30 seconds for the page to load. The main forums page loads quickly though. I always assumed it was my computer being weird, since the delay isn't nearly as long on my phone. Wait, I'm not logged in on my phone..... Okay, logged in on my phone and started having the same problem. Goes from taking like 2 - 5 seconds to open a thread, to 5- 20+.
 
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That’s the behavior that makes me think it’s a RAM issue, since it could easily be explained by caching behavior.

—Patrick
 
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For a while now any time I click on a link for a sub-forum or a thread it takes 5 - 30 seconds for the page to load. The main forums page loads quickly though. I always assumed it was my computer being weird, since the delay isn't nearly as long on my phone. Wait, I'm not logged in on my phone..... Okay, logged in on my phone and started having the same problem. Goes from taking like 2 - 5 seconds to open a thread, to 5- 20+.
I just tested it, and, yeah. The same device where page loads regularly take 30+ seconds (but I've been having slowdown issues for years), and suddenly everything is lightning fast (2 seconds or so max loading times for the larger threads).
Huge difference.
 
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And while I first thought it might be DNS related too, that doesn't jive with it only affecting logged in users, or only threads and not the forum.
I also notice some threads are way faster than others. Smaller threads tend to be faster, though it quickly shows down, but the Trump thread it's still pretty fast for me, for example.
Maybe it's some plug in or other; it might be waiting on those remembered concepts for replies for example? Even if you never use it, it still looks to see if you do, after all.
 
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