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Ford is a dollar-store knock-off Trump. And I'm nauseated by Ontario's results. This is not going to go well for anyone.
 
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well, at least it's not Mike Harris.

Hey, which emoticon expresses sighing in resignation to this bullshit?
 
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I think it's far more interesting how Justin turned out to be a groping scumbag, despite his "feminist" credentials.
 
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I think it's far more interesting how Justin turned out to be a groping scumbag, despite his "feminist" credentials.
I'm not surprised. Not that I don't think it's not important, but being that thousands of people's jobs are on the line, having a former prime minister (who still holds great sway in the opposition party) sneaking behind our governments back with a famously irrational dickweed wannabe dictator is complete garbage.
 
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Good news Canada, Denbrought does care about you.

Or maybe he's just pretending to get into your pants, i don't know, you guys figure it out.

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On a more serious note, that's just the 1st thing that popped in my mind when i saw the thread go to the top late at night, while i was pretty tired, so i just posted it.

But the really funny thing is that, instead of actually not caring, i went and looked up the Trudeau thing... man, the guy had the Dude-Bro look down pat back then.
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I don't get the joke.

Are you upset no one's talking about Spain? (You're Spanish, right? )
No habla espanol!?
 
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Man, criticize a single human rights violation on Twitter and fucking Saudi Arabia threatens to fly a plane into the CN Tower.

Fuck Saudi Arabia.

Also, fuck every single country's government that doesn't have Canada's back on this one. Fuck you Trump, fuck you May, fuck you Merkel, fuck you Macron, fuck all of you. You fucking cowards.
 
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"Very alarmed to learn that Samar Badawi, Raif Badawi’s sister, has been imprisoned in Saudi Arabia. Canada stands together with the Badawi family in this difficult time, and we continue to strongly call for the release of both Raif and Samar Badawi."

We are such a shit disturbing nation.

Raif is a journalist facing a death sentence in KSA, his wife fled KSA to Canada when the fatwa was pronounced. She and her children became Canadian citizens on July 1 2018. Raif has been imprisoned since 2012 and repeatedly flogged.
 
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So far as I can tell, it really isn't even about the Canadian tweet - Canada is just a convenient target.

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/8/6/...ada-ambassador-persona-non-grata-samar-badawi
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2041 Quebec is fucked.
Like every other industrialized country, Canada will have to face its declining population. Since many of these social systems are based on having a younger work force to bear the burden - a fine plan if your country is growing - they will fail when the workforce starts to decline - which necessarily happens when the fertility rate drops below the replacement rate.

That happened in Canada 40 years ago. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11-630-x/11-630-x2014002-eng.htm

So the social systems must adjust, and like a pyramid scheme the ones at the bottom of the pyramid get screwed the most. The ones at the top - now long dead - had to pay little into the system and got the most out of it. The ones facing the bankruptcy of the social system get to pay the most, and get the least out of it.

That's the problem foisted off onto them by the architects of the social system. The side effects aren't often felt until generations later, and while the rich will weather the storm, the poor will suffer due to the failure of such systems.
 
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Did you need to get that off your chest? Because my post was regarding the Churchill Falls contract expiring. When 15% of Quebecs hydro will jump from 1971 prices to 2041 price overnight.
 
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So, no one posted teh tweet in question yet?

The Saudi responses are something else:

 
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Did you need to get that off your chest? Because my post was regarding the Churchill Falls contract expiring. When 15% of Quebecs hydro will jump from 1971 prices to 2041 price overnight.
Your post initially said 2039 with no context, and the only Quebec 2039 thing that I could find in the news was the Quebec pension plan projected failure.

I know you enjoy posting cryptically, but are you really surprised when someone guesses wrong?
 
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Like every other industrialized country, Canada will have to face its declining population. Since many of these social systems are based on having a younger work force to bear the burden - a fine plan if your country is growing - they will fail when the workforce starts to decline - which necessarily happens when the fertility rate drops below the replacement rate.
What is immigration?


That happened in Canada 40 years ago. https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11-630-x/11-630-x2014002-eng.htm

So the social systems must adjust, and like a pyramid scheme the ones at the bottom of the pyramid get screwed the most. The ones at the top - now long dead - had to pay little into the system and got the most out of it. The ones facing the bankruptcy of the social system get to pay the most, and get the least out of it.

That's the problem foisted off onto them by the architects of the social system. The side effects aren't often felt until generations later, and while the rich will weather the storm, the poor will suffer due to the failure of such systems.
Ah yes, i think we all remember the giant upheaval of Canadian society 40 years ago, in the late 1970's... no other place was plagued by so much upheaval at that time...

The funny tihng about SS is that you can always pay it if your economy is growing (yes, i know, progressive taxes are socialism), and if it's not... well then, the entire capitalist system is in trouble anyway, the lack of pension funds will not be the main thing to worry about.
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Your post initially said 2039 with no context, and the only Quebec 2039 thing that I could find in the news was the Quebec pension plan projected failure.

I know you enjoy posting cryptically, but are you really surprised when someone guesses wrong?
You missed the post right above his... and the norm that forum posts can be responses to the previous post if they directly follow it, with quotes only for when it doesn't.
 
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What is immigration?
I suspect this is only a short term fix. As other countries rise economically, immigration to a low birth rate country is less desirable.

It's better, IMO, to fix the social system so it's not a pyramid in the first place.

The funny tihng about SS is that you can always pay it if your economy is growing (yes, i know, progressive taxes are socialism)
This assumes that the economy is closely coupled to people's wages. It's possible for the economy to grow while wages stagnate, and in fact I suspect that's happening in the US as corporations and the rich are constructing economic systems that pass profits to them, skipping the lower and middle class entirely.

You missed the post right above his... and the norm that forum posts can be responses to the previous post if they directly follow it, with quotes only for when it doesn't.
And if he had posted "2041" in the first place rather than an edit later I might have caught it. As it is the wikipedia post mentioned nothing about 2039, and google brought me nothing but the Quebec pension system failure date.
 
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I suspect this is only a short term fix. As other countries rise economically, immigration to a low birth rate country is less desirable.
In the long term, all solutions are short term...



It's better, IMO, to fix the social system so it's not a pyramid in the first place.
Yeah, a square would be the best shape... but then the old people with the most time on their hands to go vote would object to their pensions being too low...


This assumes that the economy is closely coupled to people's wages. It's possible for the economy to grow while wages stagnate, and in fact I suspect that's happening in the US as corporations and the rich are constructing economic systems that pass profits to them, skipping the lower and middle class entirely.
Hence teh "(yes, i know, progressive taxes are socialism)" part, which you even quoted yourself...


And if he had posted "2041" in the first place rather than an edit later I might have caught it. As it is the wikipedia post mentioned nothing about 2039, and google brought me nothing but the Quebec pension system failure date.
I don't see the relevance of the year, especially since it didn't jump out at me even after skimming the links Eriol posted.

If you actually read them in depth, it's even less of an excuse, since they should have been fresh in your mind, and asking him if he's by any chance mistaken about the year seems like less of a leap then googling sometihng that's unrelated to what the thread is on about at the time.

Like, it's ok to admit you went in a weird place with your assumptions...
 
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First, the year was posted by @HCGLNS not me. Minor, but if you re-read your post, you think it was me.
Hence teh "(yes, i know, progressive taxes are socialism)" part, which you even quoted yourself...
Second, the problem we're in here is that we disagree on both the problem and the solution here. Is income inequality a problem in the first place? It arguably is if people are dying as a result of it, but by its very nature? That's something separate. And then after that, let's just say it is a problem, is taxation really the best solution to such? Giving more money to government, who is more easily influenced by power players, just seems like a means to entrench power in those elites even more. I'm just re-stating @stienman here though, as the government is the one who usually most heavily influences which "system" we're in.
 
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First, the year was posted by @HCGLNS not me. Minor, but if you re-read your post, you think it was me.
Nope: after skimming the links Eriol posted.


Second, the problem we're in here is that we disagree on both the problem and the solution here. Is income inequality a problem in the first place? It arguably is if people are dying as a result of it, but by its very nature? That's something separate. And then after that, let's just say it is a problem, is taxation really the best solution to such?
Fix it in another way, i'll wait.

And sure, of course income inequality isn't an issue if it doesn't lead to anything bad... that's what makes most things issues.

But anyway, i was mostly pointing out the flaw in his argument, so even if you did find a way to make SS work without taxes (post scarcity, but then it would no longer be SS, just free access to what you need), the point i was making still stands...

as the government is the one who usually most heavily influences which "system" we're in.
It's like you don't believe in democracy as a concept.

And for fucks sakes, it's still just taxation, you're not even giving them more power, not paying 1% taxes or 50% taxes still end with you in jail.

Plus, how have you not understood by now that money will get to corrupt politician even without taxes, as clearly demonstrated by lobbying and PAC's etc.
 
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Add John Baird to the list hypocritical traitors doing everything to undermine Canada on the international stage. 3 years ago the Saudi flogging of a protestor waa a concern but now it's Canada sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong? Fuck you. Stay in Saudi Arabia you piece of shit.
 
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Add John Baird to the list hypocritical traitors doing everything to undermine Canada on the international stage. 3 years ago the Saudi flogging of a protestor waa a concern but now it's Canada sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong? Fuck you. Stay in Saudi Arabia you piece of shit.
The John Baird that sits on the advisory board for Barrick which has substantial mining interests in SA? That John Baird? (Asshole)

The John Baird that tweeted this out 3 years ago?


(Asshole)
 
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