it would look bad since that viewpoint is total bullshit. How do you think that would look?
it would look bad since that viewpoint is total bullshit. How do you think that would look?
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!it would look bad since that viewpoint is total bullshit
I don't know about this. He doesn't really make the argument that mocking everyone serves the powerful, he just says that.
You are amazingly dense.it would look bad since that viewpoint is total bullshit
That is a very insightful point. And it is a bit disturbing.it says satire is already self-limited due to the satirists own worldview, and asks for self-reflection on what that might mean.
I don't think you mean it like that, but this reads a lot like endorsing genocideDrive them into the sea, indeed.
Yeah. Again, the content of the cartoons doesn't matter. Had this happened to the Westboro Baptist Church, I would still be appalled, because while I think they're lowlife scum and wrong about everything ever, they don't deserve to be murdered for those views."I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall (though attributed to Voltaire)
I think Charlie Don't Surf's grievance is not that they deserve censorship (and certainly not murder) but that they also don't deserve publication for their views.Yeah. Again, the content of the cartoons doesn't matter. Had this happened to the Westboro Baptist Church, I would still be appalled, because while I think they're lowlife scum and wrong about everything ever, they don't deserve to be murdered for those views.
You are correct, of course, but his was only one of 50+ arrests over the same charge, which is a stretch of a charge to begin with. His comment about the suspect in the policewoman shooting is only notable because he's famous. Well, French famous, which means nobody else has heard of him.Shooting a policeman is not fucking pro-Islam.
Not that I agree with his arrest.
Dieudonné is a very well known comedian, who's been arrested several times for several similar things. He's the "inventor" of the Quenelle (which is pretty much the Hitler salute downwards), he's said the Holocaust was vastly exagerated and doesn't deserve the attention it gets, he's supported antisemitic publications. In shows he's publicly called for people to go and attack orthodox Jews (throw off their hats, pull their curls, cut their beards).You are correct, of course, but his was only one of 50+ arrests over the same charge, which is a stretch of a charge to begin with. His comment about the suspect in the policewoman shooting is only notable because he's famous. Well, French famous, which means nobody else has heard of him.
Nope; that's where the dead were, but there's house searches all over the place - Verviers is a 2 hour drive or so awayFrom Verviers, are we?![]()
https://www.europol.europa.eu/conte...ion-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2014 for trends and influences in 2013. As they note themselves in the foreword, therse numbers can't be read in a vacuum - which is exactly what some left politicians are doing right now. The beheading of a soldier in the UK? Not a terrorist act. Myeah. Stuff like that. Anyway, those are the numbers the article I saw were based on.I'd like some links to more info about that.
The word christian does not appear even once in that document. Muslim appears 25 times, and islam 23 times. The word behead does not appear, nor decapitate. The word soldier appears 8 times but does not mention any christian-inspired terrorist attacks in their uses. The word catholic appears once, but it is in reference to the bombing of a catholic school in Spain. I'm having a hard time seeing how this document is evidence of an underreported wave of religious-based christian terrorism that is killing more people than islamic terrorism.https://www.europol.europa.eu/conte...ion-terrorism-situation-and-trend-report-2014 for trends and influences in 2013. As they note themselves in the foreword, therse numbers can't be read in a vacuum - which is exactly what some left politicians are doing right now. The beheading of a soldier in the UK? Not a terrorist act. Myeah. Stuff like that. Anyway, those are the numbers the article I saw were based on.
Am I? You said:Now you're deliberately twisting my words.
No, I threw that in there because of the earlier discussion in this thread about the IRA, so I was trying to see if that figured in at all.I never said there was a wave of underrepoted Catholic terorrism.
There you're twisting your own words, and moving the goalpost. You've gone from "more deaths by christian fundamentalists" to "the idea that most terrorism is muslim-extremism is false." That's two different positions because the latter includes political/secular terrorism, whereas the former directly compares two specific brands of religious terrorism.I said a large part of terrorism wasn't carried out by muslims. Leftist Belgium uses that document to say "only 2% of all terrorism was by Muslims" which is, itself, also a deliberate misinterpretation of the numbers. But the idea that "most" terrorism is muslim-extremism is false, though. Also, that's only the 2013 report. Take the same for the years before (same site) and enjoy.