Star Wars Ep. VII has a name...
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They are. The Empire is very much a human centric regime, but even then there are distinctions: virtually all officers are white people with British accents. That black guy is a full Imperial citizen with rights privileges... it's just that he gets the shit jobs because he's not white or upper class. He's still treated better than just about any alien however... even the Chiss (who didn't fight the Empire and instead joined up almost instantly), who can actually become officers, are treated like shit.
If it is the character Zare Leonis, then he would be an official Stormtrooper as he went through academy training, but would be working undercover with the rebels. Likely in the future, even though the empire has been broken, he may still be working undercover with the new government to take down whatever remains of the Imperials. Again, assuming the guy in the teaser is Zare.
Grievous wasn't a Sith, he did not have any force capabilities.[DOUBLEPOST=1417461824,1417461540][/DOUBLEPOST]
Oh, I see how it is. Just because he's black, he must have stolen that armor. That's racist.
Here's the relevant point from the Star Wars wiki:
"On April 25, 2014, Lucasfilm Ltd. announced that in preparation for the upcoming sequel trilogy, the Expanded Universe would not appear in any future Star Wars materials; past tales of the Expanded Universe will be printed under the Star Wars Legends banner, and a new continuity has been established that consists only of the original six films, the Star Wars: The Clone Wars television series and film, and all future material from that point onward. Though past elements of the Expanded Universe have been declared non-canon as a whole, they remain a resource for future Star Wars material to reference elements of the EU, thus bringing these elements into the new continuity as canon."
Yeah, what's interesting and slightly non-obvious is that all future books and other EU materials are actually more canon (as much as that makes sense) now than under the old system, where they were relegated to a lower canon "tier". It's just the pre-existing material (minus the Clone wars tv show) that's being tossed out.
Didn't the clones have an accelerated lifespan anyway? The Jango clones would be LONG dead at this point, and I'm pretty sure the orig trig mentions recruitment of Storm Troopers at some point.
Why would the empire continue to invest in expensive clones when they can just recruit? Probably the same reason that they don't use robot armies anymore.
When you think about it, Han Solo and Luke taking the Stormtrooper outfits and trying to sneak into the Death Star would have been impossible if they were just all "Jango" clones, not just because of size differences in the outfits, but also because you would never be able to disguise your voice. I don't get why everyone thinks all the Stormtroopers are Jango clones now.
GasBandit
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Because the movie where they were all clones came out more recently, and a great many fans are johnny-come-lately posers/casuals who only go by the movies and their headcanon, without double checking wookiepedia, much less actually consuming any other content.
They don't use robot armies because droids are much more likely to disobey an order than a clone is and it's fairly simple to alter a droid's programing to make it fight for you. But clones are also quite expensive when you are trying to expand an empire.. so after awhile, all you can afford to do is recruit locally and ship arms.
This is also why TIE Fighters don't get atmosphere or shields: the Empire needs to make many of them but the likely hood of survival for their missions is low, so they did a cost benefit analysis... which told them it would be cheaper to integrate all life support into cheap flight suits. As for shields... well, only fresh rookies get TIE fighter jobs. Shields go to guys who have proven their worth, which is why they get Advanced, Defenders, Gunboats, Missile boats, or Interceptors.
Canon is kind of weird. I know the DEFENDER got an official LEGO set in 2010, so it's likely. It's also had several comic and novel appearances, as well as a mention in the 2014 Fantasy Flight Age of Rebellion core rules. It's not been on TV or in the Movies, but we only JUST got a TIE Advanced confirmed if we go by that.
GasBandit
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There were TIE interceptors and bombers on screen during the Battle of Endor, and Bombers were used to try to flush the millenium falcon out of the asteroid field after the battle of Hoth. the Defender and the Avenger (the production model of the Advanced) are the only TIEs of dubious canonical value, and I don't think I've seen a gunboat or missile boat anywhere other than the games.
It seems crazy to me that the A-Wing and even the dumb B-wing are canon but the TIE Defender is in limbo.
GasBandit
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I remembered that right after I hit submit and went back in to edit and add it.
TIE Oppressors as well. Gunboats don't get a lot of love anywhere, not even in the novels.
GasBandit
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To be fair, they were pretty shitty even in the game. The gunboat missions were a chore you had to get through to earn your Advanced.
GasBandit
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The B-Wing is the scrappy-doo of the alliance fleet.
Why is it still Empire vs Rebels? Can anyone tell me? It's been 30 years since what was supposed to be the big victory, so why in a universe this diverse has nothing changed?
Just because you overthrow a dictator doesn't mean the whole regime crumbles.
See: the middle east.
What they said. The Empire was vast and the Imperial Remnants are still pretty dangerous. Blowing up the second Death Star and killing the Emperor only turned the tide... now the Republic (it's not a Rebellion anymore) have serious manufacturing capability and soldiers, but they still have enemies.
Maybe the remnants of the empire are now the good guy plucky underdogs, and the new republic has grown into a corrupt entity oppressing the galaxy.
I mean, the Emperor and his direct lieutenants were evil, but that doesn't mean all of the empire was, right? There had to be some guys that thought they were bringing order to the galaxy, and didn't know about all the planet exploding and force choking.
I mean, the Emperor and his direct lieutenants were evil, but that doesn't mean all of the empire was, right? There had to be some guys that thought they were bringing order to the galaxy, and didn't know about all the planet exploding and force choking.