[Movies] Confess your movie sins to me, and be absolved

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I love Clockwork Orange, but then I also love The Pirate Movie.
Never seen anything else by Kubrick though still plan to get around to 2001 some day.
One of 5 movies to take to a lonely island for me would definitely be Excalibur. LOVE it!
 
I think Excalibur is amazing, but it's to blame for every fantasy epic film using women singing non-sensical latin at the top of their lungs during the great battles.
 

ElJuski

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I love Clockwork Orange, but then I also love The Pirate Movie.
Why do people always try to base themselves and say "I have seen and enjoyed X movie, but then again, I'm the type of dope that likes Y"? You can be a well read TV / Movie / TV / music buff and still have clunkers. Or, in your case, not even clunkers, just a movie that isn't part of the canon or high art. Lowbrow and other entertainments still have their function in your pop-culture diet, and lowbrow entertainment still requires a certain talent and genius to execute well.

I'm a shitty Van Damme and Stallone movie junkie. Doesn't mean I'm a moron, or have bad taste. Now if that's all I watched...
 
I love The Pirate Movie, but then I also enjoyed Clockwork orange. :aaah:
Better that way round? ;)

I just wanted to show that I like everything that I like and stand true to it. I'm still not interested in Citizen Kane though.
I didn't want to base myself, don't worry, but thanks for your words nonetheless!
 

Necronic

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Spawn is a great example of why corporate businessmen shouldn't have creative control. I know one of the guys who was involved in that in a pretty high up position, and the story I heard was basically like this:
The company: "You have to tone it down, it's got to be PG 13. Only teenagers go to see comic book movies"
Producer: "But the comic is for mature readers. It deals with some pretty heavy stuff."
The company: "Yeah, dumb it down a bit too. Kids aren't very smart. Lots of explosions and special effects."
Producer: "Well, All these effects shots you've got the writers to add in are stretching us thin. Can we at least get some more funding for the effects budget? ."
The company: "No."
Spawn doesn't have to be gruesome to be an effective tale. The importance of it is about the manipulation of spawn and his pride into a series of no-win situations. All the stuff with Billy Kincaid (the ice-cream killer) is just flavor and not really necessary. In some ways the comic book just panders to the excessive violence that wasn't really needed, but was just in there because it was shocking at the time. Think about it relative to a book like Crossed, where you HAVE to have excessive violence. The story of Spawn didn't require it. So, I don't begrudge the movie for not having it, even if the motivation was a bit weak.

That and honestly John Leguazamo completely nailed the role of the Violator
 
Spawn doesn't have to be gruesome to be an effective tale. The importance of it is about the manipulation of spawn and his pride into a series of no-win situations. All the stuff with Billy Kincaid (the ice-cream killer) is just flavor and not really necessary. In some ways the comic book just panders to the excessive violence that wasn't really needed, but was just in there because it was shocking at the time. Think about it relative to a book like Crossed, where you HAVE to have excessive violence. The story of Spawn didn't require it. So, I don't begrudge the movie for not having it, even if the motivation was a bit weak.

That and honestly John Leguazamo completely nailed the role of the Violator
Adult != gruesome. I didn't read that into his post at all.

Spawn was a confused mess of a movie. The ONLY good thing about that movie was John Leguazamo's performance.
 
Adult != gruesome. I didn't read that into his post at all.

Spawn was a confused mess of a movie. The ONLY good thingS about that movie was were John Leguazamo's performance, AND THE EFFECTS ANIMATION ON THE VIOLATOR
The visual effects supervisor/ second unit director/ sole animator of the Violator on that movie is a friend of mine and also sort of a hero of mine, so I feel the need to correct this.

But yes, I didn't mean to imply that it was only gore that was missing. From what I hear about that movie, nobody was happy with the way it was dumbed down. I'm sure not even the writers were happy they were forced to work it they way they were.
 

Necronic

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Ah my bad, I misunderstood you. Maybe I should watch it again, because I don't remember it being that bad.
 
Oh, man. Where do I begin? The list of movies I haven't seen that I ought've is legion. Let me rattle off a SHORT list of the movies I've somehow missed, in no particular order (and without reading the rest of this thread):

Gone with the Wind
The Office
Children of Men
Singin' in the Rain - Finally watched this a couple years ago.
The Seven Samurai
The Magnificent Seven
Once Upon a Time in the West
African Queen
Casablanca
Saving Private Ryan
Easy Rider
The Godfather (any of them)
The Graduate
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
A Clockwork Orange
Pulp Fiction
The Shawshank Redemption
The Green Mile
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Schindler's List
Taxi Driver
The Deer Hunter
Cool Hand Luke
Slap Shot
Reservoir Dogs
Goodfellas
Unforgiven
El Camino
The Avengers (in fact, I haven't seen any of the other movies except the first Iron Man)
The Sound of Music
Metropolis
Deliverance
Groundhog Day
The Crying Game
The Sixth Sense
Unbreakable
Field of Dreams
Bull Durham
Freaks
Full Metal Jacket
Thelma and Louise
Trainspotting
Risky Buisiness
Top Gun
The Big Lebowski - Finally saw this one last year
Starman
Toy Story II & III (I've only seen the first one)
Up
Wall-E
Shrek the Turd Third
An American in Paris
When Harry Met Sally
Minority Report
Memento
Fight Club
Barton Fink
Pan's Labyrinth
Basic Instinct (either)
Die Hard III & IV
Lethal Weapon III & IV
Fargo
The English Patient
La Femme Nikita
Donnie Darko
The Toxic Avenger
Gangs of New York
Nightmare on Elm Street (any)
Psycho
Misery
Raising Arizona
Zoolander
Serpico
Spirited Away
Expendables
The Warriors
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (any)
Clerks (any)
Death Race (either)
Mommie Dearest
Night of the Living Dead
Blair Witch Project
Leprechaun (any)
Troll (any)
Gremlins 2

--Patrick
 
Oh, man. Where do I begin? The list of movies I haven't seen that I ought've is legion. Let me rattle off a SHORT list of the movies I've somehow missed, in no particular order (and without reading the rest of this thread):

Gone with the Wind
The Office
Children of Men
Singin' in the Rain - Finally watched this a couple years ago.
The Seven Samurai
The Magnificent Seven
Once Upon a Time in the West
African Queen
Casablanca
Saving Private Ryan
Easy Rider
The Godfather (any of them)
The Graduate
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
A Clockwork Orange
Pulp Fiction
The Shawshank Redemption
The Green Mile
O Brother, Where Art Thou?
Schindler's List
Taxi Driver
The Deer Hunter
Cool Hand Luke
Slap Shot
Reservoir Dogs
Goodfellas
Unforgiven
El Camino
The Avengers (in fact, I haven't seen any of the other movies except the first Iron Man)
The Sound of Music
Metropolis
Deliverance
Groundhog Day
The Crying Game
The Sixth Sense
Unbreakable
Field of Dreams
Bull Durham
Freaks
Full Metal Jacket
Thelma and Louise
Trainspotting
Risky Buisiness
Top Gun
The Big Lebowski - Finally saw this one last year
Starman
Toy Story II & III (I've only seen the first one)
Up
Wall-E
Shrek the Turd Third
An American in Paris
When Harry Met Sally
Minority Report
Memento
Fight Club
Barton Fink
Pan's Labyrinth
Basic Instinct (either)
Die Hard III & IV
Lethal Weapon III & IV
Fargo
The English Patient
La Femme Nikita
Donnie Darko
The Toxic Avenger
Gangs of New York
Nightmare on Elm Street (any)
Psycho
Misery
Raising Arizona
Zoolander
Serpico
Spirited Away
Expendables
The Warriors
Texas Chainsaw Massacre (any)
Clerks (any)
Death Race (either)
Mommie Dearest
Night of the Living Dead
Blair Witch Project
Leprechaun (any)
Troll (any)
Gremlins 2

--Patrick
 
Haven't seen John Carter, either.

--Patrick
I'll see it on Tuesday or Wednesday, at home. I just finally saw Avengers friday, so don't feel bad. I usually wait for cheaper movie tickets or DVD since it's just cheaper to buy most of the time.
 
Hey, when theaters start charging reasonable rates, that list will shrink.

--Patrick
Yes, I'm sure the dime they were charging for you to see Casablanca when it came out really busted your wallet :p.

Most of those are older movies at this point. Get yourself some Netflix or shit like that.
 
your list makes me so mad

so mad
I know, right? And we haven't even gotten into the classic television I've missed. Seinfeld (never seen), Dexter (never seen), Game of Thrones (never seen), Friends (never seen), Ally McBeal (never seen), etc. It's amazing I manage to function at all in social situations.

--Patrick
 
The television (especially sitcoms ie: Seinfeld, Friends) is more of a "in the moment" type thing. They've ended, and what you need to "know" you already know. Unless you are a fan of the actors/show don't worry about it. Unless, you are trying to appeal to somebody that is a fan and you need that background to have more meaningful conversations with that person.
 

ElJuski

Staff member
back in the day, nickels were called bees...five bees for a quarter, you'd say.
I know, right? And we haven't even gotten into the classic television I've missed. Seinfeld (never seen), Dexter (never seen), Game of Thrones (never seen), Friends (never seen), Ally McBeal (never seen), etc. It's amazing I manage to function at all in social situations.

--Patrick


The television (especially sitcoms ie: Seinfeld, Friends) is more of a "in the moment" type thing. They've ended, and what you need to "know" you already know. Unless you are a fan of the actors/show don't worry about it. Unless, you are trying to appeal to somebody that is a fan and you need that background to have more meaningful conversations with that person.
That's like saying, "Oh, you know what Casablanca is about, WW2, blah blah, it's unimportant. WHY ARE YOU SO WRONG
 
It's true that 90% of television has a short shelf life. But that other 10%? Sometimes that stuff is as good as any film. There's a ton of excellent television over the last 10-15 years that still stands as some of the best work around.
 
That's like saying, "Oh, you know what Casablanca is about, WW2, blah blah, it's unimportant. WHY ARE YOU SO WRONG
No, I don't think I am. Sitcoms, specifically, deal with many things that are topical and specific to the time, when set as a current day situation. I'm not saying that watching specific episodes can't be useful and entertaining, but the whole series, usually not worth it.

I am not applying this to movies, which is what you came back with in your response.
 

ElJuski

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Seinfeld, News Radio, Friends, I Love Lucy, Dick Van Dyke... off the top of my head these are five shows that transcend sitcom "topicality". If you're sitting there watching bullshit like Big Bang Theory or How I Met Your Mother, than yeah, mostly useless. But these shows, though very much indebted to the 90's, are also paragons of television scripted comedy that is a strong foundation for what's going on today. It's unfair to say that most TV is stuck to its year or decade--that's just an assumption, and it's silly, Silly Billy.
 

ElJuski

Staff member
I didn't even bring up non-sitcom shows like Arrested Development, Firefly, or The Simpsons, which, god forbid anyone watched that dated garbage.
 
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