[TV] The General Marvel TV/Streaming Thread

Dave

Staff member
March 18 is a Friday and for that I'm glad. I'm going to be very tired Saturday and Sunday from staying up bingeing the show.
 
So people are whining that Danny Rand shouldn't have been a white guy.

Even though the character is a white guy.

Apparently he should have been cast as an Asian-American, because reasons. The reasons basically sounding like they could all be prefaced with "I'm not a racist, but..."
 
So people are whining that Danny Rand shouldn't have been a white guy.

Even though the character is a white guy.

Apparently he should have been cast as an Asian-American, because reasons. The reasons basically sounding like they could all be prefaced with "I'm not a racist, but..."
Well, I think it was io9 that suggested it was initially racist in the comics in the first place (white guy discovers culture, learns secrets better than the natives) and this was a chance to undo that. Additionally, they made the point that his being white doesn't really matter to his story at all, so he could be any ethnicity and it would be virtually the same. I don't know enough about the character to say otherwise. I certainly don't feel any ownership over Iron Fist's ethnicity.
 
Well, I think it was io9 that suggested it was initially racist in the comics in the first place (white guy discovers culture, learns secrets better than the natives) and this was a chance to undo that. Additionally, they made the point that his being white doesn't really matter to his story at all, so he could be any ethnicity and it would be virtually the same. I don't know enough about the character to say otherwise. I certainly don't feel any ownership over Iron Fist's ethnicity.
Except it completely changes the dynamic of the Luke Cage/Iron Fist friendship and the social implications of it from the period in which it was forged (the early 70's). There would be no underlying commentary about how it was possible for white and black people to simply get a long instead of constantly trying to undermine each other if Iron Fist wasn't himself white. It would be a completely different dynamic; that of two minority heroes bonding and working together in a world where they were both constantly being shit on. That's a fine story, but it's also not the story of Heroes for Hire.

Oddly enough, it almost feels like Iron Fist being white actually works BETTER today because of how mainstream martial arts are in our day and age. It's available to everyone, where as in the 70's it was still kind of closed off to a lot of people for racial reasons. Back then it was just a blatant race-lift fantasy, but these days it's basically mundane.

So I guess the issue really is which do you think is more important: a story of interracial harmony in a time when it's sorely needed or making up for some blatant racist shit from the 70's. Both are good causes but we really only get to do anything about one of them.
 
his being white doesn't really matter to his story at all, so he could be any ethnicity and it would be virtually the same.
I think they already made a movie where they played with mixing up the ethnicity angle.

(no I haven't seen it yet, at least not all of it)

--Patrick
 
Mike Colter has announced the release date for Luke Cage -- September 30th. (CBR)

That Hashtag show is reporting more casting rumors for Iron Fist, including Colleen Wing, and the Steel Serpent.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
First look at Diamondback from Luke Cage:


For reference (from the Marvel Wiki)

That helmet looks ridiculous. I mean, I can understand not going with the... snakescale weave whatever jumpsuit... but that helmet looks like a small child fashioned it out of things he found around the kitchen.
 
Iron Fist
Plane crash?
iPod from 2004?
Insane asylum?
Fake beard is fake, but ok I'm willing to give it a shot.

Luke Cage
Hoping this doesn't turn out to be "Hancock: The TV Series," and also hoping it doesn't become a place for up-and-coming artists to show off their new mixtapes. More interested in this one than Iron Fist, honestly. I don't know, maybe it's because it's more relateable? Less challenging to write?

--Patrick
 
Iron Fist
Plane crash?
iPod from 2004?
Insane asylum?
Fake beard is fake, but ok I'm willing to give it a shot.

Luke Cage
Hoping this doesn't turn out to be "Hancock: The TV Series," and also hoping it doesn't become a place for up-and-coming artists to show off their new mixtapes. More interested in this one than Iron Fist, honestly. I don't know, maybe it's because it's more relateable? Less challenging to write?

--Patrick

Iron Fist's origin is getting lost in the mountains as a child and being picked up/trained by monks after his parents die out in the wilderness. Considering his power comes from a magic hidden city and the molten heart of a dragon, people thinking he came back bonkers isn't too far-fetched.
 
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