[Movies] MCU: Phase 3 And Beyond
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I noticed comments like that in the comments section on the article. I don't get why people are assuming that Harley and Ivy are heroes in this group. Why wouldn't this group of super heroes also have villains? The last thing I think that would be beneficial for this push would be for them to battle shopping and talking about boys. If they're going to market them to girls, I want them to do it as characters, not a collection of little girl stereotypes. I'd find that.... counterproductive to the intent of doing it in the first place.
Hey man, that time she used game boys to blow up a shitload of kids to make the dead Joker like her isn't canon, it's cool.Ah Harley, there's a role model.
I was reading about this earlier and thought it's a great idea...but please don't slather it in pink, DC. This is also surprising coming from a company that cancelled Young Justice because it was drawing a largely female audience.You know, amid me bitching about Black Widow stuff here, DC goes and does this and you know what, my niece is gonna fucking love this. Especially Bumblebee, since even less common than female super hero stuff, is black female super hero stuff (niece is half Jamaican, half whitey McIrishdaughter).
http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2015/0...ership-with-mattel-launch-dc-super-hero-girls
I'm assuming Harley and Ivy are included because they're going to focus on villains, too. (Can't really be a hero if there's nobody to stop.) I'm not so sure about Ivy looking like she's from so kind of Tinkerbell/Winx Club-thing, but that's probably the best costume design I've seen on Harley since they stopped using her classic jumpsuit.
This was MY immediate thought. If you're going to market Harley to girls, you need to drop the "crazy stalker/abused girlfriend" angle she has in the comics because little girls are going to be sad as hell when they find out about that shit.Ah Harley, there's a role model.
Also, I kind of wish they were using some of these characters differently: Wonder Woman should be the adult role model/mentor to the girls, along side Barbara Gordon as Oracle. Have Selina Kyle be the darker mentor.
GasBandit
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Ah Harley, there's a role model.
Don't worry, I'm sure by the time DC's done with them, she'll be Pinky Pie in red and black tights.
God do I miss Oracle. Way to get rid of one of the only prominent disabled super heroes besides Daredevil, DC.
On one hand, her crippling was never meant to be canon, but on the other... yeah, Oracle was awesome. I miss her, too.
I think John Ostrander might dispute that. He essentially created Oracle as the living repository of information we know and love and developed the character for over a year in the pages of Suicide Squad before even revealing that it was Babs. No slam to anything that has been done recently, but that was one of the best planned reveals in DC history and it had the complete support and backing of then DC editorial. While Babara getting crippled in the Killing Joke may not have been intended to be canon... the creation of Oracle absolutely was.
Unitl the NU52....
I meant the injuries she received in the Killing Joke leading to her Oracle status, not Oracle herself.
THE HELL? I have no idea how a post from the Shield thread got posted here. I hate Tapatalk.
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I hope they don't slather it in pink as @CeltZ said, but I also hope they don't run away from it either. I hesitate to say this, but one of the few societal advantages girls have over boys (and women over men) is greater freedom of personal expression through clothing, hair, etc. While I hope the designers don't feel like these characters have to be frilly and pink, I hope that they let them organically be so if their character wants it.
You do realise you just proved Celt Z's point, right?
Daniel Bruhl has confirmed his part in Captain America: Civil War. He will be playing Helmut Zemo, also known as Baron Zemo.
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...play-helmut-zemo-in-captain-america-civil-war
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...play-helmut-zemo-in-captain-america-civil-war
GasBandit
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I always wondered why they called Baron Strucker "Baron Strucker" in EMH, but they shortened Baron Zemo to just "Zemo."
Separated at birth.
figmentPez
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I guess we're finally getting a Black Widow movie...
Fucking nbc.
HEY, NBC, you know Lorne Michaels is CANADIAN, right? Let us watch his fucking show.
HEY, NBC, you know Lorne Michaels is CANADIAN, right? Let us watch his fucking show.
I don't know if that's more funny or sad because it's so on the nose.
Some more cast members have been announced for Captain America: Civil War, with plenty of folks reprising roles. In this case, Paul Rudd as Scott Lang, William Hurt as General Thaddeus Ross, and Emily VanCamp as Agent 13. Martin Freeman will also have a role, but they haven't announced who he is playing.
Also, they have announced a basic plot synopsis. Essentially, after the Avengers have another mission that results in collateral damage, political pressure forces the issue of creating a governing body to determine when and what circumstances require the Avengers. This issue causes some fracturing of the team, while they also deal with the threat of Baron Zemo.
Also, they have announced a basic plot synopsis. Essentially, after the Avengers have another mission that results in collateral damage, political pressure forces the issue of creating a governing body to determine when and what circumstances require the Avengers. This issue causes some fracturing of the team, while they also deal with the threat of Baron Zemo.
Whoa, General Ross is back? Damn.
While I'm excited for the movies we're getting, I realized today that phase 3 is going to have a bit more than either other phase.
While I'm excited for the movies we're getting, I realized today that phase 3 is going to have a bit more than either other phase.
I know. With how little has been happening with the Hulk aside from his film and the Avengers movies, I was wondering if anyone would come back from his film. Cool to hear this is happening.
Honestly, my guess is that General Ross is one of the guys leading the push for that new governing body. Considering his interactions with the Hulk and the events of Age of Ultron, I could see him coming in and pushing for some sort of control over the Avengers.
It really sucks we can't get a solo Hulk movie. Universal apparently has the rights to that and they're not budging.
Lots of folks are showing up in Civil War, more than filmfanatic mentioned.
That...sounds awfully crowded to me.
My concern also. The Captain America movies are among the best of the MCU and I'd hate to see the third one turn into a huge mess.
They've started filming today and Mark Ruffalo says it's still up in the air whether he's going to be in it or not (I'm guessing not, but he still has four or five movies to his contract).
I hope this one doesn't turn into a mess as well. It's the same writing and directing teams as Captain America: The Winter Soldier, so hopefully it maintains the same quality. At best, I figure most of the characters will have small appearances for their part in the division of this conflict, with most of the focus probably being on a few key figures like Cap, Black Panther, and Tony Stark.
Honestly, my worry is that I hope they manage to balance out the story of the conflict within the superhero community with whatever scheme Baron Zemo will be orchestrating.
Yeah, I get the feeling MOST of those characters will relegated to cameos, like quick interviews with them or something. Or, say if there were a trial, they'd make appearances on the stand. Not assuming that's going to happen, but an example of the extent of their appearances. They'll probably focus mainly on who was in Winter Soldier, along with Iron Man, Panther, and Zemo. Shouldn't be too crowded, I think, if done right.
Well, yes. I suspect there's still a fair amount of public distrust about S.H.I.E.L.D. since the reveal in The Winter Soldier, and the collateral damage in Age of Ultron and whatever the next incident is probably won't be stirring any goodwill about the Avengers. With a mixture of those two, I could see some groups pushing for a governing body that's not a part of either force, to serve as an outside and objective controller.
SHIELD also is not a government sanctioned organization, not anymore. And Agents of Shield has shown that even among the new shield, there is still fracturing and distrust.
Avengers was never SHIELD sanctioned. It was vetoed by the world security council and Nick Fury Sneakily got it together himself.
SHIELD was disbanded in Cap 2 and the Avengers work independently now out of Stark's building with his funding, and some level of co-operation from world governments.
The events of AoU could lead you to believe SHIELD is still up and running, but it's really only a small fraction of what it was, and still operates independently from any world government. The world security agency treated them as a terrorist organization until fairly recently.
SHIELD was disbanded in Cap 2 and the Avengers work independently now out of Stark's building with his funding, and some level of co-operation from world governments.
The events of AoU could lead you to believe SHIELD is still up and running, but it's really only a small fraction of what it was, and still operates independently from any world government. The world security agency treated them as a terrorist organization until fairly recently.
I'm pretty sure that's their lead in to Civil War. Like Nick said, I'm sure many of the heroes will be relegated to being soldiers on one side or the other and little more.