"Transformers 2" is a horrible experience of unbearable leng

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Grr.
What follows is the most spectacular part of the movie, as Sam and Mikaela try to run the several miles back to the military camp during a massive Decepticon attack where the military has dropped Optimus Prime's corpse.

Why is that awesome? They could drive back in one of the Autobots and be there in a minute or two.
They don't do that.

What?
They walk.

Of course they do. And I assume the Autobots just mysteriously disappear again until a second before a Decepticon is about to kill Sam.
Yes. Exactly.

Can you explain Megan Fox's appeal?
Yes. She looks like a porn star and has the same acting talent as one, yet for some reason she makes mainstream movies. This tonal disconnect is what's so appealing about her.
:rofl: :rofl:
So why the hell didn't they use the shard to bring Prime back to life? I thought the plot sucked but this review really laid it all out!
 
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Chazwozel

Can you explain Megan Fox's appeal?
Yes. She looks like a porn star and has the same acting talent as one, yet for some reason she makes mainstream movies. This tonal disconnect is what's so appealing about her.
:rofl:
 
Chazwozel said:
Can you explain Megan Fox's appeal?
Yes. She looks like a porn star and has the same acting talent as one, yet for some reason she makes mainstream movies. This tonal disconnect is what's so appealing about her.
:rofl:
I just love that. Maybe she will surprise us but so far anything I have seen her "acting" in just seemed to be missing the gangbang scene.
 
If you had to pick a single scene that exemplifies Michael Bay's utter disdain for story and continuity, what would it be?
When five Decepticons sink to the bottom of the ocean to retrieve Megatron's corpse. A submarine tracks five "subjects" going down, and when they get there, one of the Decepticons is killed to give parts to Megatron. 5 -1 +1 = 5, right? No, because the sub somehow tracks "six" subjects coming up. Not only is this very basic math, this is the simplest of script errors. It could not possibly have been more than one page apart in the script. And yet Michael Bay either didn't care to notice or didn't give a fuck. "Math? Math is for pussies. My movies are about shit blowing up, man."
My favorite part by far. I completely forgot about this bit of dumbfuckery. I've read people saying that the military is counting "The Doctor" as one of the "subjects" coming up. To them I say, "Fuck off, he's the size of a squirrel. He would either be sitting on one of the bots or he would be just dismissed as detritus."
 
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So anyway,

To anyone bitching about why Hollywood churns out garbage like Transformers2 and Meet the Spartans?


Here are the stats for Grindhouse on opening day. While Grindhouse is not exactly Oscar material, it is still a really, really well done homage to a specific era of film and action, in that regard Rodriguez and Terantino nail it home.

After the film was released on April 6, 2007, ticket sales performed significantly below box office analysts' expectations despite mostly positive critic reviews. In much of the rest of the world, each feature was released separately in extended versions. Two soundtracks were also released for the features and include music and audio snippets from the film. In several interviews, the directors have expressed their interest in a possible sequel to the film.
Grindhouse has been called a box office flop,[24] surprising box office analysts and fans alike given the strong reviews and favorable media buzz.[25] Costing $53 million to produce,[2][3] Grindhouse opened poorly with "a disappointing $11.5 million" in the United States,[24][26] making a per-theater average of $4,417; box office analysts originally predicted an opening weekend total of at least $20–$30 million.[27][28]
And here are the stats on Transformers 2:

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was widely panned by critics. Based on 182 reviews collected by Rotten Tomatoes, the film received an average 21% overall approval rating.[158] The film had a similar approval rating with the 32 critics in Rotten Tomatoes' "Top Critic", which consists of popular and notable critics from the top newspapers, websites, television and radio programs,[159] where it received a 19% approval rating.[160]
Revenge of the Fallen grossed $16 million on its midnight premiere, the most ever for a Wednesday midnight debut. The film proceeded to achieve the biggest Wednesday opening in history, bringing in approximately $60.6 million in total receipts on its first day, additionally ranking it as the second-biggest opening day of all-time behind The Dark Knight. The movie grossed $112 million on its first weekend, making it the biggest weekend gross of 2009 and the seventh-largest in history, and brought in $201.2 million in its first five days, putting it in second place behind the The Dark Knight's $203.7 million for all-time biggest five-day opening. The movie has made $387,346,000 Worldwide. [170]

I'm using Grindhouse as an example because it's a shut your brain off type action double feature. It's suppose to be a satire and there is some commentary but overall it's supposed to be fun. IT FLOPPED! Don't blame Hollywood for the stupidity of the common Joe that would rather go see garbage over quality film. I urge people to STOP going to bad movies and they'll for the most part be reduced!
 
All this "it grossed $whatever", "most ever for whenever" bragging is just that. Bragging. It's also misleading. Sure it's the most ever... since ticket prices have never been higher. That doesn't tell you how many people actually went to see this.

By butts in seats, this is a meh of a movie. It'll likely make the top 100, but probably not very high up.
 
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Steven Soderburgin

I was gone all weekend. Are people still actively defending this affront to cultural and cinematic literacy?
 

Kissinger, I've met in real life six or seven people who have seen this and said it's awesome.

:facepalm:
 

My daughter's boyfriend took her to see it yesterday. When they told me this I asked, "Why? Are you mad at her?"
 
I've had at least 10 customers come up to me in the last week as well Ed, saying the same. They ranged from the nearly poor idiotic low IQ reject to doctors and lawyers. :facepalm:
Edrondol said:
My daughter's boyfriend took her to see it yesterday. When they told me this I asked, "Why? Are you mad at her?"
You do realize Ed, if he comes back saying he enjoyed it: It's time to remove him from this mortal coil to prevent your daughter further possible infection.

To Chaz, it's a fucking crime that Planet Terror didn't make more than it did. I think however Grindhouse screwed itself over by making itself a 3+hr epic instead of releasing the films seperately.
 
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Steven Soderburgin

If I could have just one thing in this thread, I'd really like those who liked the movie to articulate why they liked it rather than make excuses for why they didn't dislike it.

EDIT: That is, I want people to identify the film's merits rather than forgiving its flaws because "it's a popcorn movie" or "i just wanted robots fighting" or whatever.
 
Kissinger said:
If I could have just one thing in this thread, I'd really like those who liked the movie to articulate why they liked it rather than make excuses for why they didn't dislike it.
Now that would be something.

:popcorn:
 

Shannow

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Kissinger said:
If I could have just one thing in this thread, I'd really like those who liked the movie to articulate why they liked it rather than make excuses for why they didn't dislike it.

EDIT: That is, I want people to identify the film's merits rather than forgiving its flaws because "it's a popcorn movie" or "i just wanted robots fighting" or whatever.

We have all been waiting for that.
 

ElJuski

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Shegokigo said:
I've had at least 10 customers come up to me in the last week as well Ed, saying the same. They ranged from the nearly poor idiotic low IQ reject to doctors and lawyers. :facepalm:
Edrondol said:
My daughter's boyfriend took her to see it yesterday. When they told me this I asked, "Why? Are you mad at her?"
You do realize Ed, if he comes back saying he enjoyed it: It's time to remove him from this mortal coil to prevent your daughter further possible infection.
Dave likes Fallout Boy. He's already been infected :(


Also, good call on the Grindhouse, Chaz.
 
I say we extend this thread's limit to 30 or 40 pages, as has been done in the game forum for threads of interest. It'd be interesting to get a mod I saw back in phpBB2 (may have been converted to 3) where at X pages, a thread would be autolocked, moved and a new thread with the same title, Part X+1 would appear in its place, with the last posts quoted on the first post.

Shegokigo said:
You do realize Ed, if he comes back saying he enjoyed it: It's time to remove him from this mortal coil to prevent your daughter further possible infection.

To Chaz, it's a fucking crime that Planet Terror didn't make more than it did. I think however Grindhouse screwed itself over by making itself a 3+hr epic instead of releasing the films seperately.
Sounds about right Ed. You might as well scissor him too, to prevent further taint to humanity's genetic memory.

And yeah, Grindhouse was a sad sad case of good movies getting screwed over. Noteworthy that they were released separately in Spain (and I do believe in most other countries other than the US?).
 
Many people HAVE said why the enjoyed the movie, you guys are just so set in your opinion being fact, you won't listen.
 
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Bowielee said:
Many people HAVE said why the enjoyed the movie, you guys are just so set in your opinion being fact, you won't listen.
I may have missed it, but if you are referring to posts in which people said things like "I was expecting robots fighting and that's what I got," that is not what I'm looking for.

EDIT: I did skip about seven pages of posts, so it might have happened in those posts, as well. I legitimately want someone to link me to those posts, quote them, or write a new post in which the actual merits of the movie are discussed.
 
As it has been said multiple times. The action sequences (in this ACTION movie) were great. Straight up, they were awsome. The film was never boring. I never found a point where the film was dragging at all. While there were a few groaners and lowbrow jokes, I laughed many times throughout the movie.

This is my opinion, and quite frankly, I'm tired of trying to defend an opinion to people who haven't even seen the movie.
 
I'm going to make a call here, and this is just my opinion, mind you, but I'll bet you most people would have loved this movie if it weren't for Mudflap and Skids
 
Bowielee said:
As it has been said multiple times. The action sequences (in this ACTION movie) were great. Straight up, they were awsome. The film was never boring. I never found a point where the film was dragging at all. While there were a few groaners and lowbrow jokes, I laughed many times throughout the movie.

This is my opinion, and quite frankly, I'm tired of trying to defend an opinion to people who haven't even seen the movie.
So basically what you're saying is: The boom was big in a boom boom movie so that makes it awesome! Nothignelse matters.
 
Shegokigo said:
Bowielee said:
As it has been said multiple times. The action sequences (in this ACTION movie) were great. Straight up, they were awsome. The film was never boring. I never found a point where the film was dragging at all. While there were a few groaners and lowbrow jokes, I laughed many times throughout the movie.

This is my opinion, and quite frankly, I'm tired of trying to defend an opinion to people who haven't even seen the movie.
So basically what you're saying is: The boom was big in a boom boom movie so that makes it awesome! Nothignelse matters.
:facepalm:

I give up. Keep you false feelings of superiority because you disliked a movie.
 
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Chazwozel

Bowielee said:
As it has been said multiple times. The action sequences (in this ACTION movie) were great. Straight up, they were awsome. The film was never boring. I never found a point where the film was dragging at all. While there were a few groaners and lowbrow jokes, I laughed many times throughout the movie.

This is my opinion, and quite frankly, I'm tired of trying to defend an opinion to people who haven't even seen the movie.
Thanks to folks like you we are officially on the way to having this be the future of cinema:
 
Bowielee said:
:facepalm:

I give up. Keep you false feelings of superiority because you disliked a movie.
Um, I was simplifying your statement. Unless I'm wrong and you talked about the award winning acting, or the nail biting twist and turn plot or perhaps the amazing camerawork?
 
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Chazwozel

Transformers 3: Rise of Ass

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04o2V2ah5dI:169t2dd8][/youtube:169t2dd8]

Except it's a Michael Bay film, so the ass would be farting flames and gunpower kegs.
 

ElJuski

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Here are my reasons for hating this movie:

-The bloated, convoluted mess of a plotline
-Bay creating a "Children's" movie consisting of testicle jokes, dogs humping and an apparent lack of understanding what a "pot brownie" does
-Inane, obnoxious human characters who fill no purpose but "comedy" or to further convolute a plot
-Apparently there is a Sphinx like structure in Jordan
-Using broad racial stereotypes as a substitute for well-written comedic relief
-The insane running time
-An almost satirical use of the bigger is better philosophy, from the number of machines with no names
-The worst case of deus ex machina I've seen in fucking forever
-A horrible retread of the MacGuffin which was horribly done in the first film /anyways/

Micheal Bay can make an explosion look nice, but the movie is a giant lumbering abortion of cinema craft; the script is a miserable, deformed monster that doesn't know which way it wants to go, and yet goes every way--the jokes fall flat, the characters are dragged along aimlessly under the thin veneer of a plot riddled with so many inconsistencies, flaws of logic, and outright leaps of faith that it feels like Bay actually thought his demographic wouldn't be smart enough to catch on, and instead be hypnotized by tangled, unwatchable mess of nifty computer graphics gone awry. The least that you could pull out from any of the action scenes are:

a. Is Shia there?
b. Is a robot shooting at Shia, or is the robot defending Shia?

Which is about as much time as you have until another flash of color or an explosion draws you away from that. Bay touted the intensity of computer power needed to heft this film (blah blah the computer that blew up trying to render this baby), and it seems more of a testament that somebody COULD do it, instead of doing it right.

All in all, this film, from inception to reception, has been all about excuses, instead of merits.
 
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