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The Lone Ranger

Dec 11, 2012#1

evilmike

The Lone Ranger Official Trailer #2

Dec 11, 2012#2

sixpackshaker

OK, at least the Lone Ranger is going to be dangerous in this version... but it looks like he'll be a killer though. Of course 50's morality is a little bit long gone.

Dec 11, 2012#3

Bowielee

It would be nice to see Johnny Depp work with more than 2 directors

Dec 11, 2012#4

drawn_inward

Bowielee said:
It would be nice to see Johnny Depp work with more than Helena Bonham Carter

Dec 11, 2012#5

Ravenpoe

So, the lone ranger's partner is Jack Sparrow disguised as an Indian?

Dec 11, 2012#6

sixpackshaker

I still love that Depp did not notice that the crow was behind the subject, not on his head.

Dec 11, 2012#7

ThatNickGuy

Eh, I'm getting some Wild Wild West vibes from this. Definitely not a good sign.

Also, if the movie is called The Lone Ranger, why does Tonto's actor get top billing?

Dec 11, 2012#8

sixpackshaker

ThatNickGuy said:
... why does Tonto's actor get top billing?

Because have you heard of Armie Hammer?

Dec 11, 2012#9

ThatNickGuy

Of course I have. I use Arnie Hammer to clean everything.

Wait...

Dec 11, 2012#10

Yoshimickster

Jerry: Hey Johnny, casting said your audition was great so your on for Tonto.

Johnny: Good, now about my terms...

Jerry: Hey buddy if you want some more zeros to your check thats fine with-

Johnny: No not that, how much face-paint or make-up will I be wearing?

Jerry: ....what?

Johnny: Because I won't do it unless I'm at least wearing eye-liner that would look gay on anyone else but me.

Jerry: Does it really matter?

Johnny: YOU BET YOUR ASS IT MATTERS! You think I'd star in a piece of shit like "Alice and Wonderland" or "At World's End" if it wasn't for the crazy make-up they let me wear? MY FACE MUST LOOK WEIRD!

Jerry: All-right christ, you can have as much make-up as you want!

Johnny: Good and make sure they dunk my face with white paint, I gotta reputation to make.

Jerry: Man, the shit me and Tim deal with.

Dec 11, 2012#11

Covar

Don't know about this movie, but I like the production team. I also can't help but think that they would do a phenomenal job making a movie about the Lone Ranger's great-nephew.

Britt Reid. The Green Hornet

Dec 11, 2012#12

Yoshimickster

Does that count as a spoiler? That's been public knowledge for years.

Also does "That's" count as a contraction for "That has", or is it one of those things only said in conversation? I'm only asking on a forum topic about the Lone Ranger because its 11:55, I'm caught up on my home-work, I'm drunk, and I FEEL GOOD!

Dec 11, 2012#13

Just Me

Yoshimickster said:
Does that count as a spoiler? That's been public knowledge for years.

Also does "That's" count as a contraction for "That has", or is it one of those things only said in conversation? I'm only asking on a forum topic about the Lone Ranger because its 11:55, I'm caught up on my home-work, I'm drunk, and I FEEL GOOD!

I didn't know that stuff but then I'm not into comics or superhero stuff *hangs his geek card in shame*

And I totally don't have a problem with spoilers, so I'm just here to wish you the best with your homework and a good time!

Dec 12, 2012#14

Hailey Knight

sixpackshaker said:
I still love that Depp did not notice that the crow was behind the subject, not on his head.

Did Depp design his costume?

Dec 13, 2012#15

sixpackshaker

Quotemander Prime said:
Did Depp design his costume?

He picked that painting to base the costume on, I don't know if he actually sews or not...

Dec 13, 2012#16

Hailey Knight

sixpackshaker said:
He picked that painting to base the costume on, I don't know if he actually sews or not...

Well, then that was dumb.

Dec 13, 2012#17

phil

He's an actor, not a tailor.

Dec 13, 2012#18

Ravenpoe

phil said:
Damnit Jim, he's an actor, not a tailor.

FTFY

Dec 13, 2012#19

Yoshimickster

Maybe he's payed in face-paint, I could totally buy that.

Dec 15, 2012#20

Cajungal

Wait a minute. You're telling me that Helena Bonham Carter is playing a woman with a pale face and wild hair? What a stretch.

Seriously, though, it doesn't look extremely terrible, but I'm just not interested.

Feb 3, 2013#21

evilmike

The Superbowl commercial

Feb 3, 2013#22

strawman

I love that they're embracing the campiness of the original series, rather than trying to reinvent it as a serious work.

Jun 27, 2013#23

sixpackshaker

OK I'll Tonto a pass on the costume now.

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwo...-indians-did-wear-birds-on-their-heads-111149

Jun 27, 2013#24

Ravenpoe

sixpackshaker said:
OK I'll Tonto a pass on the costume now.

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwo...-indians-did-wear-birds-on-their-heads-111149

That bird looks high as fuck.

Jun 27, 2013#25

sixpackshaker

ThatNickGuy said:
Of course I have. I use Arnie Hammer to clean everything.

Wait...

He is related to that Armie Hammer too.

Jun 27, 2013#26

Charlie Don't Surf

Obligatory reminder that this is racist

Jun 27, 2013#27

CrimsonSoul

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Obligatory reminder that this is racist

Does it count as racist if I'm part Native American and don't really care?

Jun 27, 2013#28

Dave

They couldn't find a real Native American actor? He says he's like 1/64 Indian, but that's a real damned stretch.

Jun 27, 2013#29

Shakey

CrimsonSoul said:
Does it count as racist if I'm part Native American and don't really care?

No. Tonto has always been a pretty racist depiction of Native Americans. We'll see what Depp and the writers do with it, but it's a tough role to turn around.[DOUBLEPOST=1372393296][/DOUBLEPOST]

Dave said:
They couldn't find a real Native American actor? He says he's like 1/64 Indian, but that's a real damned stretch.

That's what bugs me about him doing this. It looks like he's trying to be funny and do an over the top interpretation of it, but I don't think it will have the right effect.

Jun 28, 2013#30

Bowielee

Ah, our good friend whitewashing in Hollywood.

As for the bird on the head thing, it was very common for shaman in Native American culture to wear talismans of transformation. It was commonly believed that by dressing as certain animals, one could channel their power.

Jun 28, 2013#31

Bellygrub

Depp puts asses in the seats. There are at least ten women in my office who are going to see this movie strictly for that reason. I can see why they chose to go with him.

Jun 28, 2013#32

sixpackshaker

I hope Bjork wears her swan dress to the premiere.

Jun 28, 2013#33

GasBandit

I probably wouldn't bother with this movie if Depp wasn't in it.

Jun 28, 2013#34

sixpackshaker

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Obligatory reminder that this is racist

I always have a hard time with positive portrayals being racist.

Jun 28, 2013#35

DarkAudit

sixpackshaker said:
I always have a hard time with positive portrayals being racist.

Charlie has spoken. Therefore it is racist. :rolleyes:

Jun 28, 2013#36

Ravenpoe

sixpackshaker said:
I always have a hard time with positive portrayals being racist.

I don't know if I'd really call it positive, it's just Johnny Depp playing Johnny Depp with a bird on his head.

Jun 28, 2013#37

Shakey

fade said:
"Native americans are dumb, therefore Tonto is dumb" is racist.

I wonder what Tonto means in Spanish.

I don't know that it was ever intentional, but I thought the fact that you mentioned that was kinda funny. I will admit it's more of a stereotype, and one many people do find negative. I'm sure it's something the writers were aware of, and Depp has said he's tried to turn around in his portrayal of him, so I doubt it will be an issue.

Jun 28, 2013#38

GasBandit

sixpackshaker said:
I always have a hard time with positive portrayals being racist.

Well, the portrayal of Asians being good at math is racist, even if it is positive...

yecch...

Jun 28, 2013#39

sixpackshaker

GasBandit said:
Well, the portrayal of Asians being good at math is racist, even if it is positive...

yecch...

But this is America, being good at math is not considered a good thing.

Jun 28, 2013#40

GasBandit

sixpackshaker said:
But this is America, being good at math is not considered a good thing.

Ok, how about the stereotype about black men having large penises?

Jun 28, 2013#41

fade

Shakey said:
I wonder what Tonto means in Spanish.

I don't know that it was ever intentional, but I thought the fact that you mentioned that was kinda funny. I will admit it's more of a stereotype, and one many people do find negative. I'm sure it's something the writers were aware of, and Depp has said he's tried to turn around in his portrayal of him, so I doubt it will be an issue.

Yeah I deleted my post because I didn't feel like arguing this afternoon. I figured it'd blow up.

Jun 29, 2013#42

Frank

sixpackshaker said:
I always have a hard time with positive portrayals being racist.

Yeah, maybe they could have gotten an actual native to play the character then. I'm more Indian than Johnny Depp is (and I'm a dirty blonde norse looking mother fucker).

Jun 30, 2013#43

PatrThom

Shakey said:
I wonder what Tonto means in Spanish.

I was always under the impression that it was deliberate, that Tonto's image was crafted such that the Bad Guys would automatically underestimate him.

Frank said:
I'm more Indian than Johnny Depp is.

His comic timing is better.

--Patrick

Jul 1, 2013#44

sixpackshaker

Tonto was supposed to be Pottawatomie and Tonto in their language meant wild one. Also, what is a Michigan Indian doing in West Texas?

Jul 1, 2013#45

fade

Isn't it amazing how the English countryside in no way looks like southern California?

Jul 2, 2013#46

filmfanatic

Listen, everyone. I just saw The Lone Ranger.
DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE.
It is bloated, cliched, astoundingly stupid and, most of all, utterly disrespectful to the source material. It almost feels like they want to apologize so much to Native Americans that they made their hero utterly unlikable

and indirectly responsible for the death of a Comanche tribe

.
I repeat, DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE.

Jul 2, 2013#47

Gared

filmfanatic said:
Listen, everyone. I just saw The Lone Ranger.
DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE.
It is bloated, cliched, astoundingly stupid and, most of all, utterly disrespectful to the source material. It almost feels like they want to apologize so much to Native Americans that they made their hero utterly unlikable
I repeat, DO NOT SEE THIS MOVIE.

Yeah... I'd heard earlier today that it was a horrible movie. In fact, I'd heard that by the time the famous theme song finally shows up, the movie has sucked so badly that even it can't get you excited about the upcoming scene.

Jul 3, 2013#48

strawman

filmfanatic said:
utterly disrespectful to the source material

Well then, guess I'm crossing this one off the list.

Jul 3, 2013#49

Covar

filmfanatic said:
utterly disrespectful to the source material.

I had a hunch about that when the trailers had him a) out of a mask after he becomes the Lone Ranger and b) using contractions.

Jul 3, 2013#50

strawman

Don't get me wrong, the original show was terrible, but its was western fun for kids who liked playing cowboys and indians so it didn't have a high bar to reach for success.

They obviously tried to reinvent it, but it really sounds like they took a wrong turn somewhere. It needed to be reinvented, but probably not into this.

Jul 3, 2013#51

Frank

The funny thing about the original show? It had an actual native playing Tonto, something almost unheard of in most westerns. Jay Silverheels was a Mohawk from Ontario.

Jul 12, 2013#52

Frank

So, how was Lone Ranger everyone? What, none of you saw it? Well, according to the weekend box office, very few of you did.

It did worse than John Carter did it's opening weekend. That's a trrrrrible sign.

Jul 12, 2013#53

Ravenpoe

Frank said:
So, how was Lone Ranger everyone? What, none of you saw it? Well, according to the weekend box office, very few of you did.

It did worse than John Carter did it's opening weekend. That's a trrrrrible sign.

Why didn't they just call it Tonto?

Jul 12, 2013#54

Dave

My sister saw it and said it was bad and SHOULD hade been just called Tonto.

Jul 12, 2013#55

sixpackshaker

At least this does not sound as bad as the last Lone Ranger movie.

Jul 12, 2013#56

klew

Ravenpoe said:
Why didn't they just call it Tonto?

Same reason they called it Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?

Jul 12, 2013#57

Bowielee

I never had an inclination to see it in the first place. I love Johnny Depp, but I don't BLINDLY love his work. This whole thing was destined to be a trainwreck from the start.

Jul 14, 2013#58

PatrThom

sixpackshaker said:
At least this does not sound as bad as the last Lone Ranger movie.

The last of these movies I watched was The Legend of the Lone Ranger. (trailer) Even as a teen, I thought it was dumb.
When a male teenager thinks a movie about cowboys and indians with guns and explosions is dumb, that's how you know it's dumb.

--Patrick

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