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Jun 28, 2012#1

evilmike

After being rumored for some time, it's apparently official: Guardians of the Galaxy is scheduled for a 2014 release. (via Latino Review)

Jun 28, 2012#2

ThatNickGuy

I AM GROOT!

Jun 28, 2012#3

Tress

Here's how I see this playing out:

Worst case scenario - This movie will be shit. It will fail spectacularly.

Best case scenario - The movie might be made well, but no one is interested. The property is just too "out there" for most of the audience, and it flops. Maybe, just maybe, it recoups losses in DVD sales with a strong comic-fan backing.

My money is on the worst case scenario, but I would be happy to be wrong on this one.

Jun 29, 2012#4

Bowielee

I wonder what sort of Roster they're going to go with.

That name has belonged to a few versions of groups. I'm thinking they'll probably stay away from the original group (seeing as most of them are pretty much ridiculous).

Jun 29, 2012#5

Frank

Probably close to the Avengers cartoon lineup I'd take a guess on.

As long as Rocket Raccoon is there. If he isn't, well, there's no fucking point is there?

Jun 29, 2012#6

ThatNickGuy

Rocket Raccoon and Groot. Always with Groot.

Jun 29, 2012#7

ScytheRexx

When you think about it, it does fit with the direction they are going for the movies now. In the movies before, it never really involved space, mostly keeping to Earth (Thor you could say skirted the line, like it always has, with it's persuado sci-fi). Yet now, after the Avengers, we are going to obviously have more galactic ties, and Guardians of the Galaxy will give them a chance to keep that part of the universe fresh in peoples minds, maybe even help establish "you know who" leading into the next Avengers movie. They can't do it with the X-Men or FF, so they had to do it with someone.

Though I still wait for the day they make a Heroes for Hire movie. So much potential.

Jun 29, 2012#8

sixpackshaker

Frank said:
Probably close to the Avengers cartoon lineup I'd take a guess on.

As long as Rocket Raccoon is there. If he isn't, well, there's no fucking point is there?

What the heck are they standing on?

Jul 16, 2012#9

evilmike

The concept art shown at Comic-Con

Jul 16, 2012#10

Frank

I still like Adam Warlock and Quasar better.

Jul 16, 2012#11

ThatNickGuy

I still have only one thing to say:

I AM GROOT!

Jul 16, 2012#12

sixpackshaker

another fuckin' furry.

Jul 16, 2012#13

ThatNickGuy

Dude, that furry will shoot off your gonads with the largest gun it can find.

Also, anthropomorphic =/= furry.

Jul 16, 2012#14

sixpackshaker

ThatNickGuy said:
Dude, that furry will shoot off your gonads with the largest gun it can find.

Also, anthropomorphic =/= furry.

It's a gateway fetish.

Jul 16, 2012#15

AshburnerX

I dunno... Rocket Raccoon was kinda bad ass in Marvel Vs. Capcom 3.

Jul 21, 2012#16

Frank

So, I'm constantly being told Cosmic Marvel of the Civil War and beyond era is far better than the more terrestrially bound stuff. Can any of you give me some recommendations of trades that are good places to read the good stuff (other than Annihilation itself, that's a given).

Jul 21, 2012#17

Bowielee

Pretty much if Thanos or Adam Warlock are on the cover. It's usually a good bet to be good. (Infinity Crusade aside). Unfortunately, I focused more on the earthly books after Civil War, and I haven't read ANYTHING beyond Seige.

Jul 21, 2012#18

ThatNickGuy

Frank said:
So, I'm constantly being told Cosmic Marvel of the Civil War and beyond era is far better than the more terrestrially bound stuff. Can any of you give me some recommendations of trades that are good places to read the good stuff (other than Annihilation itself, that's a given).

Nova starts after Annihilation, and it's a great read. Guardians of the Galaxy begins after Annihilation: Conquest. To be honest, it gets rather confusing after that, with the War of Kings event.

The trades up until then are great because the Annihilation volumes #1-3 cover everything you need. Ditto for Conquest.

Also, Civil War sucks.

Jul 21, 2012#19

Bowielee

Civil war had a few mis-steps but overall was a good read.

Jul 21, 2012#20

Covar

Civil War was Marvel burning the barn down to have one hell of a party. Afterwards they pretended the barn was still up, with every post civil-war reference to registration going down as follows:

~~Hitler/~~Iron man: "This big threat is hear and we need the help of you heroes that aren't registered, I know I'm supposed to arrest you but if you help I'll let it slide while we take care of it."
Unregistered hero: "Ok, I'll do it, since I'm clearly morally right"
~~Bush/~~Iron man: "Ok now it's done, time to arrest all of you! Drats! they got away, NEXT TIME YOU'LL BE IN JAIL"

Not to mention you have the "fair and balanced view of both sides," Until Marvel realized that sane people were actually agreeing with pro-registration, so quick! Swerve to make Tony comparable to Hitler!

The worst offense? Like every other Marvel event since with the exception of Siege, Only 3 issues worth of story decompressed into 7 issues. And they still couldn't write a decent ending for it.

Jul 21, 2012#21

AshburnerX

No, the worst thing about Civil War is that it is what necessitated (or gave an excuse for) One More Day. Decades of Spider-man, down the drain because the guy in charge wanted him like he was as a kid.

Jul 21, 2012#22

ThatNickGuy

Not to mention the fact that, despite what the writers and editors said, you can't just read Civil #1-7 on its own without needing to read the other titles to get the full story.

Jul 21, 2012#23

Frank

That is always my biggest issue with these events and why I've stopped buying mainstream comics in general. The main story doesn't make a lot of sense without the inbetween stuff in other books.

Jul 22, 2012#24

Hailey Knight

Was it that way with Crisis on Infinite Earths or could you just read those 12 issues and get the whole thing?

Jul 22, 2012#25

ThatNickGuy

Quotemander Prime said:
Was it that way with Crisis on Infinite Earths or could you just read those 12 issues and get the whole thing?

Having only read the original 12-issue series, I'd say it reads well on its own. There were tie-in issues, of course, but from what I understand, they weren't needed.

Jul 23, 2012#26

Bowielee

When the big cross-overs started (Crisis on Infinite Earths/ Secret Wars) They were almost entirely self contained. As comic companies learned that they would make more money by making other books essential, most modern cross-overs are totally not understandable without the tie in books.

Jul 23, 2012#27

ThatNickGuy

Agreed. Even most of DC's annual summer events during the 90's were mostly self-contained. I still enjoy many of them: Zero Hour, Underworld Unleashed, Final Night. Some were total crap, like Genesis and Day of Judgement.

Jul 23, 2012#28

Frank

Bowielee said:
When the big cross-overs started (Crisis on Infinite Earths/ Secret Wars) They were almost entirely self contained. As comic companies learned that they would make more money by making other books essential, most modern cross-overs are totally not understandable without the tie in books.

Yeah, and that was incredibly short-sighted seeing as how dead the comic book part of the comic book industry has become.

Jul 23, 2012#29

Covar

Comic sales this year are up 14% over last year. AvX (crap that it is) sells gangbusters for Marvel.

In related news PC gaming is dead!

Aug 6, 2012#30

Steve

http://ifanboy.com/articles/marvel-...movie-rights-to-fox-in-exchange-for-galactus/

Interesting. Fox's rights to Daredevil run out in October unless they have a movie. They are in negotiations with Marvel to retain the rights to the property. In exchange Marvel wants Galactus and Silver Surfer. It would make sense. Could see this tie into the Guardians of the Galaxy in some way. And I doubt Fox will ever use Galactus again. If they keep The Fantastic Four there are more than enough villains to fill several movies. I would love to see Marvel handle Galactus and Surfer.

Aug 7, 2012#31

Frank

That would....rule?

Actually, sounds good to me. Doug Jones as Silver Surfer was about the only thing that movie did right.

Aug 7, 2012#32

AshburnerX

I would have traded for the mutual ownership of the concept of "mutants", so they would have more options for movies.

Aug 7, 2012#33

ThatNickGuy

Frank said:
That would....rule?

Actually, sounds good to me. Doug Jones as Silver Surfer was about the only thing that movie did right.

And Michael Chiklis as The Thing again. That was just the perfect casting.

Feb 5, 2013#34

evilmike

They have cast Star Lord -- Chris Pratt from Zero Dark Thirty and Parks and Recreation. (via First Showing)

Feb 5, 2013#35

Reverent-one

evilmike said:
They have cast Star Lord -- Chris Pratt from Zero Dark Thirty and Parks and Recreation. (via First Showing)

Hrm, that is not one of those casting choices that is an obvious fit. I've only seen him as a boisterous, jock type character, which is not a good fit for Starlord. Still, maybe that's just the type of role he's played thus far and he'll do fine.

Feb 15, 2013#36

evilmike

Latino Review is reporting that a casting deal is being finalized for Jason Mamoa (Game of Thrones, Stargate Atlantis, Conan the Barbarian) to play Drax the Destroyer.

Feb 15, 2013#37

Frank

That's good casting.

Mar 15, 2013#38

evilmike

It looks like the deal with Jason Mamoa has fallen through.

Mixed martial artist and WWE wrestler Dave Bautista has closed his deal to play Drax the Destroyer

Mar 15, 2013#39

Frank

That's actually alright if Drax doesn't talk much.

Mar 15, 2013#40

ThatNickGuy

Drax' character has never been a talker, so this works.

Mar 15, 2013#41

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:
Drax' character has never been a talker, so this works.

but what if he did?! :sohappy:

Mar 15, 2013#42

Frank

Oh wow, I did not watch wrestling during that period. Batista was kind of rad when he wasn't D-Von's sidekick (yeah, it's been that long).

Mar 22, 2013#43

IronBrig4

I like how they're bringing another team into the Avengers franchise.

But what I REALLY want to see leading to the third Avengers movie is Heroes for Hire. Just a cameo to introduce them first. Let's say the next invasion force lands in New York (Kree, Skrulls, what have you). A small group of them move to a run-down building and kick in the door. Cue some Bruce Lee screams and someone else shouting "Sweet Christmas!", and then the invaders are thrown right through the wall. As the dust clears, you see Iron Fist and Luke Cage cracking their knuckles.

Seeing the New Warriors would also be cool, especially since Nova is one of my favorites.

Mar 22, 2013#44

AshburnerX

I wouldn't mind see that Runaways movie that is supposed to be in production, but I haven't heard anything about it in over a year. I know they already did some casting.

Mar 22, 2013#45

Tress

Yes, let's fill the movie with dozens of different comic book characters and storylines. That's what makes the comics themselves so accessible.

Mar 22, 2013#46

AshburnerX

Tress said:
Yes, let's fill the movie with dozens of different comic book characters and storylines. That's what makes the comics themselves so accessible.

I'd be willing to bet that accessibility wouldn't be an issue if you could still buy a damn comic book at the supermarket. You wanna know why Archie comics is still around, despite doing the exact same shit for the past 60 some years? It's because you still buy an Archie comic without going to seedy little store in a strip mall.

Mar 22, 2013#47

IronBrig4

If you read the old Marvel issues from the 60s, superheroes always had brief cameos in other series. I'm reading the old Daredevil comics right now, and one issue involves the Fantastic Four hiring Nelson & Murdock for legal services regarding a deed. In the first Spider-Man issues with the Sinister Six, the X-Men, Fantastic Four, and Avengers all have cameos. Some are just one panel.

And in the Avengers cartoon, one of the best scenes is where Tony Stark visits the Daily Bugle offices and argues with J. Jonah Jameson. "Unless you want tomorrow's headline to read "Captain America: Benedict Arnold" this interview happens today! PARKER!!!"

So in one of the Marvel movies, I'd love to see a brief scene at the Daily Bugle offices with Jameson.

"You want a warning printed in the Bugle? We've already got our hands full with that red and blue menace. Well, what have you got? Thanos? Why would any mother name their kid that? He looks like he's got a prune for a face! Oh, he's here to destroy Earth? We can give you half of page 10, same price. Robbie, we've got a scoop! Get an extra printing for this evening. Miss Brant, find Parker and tell him to get some shots of Prune-Face when he's not busy tracking that wall-crawler. Well, what are you waiting for? I don't pay you to stand there gawking!"

Mar 22, 2013#48

Frank

Man, reading some of the new GotG and watching the Game of Thrones Blurays, I'm definitely back in the camp that Jason Mamoa would have been a much better Drax.

Mar 22, 2013#49

AshburnerX

IronBrig4 said:
So in one of the Marvel movies, I'd love to see a brief scene at the Daily Bugle offices with Jameson.

Never happen. Sony Pictures still has the rights to Spider-man and are content to make shitty movie after shitty movie every few years to keep it. It's going to be a long time before Disney has all the Marvel movie rights back under one house.

Mar 23, 2013#50

klew

It doesn't seem like a bad idea to make films of other Marvel titles, like Runaways, that live in the Marvel universe, but don't have to interact with the Avengers cast. This way, fans can see other titles and newcomers to the Avengers world won't have to watch (or know the backstory) of 10+ films.

Mar 23, 2013#51

Bowielee

AshburnerX said:
Never happen. Sony Pictures still has the rights to Spider-man and are content to make shitty movie after shitty movie every few years to keep it. It's going to be a long time before Disney has all the Marvel movie rights back under one house.

Same with X-men. Those deals with Sony were struck before Marvel had its own studio (and is one of the major reasons Marvel HAS a studio now), and with super-heroes being as popular as they are now, there's no way Sony is going to let those liscences lapse. That's the main reason we had both X-men First Class and that horrible Spider-man movie recently.

Speaking of which, have people come to realize how bad that movie is yet?

Mar 23, 2013#52

Frank

Just Charlie left defending it. I feel good having hated it out of the gate. That crane scene might be the worst thing ever in any comic book movies.

Though Emma Stone is much better than Kirsten Dunst.

Garfield I think is better than Tobey MacGuire in Spider-Man 3.

Mar 23, 2013#53

Tress

I did like First Class, though. I thought it was pretty well done.

Mar 23, 2013#54

Bowielee

Tress said:
I did like First Class, though. I thought it was pretty well done.

So did I. I'm actually looking forward to both Wolverine and X-men Days of Future Past.

Mar 23, 2013#55

Covar

Bowielee said:
Same with X-men. Those deals with Sony were struck before Marvel had its own studio (and is one of the major reasons Marvel HAS a studio now), and with super-heroes being as popular as they are now, there's no way Sony is going to let those liscences lapse. That's the main reason we had both X-men First Class and that horrible Spider-man movie recently.

Speaking of which, have people come to realize how bad that movie is yet?

Still better than the Rami films.

For the man resonsible for the Evil Dead Trilogy, Hercules, and Xena, those movies were sure missing a whole lot of fun.

Mar 23, 2013#56

Shawn

Bowielee said:
Same with X-men. Those deals with Sony were struck before Marvel had its own studio (and is one of the major reasons Marvel HAS a studio now), and with super-heroes being as popular as they are now, there's no way Sony is going to let those liscences lapse. That's the main reason we had both X-men First Class and that horrible Spider-man movie recently.

Speaking of which, have people come to realize how bad that movie is yet?

I haven't seen it recently, but I remember liking it okay. What was wrong with The Amazing Spider-Man?

Mar 23, 2013#57

Bowielee

The first 2 Rami films were way better than Amazing Spider-Man. Even if it did focus on the whiney side of Peter, at least he wasn't a full on douchebag.

Mar 23, 2013#58

Shawn

First Raimi was passable for me. 2nd gets major points because of how sympathetic Doc Oc was and especially Alfred Molina pulling it off. 3rd one... well... Less said the better.

But I didn't really think Peter Parker was too much of a douchebag in Amazing. I don't recall any particular douchey moments. Perhaps if you reminded me of the ones you thought were at the top of the list?

Mar 23, 2013#59

Bowielee

Shawnacy said:
I haven't seen it recently, but I remember liking it okay. What was wrong with The Amazing Spider-Man?

Peter was the opposite of heroic. The ONLY thing that he did that wasn't directly to benefit himself was to save that kid in the car, and even then he left a bunch more people in danger. He literally got a minority honor student kicked out of Ozcorp by stealing his ID, ruining that kid's possible placement in the intern program there... that's SUPER heroic. Even the muggers he stopped were only in search of Ben's killer.

He focused more on vengence then on doing the right thing.

Dr. Conors was pretty much a mustache twirling snidely whiplash character. That would have been fine for the Vulture or someone, but Doc Connors is a great tortured and morally complex villain that was reduced to a cliche.

The entire plan to turn everyone into lizard people was just plain stupid.

So many plot holes, you could drive a mack truck through them.

Aunt May may as well have not even existed.

The ONLY thing I liked was Emma Stone and Dennis Leary as the Staceys.

The movie suffered from trying to be like the Dark Knight itis.

The only reason fans of the comics loved it is because the organic web shooters were gone, and he cracked a few jokes.

Spider-Man 2 is still my third favorite super-hero movie, after Superman 2 and The Dark Knight.

Mar 23, 2013#60

Shawn

Bowielee said:
Peter was the opposite of heroic. The ONLY thing that he did that wasn't directly to benefit himself was to save that kid in the car, and even then he left a bunch more people in danger. He literally got a minority honor student kicked out of Ozcorp by stealing his ID, ruining that kid's possible placement in the intern program there... that's SUPER heroic. Even the muggers he stopped were only in search of Ben's killer.

He focused more on vengence then on doing the right thing.

Dr. Conors was pretty much a mustache twirling snidely whiplash character. That would have been fine for the Vulture or someone, but Doc Connors is a great tortured and morally complex villain that was reduced to a cliche.

The entire plan to turn everyone into lizard people was just plain stupid.

So many plot holes, you could drive a mack truck through them.

Aunt May may as well have not even existed.

The ONLY thing I liked was Emma Stone and Dennis Leary as the Staceys.

The movie suffered from trying to be like the Dark Knight itis.

The only fans of the comics loved it is because the organic web shooters were gone, and he cracked a few jokes.

Totally fair. Probably not what the writer/director had in mind when trying to portray the character, but that's how he was clearly seen from many viewpoints. I didn't quite notice these aspects of his character. I saw him doing what a normal person would likely do if given extraordinary powers. I was very happy that they included the fact that he's intellectual. And yeah, he screwed over a guy's internship. But when Ferris Bueller does something similar we laugh and cheer. When Marty McFly screws over time itself to give his family a make-over we mental five him.
Just depends on your point of view.

I agree that Conners wasn't very sympathetic. I also wasn't very fond of the final Lizard form. And near the end of the film they completely threw away the opportunity for Spidey to be battling several dozen lizard monsters in an epic slug fest.
Thank goodness the new ones were polite enough to wait around until everything was resolved.

I like mack trucks.

Loved Emma Stone and Dennis Leary. What a great role for Leary. His death was a little cliche, but meh. As you pointed out, so was the villain.

I don't know if I would liken it to Dark Knight. I think it was trying to be more on par with the recent Avengers line of Marvel films.

Mar 23, 2013#61

Bowielee

Ferris Bueller is a sociopath.

Mar 23, 2013#62

Shawn

Bowielee said:
Ferris Bueller is a sociopath.

Most of them are.
Most of them are.

Mar 23, 2013#63

Bowielee

http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/5911/ferris-bueller-and-ed-rooney-misunderstood/

I mean that literally... from a psychological diagnosis standpoint. He's a horrible, horrible person.

Mar 23, 2013#64

Shawn

I'm just saying that very few of our movie icons were ever squeaky clean.

Mar 23, 2013#65

Bowielee

Basically, American Psycho is Ferris Bueller's Day Off 2

Mar 23, 2013#66

Shawn

And Indiana Jones destroys priceless temples to gain a single treasure.

Point is it's no fun watching Jones study and log ancient architecture for two hours.

Mar 23, 2013#67

sixpackshaker

Bowielee said:
Ferris Bueller is a sociopath.

Cameron was delusional and Ferris did not exist.

Mar 23, 2013#68

Reverent-one

Bowielee said:
Peter was the opposite of heroic. The ONLY thing that he did that wasn't directly to benefit himself was to save that kid in the car, and even then he left a bunch more people in danger. He literally got a minority honor student kicked out of Ozcorp by stealing his
ID, ruining that kid's possible placement in the intern program there... that's SUPER heroic.

You mean like letting a mugger go with a bunch of money that he could easily stop? That's not unusual for Pre-Spider-man Peter.

Even the muggers he stopped were only in search of Ben's killer.

You mean like he originally did in the Rami movies? The difference being that in the first Rami movie, he knew who he was going after and didn't have to go searching for him.

The only reason fans of the comics loved it is because the organic web shooters were gone, and he cracked a few jokes.

Nah, the organic web shooters were never a big deal to me. The fact that Peter had a sense of humor was a nice touch certainly, but Garfield was a better Parker in general beyond that, and as mentioned, other casting choices such as Emma Stone and Dennis Leary were also well done.

Mar 23, 2013#69

Ravenpoe

Bowielee said:
Ferris Bueller is a sociopath.

Ferris Bueller is a figment of Cameron's imagination.

Mar 23, 2013#70

Tress

Ravenpoe said:
Ferris Bueller is a figment of Cameron's imagination.

sixpack beat you to it.

Mar 23, 2013#71

ScytheRexx

My wife and I recently saw the new Spider-Man, and while I liked it on the level of the first one, she loved it compared to the other trilogy. She usually hates it when I take her to see super hero movies, but she really liked the new Spider-Man.

Mar 24, 2013#72

ThatNickGuy

Personally, I don't think the Raimi movies are aging well. It's been awhile since I've seen them, though.

I liked Amazing Spider-Man.

Mar 24, 2013#73

Bowielee

OK, so for all you who loved the movie. Explain to me exactly how the Lizard using a device to turn the people of New York into lizard people helps him in any way. Particularly when it's already been shown that the syrum wears off (the guards that he lizard bombed just went back to normal after a while). What was the point? At least Doc Ock, hell even Green Goblin, Venom and Sandman had clear motivations.

Mar 24, 2013#74

Shawn

Conners/Lizard felt that he was the the next step of evolution for humanity, and his plan was to set that step into motion (You know. Classic villain stuff). If I remember correctly wasn't the serum perfected to be permanent, but they instead swapped it out for antidote at the last second?

Mar 24, 2013#75

Reverent-one

Well, you see...

Shawnacy said:
Conners/Lizard felt that he was the the next step of evolution for humanity, and his plan was to set that step into motion (You know. Classic villain stuff). If I remember correctly wasn't the serum perfected to be permanent, but they instead swapped it out for antidote at the last second?

Actually, that about covers it. Gwen replaced the serum in the airborne dispersal machine with the antidote, curing anyone the Lizard had infected along the way.

Mar 24, 2013#76

Bowielee

I don't recall him perfecting it. Either way, it's still just beyond stupid. It seriously would have helped if they had done any character development of any of the characters outside Gwen and Peter.

Mar 24, 2013#77

Shawn

Regardless, I enjoyed it enough to check out the second one. Especially with Paul Giamatti cast as The Rhino. I can't wait to see what kind of contraption they have him in.

Mar 24, 2013#78

IronBrig4

I still liked Amazing Spider-Man better than the Tobey Maguire trilogy. Less US flag waving and more wisecracking, just like Spider-Man is supposed to be. Gwen was also not nearly as much of a damsel in distress as Mary Jane was.

Mar 24, 2013#79

ScytheRexx

Bowielee said:
OK, so for all you who loved the movie. Explain to me exactly how the Lizard using a device to turn the people of New York into lizard people helps him in any way. Particularly when it's already been shown that the syrum wears off (the guards that he lizard bombed just went back to normal after a while). What was the point? At least Doc Ock, hell even Green Goblin, Venom and Sandman had clear motivations.

Dr. Conors was pretty much a mustache twirling snidely whiplash character. That would have been fine for the Vulture or someone, but Doc Connors is a great tortured and morally complex villain that was reduced to a cliche.

Did we watch the same movie? (realized I probably should have spoilered below)

Conners was presented as a very morally complex character. He was doing his research to better help humanity, being driven by the idea he could grow his missing arm. He even took a genuine interest in Peter, possibly out of guilt since Peters parent vanished and it was hinted he might have been partly involved. When his OsCorp handler told him to test the serum Peter and him made on homeless people down at the shelter, Conners refused, because it was morally apprehensive, which lead to the handler basically threatening to fire him and shut everything down. This is what drove Conners to try the serum on himself.

The problem was that the serum enhanced the creatures aggressive traits, so in the case of Conners his "drive to help humanity" took a dark turn in that he thought turning them all into Lizards would in turn be helping humanity evolve to the next level. Peter learned that Conners was the Lizard when he saw the mouse they injected earlier in the film eating the other mouse as a hideous lizard mouse.

Peter, having helped develop the serum, had also helped develop a cure strain (they didn't go into great detail about that, I admit) and told Gwen to get to OsCorp to brew it. She succeeded, and gave it to her father, who then rushed up to the top of OsCorp tower, giving it to Spider-Man. Spider-Man then switched out the Lizard serum with the anitode serum just before the timer went off. This dispersed over the city, which cured both Conners and all the police officers he transformed a bit earlier in the film. (It does not "wear off" like you imply, since it only showed the police officers turning back right after the antidote serum was dispersed).

As Spider-Man was about to fall off the OsCorp building to his death (his web shooters were damaged earlier in the fight), Conners reached over with his decaying arm and caught him, saving his life and showing that the Lizard influence was what drove him to horrible rage. He showed concern for the dying Captain Stacy, and later on, after the credits, a mysterious figure visits him in his cell talking about Peter's parents, to which Conners yelled for the figure to "Leave Peter alone!"

Hell, if anything my only complaint is that the Lizard ultimately carried the same story arch as the Green Goblin from the first film. Person creates serum that bestows powers, Person is about to lose funding/money because those funding him are not happy, Person attempts to use serum on self to show it works, Person is driven to near split personality by serum, Person does evil until he gets his one showing of clarity at the end.

Apr 3, 2013#80

evilmike

Concept art from the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase One – Avengers Assembled Blu-ray Collector’s Set (via FBTB, IGN)

Apr 3, 2013#81

Tress

I still think GoG is going to be too much for mainstream audiences to handle. It will look to "out there" for many people, and it's not going to do well at the box office.

Apr 3, 2013#82

Bowielee

I'm fairly certain the only reason they're doing Guardians of the Galaxy is so that it can build up the Infinity Gauntlet storyline for Avengers 2

Apr 3, 2013#83

Frank

Zoe Saldanna is playing Gamora.

Gonna be one skinny ass Gamora.

Edit - Eh, Google image searching, I guess she's always comic book proportioned. I always pictured her, for some reason, as more bulky. She Hulk influence I guess.[DOUBLEPOST=1365023304][/DOUBLEPOST]

Tress said:
I still think GoG is going to be too much for mainstream audiences to handle. It will look to "out there" for many people, and it's not going to do well at the box office.

Marvel's Green Lantern is my most optimistic. I hope it's a better movie, but I think it'll perform just as poorly.

Apr 3, 2013#84

drawn_inward

Bowielee said:
I don't recall him perfecting it. Either way, it's still just beyond stupid. It seriously would have helped if they had done any character development of any of the characters outside Gwen and Peter.

This. It really felt like the movie was a worthless reboot. It wasn't different enough, and I felt the acting, while better than the OT, was a bit weak (I'm blaming the director for that one). It still didn't feel like Spider-man. Maybe I know way too much about the comics, and it's too hard to see the movies without that filter in my head. Overall, I did like it better than Raimi's, but not enough to watch it more than once.

Tress said:
I still think GoG is going to be too much for mainstream audiences to handle. It will look to "out there" for many people, and it's not going to do well at the box office.

I really hope you're wrong, but I feel the same way. It's same for Green Lantern, Silver Surfer, etc.

Though, I really dig that Ralph McQuarrie-esque concept art.

Apr 3, 2013#85

ScytheRexx

If they are smart, they will cameo some of the known stars from the Avengers to help drive home the fact this is connected to that continuity. Thor would be a good choice, like maybe have Hemsworth narrate the trailers.

Apr 4, 2013#86

evilmike

Frank said:
Marvel's Green Lantern is my most optimistic. I hope it's a better movie, but I think it'll perform just as poorly.

I think it should be able to do at least as well as Captain America and Thor. Quality issues of the GL movie aside, its marketing campaign had several missteps. The first trailer was pretty much awful and they were never able to counter the story about the SPFX problems. I'm not sure I know how they could have countered that story once it started. It's just that the story had a life of its own and hurt the lead up to the movie.

Apr 4, 2013#87

ScytheRexx

evilmike said:
I think it should be able to do at least as well as Captain America and Thor. Quality issues of the GL movie aside, its marketing campaign had several missteps. The first trailer was pretty much awful and they were never able to counter the story about the SPFX problems. I'm not sure I know how they could have countered that story once it started. It's just that the story had a life of its own and hurt the lead up to the movie.

Plus can anyone take the bacon suit seriously?

Apr 4, 2013#88

Hailey Knight

I can see GoG being a new Star Wars.

But I could also see it being another Star Wars prequel.

Apr 4, 2013#89

Steve

Quotemander Prime said:
I can see GoG being a new Star Wars.

But I could also see it being another Star Wars prequel.

With Disney owning both properties this could be their vehicle to merge the two universes. Have a few Star Wars characters show up in GoG. Then in the next Star Wars movie put in Captain America and Hawkeye. Avengers 3 you could bring in Chewie and Yoda as new members of the group. Disney, I've done the hard work. Now make it happen. (and yes I did get nauseous typing this.)

Apr 4, 2013#90

Frank

It's being made by James Gunn. I really like his work thus far. I have hopes.[DOUBLEPOST=1365115892][/DOUBLEPOST]

Steve said:
With Disney owning both properties this could be their vehicle to merge the two universes. Have a few Star Wars characters show up in GoG. Then in the next Star Wars movie put in Captain America and Hawkeye. Avengers 3 you could bring in Chewie and Yoda as new members of the group. Disney, I've done the hard work. Now make it happen. (and yes I did get nauseous typing this.)

That's magnificently terrible.

Apr 4, 2013#91

Hailey Knight

Steve said:
With Disney owning both properties this could be their vehicle to merge the two universes. Have a few Star Wars characters show up in GoG. Then in the next Star Wars movie put in Captain America and Hawkeye. Avengers 3 you could bring in Chewie and Yoda as new members of the group. Disney, I've done the hard work. Now make it happen. (and yes I did get nauseous typing this.)

Yeah, it was pretty bad to read as well

. I really don't want this turning into a bad fighting game.

Apr 4, 2013#92

Reverent-one

Quotemander Prime said:
I can see GoG being a new Star Wars.

But I could also see it being another Star Wars prequel.

That's what I think too. And to an extent, I don't really care about how the general audience responds to it, as long as it's a good movie. I'd like for it to do well and have them make more, sure, but I'll take one good GoG movie even if that's all we get. Better that than for it to go the Transformers route and make a lot of money and be crap.[DOUBLEPOST=1365120974][/DOUBLEPOST]

Steve said:
With Disney owning both properties this could be their vehicle to merge the two universes. Have a few Star Wars characters show up in GoG. Then in the next Star Wars movie put in Captain America and Hawkeye. Avengers 3 you could bring in Chewie and Yoda as new members of the group. Disney, I've done the hard work. Now make it happen. (and yes I did get nauseous typing this.)

That's horrible. And I perversely enjoy the Star Trek/X-men crossover novel.

Apr 4, 2013#93

Bowielee

Wait, I just thought of something. If Disney now owns Marvel and Star Wars, will we be seeing reprints of the Marvel Star Wars comics?

Apr 18, 2013#94

evilmike

Deadline is reporting that Michael Rooker has joined the cast playing a character from the original incarnation of the GotG team: Yondu.

May 26, 2013#95

evilmike

HitFix has a fun rumor about the character Michael Rooker is playing. It's not Yondu, but Rhomann Dey.

In case you are wondering, Rhomann Dey gave powers to this guy:

May 27, 2013#96

IronBrig4

evilmike said:
In case you are wondering, Rhomann Dey gave powers to this guy:

Blue blazes!

May 30, 2013#97

Frank

Apparently, Glenn Close is playing the head of Nova Corps. and the concept art of these ships are Nova Corps ship. There are also rumours of Adam Warlock being in the movie.

If half of the shit surrounding this movie is true, it's going to be both bloated and pure Marvel cosmic porn.

May 30, 2013#98

BananaHands

Not only is Glenn Close in this bad boy, but John C. Reilly too.

It would seem that the role the likes of Hugh Laurie and Ken Watanabe were being looked at for James Gunn's Guardians Of The Galaxy has actually gone to Glenn Close, as according to Deadline the multi-time Oscar nominated actress has signed on to play "a leadership role in Nova Corp, the intergalactic space patrol". In the comic this would be Nova Prime, but the site doesn't reveal whether that name will be retained, or any more info unfortunately. Close joins an already very impressive cast which includes Chris Pratt, Zoe Saldana, Lee Pace, Michael Rooker -- and it seems John C. Reilly is officially on board now also.

Jun 2, 2013#99

figmentPez

Karen Gillan has been cast

It's not known yet exactly what character she'll be playing, but what is known:

The Hollywood Reporter writes, “Details for Gillan’s role were not revealed, although it is known she will play the film’s lead female villain.”

I want to see this movie now.

Jun 3, 2013#100

Frank

Benicio Del Toro's been cast in a multi-movie optioned roll that's being kept under wraps. He's slated to be in more movies.

All I can think of is Dr. Strange or Adam Warlock. Maybe he's playing Thanos.

I dunno.

Jun 4, 2013#101

BananaHands

Frank said:
Benicio Del Toro's been cast in a multi-movie optioned roll that's being kept under wraps. He's slated to be in more movies.

All I can think of is Dr. Strange or Adam Warlock. Maybe he's playing Thanos.

I dunno.

I really hope it's not Thanos. I always imagined this guy at Thanos:

Jul 21, 2013#102

evilmike

The panel at Comic-con

Jul 21, 2013#103

HCGLNS

figmentPez said:
Karen Gillan has been cast

It's not known yet exactly what character she'll be playing, but what is known:

The Hollywood Reporter writes, “Details for Gillan’s role were not revealed, although it is known she will play the film’s lead female villain.”

I want to see this movie now.

She is playing Nebula.

And she shaved her head for the role. :Leyla:

Jul 21, 2013#104

figmentPez

HCGLNS said:
And she shaved her head for the role.

*curls up in a ball in the corner*

hair grows back... hair grows back... hair grows back...

Jul 21, 2013#105

HCGLNS

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/07/2...ren-gillan-shows-off-shaved-head-at-comic-con

Jul 21, 2013#106

BananaHands

HCGLNS said:
http://www.torontosun.com/2013/07/2...ren-gillan-shows-off-shaved-head-at-comic-con

Jul 21, 2013#107

Bowielee

At first I wondered why she would shave her head, but then I realized I hadn't really seen the character since one of the Infinity storylines, and that was, like, 15 years ago.

Jul 22, 2013#108

evilmike

i09 has some pictures of props used in the movie.

One of the most interesting:

Jul 22, 2013#109

CynicismKills

God I'm trying not to get hyped for this movie, but they're making that difficult. Glad they're going with Star Lord's super sweet full mask helm and not that weird one he uses in recent books.

Jul 22, 2013#110

sixpackshaker

I just don't see the general public taking to this part of the franchise. On the surface it looks like a harder sell than Pacific Rim.

Jul 22, 2013#111

ThatNickGuy

sixpackshaker said:
I just don't see the general public taking to this part of the franchise. On the surface it looks like a harder sell than Pacific Rim.

1) It's a Marvel movie. That alone will put butts in seats.
2) It's basically a space opera. And Star Wars does sell.
3) ROCKET FRIGGING RACCOON.

Jul 22, 2013#112

sixpackshaker

ThatNickGuy said:
3) ROCKET FRIGGING RACCOON.

That is one of the main reasons that I think it will fail.

Jul 22, 2013#113

ThatNickGuy

sixpackshaker said:
That is one of the main reasons that I think it will fail.

B-b-but....it's a talking raccoon. A-a-and...he carries HUGE guns. And...teams up with a giant, talking tree character.

HOW IS THAT NOT AWESOME!?

Jul 22, 2013#114

AshburnerX

sixpackshaker said:
That is one of the main reasons that I think it will fail.

Rocket Raccoon has actually gained a bit of a following since Marvel Vs Capcom 3. He's a bit more well known now and I'm wondering if his inclusion there was to help pave the way for people to go see the movie...

Jul 22, 2013#115

CynicismKills

Also from what I was reading in the Wikipedia article on the movie, James Gunn (the director) loves Rocket Raccoon's character so he's likely going to be a big part of the movie.

Jul 22, 2013#116

ThatNickGuy

Much like Avengers vs Ultron should have the "Ultron! We would have words with thee!" line, I hope the movie has this or something equally badass.

Jul 23, 2013#117

CynicismKills

OH no. No no no. I want this.

Jul 23, 2013#118

Frank

I predict it will be an enjoyable film, moreso than most of the Marvel movies actually, but it will definitely be one of the least successful.

Audiences are terrible.

Jul 23, 2013#119

BananaHands

Frank said:
I predict it will be an enjoyable film, moreso than most of the Marvel movies actually, but it will definitely be one of the least successful.

Audiences are terrible.

I don't know... Chris Pratt? John C. Reilly? Karen Gillian? These are people that bring audiences in.

Jul 23, 2013#120

Bowielee

I too think that this will probably be one of the best Marvel movies and probably one of the worst received by audiences.

Jul 23, 2013#121

Tress

BananaHands said:
I don't know... Chris Pratt? John C. Reilly? Karen Gillian? These are people that bring audiences in.

When you list those names, most people will say "Who?", "Meh", and "Who?" in that order.

Jul 23, 2013#122

ThatNickGuy

Tress said:
When you list those names, most people will say "Who?", "Meh", and "Doctor Who?" in that order.

Fixed that for you.

Jul 23, 2013#123

BananaHands

All I know is that people said Thor was going to do terribly and that ended up being incredibly successful. I have faith.

Jul 23, 2013#124

Covar

CBR is reporting that Marvel Studios has started production.

Jul 23, 2013#125

Frank

Still no word on who's playing Rocket Raccoon eh?

We know Gillan is playing Nebula, Lee Pace is Ronan and Benicio Del Toro is The Collector.

Ian McShane would be a fucking rad RR.

Jul 23, 2013#126

ThatNickGuy

Frank said:
Still no word on who's playing Rocket Raccoon eh?

Pauly Shore. :troll:

Jul 24, 2013#127

sixpackshaker

ThatNickGuy said:
Pauly Shore.

Ahmed Best.

Jul 26, 2013#128

sixpackshaker

Still no word on who is going to play Groot.

He'll end up getting all the best lines.

Jul 26, 2013#129

Tiger Tsang

sixpackshaker said:
Still no word on who is going to play Groot.

He'll end up getting all the best lines.

Hodor? Hodor!

Aug 11, 2013#130

evilmike

AICN is reporting that Groot will be voiced by...

Vin Diesel.

They also have a few pictures of extras filming on the Millenium Bridge

Latino Review also has pictures:

Aug 12, 2013#131

Frank

Iron Giant-like voiced Groot. Works about as well as it ever could.

Aug 12, 2013#132

BananaHands

Guys I might cry.

[DOUBLEPOST=1376326131,1376326101][/DOUBLEPOST]And I need a change of pants.

[DOUBLEPOST=1376326170][/DOUBLEPOST]But you need to hurry to see the leaked trailer:
Part 1

Part 2[DOUBLEPOST=1376326465][/DOUBLEPOST]So let's go over this:

Rocket looks like a raccoon. He also fires from Groot's shoulder (good).

Gamora looks more sexy than strong (eh).

HELMET (HELMET)

[DOUBLEPOST=1376326732][/DOUBLEPOST]Oh, and because the videos are going to be knocked down soon. Here's every decent screencap you can get from that:

Aug 13, 2013#133

ThatNickGuy

My inner 5-year old can't flarking wait to see Rocket Raccoon.

Oh, who the hell am I kidding? I as an adult can't wait to see Rocket Raccoon.

Aug 13, 2013#134

Ravenpoe

This movie looks like it will be AMAZING.

And also like it will do terribly in the box office.

Aug 13, 2013#135

Frank

There's something completely right about John C Reilly being Nova Corps.

Aug 13, 2013#136

twitchmoss

OOGA CHAKA OOGA CHAKA OOGA CHAKA

I CAN'T WAIT A YEAR FOR THIS.

Aug 13, 2013#137

Espy

I trust James Gunn. I probably shouldn't but I do.

Aug 13, 2013#138

drawn_inward

Frank said:
There's something completely right about John C Reilly being Nova Corps.

I wish he wasn't in this. I don't care for him. Oh well.

Aug 13, 2013#139

evilmike

In case anyone missed it, here is a still-active link:
http://vk.com/video-28416224_165782862

Aug 13, 2013#140

BananaHands

drawn_inward said:
I wish he wasn't in this. I don't care for him. Oh well.

I think he can pull off Rhomann Dey ...

And if it's anything like the comics, you'll really only need to worry about him for this movie and the beginning of a Nova one.

Aug 13, 2013#141

ThatNickGuy

drawn_inward said:
I wish he wasn't in this. I don't care for him. Oh well.

I'm with you there, man. I've never understood the appeal of him.

Aug 13, 2013#142

BananaHands

Aug 13, 2013#143

Covar

fun fact, Galactus ate Nu-Earth because of that. Wasted a lot of energy to go there, said it had the nutritional value of a twinkie, but you kill future Galactus, he's going to eat your planet.

Aug 13, 2013#144

BananaHands

Covar said:
fun fact, Galactus ate Nu-Earth because of that. Wasted a lot of energy to go there, said it had the nutritional value of a twinkie, but you kill future Galactus, he's going to eat your planet.

He's killing the Ultimate Verse right now too. What a bro.

Aug 13, 2013#145

Covar

It was pretty awesome. Surfer discovers the body, picking up on the cosmic energy, alerts Galactus. Galactus demands that Reed Richards explains things before he decides to devour the earth for containing the future corpse of ~~Bray Wyatt~~ the eater of worlds. Reed tags along and goes down to Nu-Earth to try and help people evacuate.

Aug 13, 2013#146

BananaHands

Covar said:
It was pretty awesome. Surfer discovers the body, picking up on the cosmic energy, alerts Galactus. Galactus demands that Reed Richards explains things before he decides to devour the earth for containing the future corpse of ~~Bray Wyatt~~ the eater of worlds. Reed tags along and goes down to Nu-Earth to try and help people evacuate.

What series is that in?

Aug 13, 2013#147

Covar

Nu-Earth and the Galactus Engine were created in Mark Millar's run on Fantastic Four (meh), Galactus's destruction of it takes place in Hickman's Fantastic Four run (top notch).

Aug 13, 2013#148

Espy

Is Nu-Earth where bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit come from?

Aug 13, 2013#149

Tress

Espy said:
Is Nu-Earth where bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit come from?

... because if so, I'm going to set out a plate and some silverware for Galactus.

Aug 13, 2013#150

BananaHands

Espy said:
Is Nu-Earth where bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit come from?

That's the cancerverse.

Aug 13, 2013#151

IronBrig4

Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern...

People keep talking about Rhomann Dey. I don't see a Nova Centurion in the trailer.

Aug 13, 2013#152

Reverent-one

IronBrig4 said:
People keep talking about Rhomann Dey. I don't see a Nova Centurion in the trailer.

The lights on the chest of the guy behind Reilly (which you can also see the tops of on Reilly's uniform) look like a version of the Nova Corps chest symbol to me.

Aug 13, 2013#153

Frank

Reilly and the guy who said A-holes, Peter Serafinowicz (the other room mate from Sean of the Dead) are both Nova corps officers.

Aug 13, 2013#154

evilmike

IronBrig4 said:
Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern. Please be better than Green Lantern...

People keep talking about Rhomann Dey. I don't see a Nova Centurion in the trailer.

From the Comic-Con display:

Also, from the shooting location:

Aug 13, 2013#155

ScytheRexx

It already wins because it does not have a bacon suit and a CGI mask.

Aug 13, 2013#156

IronBrig4

Blue blazes! Seeing Nova Corps makes me very happy.

Aug 13, 2013#157

ThatNickGuy

It looks like they might be more like powerless space-cops, rather than the Green Lantern rip-offs they can be sometimes.

Aug 13, 2013#158

Ravenpoe

So, I don't know who these nova whatevers are... or really much of anything about Guardians of the Galaxy (except that this movie looks spectacular) so what should I read to fix this?

Trades only, please, I'm not buying individual comics.

Aug 13, 2013#159

Frank

I give up, linking to Amazon just isn't happening.

It's like 100 bucks though for the first trade from a few years ago. Movie hysteria + out of print trade = big bucks.

Aug 13, 2013#160

ThatNickGuy

Ravenpoe said:
So, I don't know who these nova whatevers are... or really much of anything about Guardians of the Galaxy (except that this movie looks spectacular) so what should I read to fix this?

Trades only, please, I'm not buying individual comics.

The cosmic Marvel stuff was, as a whole, pretty spectacular, actually. It's like this epic, grand scale space opera with a lot of really cool secondary characters (like Nova and Darkhawk) given front, centre stage. Even better? It's incredibly self-contained, away from all the crap Marvel was doing at the time, like Civil War. It's even joked in an issue of Nova where he goes back to Earth and Iron Man says they thought it was some little squabble or something.

If you don't mind reading it all (or most of it), it's a pretty fun ride. My suggestion? Marvel collected the first two cosmic stories quite well:

There's Annihilation Vol. 1-3, followed by Annihilation: Conquest Vol. 1-2. The latter is where the GotG form for the first time, but of course, being a comic book team, membership changes. Their own book spins out of this event, but Frank's right. You could probably safely jump into the main title.

Personally, I think it'd be more enjoyable to start with Annihilation since other characters from it and Conquest show up. And they're just awesome, cosmic comics. That's coming from someone who's not usually a big fan of cosmic stuff.

Aug 13, 2013#161

Frank

Like Nick says, when Marvel was releasing bullshit like Civil War, they were secretly also releasing gold like Annihilation.

Unfortunately, all those God damn trades are a fucking mint now.

Yeah, Annihilation is crazy expensive too.

17 bucks listed price for the first trade, out of stock. Sellers selling it from 160 bucks and up. Seriously, pirating it may be your only option that isn't ridiculous bank breaking.

I don't use the comixology stuff so I don't know if it's on there for cheaper by the issue.

Aug 13, 2013#162

ThatNickGuy

My only beef with the Cosmic stuff overall was the event after Conquest. The War of Kings was dull, not to mention harder to follow than their simple Volume 1, 2, 3 format before. Its big bad was also incredibly uninteresting, spinning out of X-Men crap that I had no interest in.

Of course, the fallout made it all worth it. The Thanos Imperative was the perfect conclusion to everything. But yeah, the War of Kings was definitely my least favourite part of the overall cosmic stuff.

Aug 13, 2013#163

Frank

I'd still take War of Kings over Avengers Vs Xmen.

Aug 13, 2013#164

IronBrig4

You gotta love the '70s Marvel comics. Out of sight! Far out! I also can't believe people thought bell-bottoms and Farrah Fawcett hairdos looked cool.

Aug 13, 2013#165

ThatNickGuy

Frank said:
I'd still take War of Kings over Avengers Vs Xmen.

Hell yes. This. This a million times.

Aug 14, 2013#166

Far

After seeing Elysium I want Sharlto Copley to voice Rocket.

Aug 14, 2013#167

klew

These were the Guardians I read.

Aug 14, 2013#168

ThatNickGuy

klew said:
These were the Guardians I read.

I don't see any tree or squirrel characters in that group. Therefore, they are vastly inferior.

Aug 14, 2013#169

klew

ThatNickGuy said:
I don't see any tree or squirrel characters in that group. Therefore, they are vastly inferior.

they had lots of teeth whitener

Aug 14, 2013#170

Frank

They relished their DEEEEEEP v-necks in the 30th century.

Aug 14, 2013#171

Fun Size

Nova Annihilation Book 1, reserved from a local library.

Libraries FTW, bitches!

Aug 14, 2013#172

BananaHands

Ravenpoe said:
So, I don't know who these nova whatevers are... or really much of anything about Guardians of the Galaxy (except that this movie looks spectacular) so what should I read to fix this?

Trades only, please, I'm not buying individual comics.

Go nuts.

Aug 14, 2013#173

Necronic

Frank said:
Like Nick says, when Marvel was releasing bullshit like Civil War, they were secretly also releasing gold like Annihilation.

Unfortunately, all those God damn trades are a fucking mint now.

Yeah, Annihilation is crazy expensive too.

17 bucks listed price for the first trade, out of stock. Sellers selling it from 160 bucks and up. Seriously, pirating it may be your only option that isn't ridiculous bank breaking.

I don't use the comixology stuff so I don't know if it's on there for cheaper by the issue.

Holy shiza. I have a couple of those.

Also the last one/ending is not so great imho. Now, the one where Nova gets hit by the Phalanx, that one is pretty sweet.

Aug 14, 2013#174

SpecialKO

The only thing I'm disappointed by is not getting a Nova movie. Since Annihilation, he's pretty much been my favorite Marvel protagonist.

And he went out like a goddamn boss (even if it didn't stick, exactly)

Aug 14, 2013#175

Null

I have no familiarity with the series, but I did see a funny post about it. "DC says that a Wonder Woman movie would be 'too confusing for the audience'" (Which, btw, what the fuck?) "Marvel says, 'Oh yeah? We're making a movie featuring a Space Raccoon With A Machine Gun.' Suck it."

Aug 14, 2013#176

sixpackshaker

It will be interesting to see how an actual comic book movie would do in this day and age.

Aug 14, 2013#177

evilmike

Aug 14, 2013#178

Null

That's the one, evilmike.

Aug 14, 2013#179

ScytheRexx

AWWW YEAH!

For those that can't find the trailer and want the best parts in GIF format, this article has it.

Aug 14, 2013#180

SpecialKO

That RR GIF is goshdarned amazing.

Aug 27, 2013#181

evilmike

First look at Michael Rooker in costume (via io9)

Aug 29, 2013#182

GasBandit

I don't think American audiences are ready to take seriously a movie that has a live action anthropomorphic raccoon in it.

Aug 30, 2013#183

AshburnerX

GasBandit said:
I don't think American audiences are ready to take seriously a movie that has a live action anthropomorphic raccoon in it.

This movie might do okay, but it's not going to be the big hit Marvel wants it to be unless they promote it HARD.

Aug 30, 2013#184

Fun Size

GasBandit said:
I don't think American audiences are ready to take seriously a movie that has a live action anthropomorphic raccoon in it.

Honestly, I think it depends on how it's marketed. The thing about comic book movies that Marvel has gotten pretty consistently right is that, when you get right down to it, all of this is really silly. I mean, really silly. Marvel thus far has kind of embraced that, to great comedic effect in what would otherwise have been pretty straight up action movies, and that's what's working for them IMHO. By the final "gritty" Batman movie, I found that I didn't give a damn about it because it wanted to be taken seriously, and I just couldn't do that. Avengers, on the other hand, reveled in how preposterous it all was without ever coming right out and asking me to take it seriously, and as a result worked way better.

I think with that mindset, you could totally sell a gun-wielding, talking raccoon, because I don't care who you are - that's funny.

Aug 30, 2013#185

SpecialKO

Fun Size said:
I think with that mindset, you could totally sell a gun-wielding, talking raccoon, because I don't care who you are - that's funny.

Aug 30, 2013#186

BananaHands

[OOGA CHAKA INTENSIFIES]

Aug 30, 2013#187

ScytheRexx

AshburnerX said:
This movie might do okay, but it's not going to be the big hit Marvel wants it to be unless they promote it HARD.

Marvel already has what they need to make this movie take off.

Ever since Iron Man, Marvel has been having movies lead into other movies, letting them pretty much cross-promote each other. Tony Stark appearing in Hulk, Thor's Hammer appearing at the end of Iron Man 2, the Cosmic Cube at the end of Thor leading into Captain America. Even things like Howard Stark in Captain America, and the ever present Nick Fury, have done a great job cross-promoting each movie.

This, more then anything, was one of the reasons the Avengers did so well. Yes many of us wanted an Avengers movie forever, but the general audience got hooked by seeing all these things build up over countless inter-tangled movie franchises.

If they are smart, they need to promote the Guardians of the Galaxy movie at some point in Thor: The Dark World, and later on have maybe a cameo of a character like Loki in the trailer. If they do that I know people are going to go see it just by the connection.

If they attempt to make it stand 100% on it's own? Yes, I don't see it being a hit.

Aug 30, 2013#188

Adam

RR will be the most popular character of the movie, calling it now.

Aug 30, 2013#189

ScytheRexx

Adam said:
RR will be the most popular character of the movie, calling it now.

I agree. Him and Groot make the series really. Very few people I know give a crap about characters like Star Lord.

Aug 30, 2013#190

BananaHands

ScytheRexx said:
I agree. Him and Groot make the series really. Very few people I know give a crap about characters like Star Lord.

If Star Lord is done right, I'm sure people will be a huge fan of him. Chris Pratt could probably make him an extremely likable character.

Aug 30, 2013#191

Frank

Adam said:
RR will be the most popular character of the movie, calling it now.

It's all gonna come down to the voice for me, but yeah, probably.

KEEP HIM COCKNEY!

Aug 30, 2013#192

GasBandit

I just want it on record that "Star Lord" is an asinine name for a character, even if that character DID turn out to be lord of one or more stars.

Aug 30, 2013#193

Tress

...and "Rocket Racoon" isn't much better.

Aug 30, 2013#194

drawn_inward

ScytheRexx said:
I agree. Him and Groot make the series really. Very few people I know give a crap about characters like Star Lord.

RR will definitely popular with the kiddos. I see big toy sales/swag for this one.

Aug 30, 2013#195

HCGLNS

The Halloween costumes for RR will be great!

Hasn't Thanos been rumoured to play a larger background role in this film, helping set the stage for Avengers 3?

Aug 30, 2013#196

Bellygrub

They've also introduced him into the Marvel Online game. I saw quite a few Rocket Racoons running about in beta.

Aug 30, 2013#197

filmfanatic

This just in: Bradley Cooper has been confirmed as Rocket Raccoon.

Also, Marvel member Kevin Feige talked a bit more about the film and, while Thanos is the behind the scenes manipulator of the villains, the main bad guy for the Guardians of the Galaxy film is Ronan the Accuser.

Aug 30, 2013#198

Bowielee

Hmmm... I wonder if they aren't planning on sprinkling in the Infinity Gem stuff through a whole bunch of different movies and then doing a full on Infinity Gauntlet movie, much like they did with the Cosmic Cube and The Avengers.

Aug 30, 2013#199

filmfanatic

Bowielee said:
Hmmm... I wonder if they aren't planning on sprinkling in the Infinity Gem stuff through a whole bunch of different movies and then doing a full on Infinity Gauntlet movie, much like they did with the Cosmic Cube and The Avengers.

That would be my guess. I'd expect to maybe see references and appearances of the various gems over the course of the films, leading up to Avengers 3.

Aug 30, 2013#200

Bowielee

It may not even fall under the Avengers banner. The Avengers themselves weren't actually a huge part of the Infinity Gauntlet storyline. Unless you count them all getting killed in 5 minutes flat by Thanos.

Aug 31, 2013#201

Espy

Bradley Cooper? Huh.

Aug 31, 2013#202

ThatNickGuy

Yep, that sure is a casting, all right.

Aug 31, 2013#203

ScytheRexx

I don't know... I don't mind it that much. I already figured they were going to drop the Cockney accent, so depending on how he does the voice I can see it working. Still wish they went with at least a real British actor though.

Aug 31, 2013#204

Frank

They are just attaching as many big names as possible at this point BUT, Bradley Cooper is actually pretty fucking good at voices and impersonation so there's that.

Jan 1, 2014#205

Dave

Disney has released the first official picture of Guardians of the Galaxy.

Jan 1, 2014#206

HCGLNS

Also the WWE is bringing back Dave Batista (starring as Drax the Destroyer) for a short run to co-promote/sponge off the movies release.

Jan 1, 2014#207

AshburnerX

So... the first official image is a still from a trailer that was leaked to the public months ago? *yawn*

Jan 1, 2014#208

CynicismKills

AshburnerX said:
So... the first official image is a still from a trailer that was leaked to the public months ago? *yawn*

The trailer shot on a potato phone/camera from an odd angle at a convention? Don't be such a downer.

Jan 1, 2014#209

CynicismKills

Also I think most people knew this already but Vin Diesel is Groot, both in VA work and MoCap.

Also also this tidbit from a Bautista interview about getting the Drax part made me happy: "There’s a point where I go to set every day and I still can’t freaking believe I got this job,” said Bautista. “It’s something that I wanted more than anything I ever wanted in my life. When I got it, I broke down and cried like a little baby."

Jan 2, 2014#210

Espy

Just release a damn trailer already. You got what, 6 months or so to make people realize this movie is going to be awesome. Start working now or it's gonna FLOP.

Believe me I don't want it to flop, I love everyone involved with this film but I'm terrified no one but the diehard will bother to see it.

Jan 2, 2014#211

Frank

That has been my fear since it was announced.

Jan 2, 2014#212

Espy

Frank said:
That has been my fear since it was announced.

Yeah, I like that lots of folks are positive about it but I really, really think the general public is gonna just ignore it without the perfect publicity push. But I don't know what that is.

Jan 2, 2014#213

Shakey

Espy said:
Yeah, I like that lots of folks are positive about it but I really, really think the general public is gonna just ignore it without the perfect publicity push. But I don't know what that is.

Like Pacific Rim. I don't think most people knew what to make of it, and it seemed like their big publicity push came at the last minute. They really need to start building some hype for it.

Jan 2, 2014#214

Espy

Shakey said:
Like Pacific Rim. I don't think most people knew what to make of it, and it seemed like their big publicity push came at the last minute. They really need to start building some hype for it.

They probably should find a good marketing angle that ties it in to The Avengers or something. It's a low brow way to go about it but honestly I'm not sure what other direction would get people in the door?

Jan 2, 2014#215

ThatNickGuy

Espy said:
I'm not sure what other direction would get people in the door?

Kill off one of the main cast members, blaming it on their work on the movie as the thing that pushed them over the edge?

It worked for Dark Knight.

Jan 2, 2014#216

GasBandit

ThatNickGuy said:
Kill off one of the main cast members, blaming it on their work on the movie as the thing that pushed them over the edge?

It worked for Dark Knight.

Late into the night, Vin Diesel was heard rocking back and forth on the edge of his bed chanting "I am Groot. I AM Groot. I am GROOT." When they later found him, hypothermic and crushed under all that wood, so many wondered why they didn't see it coming. The critics were forced to admit that it was, however, the best performance he had ever given in any of his movie roles.

Jan 2, 2014#217

Hailey Knight

It would've been smart to at least throw a teaser before Frozen. Does Disney have anything coming out between that and Captain America 2? Because Cap's in April and three months isn't enough time to just be getting started with buzz for Guardians. Summer blockbuster season will be just around the corner at that point and people will already be excited about other movies. This is going to be forgotten if Marvel and Disney don't step up.

Jan 2, 2014#218

filmfanatic

I know that the Super Bowl will have a trailer for Guardians of the Galaxy.

Jan 2, 2014#219

Reverent-one

Shakey said:
Like Pacific Rim. I don't think most people knew what to make of it, and it seemed like their big publicity push came at the last minute. They really need to start building some hype for it.

With Pacific Rim, there's also the "Looks like another crappy Transformers movie" bit from people who just saw that it had giant robots fighting, so not it's just people not knowing what to make it of, but thinking it looks like something bad.

Also, as a minor, comicbook-fan type of worry, I'm a little concerned about everything they're saying about Ronan in the movie (which isn't much, but still). The press release synopsis says calls him "a powerful villain with ambitions that threaten the entire universe" and in interviews the actor has described him as "Thanos's admiral who hunts down the Guardians" and " a psycho...a real monster". He's the sort of guy that could work as antagonist really easily as a extremist of the law/his view of justice, but some form of power-hungry evil dude would be...disappointing.

Jan 2, 2014#220

Frank

Reverent-one said:
With Pacific Rim, there's also the "Looks like another crappy Transformers movie" bit from people who just saw that it had giant robots fighting, so not it's just people not knowing what to make it of, but thinking it looks like something bad.

I don't believe that, since the next Transformers will probably make just as much idiot money as those before it.

Jan 2, 2014#221

Reverent-one

Frank said:
I don't believe that, since the next Transformers will probably make just as much idiot money as those before it.

Transformers has some name recognition and nostalgia going for it, Pacific Rim did not. And I'm not saying everyone thought that, but it was part of it. I'm not just theorizing either, I actually heard people cite that as a reason they're not interested. It was disappointing.

Jan 3, 2014#222

Adam

Pacific Rim also wasn't that good of a movie either.

Jan 3, 2014#223

BananaHands

I'm still so excited.

Jan 3, 2014#224

Frank

Adam said:
Pacific Rim also wasn't that good of a movie either.

It was big dumb idiot fun done right, or more right anyway.

Feb 3, 2014#225

filmfanatic

...And still no ads for it. I would have thought that Disney would have started rolling out the trailers for it with the Super Bowl, but no. I guess they're going to save the first trailers for Captain America: the Winter Soldier.

Feb 3, 2014#226

evilmike

James Gunn has said that there will be something "soon". I'm just not sure what it would be tied to other than maybe the Daytona 500.

Feb 3, 2014#227

ThatNickGuy

filmfanatic said:
...And still no ads for it. I would have thought that Disney would have started rolling out the trailers for it with the Super Bowl, but no. I guess they're going to save the first trailers for Captain America: the Winter Soldier.

You saw the Tea Party's reaction to that Coke commercial. How do you think they'd feel if a bunch of ALIENS wanted to save the galaxy?

No no no. It had to be The Winter Soldier trailer because 'MURICA!

Feb 3, 2014#228

Tress

ThatNickGuy said:
You saw the Tea Party's reaction to that Coke commercial...

Oh Nick, very funny!

...you ARE joking, right?

*does a Google search*

No. No no no no no. Fucking idiots. :mad:

Feb 3, 2014#229

BananaHands

THANKS OBAMA FOR A TALKIN' RACCOON THATS AN AFFRONT TO JESUS

Feb 3, 2014#230

SpecialKO

BananaHands said:
THANKS OBAMA FOR A TALKIN' RACCOON THATS AN AFFRONT TO JESUS

I dunno, he seems pretty down with farm animals.

Feb 3, 2014#231

CrimsonSoul

Tress said:
Oh Nick, very funny!

...you ARE joking, right?

*does a Google search*

No. No no no no no. Fucking idiots.

Oh it can't be that bad.

*googles*
*loses 10 iq points*

Thanks for that.

Feb 3, 2014#232

sixpackshaker

My Sis-in-Law's Mom posted the English only America the Beautiful post on Facebook too... I just don't know her well enough to slap that post down.

Feb 3, 2014#233

Gilgamesh

sixpackshaker said:
My Sis-in-Law's Mom posted the English only America the Beautiful post on Facebook too... I just don't know her well enough to slap that post down.

I just block people that ignorant that I can't remove without drama.

Feb 3, 2014#234

Tiger Tsang

sixpackshaker said:
My Sis-in-Law's Mom posted the English only America the Beautiful post on Facebook too... I just don't know her well enough to slap that post down.

See if you can find it being sung in a Native American language

Feb 3, 2014#235

checkeredhat

evilmike said:
James Gunn has said that there will be something "soon". I'm just not sure what it would be tied to other than maybe the Daytona 500.

I mean, I heard there is kind of a big event happening in Russia over the next few weeks.

Feb 3, 2014#236

HCGLNS

Tiger Tsang said:
See if you can find it being sung in a Native American language

Feb 7, 2014#237

HCGLNS

Not sure if any of you are watching Hulk and the Agents of SMASH

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hulk_and_the_Agents_of_S.M.A.S.H._episodes

But if you look at the characters they are introducing, it is very heavy on villains from space. I feel they are again using their cartoons to help familiarize their audience with characters that will be unveiled in the movies.

Feb 13, 2014#238

evilmike

io9 is reporting that the first trailer will be available on the 18th!

Also, here are links to two very short clips showing test footage of Groot and Rocket Raccoon:
http://www.movieweb.com/movie/guardians-of-the-galaxy/groot-rocket-gun-fight-concept
http://www.movieweb.com/movie/guardians-of-the-galaxy/groot-rocket-gun-fight-concept-2

Also, the following is apparently not test footage of Groot and Rocket:

Feb 13, 2014#239

IronBrig4

Ultimate Spider-Man had a season 2 episode about the Guardians. It wasn't half bad.

Feb 14, 2014#240

Bowielee

Starlord's costume looks terrible in that clip

Feb 14, 2014#241

ThatNickGuy

They also had a fun appearance on Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

Feb 14, 2014#242

Bowielee

They also make an appearance at the end of the Lego Marvel Heroes game. They've been building up some interest among kids and, well, geeks, but not in the overall movie going community. They only have one more movie before it is released to build hype.

Feb 14, 2014#243

bhamv3

I'll be honest, I have no idea what Guardians of the Galaxy is.

I've watched every single MCU movie in theaters so far, but this is the first one I might end up skipping.

Feb 14, 2014#244

Bowielee

bhamv3 said:
I'll be honest, I have no idea what Guardians of the Galaxy is.

I've watched every single MCU movie in theaters so far, but this is the first one I might end up skipping.

Exactly.

Feb 14, 2014#245

Tress

bhamv3 said:
I'll be honest, I have no idea what Guardians of the Galaxy is.

I've watched every single MCU movie in theaters so far, but this is the first one I might end up skipping.

I've been saying this the whole time, but I don't think you'll be alone. Most people will not have any idea what this is and they won't go as a result.

Feb 14, 2014#246

IronBrig4

The current incarnation of Guardians of the Galaxy didn't come about until 2008. They're a very new team so most people haven't heard of them. That's why I'm thinking they will be featured in the post-credits scene after Cap 2.

Feb 14, 2014#247

checkeredhat

So wait, you guys only go see movies if you are familiar with the characters beforehand?

I've only seen a handful of the Marvel movies in theatres; Iron Man, Iron Man 2( Unfortunately), and Captain America 1 (Nope, didn't get to see the Avengers in the theatre). I know absolutely nothing about Guardians of the Galaxy and this forum was the first place I heard about it. But it looks very interesting and as such I'm planning on going for this one.

I do think that they need to market it carefully, because it looks so bizarre that with audiences being completely unaware of it I think it has the potential to turn a lot of people off. I'm certainly not the majority. But I don't think people being unfamiliar with the material automatically means it will bomb. Outside of comic book readers, Iron Man was essentially an unknown too and thanks to great casting he has become the linchpin of the Marvel cinematic universe. People weren't really aware of Thor at all as a Marvel character, and that's become huge as well in no small part, again, to great casting.

Its kind of a crapshoot really. It's going to come down to how good their marketing team is, but honestly I think they have enough under their belt now that slapping "Marvel Studios" on the front of the trailer will be enough to pull in those on the fence.

Feb 14, 2014#248

sixpackshaker

Hopefully Disney fired the John Carter marketing team.

Feb 14, 2014#249

SpecialKO

I'm just saying that if you can't market a smart-ass, BFG-wielding, talking raccoon space cop to a superhero-watching audience, you deserve to get fired.

Feb 14, 2014#250

IronBrig4

Actually, Disney did fire them. Both the head of Disney Studios and the head of marketing were forced to resign.

Feb 14, 2014#251

checkeredhat

They took "[...]Of Mars" out of the title for that thinking it'd turn people off. This movie remains called "THE GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY", which, let's be perfectly honest, sounds way stupider. I think its safe to say they learned a lesson there, or are at least willing to take a chance.

I never understood that thinking anyway. Honestly; "John Carter of Mars" might sound a little silly, but really, "Star Wars"? Come on. There's a ridiculous title, am I right?

Feb 14, 2014#252

Gilgamesh

John Carter was DAMN DAMN good. Sad that it didn't do better.

Feb 17, 2014#253

Espy

Gilgamesh said:
John Carter was DAMN DAMN good. Sad that it didn't do better.

Totally agree. See: How a marketing department can totally screw over a good movie

Feb 17, 2014#254

CynicismKills

Trailer premiere during Jimmy Kimmel Live, tomorrow night.

Feb 17, 2014#255

evilmike

CynicismKills said:
Trailer premiere during Jimmy Kimmel Live, tomorrow night.

Here are a few screenshots courtesy of AICN:

Feb 17, 2014#256

ThatNickGuy

By god, Rocket Raccoon's gun is as tall as he is!

Feb 17, 2014#257

CynicismKills

ThatNickGuy said:
By god, Rocket Raccoon's gun is as tall as he is!

Feb 17, 2014#258

bhamv3

checkeredhat said:
So wait, you guys only go see movies if you are familiar with the characters beforehand?

Not necessarily. It's just that since I have a limited budget for movie tickets, I prefer to go for films that I believe have a higher chance of entertaining me. Sometimes it's due to having a cool trailer. Sometimes it's due to reading good reviews, or hearing good word-of-mouth. And yes, sometimes it's due to having characters I'm already familiar with.

Of course, this can backfire horribly. Stupid Robocop reboot.

Feb 17, 2014#259

Gilgamesh

Any chance for some larger high res versions of those pics?

Feb 17, 2014#260

Tress

Gilgamesh said:
Any chance for some larger high res versions of those pics?

Probably tomorrow after the trailer gets released.

Feb 17, 2014#261

figmentPez

Gilgamesh said:
Any chance for some larger high res versions of those pics?

Slightly higher res can be found here.

Feb 17, 2014#262

checkeredhat

Pfft.

...Only the one image though.

Feb 17, 2014#263

Shawn

It's very hard to take such a movie called "Guardians of the Galaxy" seriously when one of the members is a raccoon.

Feb 17, 2014#264

checkeredhat

I don't think its supposed to be taken seriously.

Feb 17, 2014#265

ThatNickGuy

Shawnacy said:
It's very hard to take such a movie called "Guardians of the Galaxy" seriously when one of the members is a raccoon.

None of them are really capable of guarding the whole galaxy. Not even as a team. The same joke/comment was made in the comic, especially after the team disbanded in favour of heavy hitters to create The Annihilators. I mean, if you want to nitpick, The Avengers don't really avenge, do they? A better name would The Rescuers, The Saviours, or The Bad Guy Beat'em Uppers.

Guardians of the Galaxy is still a great sounding name for a team.

Feb 17, 2014#266

CynicismKills

Shawnacy said:
It's very hard to take such a movie called "Guardians of the Galaxy" seriously when one of the members is a raccoon.

Man, you don't even know.

He's a nasty little bastard.

Feb 17, 2014#267

AshburnerX

Shawnacy said:
It's very hard to take such a movie called "Guardians of the Galaxy" seriously when one of the members is a raccoon.

If your intention was to take ANY comic book movie seriously, you have already missed the point of having a movie based on a comic book.

Feb 18, 2014#268

GasBandit

Yes, but let's not pretend a talking, wisecracking raccoon doesn't pass an extra level of disbelief requirement level from your standard superhero fare.

Feb 18, 2014#269

ScytheRexx

GasBandit said:
Yes, but let's not pretend a talking, wisecracking raccoon doesn't pass an extra level of disbelief requirement level from your standard superhero fare.

Maybe, but I don't really see it as all that crazy or unbelievable. Marvel and DC are chock full of talking animal or half-animal characters.

I mean holy crap, they gave HOWARD THE DUCK his own movie ages ago. People seem to forget he exists in the Marvel universe. Why does having a gun crazy raccoon make people stand back in disbelief?

Feb 18, 2014#270

filmfanatic

ScytheRexx said:
Maybe, but I don't really see it all that crazy. Marvel and DC are chock full of talking animal or half-animal characters.

I mean holy crap, they gave HOWARD THE DUCK his own movie ages ago. People seem to forget he exists in the Marvel universe.

That movie is the reason why they forget.

Feb 18, 2014#271

GasBandit

ScytheRexx said:
Maybe, but I don't really see it all that crazy. Marvel and DC are chock full of talking animal or half-animal characters.

I mean holy crap, they gave HOWARD THE DUCK his own movie ages ago. People seem to forget he exists in the Marvel universe.

Aaaand how well did that go over, do you remember?

(I do.)

Feb 18, 2014#272

Frank

I wonder if they're going to go with his batshit looney tunes fucking insane origin from comics or the origin from the cartoons (I can't remember if it was Mightiest Heroes or Ultimate Spider-Man) where he says he's just an alien that looks like a raccoon.

Feb 18, 2014#273

CynicismKills

I dunno, animals given sentience to guard psychotic inmates in a walled off sector of the universe is pretty awesome as far as origins go. At least he's not another alien from a dead planet or something.[DOUBLEPOST=1392707988,1392707824][/DOUBLEPOST]Oh, and if you want weird as fuck characters?

Meet Doop.

Feb 18, 2014#274

figmentPez

Raccoons are killers, man, you better watch out.

Feb 18, 2014#275

ScytheRexx

filmfanatic said:
That movie is the reason why they forget.

GasBandit said:
Aaaand how well did that go over, do you remember?

(I do.)

All I am saying is, having a talking raccoon shouldn't put people in disbelief. You can find it silly, because it pretty much is, but I think disbelief is the wrong word when the character comes from a universe with a talking duck.

Hell, they let Squirrel Girl punch Thanos in the dick, and she had two sidekick talking squirrels named "Monkey Joe" and "Tippy Toe".

Feb 18, 2014#276

filmfanatic

ScytheRexx said:
All I am saying is, having a talking raccoon shouldn't put people in disbelief. You can find it silly, because it pretty much is, but I think disbelief is the wrong word when the character comes from a universe with a talking duck.

Hell, they let Squirrel Girl punch Thanos in the dick, and she had two sidekick talking squirrels named "Monkey Joe" and "Tippy Toe".

...And unfortunately, we probably won't see Squirrel Girl turn up in a film.

That is the thing. Comics and live-action films are two different mediums. A comics reader would probably be more open to a character like Rocket Raccoon because comic books have had some pretty crazy stuff, but a moviegoer watching a live-action film might be a harder sell on such a character because of a different level of suspension disbelief required.

That said, I kinda want to see a new Howard the Duck film made sometime, one closer in tone to the satirical nature of the original comics.

Feb 18, 2014#277

Covar

ScytheRexx said:
All I am saying is, having a talking raccoon shouldn't put people in disbelief. You can find it silly, because it pretty much is, but I think disbelief is the wrong word when the character comes from a universe with a talking duck.

Hell, they let Squirrel Girl punch Thanos in the dick, and she had two sidekick talking squirrels named "Monkey Joe" and "Tippy Toe".

You're using Squirrel Girl in a serious context, I'm automatically discarding your point.

Feb 18, 2014#278

filmfanatic

Covar said:
You're using Squirrel Girl in a serious context, I'm automatically discarding your point.

That, as well. Squirrel Girl's meant to be a fun, jokey throwback to the Silver Age.

Feb 18, 2014#279

evilmike

A preview for tonight's trailer

Feb 18, 2014#280

figmentPez

filmfanatic said:
That is the thing. Comics and live-action films are two different mediums. A comics reader would probably be more open to a character like Rocket Raccoon because comic books have had some pretty crazy stuff, but a moviegoer watching a live-action film might be a harder sell on such a character because of a different level of suspension disbelief required.

I don't think the conflict is that it's a live action movie, because Jim Carrey movies have contained elements every bit as ridiculous as a talking Raccoon, and many of those were box office successes. I think the problem is that Guardiands of the Galaxy is action, Sci-Fi and trying for a serious tone. The same problem would arise if you had any character who doesn't look like they're tough enough. Can you imagine pitching "The Expendables" if Peter Dinklage were going to be one of the headline actors?

Feb 18, 2014#281

ThatNickGuy

evilmike said:
A preview for tonight's trailer

[DOUBLEPOST=1392740056,1392739964][/DOUBLEPOST]

figmentPez said:
I don't think the conflict is that it's a live action movie, because Jim Carrey movies have contained elements every bit as ridiculous as a talking Raccoon, and many of those were box office successes. I think the problem is that Guardiands of the Galaxy is action, Sci-Fi and trying for a serious tone. The same problem would arise if you had any character who doesn't look like they're tough enough. Can you imagine pitching "The Expendables" if Peter Dinklage were going to be one of the headline actors?

I don't watch the show, but isn't he kind of badass in Game of Thrones? With the right context, Peter Dinklage could be badass.

And who ever said Guardians of the Galaxy had a 100% serious tone? It's got a raccoon and a tree as main characters for cripes sakes.

Feb 18, 2014#282

GasBandit

figmentPez said:
I don't think the conflict is that it's a live action movie, because Jim Carrey movies have contained elements every bit as ridiculous as a talking Raccoon, and many of those were box office successes. I think the problem is that Guardiands of the Galaxy is action, Sci-Fi and trying for a serious tone. The same problem would arise if you had any character who doesn't look like they're tough enough. Can you imagine pitching "The Expendables" if Peter Dinklage were going to be one of the headline actors?

Actually I think I'd pay to see that.

But I think, the comparison here should be, it'd be more along the lines of The Expendables with Peter Dinklage in an Ewok costume in the lead.

In a sci-fi action movie, even one based on a comic, for most moviegoers a talking anthropomorphic raccoon, especially one named "Rocket Raccoon," is going to just be beyond the pale for them and it will cause them to write off the movie as soon as they hear about it. Because they'll be thinking "Avengers Avengers Avengers" and then hear "talking raccoon" and then they'll grind "avengers" gears against "Over the Hedge Over the Hedge Over the Hedge."

I still say this movie is probably going to flop.

Feb 18, 2014#283

filmfanatic

ThatNickGuy said:
And who ever said Guardians of the Galaxy had a 100% serious tone? It's got a raccoon and a tree as main characters for cripes sakes.

That, and remember that James Gunn is writing and directing this. Considering his previous work, I'd expect him to not be totally serious and engage in some fun with the crazy that's there.

Feb 18, 2014#284

ThatNickGuy

GasBandit said:
I still say this movie is probably going to flop.

I don't know if it'll flop, but I'm worried it won't do gangbusters sales like some expect. I think it'll do well enough just for flying under the Marvel and Avengers banners. All they have to do is say, "From the studio that brought you The Avengers!" and that gets asses in seats.

Feb 18, 2014#285

Covar

evilmike said:
Here are a few screenshots courtesy of AICN:

I've been watching too much Parks and Recreation. I keep thinking "Burt Macklin, FBI"

Feb 18, 2014#286

figmentPez

ThatNickGuy said:
I don't watch the show, but isn't he kind of badass in Game of Thrones? With the right context, Peter Dinklage could be badass.

And who ever said Guardians of the Galaxy had a 100% serious tone? It's got a raccoon and a tree as main characters for cripes sakes.

Yes, I think Peter Dinklage would be pretty awesome in an Expendables movie, but put him alongside Stallone, Statham, Lundgren, etc. and you'd struggle to have him seen as anything but comic relief if it were the first movie and you're still selling the concept. Put him in the third, or fourth, movie, and you can use him to mix up expectations. Putting him in the first movie's trailers, however, would be a much more difficult sell.

I, personally, don't think that the movie should have a 100% serious tone, but movie audiences have a really strange relationship with SciFi, and the public doesn't react well to SciFi that mixes comedic elements into it's seriousness. Maybe it's too much association with B-movies, but it's hard to get audiences to see that comedic elements can work as well in SF as they do in buddy cop movies.

Feb 18, 2014#287

Ravenpoe

figmentPez said:
Can you imagine pitching "The Expendables" if Peter Dinklage were going to be one of the headline actors?

Fuck yeah I can imagine that, it'd be awesome.

Feb 18, 2014#288

Reverent-one

figmentPez said:
Yes, I think Peter Dinklage would be pretty awesome in an Expendables movie, but put him alongside Stallone, Statham, Lundgren, etc. and you'd struggle to have him seen as anything but comic relief if it were the first movie and you're still selling the concept. Put him in the third, or fourth, movie, and you can use him to mix up expectations. Putting him in the first movie's trailers, however, would be a much more difficult sell.

I, personally, don't think that the movie should have a 100% serious tone, but movie audiences have a really strange relationship with SciFi, and the public doesn't react well to SciFi that mixes comedic elements into it's seriousness. Maybe it's too much association with B-movies, but it's hard to get audiences to see that comedic elements can work as well in SF as they do in buddy cop movies.

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home? Galaxy Quest? And of course Men In Black was pretty much a sci-fi buddy cop movie. I mean, we can debate how comedic vs serious they are, but they're not Spaceballs level pure parody.

Feb 18, 2014#289

ThatNickGuy

Or how about The Fifth Element?

Hell, even Star Wars is pretty light-hearted. Sure, it has plenty of serious moments, but there are many comedic moments (usually from Han, Chewie, and the droids). I think that might be exactly what they're aiming at here: a fun, not too serious space romp. And I'm down for that.[DOUBLEPOST=1392743168,1392743125][/DOUBLEPOST]

Ravenpoe said:
Fuck yeah I can imagine that, it'd be awesome.

Peter Dinklage in The Expendables would certainly give me a reason to bother watching those crap movies. I've only seen the first one and couldn't be bothered with the others.

Feb 18, 2014#290

figmentPez

Reverent-one said:
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home? Galaxy Quest? And of course Men In Black was pretty much a sci-fi buddy cop movie. I mean, we can debate how comedic vs serious they are, but they're not Spaceballs level pure parody.

Star Trek was an established franchise, and survived a very bland first film, it's definitely an exception. Galaxy Quest was billed as mainly a parody of SciFi. Men in Black is actually a good example, though I think it's more the exception than the rule. If I had more time it'd be interesting to try to figure out why it worked, and audiences still bought into it.

I'm trying to find an example of a good SciFi movie that has an outlandish character like Rocket Raccoon... and I can't. I mean, there are crazy characters in Men in Black, but they're not the heroes, they're comic relief, and not taken seriously. Will Smith may be slapstick, but otherwise he's an action hero; strong, confident and handsome. Star Wars is the closest thing I can think of right now, with Yoda, but those movies were a surprise success, and Yoda wasn't part of selling the first movie.

Assuming that Guardians of the Galaxy is actually a good film, are there any close comparisons to be made?

Feb 18, 2014#291

ThatNickGuy

figmentPez said:
Assuming that Guardians of the Galaxy is actually a good film, are there any close comparisons to be made?

I mentioned Fifth Element above. That's probably closest to what we can expect, I think.

Something I just realized when I looked at the official team line-up picture: Rocket Raccoon is front and centre. I think that shows how much faith the studio has in him being the most popular character out of this. The strange thing is that aside from Dill (because you know, bias), I can't think of very many trigger happy anthropomorphic characters. ESPECIALLY in film. I mean yeah, Howard the Duck's anthropomorphic, but he's not this planet-saving badass.

Unlike Ewoks, Raccoon looks more badass than cute. In my opinion, anyway. And that's incredibly rare for what would normally be such a kid-friendly character.

Feb 18, 2014#292

GasBandit

ThatNickGuy said:
Unlike Ewoks, Raccoon looks more badass than cute. In my opinion, anyway. And that's incredibly rare for what would normally be such a kid-friendly character.

See, I look at it, and I just see yet another dreamworks face. Marketing always tries to put a "badass" slant on their characters. You know Rocket's a hardass, I know he's a hardass, but Joe Moviegoer who thinks the rest of us are (at least) kinda nerdy will see rocket and think this:

Look at him. Look at that raccoon we are to believe is a badass.

Feb 18, 2014#293

ThatNickGuy

GasBandit said:
See, I look at it, and I just see yet another dreamworks face. Marketing always tries to put a "badass" slant on their characters. You know Rocket's a hardass, I know he's a hardass, but Joe Moviegoer who thinks the rest of us are (at least) kinda nerdy will see rocket and think this:

Look at him. Look at that raccoon we are to believe is a badass.

Except the two pictures aren't similar at all. One is on a poster for an animated movie with a bunch of other animal critters. And he's wielding a giant wagon full of food. BADASS!

Feb 18, 2014#294

GasBandit

ThatNickGuy said:
Except the two pictures aren't similar at all. One is on a poster for an animated movie with a bunch of other animal critters. And he's wielding a giant wagon full of food. BADASS!

To Joe Sixpack on the street, there is no difference. Talking racoon here, talking racoon there. Dreamworks face. Judgement call made in less than half a second. The moviegoing public is not in a place where they can see/hear about a talking raccoon with attitude in a movie and not put it in that category.

Feb 18, 2014#295

Frank

Fruit. Fruit. Tits. Tits. Plant. PLANT.

It's the fookin' same!

Feb 18, 2014#296

figmentPez

ThatNickGuy said:
I mentioned Fifth Element above. That's probably closest to what we can expect, I think.

Which is a fair comparison in a lot of aspects. It did well at the box office, and the villains were plenty cartoony. The hero, however, was straight up Bruce Willis. While The Fifth Element does show that you can manage to sell a comedic Sci Fi movie, that still leaves the problem that I think it's really true that convincing an audience that a Raccoon can be a hero would be a lot easier in a Disney movie, a straight up fantasy movie, or a Sci Fi film being marketed as a comedy, than it will be to convince audiences of that in a Sci Fi action hero movie.

Feb 18, 2014#297

Ravenpoe

Frank said:
Fruit. Fruit. Tits. Tits. Plant. PLANT.

It's the fookin' same!

Except now Turnip's a vampire.

Feb 18, 2014#298

CynicismKills

The thing with GotG books is they're not all that serious most of the time either. Star Lord's kind of a smart-ass prick, Drax doesn't talk much, Groot is pompous, RR is like a haggard old war vet, and Gamora spends a lot of dialogue making fun of Star Lord. I think the only guys on the team that really even get along are RR and Groot.

Feb 18, 2014#299

GasBandit

One has to remember, this movie will be viewed and judged without the context of the comic book. It's not a top tier title (even arguable if it's a B-list title), so for most movie consumers it's exponentially more obscure, to the point of pretty much might as well having never existed in the first place, as far as they're concerned.

Feb 18, 2014#300

Tress

GasBandit said:
One has to remember, this movie will be viewed and judged without the context of the comic book. It's not a top tier title (even arguable if it's a B-list title), so for most movie consumers it's exponentially more obscure, to the point of pretty much might as well having never existed in the first place, as far as they're concerned.

This.

Don't bother talking about how weird the comic is, or how light/dark the comic is. No one will care outside of comic nerds, and they represent just a faction of the larger audience. Most people will see this, think "WTF?!", and skip it. Whatever happens in the comic or larger Marvel universe won't matter to most people.

Feb 18, 2014#301

klew

Is "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" a fair comparison? It made over $150 million in the US back in 1988, and with today's higher ticket prices and thousands of screens (is there 3D for this?), it's safe to say GotG could reach that in less than 3 weeks. Would Marvel Studios be happy with less than $200 million in the US? Replace detective story with sci-fi action, and the slapstick cartoon antics with modern snark and one-liners to pull in the people who loved that film; you've already got the comic and Marvel film fans.

Feb 18, 2014#302

Tress

My guess is less than $200 million would be considered a failure.

Feb 18, 2014#303

GasBandit

klew said:
Is "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" a fair comparison? It made over $150 million in the US back in 1988, and with today's higher ticket prices and thousands of screens (is there 3D for this?), it's safe to say GotG could reach that in less than 3 weeks. Would Marvel Studios be happy with less than $200 million in the US? Replace detective story with sci-fi action, and the slapstick cartoon antics with modern snark and one-liners to pull in the people who loved that film; you've already got the comic and Marvel film fans.

Who Framed Roger Rabbit was marketed as a kid's movie, and all the hype was built around the technological marvel of having cartoons interact with live actors. Nowadays we're not even impressed by good CGI any more - in fact, we expect it - take it for granted even, and "bad CGI" that would have been mindblowing 25 years ago is a major strike against a movie. They even had half hour "making of" specials running on network television in advance to pump it up to the people. That's not happening with GotG. It's being marketed as an action blockbuster a-la The Avengers with their own gun-toting Scrappy Doo. It's a question of "can the marketing convince dad's coworkers down at the office." It'd be a tall order to begin with, and I'm not sure they're doing so.

Feb 18, 2014#304

figmentPez

klew said:
Is "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" a fair comparison?

Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny appeared in the same movie. No, it's not a fair comparison at all. It's not a SciFi action drama. It's a slapstick comedy that is mostly a play on the film noir genre.

The closest analogues to Guardians of the Galaxy are all animated films. Titan A.E. and Rise of the Guardians are both closer than WFRR. Despite being an amazing film, Rise of the Guardians failed at the box office, probably in large part because people couldn't see past the goofiness of the concept; and it's an animated fantasy film, which I think is an easier sell for goofy concepts than SciFi action with a more realistic visual style.

Feb 18, 2014#305

GasBandit

figmentPez said:
Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny appeared in the same movie. No, it's not a fair comparison at all. It's not a SciFi action drama. It's a slapstick comedy that is mostly a play on the film noir genre.

The closest analogues to Guardians of the Galaxy are all animated films. Titan A.E. and Rise of the Guardians are both closer than WFRR. Despite being an amazing film, Rise of the Guardians failed at the box office, probably in large part because people couldn't see past the goofiness of the concept; and it's an animated fantasy film, which I think is an easier sell for goofy concepts than SciFi action with a more realistic visual style.

That's a really good comparison and salient point.

Feb 18, 2014#306

Reverent-one

GasBandit said:
It's a question of "can the marketing convince dad's coworkers down at the office." It'd be a tall order to begin with, and I'm not sure they're doing so.

Well, they're certainly not doing so right now, but then, they also haven't begun any real marketing push yet. It's hard to judge how successful their marketing is going to be without knowning what they're doing for it. A month or two from now, when there's actually been something (assuming they don't just release the trailer tonight and that's it), it'll be another matter.

Feb 18, 2014#307

CynicismKills

I think what's most confusing about this movie's release is the absolute lack of marketing push. Usually you can't get away from Marvel movie ads, especially online, but this one's barely been a blip on the radar. It makes me think Ant Man's marketing is going to be pretty lackluster as well.

Feb 18, 2014#308

bhamv3

Another problem is that GotG is a MCU film, ostensibly in the same universe as all the other MCU films. The contrast in tone is massive. Imagine Captain America fighting the Nazis alongside a raccoon.

Feb 18, 2014#309

Far

bhamv3 said:
Another problem is that GotG is a MCU film, ostensibly in the same universe as all the other MCU films. The contrast in tone is massive. Imagine Captain America fighting the Nazis alongside a raccoon.

This is legitimately why I'm excited. I won't say that the marvel movies have gotten bad, because that would be a bald faced lie, but they have felt pretty by the numbers for awhile now. I'm hoping Guardians has enough to breath some new life into them.

Feb 18, 2014#310

Reverent-one

bhamv3 said:
Another problem is that GotG is a MCU film, ostensibly in the same universe as all the other MCU films. The contrast in tone is massive. Imagine Captain America fighting the Nazis alongside a raccoon.

Yeah, that would be like having a WWII supersoldier, guy in powered armor, Norse god, and giant green rage monster fighting against an army of aliens led by another Norse god. Who'd watch that?

Feb 18, 2014#311

bhamv3

Reverent-one said:
Yeah, that would be like having a WWII supersoldier, guy in powered armor, Norse god, and giant green rage monster fighting against an army of aliens led by another Norse god. Who'd watch that?

True, true.

Still though... a raccoon...

Feb 18, 2014#312

Ravenpoe

A comic book movie with anthropomorphic talking animals in it?!

Feb 18, 2014#313

Bowielee

Ravenpoe said:
A comic book movie with anthropomorphic talking animals in it?!

Which was for quite some time the highest grossing non-studio film of all time.

HOWEVER, it also had the strength of being tied to an insanely popular franchise at the time.

Like other people have said, the lack of marketing this close to premier is troubling. It shows an extreme lack of faith from the studio.

Feb 18, 2014#314

figmentPez

bhamv3 said:
Another problem is that GotG is a MCU film, ostensibly in the same universe as all the other MCU films. The contrast in tone is massive. Imagine Captain America fighting the Nazis alongside a raccoon.

Stranger than Iron Man fighting Extremis goons alongside a 10 year-old?

Feb 18, 2014#315

bhamv3

figmentPez said:
Stranger than Iron Man fighting Extremis goons alongside a 10 year-old?

Perhaps not, indeed!

Still though... a raccoon...

Feb 18, 2014#316

Shawn

I can't wait for someone to take a bunch of clips of Rocket Racoon, and combine it with the intro music for The Racoons.

Feb 18, 2014#317

checkeredhat

Shawnacy said:
I can't wait for someone to take a bunch of clips of Rocket Racoon, and combine it with the intro music for The Racoons.

I thought the Raccoons was more or less unknown outside Canada.

Feb 18, 2014#318

Shawn

checkeredhat said:
I thought the Raccoons was more or less unknown outside Canada.

Screw that. I was one of those lucky kids who's parents subscribed to the Disney Channel before it sucked.

Feb 18, 2014#319

MindDetective

I know nothing about GotG. An anthropomorphic badass raccoon doesn't sound problematic to me. That's not to say it won't be silly. I don't think it has to be by default.

Feb 18, 2014#320

GasBandit

Yes, a 10 year old is more believable than a talking, gun-toting raccoon.

Feb 18, 2014#321

ScytheRexx

I think people got a little caught up in my silly references to Squirrel Girl and Howard the Duck that my overall point was lost. So I will be blunt.

The marvel universe is full of utter wacky insanity. I don't have issues believing a raccoon with guns is part of a space crime fighting force because this is the same universe with a silver guy that rides a surf board through space.

Do I think general movie-going john and jane will be turned off by someone like Rocket Raccoon? Who knows. Anthropomorphic characters have had hits and misses since cinema began. I honestly don't think RR will break this movie more then the shitty marketing or if the story blows chunks.

Feb 18, 2014#322

evilmike

Feb 18, 2014#323

sixpackshaker

What a bunch of A-holes.

Feb 18, 2014#324

GasBandit

ScytheRexx said:
I think people got a little caught up in my silly references to Squirrel Girl and Howard the Duck that my overall point was lost. So I will be blunt.

The marvel universe is full of utter wacky insanity. I don't have issues believing a raccoon with guns is part of a space crime fighting force because this is the same universe with a silver guy that rides a surf board through space.

Do I think general movie-going john and jane will be turned off by someone like Rocket Raccoon? Who knows. Anthropomorphic characters have had hits and misses since cinema began. I honestly don't think RR will break this movie more then the shitty marketing or if the story blows chunks.

Your point wasn't lost, the counter point that was made was, as far as movie sales go, the comics (and therefor the "marvel universe") are irrelevant and might as well not even exist.

Edit - ok, I watched the trailer. I liked that they were very self-effacing about how dumb a name "Star Lord" is, and downplayed Rocket a little. And yes, the A-holes line was good. We'll see what happens.

Feb 18, 2014#325

ThatNickGuy

As I said, I think the strongest point in its favour is flying under the Marvel/Avengers banner. That alone gives me hope it'll do better than, say, Pacific Rim

On the bright side, however it sells over here, you can guaran-damn-tee it'll sell like gangbusters in China and Japan. They love weird shit.

Also, if this trailer doesn't tell you that this movie is totally a fun, light-hearted sci-fi romp then I don't know what to tell you. The Star Lord stuff with "Obscene Gesture Alert" alone should've sold it for you.

Feb 18, 2014#326

sixpackshaker

I will say that Rocket is the only character in this group that I have 'heard' of before the movie was announced. He is 40ish after all.

Feb 18, 2014#327

ScytheRexx

evilmike said:

Feb 18, 2014#328

Reverent-one

So it's just the trailer they showed at Comic-con then, that's a bit disappointing. Nice to see in full quality, sure, but still. Starlord comes off as more typical "Chris Pratt lovable oaf" in attitude than really fits the character, but we'll see how that holds over the whole movie.

Feb 18, 2014#329

checkeredhat

What I'm seeing in this thread is basically these three endlessly looping conversations of confusion, which have by now merged into one giant mecha confusing endlessly looping conversation.

"I won't watch this movie because it looks kind of silly."
"But it's supposed to be kind of silly."
"How can I take it seriously when it looks so silly?!"
"But it's supposed to be silly. You aren't supposed to take it seriously."
"But the general public won't ever take something so silly seriously."

"I don't think this movie will do very well, they aren't promoting it well enough, and its a kind of silly universe for joe shmo outsiders to get into."
"Whaaaaaaaat? I'm super excited for this movie."
"You are not the joe shmo outsider to the universe I am referring to."
"But I'm going to see it."
"But unless they pick up their advertising, many won't"
"But I just told you I am"
"But you aren't many"
"But... I'm GOING."

"Aw man, Rocket Raccoon, Fuck yeah!"
"The movie going public will never pay to go see a movie with a rocket toting raccoon."
"What? I never said anything about the movie going public. I am looking forward to it for these reasons [x,y,z reasons]"
"The movie going public doesn't care about [x,y,z]"
"Well I'm going to see it because it looks fun, and I like Rocket Raccoon"
"Well the movie going public won't"

Feb 18, 2014#330

Far

I liked this response from reddit:

Was hoping for to hear Rocket speak though.

Feb 18, 2014#331

Ravenpoe

evilmike said:

Feb 18, 2014#332

ThatNickGuy

Ladies and gentlemen, Karen Gillan...

as Nebula!

Feb 18, 2014#333

Bowielee

Yup, I am now officially looking forward to the movie.

Feb 18, 2014#334

ScytheRexx

Very happy they went with the "Genetically Modified" angle for RR rather then making him an alien.

Feb 18, 2014#335

Far

"Has a tendency to bite"

Feb 18, 2014#336

Ravenpoe

ThatNickGuy said:
Ladies and gentlemen, Karen Gillan...

as Nebula!

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Goddamn... I'm scared.

Feb 18, 2014#337

filmfanatic

evilmike said:

Burt Macklin, you son of a bitch!

Feb 18, 2014#338

checkeredhat

So yeah I still know next to nothing about this series except what the trailer has revealed to me, and I'm still in.

Feb 18, 2014#339

bhamv3

I think the trailer gave me a better idea of what to expect from this movie. I am now going from "might see this movie" to "will probably see this movie, maybe on DVD after it comes out."

Still though... a raccoon...

Feb 18, 2014#340

ThatNickGuy

GasBandit said:
Edit - ok, I watched the trailer. I liked that they were very self-effacing about how dumb a name "Star Lord" is, and downplayed Rocket a little. And yes, the A-holes line was good. We'll see what happens.

The trailer was really played up for non-nerds, I think. Having them in a police line-up is a perfect excuse to introduce each super-obscure character. They have the tone right, too, in that they really are kind of a bunch of a-holes. That works perfectly with the underdog feeling that comic has, so it looks like the movie is making all the smart marketing decisions there.

Feb 19, 2014#341

CynicismKills

Man, that trailer was great. Would have liked to hear the rest of the team interact a bit, but all in all

Feb 19, 2014#342

Frank

Shawnacy said:
Screw that. I was one of those lucky kids who's parents subscribed to the Disney Channel before it sucked.

Have you seen The Raccoons and the Lost Star? It's seriously one of the most surreal kids movies ever made.

Feb 19, 2014#343

Frank

Shawnacy said:
I can't wait for someone to take a bunch of clips of Rocket Racoon, and combine it with the intro music for The Racoons.

checkeredhat said:
I thought the Raccoons was more or less unknown outside Canada.

When people think of the Raccoons, it's invariably this song that comes to mind:

Feb 19, 2014#344

Shawn

Frank said:
Have you seen The Raccoons and the Lost Star? It's seriously one of the most surreal kids movies ever made.

I have... in chunks, over the course of the years. It's one of those specials that has been hard to track down. Never found it on youtube, or for sale. And don't turn me towards questionably legal options because I won't click.
I do remember a music episode however where they had a bunch of clips from the Lost Star and a few of the other specials edited together for some music videos.

Feb 19, 2014#345

Gilgamesh

Finally, a solid marketing team. Let's see them ramp this up to 12 till release and we'll be in solid.
We need Happy Meals and kids toys stat. For the love of fuck, they better not do a delay on the release while the marketing blows up either.

That trailer though:

Feb 19, 2014#346

CynicismKills

Hopefully we get a longer trailer with Cap 2, maybe with more focus on the rest of the team.

Feb 19, 2014#347

checkeredhat

"Hooked On a Feeling" has been stuck in my head all day.

Feb 19, 2014#348

CynicismKills

checkeredhat said:
"Hooked On a Feeling" has been stuck in my head all day.

OOGA CHAKA

OOGA OOGA

Me too

OOGA CHAKA

Feb 19, 2014#349

figmentPez

Source

Feb 19, 2014#350

ThatNickGuy

CynicismKills said:
Hopefully we get a longer trailer with Cap 2, maybe with more focus on the rest of the team.

Unlikely. They'll probably just use the same one.

Feb 19, 2014#351

Shawn

With Rocket being voiced by Bradley Cooper I'm honestly surprised they didn't give him a single line.

Feb 19, 2014#352

Shakey

It's a good intro to the movie. It doesn't really say much about what it's about, but I'm sure that's to come.

Feb 20, 2014#353

Covar

http://comicsalliance.com/guardians...easter-eggs-things-we-learned-marvel-studios/

Feb 20, 2014#354

Fun Size

I wanted to see this before based on the buzz. Now I want to see it even more.

Also, since six months ago, my local library network has picked up four volumes of Guardians of the Galaxy, all of which are currently out or on hold, so I'm taking this to mean others are also interested in reading about it now.

Feb 20, 2014#355

ThatNickGuy

Pro: No cutsey Smurf voice.
Con: No cockney accent.

Feb 20, 2014#356

sixpackshaker

Do you ever get the feeling that the reason Marvel has not put out much promotional material yet, is that they are behind schedule?

Feb 20, 2014#357

filmfanatic

Here's more videos regarding the other members of the team.

Feb 20, 2014#358

Frank

The Kree look really cool. Well, the one Kree they keep showing. With Ronan being the bad guy hopefully she's a Kree.

Feb 20, 2014#359

filmfanatic

Frank said:
The Kree look really cool. Well, the one Kree they keep showing. With Ronan being the bad guy hopefully she's a Kree.

Fun fact: according to James Gunn, Marvel apparently only partially owns the film rights to the Skrulls and definitely doesn't own the film rights to the Badoon. So, neither alien race will turn up in the film. Apparently the Sakaaran will be showing up in this, however.

Feb 20, 2014#360

ThatNickGuy

Frank said:
The Kree look really cool. Well, the one Kree they keep showing. With Ronan being the bad guy hopefully she's a Kree.

I just realized something: there will very likely be people who are offended that the "evil aliens" in this are called The Kree. Specifically, Native Americans.

Obviously, this is a ridiculous connection, but it wouldn't surprise me. There were groups, after all, angry about Idris Elba playing a Norse god, while another group petitioned a name change for Lord of the Rings: Two Towers because they believed it was purposely called that to make money from 9/11.

Feb 20, 2014#361

Frank

Yeah, the Skrulls went with the Fantastic Four rights, I know that.[DOUBLEPOST=1392935547,1392935480][/DOUBLEPOST]

ThatNickGuy said:
I just realized something: there will very likely be people who are offended that the "evil aliens" in this are called The Kree. Specifically, Native Americans.

Obviously, this is a ridiculous connection, but it wouldn't surprise me. There were groups, after all, angry about Idris Elba playing a Norse god, while another group petitioned a name change for Lord of the Rings: Two Towers because they believed it was purposely called that to make money from 9/11.

I'm part Cree and I don't think any right minded Cree would care.

Feb 20, 2014#362

ThatNickGuy

Frank said:
I'm part Cree and I don't think any right minded Cree would care.

Key words, there. Right minded people woudln't get offended by trivial stuff like that. But it wouldn't surprise me if we hear something like this once the movie comes out.

Probably from Fox News.

Feb 20, 2014#363

Frank

ThatNickGuy said:
Key words, there. Right minded people woudln't get offended by trivial stuff like that. But it wouldn't surprise me if we hear something like this once the movie comes out.

Probably from Fox News.

Cree are almost entirely Canadian, Fox won't care.

Feb 20, 2014#364

Gilgamesh

Fox doesn't know the difference between Cree and other types of native Americans.

Feb 20, 2014#365

ThatNickGuy

Gilgamesh said:
Fox doesn't know the difference between Cree and other types of native Americans.

To Fox, they're all just Un-American foreigners taking all our jobs.
(Good lord, I think I just killed brain cells writing that.)

Feb 20, 2014#366

Gryfter

Looks like a fun ride, I will see it.

Feb 20, 2014#367

filmfanatic

They have now released a poster:

Feb 20, 2014#368

Cheesy1

The image doesn't show. I'll put it up here:

Feb 20, 2014#369

filmfanatic

Thanks. It looks like the marketing is playing up the fact that the general audience will have no idea who the Guardians of the Galaxy are.

Feb 20, 2014#370

GasBandit

filmfanatic said:
Thanks. It looks like the marketing is playing up the fact that the general audience will have no idea who the Guardians of the Galaxy are.

That's the smart thing to do, IMO. Hanging the lampshade is almost always successful.

Feb 20, 2014#371

HCGLNS

Well the movie going audience has next to no knowledge of any comic book characters, so you have to sell it based on a theme or by star power.

Now Burt Macklin FBI, that name has some star power!

Feb 20, 2014#372

bhamv3

Why is Zoe Saldana's butt not facing the audience? I thought that was required for comic book movie posters?

Feb 20, 2014#373

Steve

I'm really excited to see this movie. I have watched the trailer a dozen times. Great job at introducing the main players and showing the tone of the film which appears to be light hearted. I wish we'd see another trailer for X-Men DOFP. When both projects were announced I was more excited for DOFP but seeing the trailers for both that excitement has shifted to GotG.

Feb 20, 2014#374

filmfanatic

HCGLNS said:
Well the movie going audience has next to no knowledge of any comic book characters, so you have to sell it based on a theme or by star power.

Now Burt Macklin FBI, that name has some star power!

You thought I was dead. So did Rocket Raccoon...'s enemies.

Feb 21, 2014#375

filmfanatic

Feb 21, 2014#376

Espy

I hate to say it but they need to play up Bradley Cooper doing RR's voice. There's your name recognition.

Feb 21, 2014#377

CynicismKills

Espy said:
I hate to say it but they need to play up Bradley Cooper doing RR's voice. There's your name recognition.

They've really got an actor for everyone in this movie. Karen Gillian for the Doctor Who fans, Bradley Cooper for the average moviegoer, Vin Diesel for the action (and geek) crowds, etc etc.

Feb 21, 2014#378

Reverent-one

Sales of "Hooked on a Feeling" skyrocket after the GoTG trailer releases.

Feb 21, 2014#379

ThatNickGuy

Reverent-one said:
Sales of "Hooked on a Feeling" skyrocket after the GoTG trailer releases.

I came for the oogas, but stayed for the chuckas.

Feb 21, 2014#380

GasBandit

Feb 21, 2014#381

Bowielee

GasBandit said:

This is still what pops into my head every time I hear that song.

And I barely even watched Ally McBeal.

Feb 21, 2014#382

HCGLNS

Really? Not the David Hasselhoff version? It was Gangnam Style long before Gangnam Style.

Feb 21, 2014#383

GasBandit

Bowielee said:
This is still what pops into my head every time I hear that song.

And I barely even watched Ally McBeal.

It might be because it was one of the first internet memes, and the Ally McBeal show just appropriated it.

Feb 21, 2014#384

ThatNickGuy

Bowielee said:
And I barely even watched Ally McBeal.

Ugh, I did, but not my choice. When I lived with my sister for awhile, she watched it every Monday evening back when it was on. Unfortunately, its running time cut into the first half hour of Monday Night RAW. As a HUGE wrestling fan at the time, during a boom in the wrestling business (fall of 1999), this was aggravating.

Feb 21, 2014#385

HCGLNS

mmmmmmm Courtney Thorne-Smith!

Also;

Feb 22, 2014#386

checkeredhat

For me the Ooga Chukka part just makes me think of the Offspring's "Special Delivery". That song was on repeat in my CD player for a good chunk of grade 9. That whole CD was my own personal soundtrack to Rollcage for Playstation 1, because nuts to the actual soundtrack of that game.

So I wish it were the Ooga Chukka part I was getting stuck in my head. But instead I'm getting the first verse playing over and over again in my head with the first two lines of the chorus because I don't know the lyrics to the rest of the song.
My head just keeps going

I can't stop this feeling
Deep inside of me
Girl, you just don't realize
What you do to me

I'm hooked on a feeling
I'm high on believing....

I'm hooked on a feeling
I'm high on believing....

I'm hooked on a feeling
I'm high on believing....

Feb 24, 2014#387

GasBandit

Mar 8, 2014#388

checkeredhat

A lengthy interview with Chris Pratt, James Gunn and Kevin Feige (Skip ahead to 40sec):

Mar 11, 2014#389

GasBandit

New Footage Leaked! Spoilered for possible spoiler.

Mar 11, 2014#390

bhamv3

GasBandit said:
New Footage Leaked! Spoilered for possible spoiler.

I'm speechless at how far CG graphics have come.

Mar 12, 2014#391

Just Me

bhamv3 said:
I'm speechless at how far CG graphics have come.

Talk about showing my gf The Last Starfighter just last week to 'show off' its CG for comparison...

Apr 1, 2014#392

BananaHands

~~"My Name is Groot!" - First Clip of Groot's Voice!~~
EDIT: Sorry for the April fools guys!

Apr 1, 2014#393

CynicismKills

BananaHands said:
"My Name is Groot!" - First Clip of Groot's Voice!

UNF.

Apr 1, 2014#394

GasBandit

Apr 1, 2014#395

checkeredhat

That was unkind.

Apr 1, 2014#396

phil

BananaHands said:
"My Name is Groot!" - First Clip of Groot's Voice!

UNF.

Apr 1, 2014#397

bhamv3

BananaHands said:
"My Name is Groot!" - First Clip of Groot's Voice!

UNF.

Wow, that was... kinda weird. Though in a good way, I think. Vin Diesel's voice is almost unrecognizable, probably due to all the post processing they've done to it, but you can still sort of recognize it's him through the inflections.

Also, who was that girl he was talking to? I don't think she was in the trailers, though granted we didn't really see a good shot of her face. Minor throwaway character, or major surprise they haven't revealed yet? Would be awesome if it's intended to be Janet Van Dyne, to tie in with the Ant-Man movie.

Apr 2, 2014#398

BananaHands

Sorry guys.

I might have actually done some damage there.

Apr 7, 2014#399

filmfanatic

Huh. Looks like Nathan Fillion has a part in Guardians of the Galaxy.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=116899

Apr 8, 2014#400

Espy

filmfanatic said:
Huh. Looks like Nathan Fillion has a part in Guardians of the Galaxy.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=116899

I really hope it's just a random shot of Mal or the crew of Serenity sitting in a bar. Like just for 5 seconds. Camera can pass them by and thats it. Bam.

Apr 8, 2014#401

ThatNickGuy

The two women in the movie training before filming.

Spoilered for DAT ASS.

Apr 8, 2014#402

Frank

Broken link dude!

Apr 8, 2014#403

ThatNickGuy

Frank said:
Broken link dude!

Still shows fine for me. Here's the source:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/04...-guardians-of-the-galaxy-fight-choreography‏/

Apr 8, 2014#404

GasBandit

ThatNickGuy said:
Still shows fine for me. Here's the source:
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/04/08/zoe-saldana-and-karen-gillan-face-off-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-fight-choreography‏/

It shows fine for you because it's in your cache. Your browser checks your cache before actually retrieving the media in question. That way, the site's hotlink protection never comes into play.

For everybody else, you can usually overcome this by simply right-clicking the broken image and saying "view image in new tab." That removes the referral code, which in turn gets you past the hotlink protection in 90% of cases.

Apr 8, 2014#405

CynicismKills

More fight scenes? More Gamora? More Nebula? Possible Mal cameo (even if he's just sitting at a bar in the background)?

Man, this movie is going to be awesome.

Apr 8, 2014#406

Frank

GasBandit said:
It shows fine for you because it's in your cache. Your browser checks your cache before actually retrieving the media in question. That way, the site's hotlink protection never comes into play.

For everybody else, you can usually overcome this by simply right-clicking the broken image and saying "view image in new tab." That removes the referral code, which in turn gets you past the hotlink protection in 90% of cases.

On this one it gives a forbidden page.

Apr 8, 2014#407

ThatNickGuy

GasBandit said:
It shows fine for you because it's in your cache. Your browser checks your cache before actually retrieving the media in question. That way, the site's hotlink protection never comes into play.

For everybody else, you can usually overcome this by simply right-clicking the broken image and saying "view image in new tab." That removes the referral code, which in turn gets you past the hotlink protection in 90% of cases.

Kay, tried that. Fixed, I think. Too much discussion on the link fix for a harmless little pic.

Apr 8, 2014#408

GasBandit

Frank said:
On this one it gives a forbidden page.

Odd. What can I say... it usually works, and did work for me this time. Might depend on the browser.

Apr 8, 2014#409

Ravenpoe

GasBandit said:
Odd. What can I say... it usually works, and did work for me this time. Might depend on the browser.

Forbidden page for me as well. Going to home domain and then following image address worked, though.

Apr 8, 2014#410

HCGLNS

Spidey Senses tingling! Epic tush not available to common viewers?!

Have no fear Webslingers! Your friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man is here to save the day!

Apr 29, 2014#411

evilmike

It sounds like we should be getting the second trailer soon.

In the meantime, here is a new screenshot of Nebula:

Apr 29, 2014#412

BananaHands

evilmike said:
It sounds like we should be getting the second trailer soon.

In the meantime, here is a new screenshot of Nebula:

Apr 29, 2014#413

sixpackshaker

I hope this role makes her career. I'd hate to think she shaved off all that wonderful hair for nothing.

Apr 29, 2014#414

Celt Z

BananaHands said:

You would think he would like her MORE like that. She looks like a living TARDIS.

Apr 29, 2014#415

evilmike

Celt Z said:
You would think he would like her MORE like that. She looks like a living TARDIS.

Maybe that is his "I have the weirdest boner right now" face?

Apr 29, 2014#416

Celt Z

evilmike said:
Maybe that is his "I have the weirdest boner right now" face?

Apr 29, 2014#417

GasBandit

I couldn't decide which to use, so...

Apr 29, 2014#418

evilmike

GasBandit said:
I couldn't decide which to use, so...

View attachment 14730

The most disturbing part of that whole presentation is how it shows that Arnim Zola was apparently once a little girl...

May 16, 2014#419

Cheesy1

May 16, 2014#420

CynicismKills

Also, new trailer on Monday.

May 16, 2014#421

ThatNickGuy

Man, that's a very Star Wars-y poster. I love it.

May 16, 2014#422

Bowielee

I've decided that I'm going to try to avoid everything that I can about this movie going forward. I want to view it relatively clean from expectations and hype.

That being said, I'm reading the hell out of the comic now that I finished Annihilation and Conquest.

May 17, 2014#423

checkeredhat

Cheesy1 said:
View attachment 14826

Very Star Wars-y, which I like. I like the other poster a little better, with the neat pulp-y sci fi book cover look to it, and the incredibly ballsy tagline "you're welcome". But I like that one way or another, they are not doing the incredibly boring floating head movie poster design of modern movies.

Aside from the new trailer on Monday, there is also going to be a live Q&A session apparently.

May 17, 2014#424

Espy

Good poster but it should have been painted, Drew Struzen style.

May 19, 2014#425

CynicismKills

NO WORDS, SHOULD HAVE SENT A POET

May 19, 2014#426

Frank

So in.

May 19, 2014#427

GasBandit

I have to admit they're marketing better than I thought they would. Maybe it won't be a complete flop after all.

May 19, 2014#428

checkeredhat

August needs to hurry up and get here.

May 19, 2014#429

Gryfter

Sold!

May 19, 2014#430

Ravenpoe

I'M THROWING MONEY AT MY SCREEN, BUT IT WON'T GIVE ME MOVIE TICKETS

May 19, 2014#431

filmfanatic

Ravenpoe said:
I'M THROWING MONEY AT MY SCREEN, BUT IT WON'T GIVE ME MOVIE TICKETS

THROW HARDER! I THINK I SAW A MESSAGE FROM FANDANGO POP UP!

May 19, 2014#432

Far

Stole this from reddit but the comment was "I like this scene of Starlord breaking Rocket out of prison."

May 19, 2014#433

ThatNickGuy

Since it seems the video @CynicismKills posted is kaput, here's another of the same.

Yeah, it looks like twenty flavours of awesome. Not sure about Cooper's voice for Rocket, since previous voices had him with an Australian-like accent, but that's a minor nitpick at most. The trailer also distinctly lacked in the Ooga Chucka department, but it's still awesome.

May 19, 2014#434

Far

ThatNickGuy said:
The trailer also distinctly lacked in the Ooga Chucka department, but it's still awesome.

Yeah but "Spirit in the Sky"!

May 21, 2014#435

evilmike

New Poster

(via FBTB)

May 21, 2014#436

checkeredhat

evilmike said:
New Poster

(via FBTB)

Cheesy posted it on Friday.

Cheesy1 said:
View attachment 14826

May 21, 2014#437

evilmike

checkeredhat said:
Cheesy posted it on Friday.

Oops. I'm still playing catchup after my trip.

May 26, 2014#438

filmfanatic

May 26, 2014#439

CynicismKills

Uh, okay.

May 26, 2014#440

Ravenpoe

filmfanatic said:

Everything needs more Nick Offerman.

May 26, 2014#441

Gusto

My body is ready.

May 30, 2014#442

filmfanatic

Ladies and gentlemen, we have our Thanos. Josh Brolin will be playing him.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=118979

May 30, 2014#443

GasBandit

Ha, does that mean Kerri Green will play death?

May 30, 2014#444

Gryfter

filmfanatic said:
Ladies and gentlemen, we have our Thanos. Josh Brolin will be playing him.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=118979

I am completely okay with that casting.

May 30, 2014#445

ThatNickGuy

*nods agreeably* Yep.

May 30, 2014#446

CynicismKills

Apparently it's a year-ish old, but found this concept art floating around on /co/.

Jun 11, 2014#447

evilmike

Character posters (via Den of Geek 1,2)

Jun 11, 2014#448

Covar

Someone get a Hawkeye initiative version of that Drax poster stat.

Jun 12, 2014#449

Null

Covar said:
Someone get a Hawkeye initiative version of that Drax poster stat.

I thought the Hawkeye Initiative was to highlight the ridiculous poses that female characters are put into, to illustrate how silly they would look for male characters (usually Hawkeye). Since Drax is male, how would that work?

Jun 12, 2014#450

GasBandit

I think he just meant to Rule 63 it.

Jun 12, 2014#451

Covar

I'm making fun because Drax is toppless with his ass towards the camera .

Jun 12, 2014#452

BananaHands

Covar said:
I'm making fun because Drax is toppless with his ass towards the camera .

If only it were Groot in this pose... ;_;

Jun 12, 2014#453

Covar

BananaHands said:
If only it were Groot in this pose... ;_;

Jun 12, 2014#454

GasBandit

Man, Groot's totally naked and full frontal. What more you want?

Jun 12, 2014#455

Fun Size

Whatever. They still use cropped shots to hide his root.

Jun 12, 2014#456

GasBandit

Fun Size said:
Whatever. They still use cropped shots to hide his root.

http://oglaf.com/stamen/

Jun 12, 2014#457

Just Me

GasBandit said:
http://oglaf.com/stamen/

Dang, ninja'd

Jun 12, 2014#458

Null

BananaHands said:
If only it were Groot in this pose... ;_;

Someone's got wood.

Jun 12, 2014#459

Celt Z

You guys are nicer than me. I hear "tree sex" and this is the first thing I think of.

Jun 17, 2014#460

evilmike

Another new trailer

Jun 18, 2014#461

checkeredhat

Can't wait.

Jun 18, 2014#462

ThatNickGuy

Not enough ooga chucka.

Jun 18, 2014#463

Shakey

That trailer will get people who had no idea what gotg was before in the seats. Very well done.

Jun 19, 2014#464

GasBandit

Bad timing on my part to have started watching Parks and Recreation recently. Now I can't see Starlord as anything but Andy.

Jun 19, 2014#465

evilmike

GasBandit said:
Bad timing on my part to have started watching Parks and Recreation recently. Now I can't see Starlord as anything but Andy.

Maybe that's the problem Korath has in the trailers.

Jun 19, 2014#466

Ravenpoe

GasBandit said:
Bad timing on my part to have started watching Parks and Recreation recently. Now I can't see Starlord as anything but Andy.

I can't help but see...

Jun 19, 2014#467

Covar

GasBandit said:
Bad timing on my part to have started watching Parks and Recreation recently. Now I can't see Starlord as anything but Andy.

Reposting this here for you.

Jun 19, 2014#468

IronBrig4

It looks like we'll have a new superhero in this movie aside from the Guardians. Blue blazes!

http://www.thehollywoodnews.com/201...he-galaxy-end-credit-scene-possible-spoilers/

Jun 20, 2014#469

Celt Z

Ravenpoe said:
I can't help but see...

Could be worse...

Jun 20, 2014#470

GasBandit

Well, I guess it's nice to see someone typecast as a goofball (and only a goofball) get so much work.

Jun 20, 2014#471

Ravenpoe

Celt Z said:
Could be AWESOME...

View attachment 15124

FTFY

Jun 20, 2014#472

evilmike

Celt Z said:
Could be worse...

View attachment 15124

I fail to see how adding Lego to anything would make it worse...

Besides, think of the crossovers:

Jun 20, 2014#473

GasBandit

Holy useless decorative winglets, batman.

Jun 20, 2014#474

Celt Z

"Everything is Nova! Ev'rything is cool when you guard the galaxy!" :notes:

Jun 20, 2014#475

Covar

GasBandit said:
Well, I guess it's nice to see someone typecast as a goofball (and only a goofball) get so much work.

Apparently he's in Zero Dark Thirty. Which seems so odd to me. That said I love Andy so seeing Chris Pratt in anything makes me happy.

Jun 20, 2014#476

ThatNickGuy

GasBandit said:
Holy useless decorative winglets, batman.

They're speed winglets. They make the ship go faster.

Jun 20, 2014#477

GasBandit

ThatNickGuy said:
They're speed winglets. They make the ship go faster.

The stripe is the wrong color then. Every git knows its da red wuns dat go fasta.

Jun 20, 2014#478

AshburnerX

Maybe they are for atmospheric flight and they fan out to give it more lift for turning?

Jun 20, 2014#479

Null

AshburnerX said:
Maybe they are for atmospheric flight and they fan out to give it more lift for turning?

It does look pretty agile. They're probably both directional thrusters for fine maneuvering in space and control surfaces for atmospheric flight.

Jun 20, 2014#480

GasBandit

(hikes up his waistband)

Well let me tell you fellas somethin, I've built a kerbal spaceplane or two in my day, and that's not how you do atmospheric flight! Putting all the winglets at the very back, well behind the center of mass, is just a recipe for nosing into the dirt as hard as possible.

Hhyyyeep. Yep yep yep.

Jun 20, 2014#481

AshburnerX

GasBandit said:
(hikes up his waistband)

Well let me tell you fellas somethin, I've built a kerbal spaceplane or two in my day, and that's not how you do atmospheric flight! Putting all the winglets at the very back, well behind the center of mass, is just a recipe for nosing into the dirt as hard as possible.

Hhyyyeep. Yep yep yep.

I'm assuming the ship has some sort of lift generator that lets it fly already... but at high speed, unless you are using jets to turn it, you'd need the winglets in an atmosphere.

Or they could just be decorative because everyone needs to be able to tell between make and manufacturer at a glance when identifying if a target is one of yours or not.

Jun 20, 2014#482

CynicismKills

Shut up, it looks cool.

That's why they're there.

Jun 21, 2014#483

HCGLNS

The guy from Castle to play Nova

http://aggressivecomix.com/2014/06/marvel-cinematic-universe-gains-fillion/

Jun 21, 2014#484

Ravenpoe

HCGLNS said:
The guy from Castle to play Nova

http://aggressivecomix.com/2014/06/marvel-cinematic-universe-gains-fillion/

....

I...

oh...

oooohhhhh...

Hoo... wow... sorry about that. I um... I'm going to need to go change.

Jun 21, 2014#485

Celt Z

Niiiiiiiice.

Jun 21, 2014#486

ThatNickGuy

YES.

Hang on. That's not a proper enough yes to get my point across.

YES.

Jun 21, 2014#487

checkeredhat

oh man I hope that's true.

Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk

Jun 21, 2014#488

Espy

That would be amazing and totally not surprising given his connections with James Gunn.

Jun 21, 2014#489

ScytheRexx

Sorry guys.

The rumors of my pal @NathanFillion playing Nova in #guardiansofthegalaxy have been greatly (and entirely) exaggerated. Sorry, humans.

Jun 21, 2014#490

Espy

If only it was because he'd been cast as Hal Jordan in the JL movie… sigh…

OR if Firefly was getting a new season!

Sigh.

Jun 21, 2014#491

CynicismKills

That's why I refused to believe it. As much as I'd love to see him in the capes genre, I doubt it'll happen. Not the first time he was rumored for something and turned out to be false.

Jun 21, 2014#492

sixpackshaker

I doubt we would hear "new casting news" 5 weeks before the premier.

Jun 23, 2014#493

Adam

I'm sure he's just going to play Mal from Firefly in a background scene, which would still be just as cool.

Jun 23, 2014#494

GasBandit

Adam said:
I'm sure he's just going to play Mal from Firefly in a background scene, which would still be just as cool.

I thought I'd read that somewhere already... Was that this movie, or did he do it in another movie already?

Jun 23, 2014#495

Ravenpoe

Adam said:
I'm sure he's just going to play Mal from Firefly in a background scene, which would still be just as cool.

Mal and Wash walking through the background of some spaceport would be amazing.

... wait...

......

oh, I forgot

Jun 23, 2014#496

sixpackshaker

I did get a kick out of seeing Serenity flying in the Battle Star Galactica mini-series.

Jun 23, 2014#497

Espy

GasBandit said:
I thought I'd read that somewhere already... Was that this movie, or did he do it in another movie already?

I think we talked about it here quite a bit. I haven't heard it anywhere else. SO IT MUST BE TRUE BECAUSE IT'S ON THE INTERNET!!!! YAY!!!!

Jun 23, 2014#498

GasBandit

Espy said:
I think we talked about it here quite a bit. I haven't heard it anywhere else. SO IT MUST BE TRUE BECAUSE IT'S ON THE INTERNET!!!! YAY!!!!

I googled around, and apparently they were teasing it on the movie gossip rags back in April.

Jun 23, 2014#499

Tinwhistler

Ravenpoe said:
Mal and Wash walking through the background of some spaceport would be amazing.

... wait...

......

oh, I forgot

Jun 24, 2014#500

IronBrig4

If they turn Nova into a trilogy, they have a lot of good material.

Nova 1 - Origin story, possibly ending with the New Warriors being formed.

Nova 2 - The Annihilation Wave destroys Nova Corps and Rider leads an intergalactic resistance a la Commander Shepard.

Nova 3 - The War of Kings storyline. Rider reactivates Nova Corps and helps get the galaxy back on its feet.

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