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Game of Thrones on Ice (aka the NHL Hockey Thread)

Aug 9, 2014#1

jwhouk

Who shall take down the mighty Kings of Los Angeles? Shall it be the Blackhawks of Chicago? The Rangers of Manhattan? The Bruins of Boston? The ~~Mistakes on the Lake~~ the Maple ~~Laffs~~ Leafs of Toronto?

Aug 9, 2014#2

Jay

Montreal of course.

Aug 9, 2014#3

blotsfan

Don't count us out. We're only 29 contractions away from being Cup favorites!

Seriously though we're going to be so much worse than last year. And thats saying a lot.

Aug 11, 2014#4

Covar

Is it April already? </nhlplayoffsjoke>

After a 5 year absence this is the Hurricanes year to make a run in the post season. Possibly. Maybe. I hope.

Aug 11, 2014#5

Adam

Jets! JETS JETS JETS!

Aug 11, 2014#6

jwhouk

"Stolen team! STOLEN TEAM! They're not yours! YOU STOLE YOUR TEAM!"

By the way: the Arizona Coyotes say hello.

Aug 11, 2014#7

blotsfan

Adam said:
Jets! JETS JETS JETS!

S-U-C-K! SUCK! SUCK! SUCK!

Oh sorry...wrong sport

Aug 12, 2014#8

HCGLNS

Colorado Avalanche take the Cup over the NYR in 6 games with 2 OT. MacKinnon is Connesmythe

Panthers quarter of a billion in debt and losing $30M per season. Locked into stadium for 14 more years...

Aug 12, 2014#9

Jay

Just move to Quebec.

Aug 12, 2014#10

jwhouk

Is Quebecor willing to pay off the lease deal in Sunrise to do it? I don't think they are.

Aug 13, 2014#11

HCGLNS

Yeah, the Panthers are really looking more and more like a contraction than relocation.

Aug 13, 2014#12

jwhouk

Seattle's calling first, though.

Although, I think the worst thing you could do to the Panthers at this point would be to relocate them to the Western Conference.

Aug 14, 2014#13

blotsfan

I hope they can find a way to make it work down there.

Aug 19, 2014#14

HCGLNS

Hey, somebody just bought the NY Islanders!

Which poses the Question: WHY?

Aug 26, 2014#15

Timmus

jwhouk said:
Seattle's calling first, though.

Although, I think the worst thing you could do to the Panthers at this point would be to relocate them to the Western Conference.

Worth it for the humour in Luongo being unable to escape the Pacific Northwest.

Post 1000 and it's in the hockey thread. Nice.

Aug 26, 2014#16

jwhouk

Is it October yet? It started to feel like it today in the 715...

Aug 26, 2014#17

Timmus

jwhouk said:
Is it October yet? It started to feel like it today in the 715...

Naw but it will be before you know it.

Sep 3, 2014#18

DarkAudit

Sidney Crosby was arrested in Ottawa last night...

...which was news to him, as he was in Vail, CO.

Sep 3, 2014#19

HCGLNS

Yeah, sad thing, it's really hard to get into trouble while driving a rented Porsche in Ottawa. Nearest place that rents them is Toronto.

Much more believable Crosby headline would be "Several inconvenienced as Sidney Crosby sited for trespassing after practicing too late at local rink."

Sep 4, 2014#20

blotsfan

Eh I dunno. He should get a lifetime ban from the NHL just to be safe.

Sep 29, 2014#21

DarkAudit

9 days to go. And the Flyers still suck.

Oct 8, 2014#22

jwhouk

And it has begun. Real NHL hockey is being played.

Oct 9, 2014#23

HCGLNS

That's pretty much how i expect the entire season to go for the Leafs.

Playoffs discussion will be a pleasant surprise.

Oct 9, 2014#24

jwhouk

Oct 9, 2014#25

HCGLNS

jwhouk! How did you get up there!

Oct 9, 2014#26

jwhouk

HCGLNS said:
jwhouk! How did you get up there!

Massively cool. B)

Oct 9, 2014#27

blotsfan

A great journey starts with a single step. Connor McDavid, here we come!

Oct 10, 2014#28

Charlie Don't Surf

The Predators won!!!!!!

Oct 10, 2014#29

jwhouk

Cotton candy Jam, y'all.

Oct 14, 2014#30

drawn_inward

HCGLNS said:
Yeah, the Panthers are really looking more and more like a contraction than relocation.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial&hpt=hp_t2

Yikes. The AHL team in OKC had better attendance numbers. Where are they going to go if they do move?

Oct 15, 2014#31

Charlie Don't Surf

Canada

Oct 15, 2014#32

blotsfan

More specifically, Quebec City. They're building an arena for a team.

Oct 15, 2014#33

drawn_inward

Canada could use a few more teams I guess.

Oct 15, 2014#34

jwhouk

KEEP IT SEVEN.

In other news: I think I know what I'm going to be doing in January/February of 2016...

Oct 17, 2014#35

Covar

I've posted it to my Facebook page, and am eagerly awaiting the responses.

Oct 18, 2014#36

blotsfan

jwhouk said:
KEEP IT SEVEN.

In other news: I think I know what I'm going to be doing in January/February of 2016...

And I'll be at the more relevant function for my team in the same year!

Oct 18, 2014#37

jwhouk

January 31, 2016. Be there or be octagonal.

Nov 6, 2014#38

DarkAudit

KO gives us a history lesson...

Nov 6, 2014#39

jwhouk

Yeah. I bet Olberman salivated over that Deceptions and Doublecross book.

I personally give Toronto the benefit of the doubt that their first two seasons in the NHL were, in fact, the precursor to the Leafs.

But they were still an expansion team.

Nov 7, 2014#40

Covar

DarkAudit said:
KO gives us a history lesson...

As much as I can't stand Olberman, I have to love this video. I've said it before, but the biggest detriment to this sport is the NHL and certain fans obsession with the original six. It's incredibly exclusionary.

Nov 11, 2014#41

HCGLNS

I don't bother to debate the creation of the original 6 I just point out that the expansion has been around longer than original 6 era.

Nov 11, 2014#42

jwhouk

@blotsfan - Sorry to hear about the McDavid injury.

Nov 13, 2014#43

blotsfan

NOOOOO He's all I have!*

*Be prepared in 6 months for my freakout when we lose the lottery.

Nov 13, 2014#44

Charlie Don't Surf

if the Predators beat the Blues again tonight, I might be convinced they're a good team and get really excited, y'all

Nov 13, 2014#45

jwhouk

Oh, that's right, I forgot, you're on that bandwagon too.

(Shrug) It takes all kinds.

You do know Fisher is a few weeks away from coming back, right?

===

In other news: If you did not catch that epic Kings-Ducks game last night, FOR SHAME!

That game was the prime example why the NHL should consider going to a 10-minute OT instead of five and a shootout.

Nov 13, 2014#46

Charlie Don't Surf

If on that bandwagon means I was born in/lived in Nashville and started going to Predators games when I was 12, and had at least partial season tickets until I left the state at age 21, and openly wept with joy when they won their first playoff series, etc. etc., I'm on the bandwagon.

Nov 13, 2014#47

jwhouk

Were you 12 in 1997? Because that was when I became a fan of the Nashville NHL team.

I voted for "Sabrecats".

Nov 13, 2014#48

blotsfan

But then you'd be a...copy cat.

:csi:

Nov 13, 2014#49

jwhouk

Anyways - Intra-divisional game tonight. Apparently, the Blues were the cause of the mumps outbreak in the NHL, by the way - so surgical gloves and PPE's for everyone!

Nov 13, 2014#50

jwhouk

Irony: it was today 17 years ago that the name "Predators" was announced as the team's name.

Nov 13, 2014#51

Charlie Don't Surf

jwhouk said:
Were you 12 in 1997? Because that was when I became a fan of the Nashville NHL team.

I voted for "Sabrecats".

errr. 11. I can't count.

Nov 13, 2014#52

jwhouk

Oops.
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Nov 13, 2014#53

Charlie Don't Surf

and it's insult to injury, they lost

Nov 14, 2014#54

HCGLNS

Nov 19, 2014#55

HCGLNS

Ufh someone get me a paper bag for my house so I can watch yhe Leafs in secret.

Nov 19, 2014#56

Covar

Nov 19, 2014#57

jwhouk

This just in: the Leafs just let in another goal, and the game against Nashville was over 24 hours ago!

Nov 20, 2014#58

HCGLNS

Nov 23, 2014#59

jwhouk

The Nashville Predators played 64 minutes of good hockey last night - and one absolutely horrid minute.

Fortunately, the horrid minute did not come back to haunt them, as they won in the shootout.

50 shots on goal, plus the four in the shootout, on Roberto Luongo. And only three made it into the back of the net.

Dec 13, 2014#60

checkeredhat

So Crosby is missing the next two games, but he totally doesn't have mumps, you guys.

Dec 13, 2014#61

jwhouk

Yeah, of course not. :rolleyes:

You know, you could make a pretty darn good all-star squad out of the players who have either had confirmed cases of the mumps, or are "alleged" to have had them.

From Hockey's Future message boards:

CONFIRMED CASES:
Anaheim:
Corey Perry - Nov. 12
Francois Beauchemin - Nov. 12
Clayton Stoner - Nov. 28
Emerson Etem - Dec. 5

Minnesota:
Christian Folin - late October
Keith Ballard - late October
Marco Scandella - Nov. 13
Jonas Brodin - Nov. 13
Ryan Suter - Dec. 4

N.Y. Rangers:
Tanner Glass - Nov. 29

New Jersey:
Adam Larsson - Dec. 10
Travis Zajac - Dec. 10

SUSPECTED CASES:
St. Louis:
Jori Lehtera - late October
Vladimir Tarasenko - late October
Ryan Reaves - late October
Unknown other Blues players - late October

Pittsburgh:
Sidney Crosby - Dec. 12

Montreal:
Bryan Allen - Dec. 12

OTHER CASE:
Tom Sestito - during the lockout contracted virus right before returning from England

Dec 13, 2014#62

checkeredhat

It's pretty nuts.

Dec 13, 2014#63

Charlie Don't Surf

The Predators are the best team in the NHL and that's pretty cool

Dec 13, 2014#64

checkeredhat

The Leafs are once again winning games while being outshot by insane margins, which is part of why I haven't been in this thread this season. It's the same shit as last season and I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop (Well, okay, it already did for two games and they picked it back up. But it'll happen again.) Last season was so depressing I couldn't even bring myself to watch the playoffs.

But Komarov is always fun to watch. Or was, until he was injured.

Dec 13, 2014#65

jwhouk

9-2.

Dec 13, 2014#66

checkeredhat

Oh while I'm procrastinating and posting on here instead of doing my laundry or grocery shopping:

Rogers coverage is balls, why is Glen Healy still employed, and why would you hire any of the Star's sports reporters, especially Damien freaking Cox?!

Dec 13, 2014#67

checkeredhat

jwhouk said:
9-2.

Like I said, the shoe dropped for two games. Nashville and Buffalo. But the Leafs are 7-1-1 since then despite getting horrifically outshot on the reg in that time. It's the same pattern as last year and the collapse is coming unless this team smartens its defence up.

If Reimer or Bernier has a bad night, you get games like Nasvhille and Buffalo. If they have a hot night, we get games like Detroit or Calgary. But relying on insane Save percentage and shooting percentage is not going to be sustainable. I know I'm repeating a lot of analysts, but honestly you don't need to be an analyst or even to know what the statistics actually are to see that the Leafs have been getting badly outplayed night in night out and that it can't last.

Dec 13, 2014#68

checkeredhat

8-1-1*
And they played well tonight.

Dec 14, 2014#69

checkeredhat

9-1-1. What is this? a five game win streak?!

Dec 14, 2014#70

jwhouk

Tomas Vokoun has decided to retire.

Dec 15, 2014#71

DarkAudit

Sid is now a confirmed case of mumps.

Dec 15, 2014#72

HCGLNS

Dallas Eakins has been fired from Edmonton.

Yeah, like that will help.

Dec 15, 2014#73

checkeredhat

HCGLNS said:
Dallas Eakins has been fired from Edmonton.

Yeah, like that will help.

Fire the coach for the team's defensive irresponsibility? what are they, the Leafs?

Also, sucks for anyone who put money on Carlyle being the first coach to get fired this season. Glad I didn't take that bet.

Dec 15, 2014#74

HCGLNS

So that's 6 coaches in 7 years. Yeah it's clearly all the coaches fault. What a nightmare Edmonton is these days.

Dec 15, 2014#75

blotsfan

4 in a row. 10 of 13.

I have no idea whats going on.

Dec 16, 2014#76

jwhouk

They're figuring McDavid will be there wherever they end up drafting, because reasons?

Dec 16, 2014#77

blotsfan

I dunno. This might be ridiculous but maybe we're actually pretty good?

Dec 16, 2014#78

jwhouk

It's just so Buffalo.

Dec 16, 2014#79

checkeredhat

10-1-1 since we fell prey to Nashville. 6 in a row.

The road trip will be the real test though. Feels like other than the game in Detroit the other night the Leafs have been at home forever.

Dec 18, 2014#80

DarkAudit

More more mumps in Pittsburgh. Beau Bennett confirmed. Marc-Andre Fleury, Robert Bortuzzo, and Olli Maatta being tested.

Dec 18, 2014#81

jwhouk

Icky poo germy penguins!

Dec 19, 2014#82

jwhouk

Strange thing happened today.

Viktor Stalberg of the Predators was placed on waivers yesterday. No one claimed him after 24 hours, so he was reassigned to Milwaukee of the AHL.

And, just like that, before he could even pack his stuff and head to BNA for the next flight north, the Preds put Paul Gaustad on IR - and recall Stalberg.

Dec 27, 2014#83

jwhouk

Tonight, the Nashville Predators are having a bobblehead giveaway - their captain, Shea Weber.

Their opponent... is the Philadelphia Flyers.

Jan 6, 2015#84

HCGLNS

If you didn't watch the World Junior championship, You missed some great hockey.

Jan 6, 2015#85

HCGLNS

So leave to the Leafs to steal the thunder from the Juniors.

Carlyle fired today.

Jan 7, 2015#86

blotsfan

The man, the myth, the legend

Jan 8, 2015#87

jwhouk

Hey, I wonder who's at the top of the NHL standings right now. Any ideas?

Jan 15, 2015#88

blotsfan

jwhouk said:
It's just so Buffalo.

In case you were wondering, after winning 10 of 13, we've won 1 of the last 13. We are currently down 5 after two periods to Minnesota.
McEICHEL!!!

Jan 15, 2015#89

jwhouk

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:hide:

Jan 17, 2015#90

HCGLNS

Well at least you've got some wiggle room.

Jan 17, 2015#91

jwhouk

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT'S 15 FREAKIN' GAMES!!!!

Jan 17, 2015#92

blotsfan

Back in last!

Jan 20, 2015#93

HCGLNS

2 goals in 5 games. Not since 1922 have they been this futile.

Jan 20, 2015#94

jwhouk

YGTBKM moment: Boston is getting the Winter Classic AGAIN.

Jan 24, 2015#95

jwhouk

108.5.

(That's 174.6 kph for those of you back in Sicamous...)

Jan 25, 2015#96

Charlie Don't Surf

Shea Weber is a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad man

Jan 25, 2015#97

jwhouk

I'll vote for Charlie to be his target goaltender next year in Nashville.

Jan 25, 2015#98

Charlie Don't Surf

Jan 30, 2015#99

jwhouk

Uh, apparently there was a little bit more than just hockey and hockey analysis going on during the broadcast of the Predators-Blues game.

Jan 30, 2015#100

Charlie Don't Surf

I saw/heard that live last night

Jan 30, 2015#101

blotsfan

Sabres lost to Edmonton last night to solidify last place in the league a bit. We have lost a franchise record 13 straight games. All of them in regulation.

Jan 31, 2015#102

jwhouk

Charlie Don't Surf said:
I saw/heard that live last night

OK, since Tapatalk doesn't block, I'm intrigued. What did you think when you heard it?

Jan 31, 2015#103

Charlie Don't Surf

jwhouk said:
OK, since Tapatalk doesn't block, I'm intrigued. What did you think when you heard it?

Full disclosure: I wasn't the most sober in my life, and I honestly thought I half made-it-up and halfway just had a dirty mind.

Feb 1, 2015#104

Jay

blotsfan said:
Sabres lost to Edmonton last night to solidify last place in the league a bit. We have lost a franchise record 13 straight games. All of them in regulation.

Tanking it at full throttle for 1st choice.

Will laugh when lottery gives it to Edmonton again.

Feb 1, 2015#105

blotsfan

It's more we want to be guarenteed to get Eichel. McDavid would be great but we don't want to miss out on both of them.

I don't want the longest losing streak ever though which is looking very possible (4 games)

Feb 1, 2015#106

HCGLNS

Make way Toronto enters this fight!

Feb 1, 2015#107

blotsfan

You already have more points than we're likely to get this season.

Feb 1, 2015#108

jwhouk

Meanwhile we're heading for a likely beat down by Sindey and friends.

#pray4pekka

Feb 1, 2015#109

DarkAudit

jwhouk said:
Meanwhile we're heading for a likely beat down by Sindey and friends.

#pray4pekka

No Malkin this afternoon.

Feb 1, 2015#110

DarkAudit

Welp, after the last couple of weeks, no surprise with that result.

Feb 2, 2015#111

jwhouk

Sorry, I'm still sitting here in shock.

Feb 3, 2015#112

blotsfan

At least theres one team we can beat. Right @Jay?

Feb 3, 2015#113

Jay

Yep. Habs always will play to the level of their competition.

Feb 4, 2015#114

jwhouk

LOLEAFS.

Feb 4, 2015#115

HCGLNS

You almost lost ...we actually held a lead against a team last night...

Feb 4, 2015#116

jwhouk

Yeah, and then Carter Hutton found out which one of you guys had the kryptonite.

And the rest of our boys remembered who we were playing, and where they were. (I think the standing ovation gave them a jolt.)

Oh, and

Number 9, number 9...

Feb 4, 2015#117

Charlie Don't Surf

I can't decide which Preds game to go to in this homestand. Ducks, Rangers, Lightning, Jets, and Devils I think.

Feb 4, 2015#118

jwhouk

You might wanna be there tomorrow against the Ducks. I hear there's this hotshot goalie from Finland who's scheduled to be in net.

Feb 4, 2015#119

jwhouk

HE'S BAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAACCCKKK!

Feb 7, 2015#120

checkeredhat

Feb 9, 2015#121

jwhouk

Child abuse:

Feb 9, 2015#122

blotsfan

Because he might get to see a Stanley Cup in his lifetime as opposed to years of waiting, the only hope being met by disappointment?

Feb 9, 2015#123

jwhouk

Okay, yeah, you're right, having your child dressed up in Buffalo Sabres or Vancouver Canucks gear would be child abuse, then.

Feb 9, 2015#124

blotsfan

Or nashville predators

Feb 10, 2015#125

jwhouk

Bite me, Toe-in-the-crease Lover.

Feb 10, 2015#126

checkeredhat

blotsfan said:
Because he might get to see a Stanley Cup in his lifetime as opposed to years of waiting, the only hope being met by disappointment?

Wow, that sounds terrible. I'd hate to be a fan of a team like that.

Feb 10, 2015#127

Dei

Whenever people start taking about their team sucking, all I have to do is say I'm from Buffalo and I win the discussion. At least Buffalo sports can win at something amirite?!

Feb 10, 2015#128

jwhouk

My former classmate is hoping to change that, but D1 is a big step up from D3.

Anyhoo: Preds up 1-0 on Bolts.

Feb 10, 2015#129

blotsfan

Dei said:
Whenever people start taking about their team sucking, all I have to do is say I'm from Buffalo and I win the discussion. At least Buffalo sports can win at something amirite?!

The bandits have won four championships, thank you very much.

Feb 10, 2015#130

checkeredhat

blotsfan said:
The bandits have won four championships, thank you very much.

As a Toronto Rock fan, I've learned the NLL championship "doesn't count". Nobody cares how many NLL championships your team has won.

If people cared, Toronto would actually have a good sports team to brag about.

Feb 10, 2015#131

HCGLNS

I am happy with the Leafs loss tonight.

Feb 11, 2015#132

jwhouk

Real Deal James Neal.

"And the beat goes on....."

Feb 11, 2015#133

blotsfan

Sabres gutted the team today. If you guys thought we were bad before...

Feb 11, 2015#134

Piotyr

blotsfan said:
Sabres gutted the team today. If you guys thought we were bad before...

my heart attack from the headline "Sabres complete blockbuster deal for Kane" is just now subsiding, thank you very much.

Feb 11, 2015#135

blotsfan

Not yet. I promise you, when Patrick Kane is old and washed up, he's coming to Buffalo.

Feb 11, 2015#136

jwhouk

So, they ran the White Flag up outside the First Niagara Center, hey?

Feb 11, 2015#137

blotsfan

Now that I've had more time to think about it, here are my thoughts on the Sabres post-trade:

Feb 12, 2015#138

checkeredhat

We're coming up right behind you, man.
Apparently the Leafs are taking a "Scorched earth" approach and committing to a full-on rebuild.

This is exactly what this team needed like 6 seasons ago. Burke sorta started a quick fix solution that may have been going somewhere had they not fired him. We'll see if Bell and Rogers are ready to put their money where their mouths are and actually commit to this plan, or if they're going to fuck it up mid way through like every other ownership group has.

Feb 12, 2015#139

blotsfan

You guys have 15 points on us, and we just got significantly worse. Maple Leafs have no chance of going ahead of (behind?) us.

Feb 12, 2015#140

checkeredhat

blotsfan said:
You guys have 15 points on us, and we just got significantly worse. Maple Leafs have no chance of going ahead of (behind?) us.

I don't mean in the race to the bottom for the draft lottery, I just mean into rebuild territory. We too, are nuking the site from orbit.

Feb 12, 2015#141

jwhouk

That being said, when are you going to give us Kessel?

Feb 12, 2015#142

HCGLNS

When you give us the rest of your first round picks?

Feb 13, 2015#143

jwhouk

See, that's the problem. You guys always want these unreasonable trades with everyone else, and yet we ask for one little thing and you want the entire farm for them.

Feb 13, 2015#144

HCGLNS

Science!

Feb 13, 2015#145

jwhouk

So the colors represent shots, and the redder they are, the higher the shot percentage against (aka goals per shot) would be?

Feb 13, 2015#146

HCGLNS

The colours supposedly represent the body heat of where the shooter was located at the time of the shot. So it shows that the shooters against MTL are more around the crease than the shooters against NSH. Doesn't mean much, but kinda neat.

Feb 13, 2015#147

Jay

Price has been the best goalie this season.

Feb 13, 2015#148

jwhouk

HCGLNS said:
The colours supposedly represent the body heat of where the shooter was located at the time of the shot. So it shows that the shooters against MTL are more around the crease than the shooters against NSH. Doesn't mean much, but kinda neat.

It means something: Shea, Roman, Seth, Alexander, etc. keep people AWAY from their Pekka.[DOUBLEPOST=1423877418,1423877351][/DOUBLEPOST]

Jay said:
Price has been the best goalie this season.

You obviously have not been watching games that don't involve Canadian clubs.

Feb 14, 2015#149

HCGLNS

Without knowing the positions of every other player on the ice it doesn't tell us much, but it's still neat.

Feb 14, 2015#150

jwhouk

Once you explained the heat thing, it made sense.

The term used is "clearing the crease." Our d-men do it better than Subban and company.

Feb 14, 2015#151

Jay

jwhouk said:
It means something: Shea, Roman, Seth, Alexander, etc. keep people AWAY from their Pekka.[DOUBLEPOST=1423877418,1423877351][/DOUBLEPOST]

And that's why Price is a better goalie this season.

GG on the fanbois on the gratuitous disagrees on this yet provide the reasons why he's better.

I'm not sure you guys understand the concept of disagrees around here.

Price has more saves, more shutouts and most importantly a better save percentage. Since mid-October, that last one is even more ridiculous.

Feb 14, 2015#152

checkeredhat

Man, I knew Price had been good for you guys this year, I did not know the extent of how good. That's crazy. 1280 Shots faced and only 86 goals against. Yeesh.

Feb 14, 2015#153

DarkAudit

If you haven't seen the 30 for 30 docu Of Miracles and Men, I urge you to do so. The Soviet perspective of the 1980 Olympics and much more.

TIL even the Soviets got snow days, and the Soviet kids reacted the same way as we did. WOO HOO!!

Feb 14, 2015#154

jwhouk

...and Pekka has more wins, and would probably have at least one more shutout and a higher save percentage if, y'know, he hadn't MISSED THREE WEEKS.

We have the same number of Cup wins as you since we came into the league, amant Habitant.

Feb 14, 2015#155

Charlie Don't Surf

and I'd probably also throw in that the Western Conference is much stiffer competition than the Eastern

Feb 14, 2015#156

Vrii

jwhouk said:
We have the same number of Cup wins as you since we came into the league, amant Habitant.

What does that have to do with which goalie's been better this year?

Price is putting up better numbers on a worse team. He's been more impressive this year, and it's not even close.

Feb 14, 2015#157

jwhouk

BUT - if Pekka were on the Habs, they'd be doing much better. Pekka's more valuable to the Preds than Price is to the Habs.

Feb 14, 2015#158

HCGLNS

jwhouk said:
BUT - if Pekka were on the Habs, they'd be doing much better. Pekka's more valuable to the Preds than Price is to the Habs.

What?! The Preds with their defense would be a playoff team with Bester in net.

Feb 14, 2015#159

Vrii

Yeah, that's just completely false. Rinne is a good goalie, not suggesting otherwise, but Carey Price is the Habs' playoff chances.

Feb 14, 2015#160

jwhouk

See, with Price in net, we'd be contending for a playoff spot.

With Pekka in net, WE HAVE 80 FREAKIN' POINTS TO LEAD THE LEAGUE.

Feb 14, 2015#161

HCGLNS

Couldn't even beat us in regulation!!! We're trying to tank here! We don't want your pity points!

Feb 14, 2015#162

Jay

jwhouk said:
...and Pekka has more wins, and would probably have at least one more shutout and a higher save percentage if, y'know, he hadn't MISSED THREE WEEKS.

We have the same number of Cup wins as you since we came into the league, amant Habitant.

Wins are a completely arbitrary number. It depends completely on who's team you're playing for.

Put these goalies in shitholes like Edmonton/Buffalo and that changes. Does that make them bad goalies? Nope, just really unhappy ones.

Playing for teams that score more goals affects this, as you'll get more wins. Preds have 164, Habs have 146. I'm sure those 18 goals make a difference.

Since Oct. 17 :

Rinne: 29-7-1, 2.07 GAA, .929 SV%, 2 SO
Price: 27-10-2, 1.84 GAA, .938 SV%, 4 SO

These numbers don't lie. Both are great goalies but Price is simply playing better this season.

The fact that Rinne got hurt doesn't matter, since you know, Price played similar number of games (2 more at the time of that statline). But it'll affect his Vezina chances at the end of the season baring any issues with Price's performance.

The fact that the Habs haven't won a cup in 20 something year, has, well... fuck all to do with the topic on hand. But since we're bringing irrelevant things on the table, did you know that Nashville Preds have a cat like creature logo on their jerseys?

#TheMoreYouKnow[DOUBLEPOST=1423970857,1423970551][/DOUBLEPOST]

Charlie Don't Surf said:
and I'd probably also throw in that the Western Conference is much stiffer competition than the Eastern

Irrelevant to the conversation.

That myth is always in play, since the lock-out, West is 5-4 vs the East.[DOUBLEPOST=1423971390][/DOUBLEPOST]

jwhouk said:
With Pekka in net, WE HAVE 80 FREAKIN' POINTS TO LEAD THE LEAGUE.

Did he score those 20 extra goals?

Also, the defense differences are pretty staggering

4 guys with +10 or better? Habs best is ALEXEI EMELIN??

LOL

Feb 14, 2015#163

jwhouk

I'm sorry, I can't quite hear you all the way up here at the top of the standings...

[DOUBLEPOST=1423972093,1423971903][/DOUBLEPOST]Carter Hutton (5-4-4) is proof: without Pekka Rinne, the Nashville Predators are simply playoff contenders. With him, they are going after the Governor's trophy. That's a swing of about 18-20 points.

Feb 14, 2015#164

Jay

Carter Hutton
5-4-4 (13 games)
.905 save %
2.65 GAA
357 shots (27 shots a game)

Tokarski
5-4-2 (11 games)
.914 save %
2.67 GAA
359 shots (33 shots a game)

Kind of comparable, except for the fact Toks has more shots taken on him than Hutton does with 2 games played less.

Better D. No surprise there. :trolol:

Though your backup goalie is ass.

Still get 6 shots less a game. That's close to 0.5 less goals a game for a goalie doing .915 (league average).

Feb 14, 2015#165

Vrii

jwhouk said:
Carter Hutton (5-4-4) is proof: without Pekka Rinne, the Nashville Predators are simply playoff contenders. With him, they are going after the Governor's trophy. That's a swing of about 18-20 points.

So your argument is that because your starter is better than your backup, Rinne is better than Price?

Feb 14, 2015#166

Jay

Vrii said:
So your argument is that because your starter is better than your backup, Rinne is better than Price?

Stop making sense, yo.

# of wins isn't that important of a stat to win the Vezina. The truth is the fact that the Habs are bottom 10 (#21) in scoring and Nashville is top 10 (#6). Habs are likely not going to win if Price lets in more than 2 goals. This isn't the case with the Preds. The Preds also possibly have 2 Norris finalists as well as the Calder winner as well.

Imagine if the Habs had Weber?

Feb 14, 2015#167

jwhouk

You kinda have him, except you call him "P.K. Subban" and for some unknown reason he has a Norris Trophy while the real one doesn't.

Not that Subban has done anything to deserve a Norris Trophy this year, mind you.

The real test will be playoff time. If Price leads les Habitants to the Cup, I shall eat my words.

If Pekka does...

I probably won't be posting for a while, because I'll be floating somewhere over 5th and Broadway out of pure elation.

Feb 14, 2015#168

Vrii

I have to assume this is just some knee-jerk defensiveness coming from how often Nashville was targeted for relocation rumours - no other reason the arguments would keep coming back to the Habs' history and Nashville's record this year instead of any factual analysis of the goalies' performances.

Feb 15, 2015#169

Charlie Don't Surf

looks like we'll have to settle this the old-fashioned way: In the Stanley Cup Finals, if your chump Canuck squad can make it.

Feb 15, 2015#170

jwhouk

No, it's from Pekka being the way-better goaltender.

Feb 15, 2015#171

HCGLNS

Nashville Predators President of Hockey Operations/General Manager David Poile announced Sunday that the team has acquired defenceman Cody Franson and forward Mike Santorelli from the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Nashville’s first-round selection in the 2015 Draft, and forwards Brendan Leipsic and Olli Jokinen.

Feb 15, 2015#172

drifter

So, how good are advanced stats in hockey? I took a gander over at hockey-reference, but I don't know the game well enough to know what the weaknesses to them are.

Feb 15, 2015#173

Charlie Don't Surf

drifter said:
So, how good are advanced stats in hockey? I took a gander over at hockey-reference, but I don't know the game well enough to know what the weaknesses to them are.

I've done a little gander at some of them, but not much digging to see if there's anything comparable to WAR. A lot of people went nuts over the "Corsi number", but I slightly think it's more helpful to line performance more than individuals.

Also, I fully approve of that Preds trade.

Feb 15, 2015#174

HCGLNS

If I had any faith that the Leafs knew how to draft talent I would be ok with it a bit. As is, sigh, they will probably waste the pick on a box of magic beans.

Feb 15, 2015#175

blotsfan

Steve Montador dead at 35.

Apparently, he had a lot of concussions and suffered from depression. I hope its not related.

Feb 15, 2015#176

jwhouk

HCGLNS said:
Nashville Predators President of Hockey Operations/General Manager David Poile announced Sunday that the team has acquired defenceman Cody Franson and forward Mike Santorelli from the Toronto Maple Leafs in exchange for Nashville’s first-round selection in the 2015 Draft, and forwards Brendan Leipsic and Olli Jokinen.

WE'RE GETTING THE BAND BACK TOGETHER!

Feb 15, 2015#177

Charlie Don't Surf

how's Kimmo's latest comeback attempt going?

Feb 15, 2015#178

jwhouk

Haven't heard.

All that's left to do is get him and Hartsy back, and we'll be partying like it was 2005.

Feb 15, 2015#179

Charlie Don't Surf

They even have a Forsberg!

Feb 15, 2015#180

checkeredhat

Adding Santo to the Preds makes them especially scary.

Feb 15, 2015#181

jwhouk

Franson actually gives us an upgrade defensively, too.

(I think I just heard every forward in the Western Conference shudder when I typed that.)

Feb 15, 2015#182

checkeredhat

I'm just glad we're plummeting to the bottom of the standings and don't have to worry about it.[DOUBLEPOST=1424047101,1424047028][/DOUBLEPOST]Also I'm curious to see what we get for Jokinen, since we can't possibly be trying to keep him (How does a 36 year old who doesn't want to be there fit into a rebuild?).

Feb 15, 2015#183

jwhouk

He just got his hair cut, so you won't have anyone admiring his "flow" for a while.

Other than that... Uh, if you're expecting the Olli Jokinen of old, you're going to be in for a rude awakening.

Feb 16, 2015#184

Piotyr

There is a very real possibility that the best 3 teams in the NHL are in the Central Division right now.

Feb 16, 2015#185

Charlie Don't Surf

That's true, the Central division does contain the Predators' first line, second line, and third line.

Feb 16, 2015#186

Piotyr

And despite all that their goaltender keeps them competitive with the best two teams in the league.

Feb 17, 2015#187

HCGLNS

checkeredhat said:
I'm just glad we're plummeting to the bottom of the standings and don't have to worry about it.[DOUBLEPOST=1424047101,1424047028][/DOUBLEPOST]Also I'm curious to see what we get for Jokinen, since we can't possibly be trying to keep him (How does a 36 year old who doesn't want to be there fit into a rebuild?).

He is a quintessential Leaf player, 14 years in the league, 6 playoff games. He's finally found a place to call home!

Feb 17, 2015#188

jwhouk

Meanwhile, Middle Tennessee has suddenly turned into Saskatoon. Snow, bitter cold temps, icy roadways, and a distinct chance that the game against San Jose might be postponed.

Feb 17, 2015#189

jwhouk

Well, game wasn't postponed, but the Sharks apparently didn't show up...

#pekka4hart

Feb 18, 2015#190

Charlie Don't Surf

im-pekka-ble

Feb 18, 2015#191

jwhouk

Seven saves in a single Sharks' power play, and four on one scoring chance.

Superman wears Pekka Rinne underwear. :minionhappy:

Feb 18, 2015#192

HCGLNS

Kessel scored a goal

Feb 18, 2015#193

DarkAudit

The Pens will be an easy mark in the playoffs. The rest of the Patrick Division has their number. Just punch them in the mouth a few times (or hack a few ankles), and they lose focus completely.

Feb 18, 2015#194

checkeredhat

HCGLNS said:
Kessel scored a goal

Hey we lost anyway! Nothing, not even the Phil, can stop this tank.

Feb 18, 2015#195

HCGLNS

Same for Montreal. They need some willing to take extreme liberties with those that poke at Price.

Feb 18, 2015#196

jwhouk

This is why there's talk we're after Lucic.

But we still have Angry Shea to deal with in case someone gets a little too close to Pekka.

Feb 22, 2015#197

blotsfan

Hey, @jwhouk and @Charlie Don't Surf I'm going to the Sabres-Preds game tonight. I really think we have a decent chance of pulling it out* against you guys.

*Scoring a goal

Feb 22, 2015#198

Charlie Don't Surf

Nice, hope it's a fun game.

Feb 22, 2015#199

jwhouk

Playing down to our opposition.

Feb 22, 2015#200

blotsfan

At least you got what you wanted out of the game. We got a point.

Also, I've been to four games this year. They've all been shootouts.

Feb 23, 2015#201

jwhouk

I hate the shootout. The one we had with the Sabres gave us Van Halen for the franchise:

Always one more, you're never satisfied
Never for all with you, it's only one for me
So, why draw the line? Meet you half the way
When you don't know what that means

Feb 25, 2015#202

blotsfan

Just noticed the Coyotes have 47 points, only one more than the Oilers.

Feb 25, 2015#203

jwhouk

Do. NOT. Activate. Angry Shea. Mode.

Feb 25, 2015#204

HCGLNS

I would totally start a fight with Weber just to try and break his fist on my face. Easiest way to deal with him really.

Feb 25, 2015#205

jwhouk

Don't think it'd happen. This is a man who has shot pucks through backboards.

Feb 26, 2015#206

HCGLNS

Toronto just traded David Clarkson to Columbus for Nathan Horton.

Need to do a Snoopy Happy Dance now.

Feb 26, 2015#207

jwhouk

HCGLNS said:
Toronto just traded David Clarkson to Columbus for Nathan Horton.

Need to do a Snoopy Happy Dance now.

So you'd rather have a LTIR player instead of a guy who couldn't hack playing in the GTA?

Sad. TO is the place people "think" everyone wants to play - until they actually play there.

UPDATE: Jagr to Florida for picks. :confused:

Feb 26, 2015#208

HCGLNS

It's a great win-win trade. Columbus gets a person who can play, Toronto gets rid of a terrible contract without using the buy-out clause.

Um, who are these "everyone" that "think" they want to play in Toronto? Nobody wants to play in Toronto, last weeks survey confirmed that.

Feb 26, 2015#209

jwhouk

After a very lackluster game against the Wild tonight, a poster on another Hockey-related board expressed his displeasure with Franson's play since arriving in Nashville:

I haven't seen the greatness Toronto fans were claiming yet that's for sure.....

Click to expand...

To which one of our regular posters returned the obvious:

Do you think that Toronto fans can recognize a good player anymore?

Feb 26, 2015#210

checkeredhat

HCGLNS said:
It's a great win-win trade. Columbus gets a person who can play, Toronto gets rid of a terrible contract without using the buy-out clause.

Um, who are these "everyone" that "think" they want to play in Toronto? Nobody wants to play in Toronto, last weeks survey confirmed that.

Yeah, nobody wants to play in Toronto and it's not exactly a secret. The most intense media, the most bipolar fan base, the worst arena atmosphere... even the hometown boys by and large would rather play just about anywhere else.

Clarkson is an exception, but he's a terrible one at tat price and for that long a term. Can't believe we got rid of that contract.

And yeah, we'd rather have a $5mil guy on LTIR than Clarkson. That's $5mil mil off our bulging cap hit, and MLSE probably spends more than that on board room lunches in a year.

Feb 26, 2015#211

jwhouk

Maybe the GTA shouldn't have an NHL team. For the good of hockey.

Feb 27, 2015#212

HCGLNS

Yeah getting rid of a struggling leagues largest by far money earner seems like a great idea.

Feb 27, 2015#213

jwhouk

Hey, it worked for Los Angeles and the NFL...

Feb 27, 2015#214

HCGLNS

Got one of those lucrative TV deals to share with the NHL?

Feb 28, 2015#215

HCGLNS

You better win tonight @Jay I don't like the match ups for our basement room mates.

Feb 28, 2015#216

jwhouk

...I want to hit the big red PANIC button.

Should I?

:?

Feb 28, 2015#217

HCGLNS

No, Detroit is just the better team.

Feb 28, 2015#218

jwhouk

Is that what Leafs fans keep telling themselves?

Oh God, I'm turning into a Leafs fan, except I'm a PREDATORS fan. :aaah:

Feb 28, 2015#219

HCGLNS

Go Marlies!

Mar 1, 2015#220

HCGLNS

Shut out twice in two days! Connor Baby we're a comin for ya!

Mar 7, 2015#221

jwhouk

@!#$%^&*()_+)(*&^%$#%^&**)(^%^&* WE LOST AGAIN.

Mar 7, 2015#222

checkeredhat

jwhouk said:
@!#$%^&*()_+)(*&^%$#%^&**)(^%^&* WE LOST AGAIN.

Seems like your mascot liked what he saw though.

Mar 8, 2015#223

Charlie Don't Surf

re: the Nashville Predators

STOP. LOSING. (say it like Rob Lowe in Parks & Rec)

Mar 8, 2015#224

jwhouk

...You're not going to let me live that down, are you?

Mar 8, 2015#225

jwhouk

Welp, @blotsfan, at least you don't have to worry about any pesky playoffs to ruin your McDavid/Eichel plans anymore.

Mar 8, 2015#226

blotsfan

lol we came close to the longest losing streak in NHL history. I haven't been worried for a while.

Mar 10, 2015#227

jwhouk

Two things of great import:

1. ABOUT FRIGGIN' TIME they won another game.

2. Despite what many may be led to believe, that is not me who plays defense for the Toledo Walleye of the ECHL.

Mar 12, 2015#228

HCGLNS

=sigh=

My OHL team is relocating to Hamilton, Hamilton to St Johns, then Laval and St Johns to Winnipeg.

So sad to see my team leave my home town, so many great memories.

Mar 12, 2015#229

jwhouk

You mean the AHL, right?

Hamilton Bulldogs (MON) => St. John's White Caps (until Laval's arena is done)
St. John's White Caps (WPG) => Manitoba Moose (guarantee this will be the name.)

And seeing Hamilton lose its AHL team...

Mar 12, 2015#230

HCGLNS

Yeah the only OHL team to move is mine old city.

Apparently if Rinne wins tonight he will have 1/3 out of all of Nashvilles total wins. Youse guys need a back up already

Mar 12, 2015#231

checkeredhat

jwhouk said:
You mean the AHL, right?

Hamilton Bulldogs (MON) => St. John's White Caps (until Laval's arena is done)
St. John's White Caps (WPG) => Manitoba Moose (guarantee this will be the name.)

And seeing Hamilton lose its AHL team...

Partial credit. HCGLNS is talking about the Belleville Bulls of the OHL, who are moving from Belleville to Hamilton in the wake of the Hamilton Bulldogs moving.

Mar 13, 2015#232

jwhouk

Aaaaand schadenfreude comes back to bite me in the butt.

Y'know, I think maybe we should consider not pulling the goalie for an extra attacker when we're down a goal.

Mar 16, 2015#233

jwhouk

I don't remember if we have anyone in the Dresden area who might follow hockey, but:

Lusatian Foxes forward Greg Classen attacked by muggers, out of ICU

Greg was a good friend during the magical Calder Cup season of 2004, and he'd made his way to play in Europe.

Obviously, this happened Saturday (about 72 hours or so ago as I post this), so he could be out of the hospital by now.

Still - scary stuff.

Mar 17, 2015#234

HCGLNS

If he's suspended I think he gets 2 games. IF Prust gets suspended.

Mar 17, 2015#235

jwhouk

HCGLNS said:
If he's suspended I think he gets 2 games. IF Prust gets suspended.

Who?

Mar 17, 2015#236

HCGLNS

Brandon Prust, Montreal goon checked the Tampa goalie from behind into the boards last night.

Mar 18, 2015#237

jwhouk

I
CAN
NOT
STAND
THIS
LOSING!

Mar 18, 2015#238

blotsfan

I'll trade you our win yesterday.

Mar 18, 2015#239

HCGLNS

jwhouk said:
I
CAN
NOT
STAND
THIS
LOSING!

Mar 18, 2015#240

jwhouk

blotsfan said:
I'll trade you our win yesterday.

No, because WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA GIVE YOU ONE ON SATURDAY.

Mar 18, 2015#241

Piotyr

Blackhawks now 8-1-1 since NHL points leader Patrick Kane went down with an injury, because of course that makes sense.

Mar 24, 2015#242

HCGLNS

Leafs could learn from ...Nashville?

:confused:

Mar 24, 2015#243

jwhouk

They act so surprised to find there are hockey fans in Tennessee.

Mar 24, 2015#244

blotsfan

The predators are the perfect example of how to be a successful sun belt hockey team.

It turns out you should try to not always suck.

Mar 24, 2015#245

jwhouk

Sun Belt?

You do realize that they've had a couple of snowstorms and sub-zero weather days this past winter?[DOUBLEPOST=1427242352,1427242201][/DOUBLEPOST]First round pick Fiala on the ice tonight against les Habitants.

Mar 24, 2015#246

drifter

Thanks for the weather update Senator Inhofe.

Mar 25, 2015#247

blotsfan

jwhouk said:
Sun Belt?

You do realize that they've had a couple of snowstorms and sub-zero weather days this past winter?

Georgia gets cold and snowy sometimes too.

Mar 25, 2015#248

jwhouk

One of the two goaltenders on the ice at the Bridgestone Arena last night is going to win the Vezina.

Sadly, it will likely be the wrong one.

Mar 28, 2015#249

jwhouk

https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/CBM0ARnVAAA0mmA.mp4

Mar 28, 2015#250

checkeredhat

jwhouk said:
They act so surprised to find there are hockey fans in Tennessee.

To be fair, it's the Sun. They would be surprised if you covered your OWN eyes, then uncovered them and went "Boo!".

Mar 28, 2015#251

jwhouk

Gee, what does that little "x" mean beside your team's name in the standings?

Mar 28, 2015#252

HCGLNS

Seriously has your teams history of failure and ineptitude lead you to not know what that means? Google your own shit bro.

Mar 28, 2015#253

jwhouk

No, you're mistaken. I am not a Maple Leafs fan.

Mar 28, 2015#254

Vrii

I just don't get why you're in here talking shit every day when nobody's taking any shots at the Preds?

Mar 28, 2015#255

checkeredhat

Also if you're going to shit talk, why shit talk the Leafs? It's like picking on a disabled kid, you bully.

Mar 28, 2015#256

HCGLNS

Heh, a Bruins fan, Habs fan and myself all conspired on Thursday to convince another Habs fan that Price had pulled his groin in practice and that Tokarski would be in net as a result. He freaked out the whole day and was rather annoyed with us on Friday.

Also, War Oilers!

Mar 28, 2015#257

jwhouk

Tell your sportswriters to stop denying there's rabid hockey fandoms below the Mason-Dixon Line, and then we'll talk.

Mar 28, 2015#258

HCGLNS

Darn it Bozak, stop winning, we're trying to tank here.

jwhouk said:
Tell your sportswriters to stop denying there's rabid hockey fandoms below the Mason-Dixon Line, and then we'll talk.

Now I don't doubt that people down there where ever that line is like hockey but are they aware we dedicate 5 television channels and 64 sports analysts to discuss that fact that no trades are occurring during trade deadline day and what this actually means, and in order to separate one channel from the next lamas, monkeys and octopuses are given air time based upon their precognitive abilities, and this seemingly never ending waste of time money and resources actually generates revenue? I want you to imagine if you flipped ESPN upside down and for every mention football, baseball and basketball you talked about hockey, that's what our media is like.

Mar 28, 2015#259

Vrii

Also, how many media writers do you think there are on the boards?

Mar 28, 2015#260

jwhouk

True dat.

Either way - we clinched. Me happy.

Mar 29, 2015#261

checkeredhat

At least my Toronto Rock have clinched a playoff spot.

Mar 29, 2015#262

jwhouk

I forget - how many teams in the NLL?

EDIT: Never mind - only nine.

Mar 29, 2015#263

checkeredhat

jwhouk said:
I forget - how many teams in the NLL?

More than there were in the NHL the last time the Leafs won the cup.

Mar 29, 2015#264

HCGLNS

checkeredhat said:
At least my Toronto Rock have clinched a playoff spot.

Long ago and far away, the Rock were winning and every other team in TO was losing. Saw an American comedian at a comic show and he started to slag lacrosse, could have heard a pin drop.

Mar 29, 2015#265

checkeredhat

HCGLNS said:
Long ago and far away, the Rock were winning and every other team in TO was losing. Saw an American comedian at a comic show and he started to slag lacrosse, could have heard a pin drop.

If nit for the recent success of the Raptors, thats still more or less the case but still no one cares. basically no one follows lacrosse and I really dont understand why. Its fun as hell. Everyone who lives in a city with a box lacrosse team: go check it out its fucking awesome. I dont know about field lacrosse though. Maybe its cool. Its definitely fun to play.

Mar 29, 2015#266

jwhouk

At what point will the people of TO learn that the only way the Leafs will truly change their ways is if the seats are empty?

...And even then they still might not change.

Mar 29, 2015#267

checkeredhat

jwhouk said:
At what point will the people of TO learn that the only way the Leafs will truly change their ways is if the seats are empty?

...And even then they still might not change.

Lots of people have realized that. The problem is that season tickets are already sold out for the next 20 years or so.
It was actually only last week that the Leafs DIDN'T sell out, and had record low attendance ( around 15,000 iirc). The media is having a field day with that. It does seem like we may finally have reached a tipping point.

Apr 8, 2015#268

HCGLNS

OK guys time to start thinking about the 17th annual Halforums NHL Playoffs pool!

Apr 8, 2015#269

jwhouk

I'll take Chicago to sweep the Predators in 4 in the first round. Mortal lock.

Apr 8, 2015#270

DarkAudit

Before the mumps outbreak and Dupuis' blood clot, the Pens were looking to run away with the division. Now they're likely to miss the playoffs entirely.

Apr 9, 2015#271

blotsfan

Sabres went into this week needing a combination of either 2 Sabres points lost or 2 Coyotes points gained. Us and the Coyotes each had 3 games left.

We won on monday and arizona lost on tuesday.

I can't say I'm not starting to get a little nervous...

Apr 9, 2015#272

jwhouk

I made a proposition on a hockey-exclusive message board (ironically, with the same initials as HalForums) that would affect "tanking". Basically, after the trade deadline, the bottom 14 non-playoff teams would be ranked, 14 to 1, with points. Every time they won, one of the points would be deducted. At the end, the team would get the number of points they had left deducted from their "ping pong ball" chances at the #1 overall pick.

I don't know if it would go over well with the NHL GM's, though.

Apr 9, 2015#273

Adam

GO JETS GO!

Apr 10, 2015#274

jwhouk

You're welcome, Saint Louis.

Apr 10, 2015#275

Telephius

WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE OUT!

Apr 10, 2015#276

jwhouk

Wow, is it a major fustercluck over in the east for the Wild Card.

Boston basically has to hope Pittsburgh doesn't win the next two nights, which is impossible since the Pens face Buffalo Saturday.

And I'm trying to figure this out, but would Winnipeg face the Ducks in the first round, even if Saint Louis claims 1st overall in the Western Conference?

Apr 10, 2015#277

blotsfan

jwhouk said:
Wow, is it a major fustercluck over in the east for the Wild Card.

Boston basically has to hope Pittsburgh doesn't win the next two nights, which is impossible since the Pens face Buffalo Saturday.

And I'm trying to figure this out, but would Winnipeg face the Ducks in the first round, even if Saint Louis claims 1st overall in the Western Conference?

Dude, don't jynx us.

Apr 10, 2015#278

DarkAudit

jwhouk said:
Wow, is it a major fustercluck over in the east for the Wild Card.

Boston basically has to hope Pittsburgh doesn't win the next two nights, which is impossible since the Pens face Buffalo Saturday.

And I'm trying to figure this out, but would Winnipeg face the Ducks in the first round, even if Saint Louis claims 1st overall in the Western Conference?

Dude, don't jinx us.

Apr 10, 2015#279

jwhouk

I was wrong about one thing: Winnipeg will not necessarily face Anaheim regardless. If Saint Loo takes the RS conference title, they would face Winnipeg while either Minnesota or Chicago would cross over and play Anaheim.

And I'm sorry, but if the Pens can't beat Buffalo, they don't deserve to be in the playoffs.

Apr 10, 2015#280

checkeredhat

I may have to watch tomorrow nights games ( not the Leafs LOL no thanks)
Ottawa is too interesting. I hope they pull it off.

Apr 10, 2015#281

checkeredhat

Also, who predicting Calgary making the playoffs at the start of the season? Raise your hands.

....LIARS!

Apr 10, 2015#282

jwhouk

The Nashville Predators are a little like Nick's prom night:

-Awkward expectations
-Fast start
-Looked very promising
-Peaked way too early

Apr 10, 2015#283

blotsfan

WE DID IT!!!

Apr 10, 2015#284

Vrii

Now beat Pittsburgh, make things really fun.

Apr 10, 2015#285

checkeredhat

Yeah you've clinched last. You can play for real now if you want.

Apr 10, 2015#286

jwhouk

So that means you either get McDavid or Hobey Baker winner McEichel, hm?

That's nice. You know that the average number of goals scored over the last five seasons in the NHL by Hobey Baker Award winners is? 33. Remove all players whose last name begins with a G, and that becomes a big fat zero.

Not saying McEichel won't be great for whoever he ends up with - if not the Sabres - but it's possible he could end up being a bust.

Apr 10, 2015#287

blotsfan

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!

Apr 11, 2015#288

jwhouk

Hey, hey, I'm not saying he's going to tank. I'm just saying that the Hobey Baker winner hasn't exactly been a stellar performer in the NHL as of late. Some of it wasn't intentional (see Geoffrion, Blake).

Apr 11, 2015#289

blotsfan

In all seriousness, a lot of that is because college hockey normally doesn't get top talent like an Eichel. They tend to play in the Canadian juniors.

Apr 11, 2015#290

DarkAudit

Just having more warm bodies gives Buffalo the edge tonight.

Apr 11, 2015#291

blotsfan

I'm fairly conflicted about tonight. It'll be nice to root for the Sabres to win without feeling guilty, but I really don't want Boston to make the playoffs.

Apr 11, 2015#292

checkeredhat

And the Sens are in!

Apr 12, 2015#293

HCGLNS

So here we go! We've got

STL vs MIN
NSH vs CHI
ANA vs WIN
VAN vs CAL

MTL vs OTT
TBL vs DET
NYR vs PIT
WSH vs NYI

Apr 12, 2015#294

Piotyr

Word from Chicago is that Patrick Kane would be available for the second round and on.

Just one problem with that...

Apr 12, 2015#295

blotsfan

I haven't paid a ton of attention to the rest of the league but I'm going with Chicago-Tampa finals.

Apr 12, 2015#296

checkeredhat

I want a winnipeg ottawa final but it won't happen.

Apr 12, 2015#297

HCGLNS

HCGLNS said:
So here we go! We've got

STL vs MIN
NSH vs CHI
ANA vs WIN
VAN vs CAL

MTL vs OTT
TBL vs DET
NYR vs PIT
WSH vs NYI

But I think ANA vs WIN is a Pyrrhic victory for either team

NYR gonna rout PIT.

Apr 12, 2015#298

HCGLNS

And on a completely unrelated and expected note, the Leafs have fired everyone.

Apr 12, 2015#299

jwhouk

Piotyr said:
Word from Chicago is that Patrick Kane would be available for the second round and on.

Just one problem with that...

Nope, they have a walkover in the first round.

Apr 12, 2015#300

jwhouk

STL vs MIN - Blues in 6
NSH vs CHI - Hawks sweep.
ANA vs WIN - Ducks in 5
VAN vs CAL - Nucks in 6

MTL vs OTT - Habs in 5
TBL vs DET - Tampa in 7
NYR vs PIT - Rags in 5
WSH vs NYI - Isles in 6

Apr 12, 2015#301

jwhouk

HCGLNS said:
And on a completely unrelated and expected note, the Leafs have fired everyone.

I lost track - what number "five year plan" are y'all on, again?

Apr 12, 2015#302

checkeredhat

Starks, Tullys and Karstarks= Leafs GM, Leafs Coach and Leafs Scouts
Freys and Boltons= Shanahan, Hunter and Dubas

Apr 12, 2015#303

jwhouk

Maybe they just need to fire everyone and start over with people who know nothing about hockey. Couldn't do any worse.

Apr 12, 2015#304

blotsfan

Sabres fired Ted Nolan today. Not particularly surprising, but the GM said he didn't expect this team to come in last until the Kane trade, which is pretty absurd to think.

Apr 13, 2015#305

HCGLNS

Holy Shit! Dallas Star Captain Jamie Benn won the scoring title this year, and is going to have critical hip surgery now. He played through the pain for the entire season!

Apr 13, 2015#306

jwhouk

There you go. Although I will say that his last four points were gifts.

Apr 14, 2015#307

Piotyr

Piotyr said:
Word from Chicago is that Patrick Kane would be available for the second round and on.

Just one problem with that...

Apparently Kane just got cleared to play tomorrow by the team doctor.

Apr 15, 2015#308

jwhouk

I call shenanigans. I think the Hawks set Kane down to avoid Salary Cap hell issues.

Apr 16, 2015#309

checkeredhat

This Ottawa Montreal series is gonna be goooooood.

Apr 16, 2015#310

jwhouk

And now the entire National Hockey League knows why Seth Jones dropped from 1st overall to fifth in the 2013 draft.

Apr 16, 2015#311

blotsfan

Racism?

Apr 16, 2015#312

HCGLNS

4th wasn't it? And mostly because MacKinnon used him as a revolving door during the Memorial Cup.

Apr 16, 2015#313

jwhouk

HCGLNS said:
4th wasn't it? And mostly because MacKinnon used him as a revolving door during the Memorial Cup.

Like Keith did to him last night.

Apr 16, 2015#314

checkeredhat

James mirtle tweeted odds on Leafs' new hires.

Apr 16, 2015#315

blotsfan

But Babcock is going to be the Sabres new coach.

Why is Babcock an option for these teams anyways? Has he really fallen out of favor in Detroit?

Apr 16, 2015#316

checkeredhat

blotsfan said:
But Babcock is going to be the Sabres new coach.

Why is Babcock an option for these teams anyways? Has he really fallen out of favor in Detroit?

There's been rumours MLSE has been courting Babcock for ages now. I have no idea where the rumours started or why they apparently might actually have some weight to them, but a man can dream.

Apr 16, 2015#317

checkeredhat

I think it's all based on Babcock's contract being up soon and him not wanting to discuss his contract during the season. The media has taken that as a sign he wants out, but as far as I know, all it means for sure is he doesn't want to discuss his contract during the season.

Apr 17, 2015#318

jwhouk

I still say just find 26 guys from rec and beer leagues in the GTA, pay 'em all NHL minimum, and pay the rest of the money for a coach.

Results couldn't be much worse.

Apr 17, 2015#319

HCGLNS

Ok somebody called him Pre-K Subban because of his temper tantrums. And I lol'd.

Apr 17, 2015#320

jwhouk

NHL OFFICIATING TEST

Question 6. How many men are on the ice in this photo?

Apr 17, 2015#321

jwhouk

And. The Series. Is. TIED.

I'm starting to believe again...

Apr 18, 2015#322

jwhouk

Congratulations to the Edmonton Oilers for winning the Connor McDavid Trophy.

And to Buffalo for the Jack Eichel Award.

Apr 18, 2015#323

blotsfan

Very happy to have Eichel. At least McDavid didn't go to Toronto.

Apr 19, 2015#324

jwhouk

Eichel has said already that he plans to play for BU this season, as he wants to win a championship.

...I'll just let that comment sit there for a moment.

Apr 19, 2015#325

blotsfan

Where did you see that? From what I've read, it doesn't sound like he has the grades for another year.

Apr 19, 2015#326

HCGLNS

I still hope we get Strome.

Apr 19, 2015#327

jwhouk

Eichel has been named one of BU's alternate captain for 2015-16.

He already knew that he was likely headed to either Buffalo or Arizona - and the latter only if the Sabres would have won the McDavid Sweepstakes.

He's been cryptic in interviews, but I don't think he cares for either destination.[DOUBLEPOST=1429468989,1429468508][/DOUBLEPOST]By the way: there really isn't much difference between #1 overall and #2 overall, in terms of NHL value. Over the last 25 drafts, the difference is just over 9% in relative games played (actual games vs. maximum possible).

Apr 19, 2015#328

blotsfan

My rebuttal:

Apr 19, 2015#329

HCGLNS

watch him go like 7th over all.

Apr 19, 2015#330

blotsfan

0% chance we don't draft him unless he dies or something.

Apr 19, 2015#331

checkeredhat

Says it all:

Apr 19, 2015#332

blotsfan

Yeah its pretty clear he wanted to go to Toronto.

Apr 19, 2015#333

jwhouk

You never know. Maybe he wanted to go to Arizona...

Apr 19, 2015#334

Jay

Apr 20, 2015#335

Frank

checkeredhat said:
Says it all:

Suck it up buttercup!

Apr 20, 2015#336

HCGLNS

I'm getting a 93 vibe from Price.

Apr 20, 2015#337

jwhouk

Oh, please. Practically every hockey fan in the metro NYC area is getting a 94 vibe.

Apr 20, 2015#338

HCGLNS

Am I a Habs fan? No it's just reminding me of their string of winning games only on goaltending. They had what 11 games go to OT that year?

Also go Rangers.

Apr 20, 2015#339

DarkAudit

Are the Pens gonna win it all? Not bloody likely. But I could not let that statement go unchallenged.

Apr 20, 2015#340

HCGLNS

It's weird I have no dog in the race so I go by the players left that I like.

Go Lundqvist!

Apr 20, 2015#341

jwhouk

I'm two games from not having a Smilodon in the race, but I can't see MTL beating the Rags.

Apr 20, 2015#342

Adam

GO JETS GO?

Apr 20, 2015#343

checkeredhat

Frank said:
Suck it up buttercup!

Apr 20, 2015#344

blotsfan

Worked out well for them.

Apr 20, 2015#345

jwhouk

That trade had a very long history, touching more than the Flyers and Nords/Avs.

Apr 21, 2015#346

jwhouk

This team's gonna age me.

Apr 22, 2015#347

jwhouk

Thanks for getting me in trouble, there, Nick.

Apr 22, 2015#348

checkeredhat

Daniel Carcillo's piece on Steve Montador and Mental Health issues in hockey:
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/nhl-daniel-carcillo-steve-montador-video/

Apr 24, 2015#349

DarkAudit

THBBPPT.

*Lonely Man Theme plays*

*walks forlornly out of playoffs*

Apr 24, 2015#350

Jay

I hope Habs lose next 2 so they hire a real coach.

Apr 27, 2015#351

jwhouk

Welp, that sucked.
#IsItOctoberYet?

Apr 27, 2015#352

PatrThom

DarkAudit said:
*Lonely Man Theme plays*

There's what, 7-8 people here who know what that is?

--Patrick

Apr 27, 2015#353

DarkAudit

PatrThom said:
There's what, 7-8 people here who know what that is?

--Patrick

And they're already in this thread.

Apr 28, 2015#354

jwhouk

DarkAudit said:
And they're already in this thread.

Sadly, it's my theme song.

Apr 28, 2015#355

checkeredhat

jwhouk said:
Sadly, it's my theme song.

I thought that was Chelsea Dagger.

Apr 28, 2015#356

jwhouk

checkeredhat said:
I thought that was Chelsea Dagger.

#### you.

Apr 28, 2015#357

DarkAudit

jwhouk said:
#### you.

I'll hold him, you hit him.

Apr 29, 2015#358

jwhouk

DarkAudit said:
I'll hold him, you hit him.

Five minutes well spent.

Apr 29, 2015#359

blotsfan

Well now that Detroit is done, we can see if these Babcock rumors have any truth to them.

Apr 29, 2015#360

jwhouk

If Poile had any cajones, he'd call him and offer him the Nashville GM position, then announce his own retirement.

Babcock can deal with Lavi himself.

Apr 30, 2015#361

HCGLNS

Start the next round!
NYR vs WAS
MTL vs TIL

ANA vs CAL
CHI vs MIN

Get your picks in and this round include the series length in games.

Apr 30, 2015#362

jwhouk

TIL?

Rags in 7
Habs in 7
Quacks in 5
Hawks in 6

Apr 30, 2015#363

HCGLNS

NYR 6 TBL 5 CAL 7 CHI 5

So we all like NYR and CHI eh?

May 1, 2015#364

blotsfan

Happy May Day!

May 1, 2015#365

jwhouk

Sometimes Rick Jeannerette just needs to chill out....

May 7, 2015#366

CrimsonSoul

BErt said:
...Does Montreal know this round started?

Montreal did pretty good last night up until the last second of the 3rd period anyway.

May 7, 2015#367

jwhouk

If Tampa and the Ducks win out... Oh, the howling that will come from the Great White North....

May 7, 2015#368

blotsfan

Don't jinx it.

May 8, 2015#369

Piotyr

Damn, Kane had outscored the Wild for the series until that late flurry.

May 8, 2015#370

jwhouk

blotsfan said:
Don't jinx it.

...I just did, didn't I?

Now les Habitants are gonna come back and make like the Kings last year, and I'm gonna look stupid.

May 12, 2015#371

blotsfan

Another year, another American Stanley Cup champ.

May 13, 2015#372

jwhouk

Yep. Sorry, Canada.

May 13, 2015#373

HCGLNS

Round 3! Team, # games # OT, COMBO points now available!

May 14, 2015#374

jwhouk

Anaheim in 7, three in OT.
Rangers in 6, two OT.

May 14, 2015#375

HCGLNS

May 14, 2015#376

jwhouk

Burrrrrrnnnn.

May 14, 2015#377

HCGLNS

CHI in 6 1 OT
NYR in 7 3 OT

May 14, 2015#378

Piotyr

Yep, this is happening.

May 20, 2015#379

blotsfan

I never wanted babcock anyways

May 20, 2015#380

jwhouk

What?

I thought...

EDIT: OHHHH. ISWYDT.

May 20, 2015#381

checkeredhat

Hey guys how's it going?

May 20, 2015#382

checkeredhat

BErt said:
8 years $50MIL holy pants

Now you are beginning to understand just how insanely, stupidly, crazily, Scrooge McDuckily rich MLSE really is.

May 20, 2015#383

jwhouk

Welp, so much for Babcock's career.

TO: where good hockey minds get hockey Alzheimer's.

May 20, 2015#384

Jay

The press conference tomorrow is going to be a joke. No matter what he says will not remove the thought on everyone's mind. $$$$$

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May 20, 2015#385

HCGLNS

May 20, 2015#386

checkeredhat

jwhouk said:
Welp, so much for Babcock's career.

TO: where good hockey minds get ~~hockey Alzheimer's.~~ PAID, SON

May 20, 2015#387

HCGLNS

Not only will he be the highest paid coach in the NHL but he will have the most vacation days each year!

May 21, 2015#388

Jay

I wanted to coach for toronto because BWEFJFJ DFFNVDFE UREEGHT*THROWS UP A MONEY BAG*

May 21, 2015#389

HCGLNS

I'm of the mind that a major reason for him leaving Detroit is that his family wants to leave the city of Detroit. The city itself is literally dying.

May 22, 2015#390

HCGLNS

I remember reading an article about the city throwing out the union agreement with the teachers because school enrollment had dropped 70% in 10 years.

May 22, 2015#391

HCGLNS

I was simply using a very simple to understand metric about the health of a city. I could have just as easily cited that the entire city's population has decline by 25% in 10 years, or the current housing values or crime rate or the city's bankruptcy. All point to a very unhealthy city but due to the politics of the NHL will never be discussed openly in regards to hockey decisions.

May 22, 2015#392

jwhouk

Detroyit is Detroyit. It doesn't need any help in being badmouthed.

As for tonight - if tonight's game ends at six past Lundqvist, I think two things will happen:

1. Cam Talbot starts in game five.
2. Handshakes all around after said game five.

May 25, 2015#393

jwhouk

Death, taxes, and Chicago will find a way to take a game to Overtime - and win it.

May 25, 2015#394

jwhouk

Well. That was quick.

(Oh, sorry, Wil Wheaton, I didn't see you there...)

May 28, 2015#395

blotsfan

Dan Bylsma is 1-0 in Cup finals vs mike babcock

May 29, 2015#396

jwhouk

We are now officially facing less than 10 games remaining in the 2015 NHL season.

The only thing we know: Game 1 of the Stanley Cup finals, on June 3rd, will NOT be in Chicago.

May 29, 2015#397

DarkAudit

If the Rangers win, I will already be in NYC for either Game 6 or 7 if it goes that far.

May 29, 2015#398

jwhouk

Game Seven would be at MSG. Take out the second mortgage for tickets now.

May 29, 2015#399

DarkAudit

jwhouk said:
Game Seven would be at MSG. Take out the second mortgage for tickets now.

Or if someone else here knows someone who knows someone who knows someone...

May 29, 2015#400

jwhouk

This is Nooo Yawk you're talking about.

May 29, 2015#401

blotsfan

And also irrelevant

May 29, 2015#402

jwhouk

Yep. Unless he changes his travel plans and goes to Tampa/St. Pete instead...

Now then:

QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK!

May 29, 2015#403

DarkAudit

(insert Blackadder Christmas Carol clip where he says "well, so much for that!" and punches a hole in a portrait of Queenie.)

May 30, 2015#404

jwhouk

I.

HATE.

CHELSEA DAGGER.

May 30, 2015#405

blotsfan

blotsfan said:
I haven't paid a ton of attention to the rest of the league but I'm going with Chicago-Tampa finals.

Awwww yeah

May 31, 2015#406

jwhouk

Chicago in a sweep.

Toews scores Cup winner.

Kane will win the Connie.

Two of the games will go to overtime.

I will STILL hate "Chelsea Dagger."

May 31, 2015#407

DarkAudit

jwhouk said:
I will STILL hate "Chelsea Dagger."

May 31, 2015#408

Piotyr

jwhouk said:
I.

HATE.

CHELSEA DAGGER.

Be honest. Even though the game was in Anaheim last night, you still had the song in your head after every Hawks goal.

May 31, 2015#409

jwhouk

That's only because I've heard it WAY TOO F'ING MUCH when we played them in round one.

Jun 1, 2015#410

HCGLNS

Picking Tampa in 7, 3 OT, Bishop for the Conne.

Jun 2, 2015#411

DarkAudit

"What is violence, anyway?" - James Neal

So many "good job, buddy"s in there.

Jun 4, 2015#412

PatrThom

--Patrick

Jun 4, 2015#413

DarkAudit

PatrThom said:
--Patrick

Which may explain why hi-fi enthusiasts on a budget recommend using hockey pucks to isolate their gear so often.

Jun 9, 2015#414

HCGLNS

NBC wants play off beards to go away.

Jun 9, 2015#415

blotsfan

That's one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long while.

Jun 11, 2015#416

DarkAudit

Welp...

Jun 11, 2015#417

jwhouk

Yeah. Heard that.

Jun 13, 2015#418

jwhouk

Schadenfreude.

Mayor of Glendale gets tased (for charity) - by a Coyotes fan.

And not just any Yotes fan - it was Ronda Pearson, the gal who chewed out Weiers at the COG Board Meeting where they chose to break the lease:

Jun 13, 2015#419

jwhouk

Will Wheaton (Twitter) said:
So the player controlling the Lightning had their controller come unplugged on that Chicago goal, right?

My Response On Twitter said:
Actually, I think the player-character of Ben Bishop rolled a natural 1 on his dexterity check...

Jun 13, 2015#420

Terrik

Well, shit.

Jun 15, 2015#421

Sparhawk

Chelsea Dagger playing for the Champs. Again.

Jun 15, 2015#422

Jay

Dynasty

Jun 15, 2015#423

Terrik

Well I'm pissed.

Jun 15, 2015#424

Sparhawk

Duncan Keith wins the Conn Smythe trophy.

Jun 15, 2015#425

Piotyr

I am...not pissed.

Jun 16, 2015#426

jwhouk

Have I mentioned lately that I HATE CHELSEA DAGGER?

Only thing that made me tear up, though, was Toews handing the Cup off to Kimmo.

Jun 21, 2015#427

DarkAudit

From the KHL playoffs. Geoff Platt for Lokomotiv Yaroslavl...

Jun 26, 2015#428

jwhouk

@blotsfan: Congrats, I think you may have just put yourself in the playoffs this year.

Though I don't think you should rely on Leggy for team leadership. Just sayin'.

Jun 26, 2015#429

blotsfan

Yeah...this was quite a day. We went from having no offensive talent to the top center from the 2014 draft possibly playing on the 4th line.

Jun 26, 2015#430

checkeredhat

I don't think we have any Calgary fans here but we should probably acknowledge that trade. Yeesh, Boston.

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Jun 29, 2015#431

HCGLNS

Shit just got real real, real fast.

The LA Kings have terminated Mike Richards for cause instead of buying out his contract!

Jun 29, 2015#432

blotsfan

They're gonna get sued so hard.

Jun 30, 2015#433

Vrii

Really curious what the "incident" was - rumour is it happened at the border, and was bad enough for Dean Lombardi to back out of trade negotiations to unload the contract. Gotta be something big.

Jun 30, 2015#434

jwhouk

Trying to buy PED's, perhaps?

Jun 30, 2015#435

HCGLNS

Well it has to be serious because you need the leagues permission to terminate a contract. Supposed to be a fast tracked appeal process in July so each party can get ready for next season.

And apparently the cause is known by many but they are all not talking unless called as witnesses.

Jun 30, 2015#436

checkeredhat

TMZ seems to think they know what the incident was:
http://www.tmz.com/2015/06/30/nhls-...ied-about-oxycodone-drama-at-canadian-border/

Jun 30, 2015#437

jwhouk

Is Oxycodone a banned substance in the NHL?

Jun 30, 2015#438

PatrThom

jwhouk said:
Is Oxycodone a banned substance in the NHL?

Irrespective of the NHL, it's a Schedule II controlled substance.

--Patrick

Jun 30, 2015#439

blotsfan

But the NHL has an illegal substance policy already in place. The kings have no buisness voiding the contract like that.

Jun 30, 2015#440

Sparhawk

What is it isn't an abuse case, but a smuggling or dealing type charge? We really don't have any details of this incident, except that the Kings stopped trade talks and let him go and terminated contract.

Jun 30, 2015#441

Jay

Guy got arrested for this and didn't even tell the team directly? Ich.

Jul 1, 2015#442

PatrThom

Article says he wasn't arrested, just questioned. This is a thing that happens at the border all the time.

--Patrick

Jul 1, 2015#443

jwhouk

Okay, @blotsfan, give me the 411 on Hodgson.

Jul 1, 2015#444

blotsfan

Very talented and has a lot of potential but he was a complete disaster last year (13 points in 78 games). Defensively he might be the worst player in the league (not an exaggeration).

I think he could turn around because he'll be away from the dumpster-fire of a team that was the 2014-15 Buffalo Sabres. I'd be upset about losing him if he wasn't so expensive, so for what you signed him for, I think its a great low-risk/high-reward contract.

Jul 1, 2015#445

HCGLNS

Happy Canada Day! or for this thread Phil Kessel Trade day!

Jul 1, 2015#446

jwhouk

So - when should we start a new thread for the new season?

I've got a title in mind: "Chelsea Dagger Must DIE!"

EDIT: Or do we just wanna drop the Season notation and just make this the NHL thread?

Jul 11, 2015#447

HCGLNS

The Chicago Blackhawks are sending three-time Stanley Cup champion Patrick Sharp and defensive prospect Stephen Johns to the Dallas Stars for veteran defenceman Trevor Daley and forward Ryan Garbutt.

Jul 11, 2015#448

blotsfan

Sabres had their prospect scrimmage yesterday. About 17k people went, which is nice because it was $10 per ticket and all proceeds go to charity. I did not get to go, but from what I've read Eichel struggled somewhat, but also had some great moments and was on a much worse team. On the other hand it sounds like Reinhart has gotten a lot stronger and it showed, which is good because that was his big weakness for his 9 games last year.

Jul 11, 2015#449

jwhouk

Haven't heard about how the scrimmage went today.

Oh, and I guess there was some snooty guy from Hah-vahd there, for some reason.

Jul 13, 2015#450

HCGLNS

Continuing the Buffalo talk: Ryan O'Reilly just got drunk and drove his truck through a window of a Tim Hortons. Charges have been laid.

Jul 13, 2015#451

blotsfan

I DONT WANNA TALK ABOUT IT

Jul 14, 2015#452

jwhouk

Welp, who's the top of this year's draft class? Because whoever's #2? That's who you're gettin', @blotsfan.

Jul 17, 2015#453

DarkAudit

found this via reddit. It's The Phil.

Jul 18, 2015#454

jwhouk

Yanno, he's gonna wish he went to Nashville.

Jul 18, 2015#455

blotsfan

I've actually heard that Nashville is one of NHL players favorite teams to play for because Nashville is such a fun city and they have good fans, but not enough that they can't still go out without being recognized.

Jul 18, 2015#456

jwhouk

Yes, true - but for some reason it still seems like a significant number of NHL'ers don't want to play there.

My suspicion resides in the Connie Mack-like figure who's the head of hockey ops.

Jul 23, 2015#457

HCGLNS

The Leafs just acquired Lou Lamoriello from NJ.

Jul 23, 2015#458

jwhouk

That increases the number of people in their front office to have their name on the Cup to what... three?

Aug 14, 2015#459

DarkAudit

The Phil...

Aug 14, 2015#460

jwhouk

Uhm, he's worn black and gold before...

Sep 7, 2015#461

DarkAudit

Vitaly Anikeyenko
Mikhail Balandin
Gennady Churilov
Pavol Demitra
Robert Dietrich
Alexander Galimov
Marat Kalimulin
Alexander Kalyanin
Andrei Kiryukhin
Nikita Klyukin
Stefan Liv
Jan Marek
Sergei Ostapchuk
Karel Rachůnek
Ruslan Salei
Maxim Shuvalov
Kārlis Skrastiņš
Pavel Snurnitsyn
Daniil Sobchenko
Ivan Tkachenko
Pavel Trakhanov
Yuri Urychev
Josef Vašíček
Alexander Vasyunov
Alexander Vyukhin
Artem Yarchuk

Yuri Bakhvalov
Aleksandr Belyaev
Alexander Karpovtsev
Igor Korolev
Nikolai Krivonosov
Yevgeni Kunnov
Vyacheslav Kuznetsov
Brad McCrimmon
Vladimir Piskunov
Yevgeni Sidorov
Andrei Zimin

Nadezhda Maksumova
Vladimir Matyushin
Elena Sarmatova
Elena Shavina
Andrei Solomentsev
Igor Zhivelov
Sergei Zhuravlev

Sep 7, 2015#462

blotsfan

Man, that was the most depressing. I remember after it happened I was googling Galimov hourly just to see how he was doing. I don't know why, but it really upset me when he died.

Sep 7, 2015#463

jwhouk

Still miss him.

Sep 10, 2015#464

blotsfan

@jwhouk what do you think about Cody franson? Is he good for 2 years 6.6 million?

Sep 10, 2015#465

jwhouk

Oh, I think he could be a real solid NHL defensAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

Sorry, I was trying to say that with a straight face.

Sep 10, 2015#466

blotsfan

:/ the general consensus seems to be that he's a good player for the price. Why do you think he's so awful?

Sep 10, 2015#467

jwhouk

The "general consensus" was concentrated in a town a few hundred miles to the north of your location on the shores of Lake Ontario.

He's not going to make anyone in Smashville forget Weber or Josi. And I think he suffered from a severe case of Thomas Wolfe-itis ("You can't go home again.").

Sep 10, 2015#468

Vrii

blotsfan said:
:/ the general consensus seems to be that he's a good player for the price.

He is. Less than $4m/season, should be good for 30+ points, and a short term - there's no risk and potentially pretty high reward. Expecting to get a Shea Weber-calibre player in free agency, let alone at that price tag, is so absurd it's not even worth bringing up.

Sep 11, 2015#469

jwhouk

Shea... WEBER?

If he was a Shea-Weber-type player, he'd still be with the Predators.

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