Do you identify as a feminist?

[Necronic]

I don't think equal treatment of men and women is possible. Unlike racial issuese or even issues of sexuality (gay straight etc), gender has a really significant physical difference. There's also a significant mental difference, probably more significant than in those other groups (although I am not sure). You can't, for instance, ever have men and women compete in certain physical events together. I do think that more sports should be open to both genders though, some of them its clear that women can do just as well (if not better).

On a more personal level, there's also the fact that I will always treate women differently for 1 reason. I want to have sex with them. This isn't meant to be a flippant comment, its more the fact that biologically I (and most men) have a deep set reason for looking at women differently than I look at men. The same is, I'm sure true of women and how they see men (in that it is different from how they see women.)

The point is that the world can't be homogonized down to a system where we're all equal.

HOWEVER

This only applies to life outside the world of business and laws (ie your personal life). In business we have to do our best to pretend we have blinders on to anything that differentiates people other than their ability.

 

[makare]

The pursuit of sex isn't really a gender issue though. It is kind of universal.

 

[MindDetective]

But the way that pursuit occurs is different, I would say inherently so, for men and women.

 

[makare]

Sure but if you are talking about perceiving the opposite gender in the frame work of sex it is pretty much the same. Women assess men for those purposes and oggle guys too. So women treat men differently than they would women within that framework (assuming they aren't gay of course).

 

[MindDetective]

So very true. And that does underscore I think the fundamental problem with many equality issues. Not all, obviously.

 

[makare]

curse our human desire for sexy times!

 

[Adam]

There would be no way in hell you'd catch me getting a manicure. That kind of pretentiousness exceeds even my bullshit meter. It's called 'nail-clippers'. It's not like nails are going to look like

but nails that look like this

don't require a manicure. They just require looking after yourself (Much like taking regular showers, combing your hair, shaving, etc. None of which require a woman or an effeminate man to groom me)

 

[Chazwozel]

There would be no way in hell you'd catch me getting a manicure. That kind of pretentiousness exceeds even my bullshit meter. It's called 'nail-clippers'. It's not like nails are going to look like

but nails that look like this

don't require a manicure. They just require looking after yourself (Much like taking regular showers, combing your hair, shaving, etc. None of which require a woman or an effeminate man to groom me)

Obviously you're insecure about yourself because you don't want to go to the local salon and get a manni and pedi. OOOHHHHHHhhh MAKEOVER TIME! I'm coming up to Canada, and we can get our nails done together! WHAT FUN! While we're there we can get a bikini wax and have them curl our eyelashes. It'll be so much fun.

 

[makare]

Guys seem to like getting a professional shave, straight razor, blah blah blah you can shave at home. Why is getting your nails done professionally any different? Sure I can get a manicure at home, in fact I do because I be po' but I dont have the same equipment or talent as the manicurist at a shop.

Chaz his argument has nothing to do with being insecure. Stop being a spaz.

 

[Chazwozel]

Guys seem to like getting a professional shave, straight razor, blah blah blah you can shave at home. Why is getting your nails done professionally any different? Sure I can get a manicure at home, in fact I do because I be po' but I dont have the same equipment or talent as the manicurist at a shop.

Chaz his argument has nothing to do with being insecure. Stop being a spaz.

Why don't you go get a professional shave with a straight razor then, smart ass?

 

[makare]

what the hell would they shave? my legs? I don't even think that is possible.

 

[Chazwozel]

what the hell would they shave? my legs? I don't even think that is possible.

So...

Why the hell does a man need a manicure?

 

[makare]

because men and women both have nails? I don't grow facial hair so that comparison doesn't make sense.

 

[ThatGrinningIdiot!]

what the hell would they shave? my legs? I don't even think that is possible.

So...

Why the hell does a man need a manicure?[/QUOTE]

They don't. Different strokes for different blokes and all that, I couldn't help but think less of any guy who went out to get a manicure.

 

[makare]

My point was refuting the argument against going out and having a grooming task performed professionally when it could easily be done at home.

If going out and getting a shave is ok then getting nails groomed should also be the same. It is still pretentious. That argument is just faulty against it.

 

[Chazwozel]

what the hell would they shave? my legs? I don't even think that is possible.

So...

Why the hell does a man need a manicure?[/QUOTE]

They don't. Different strokes for different blokes and all that, but I couldn't help but think less of any guy who went out to get a manicure.[/QUOTE]

Oh you're just being insecure. Come now, we should get our legs waxed to ease our minds.

 

[makare]

chaz loves the salon.


but seriously, if they offer to curl your eyelashes just say no. i mean wtf.

 

[ThatGrinningIdiot!]

My point was refuting the argument against going out and having a grooming task performed professionally when it could easily be done at home.

If going out and getting a shave is ok then getting nails groomed should also be the same. It is still pretentious. That argument is just faulty against it.

Men and women have different ways to reward themselves. Women go out and get a manicure, and men get a shave. I merely pointed out that I would be weirded out to see a man getting his nails done, the reaction would be the same if I saw a woman getting her beard shaved.

 

[Chazwozel]

chaz loves the salon.


but seriously, if they offer to curl your eyelashes just say no. i mean wtf.

I do now. I had no idea they waxed out your asshairs!

 

[makare]

Apparently some men get a manicure >.>

 

[Adam]

Apparently some men get a manicure >.>

If I'm going to a salon, I'm getting

not

 

[makare]

I think men in general might enjoy pedicures more than manicures. I mean who doesn't like a foot massage. Ticklish people I suppose... the pussies.

 

[Adam]

I think men in general might enjoy pedicures more than manicures. I mean who doesn't like a foot massage. Ticklish people I suppose... the pussies.

I will say I love hot chicks cutting my hair, especially when they wash it first and get all lathered up and give me a deep scalp massage. Mmmm. The idea of someone cutting my nails, pushing back cuticles, applying polish, not so much. Maybe it's the fact that they're in my face trying to chat with me as they do a service typically associated with women that irritates/bothers me. If I could cut my hands off, send them in for maintenance while I sit in the waiting room with a dirty mag or something, and then they could get reattached afterwards - that appeals.

 

[makare]

ok just to be clear you do not need to get polish during a manicure. some women don't and most men don't.

 

[Adam]

ok just to be clear you do not need to get polish during a manicure. some women don't and most men don't.

I don't get the purpose of cuticle-pressing either. So, the only benefit of a manicure at this point is cutting my nails, and holding hands with a complete stranger while they stare at me intensely. FUN...

 

[makare]

Sometimes there is a hand massage, I dont have cuticle issues so no pressing. My nails just look better after they have been taken care of professionally because they have products that make them healthier.

The cuticle pressing is mostly for people whose cuticle have overgrown the nail bed, which looks weird and mutant like. In serious cases they cut them. Bleh.

Also, they are generally looking at your nails. If your manicurist is staring at you you may have something in your teeth or perhaps a booger.

 

[Adam]

Also, they are generally looking at your nails. If your manicurist is staring at you you may have something in your teeth or perhaps a booger.

You have to understand - my sexiness is awe-inspiring.

 

[makare]

Im going to stick with assuming you have a booger.

 

[Element 117]

slightly off topic. There are quite a few men's salons here that give massages, manicures and pedicures, the whole nine yards. They are a big hit with hetero masculine men. Why? Because all the salon staff are all college students who wear lingerie and bikinis.

 

[Adam]

slightly off topic. There are quite a few men's salons here that give massages, manicures and pedicures, the whole nine yards. They are a big hit with hetero masculine men. Why? Because all the salon staff are all college students who wear lingerie and bikinis.

That appeals to me, but I still wouldn't get a manicure or pedicure.

 

[Sara_2814]

the guy who gets manicures. so any guy who does so.


I agree on the pretentious Sara. I feel the same way about women who get their hair done every week. It's just annoying. But hey they can afford it whatevs I guess.

We all have our indulgences. I get labeled pretentious because I love my Apple iDevices. :lol:

I don't get manicures, but I can understand the appeal. However, when you get fake nails that make it impossible to use your hands, you've gone too far. D:

 

[makare]

Oh yeah sometimes I see women's nails and I am like.. what the shit!?

I loved my fake nails. They were pretty short though. I couldn't afford to keep them and I don't think I could take the pain to get them again. Holy shit I have a high tolerance for pain but that stuff they put on your nail to adhere the nail goo burns like fucking acid.

 

[HCGLNS]

what the hell would they shave? my legs? I don't even think that is possible.

It's not only possible, but when done correctly borders on erotic stimulation for the woman.

 

[makare]

someone comes near my legs (or anywhere on my body for that matter) with a straight razor, the last thing ill be feeling is erotic.

 

[HCGLNS]

The idea that a straight razor is dangerous is merely propaganda developed by the Gillette Shaving company. Everything about using them contravenes how to use them in a dangerous manner.