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#1

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

I'll just leave this here. :D


#2

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

oHHHHHHH

Rocky Top, you'll always be
Home Sweet Home to me
Good ol' Rocky Top
WHOOOOOO
Rocky Top, Tennessee


#3

Dave

Dave

Go Hawkeyes!! Don't suck as bad as you are supposed to this year!

(They had 25 guys graduate last season.)


#4

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

The eyes of Texas are upon youuuuu
all the live long day!!!!

This looks to be the last season of Big 12 football. Texas A&M finally has put together a competitive team for the first time in Decades. Now they want to go get pwnd in the SEC and be a whipping boy like Arkansas. It would be nice to see Texas refuse A&M's rivalry after the switch.


#5

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

The eyes of Texas are upon youuuuu
all the live long day!!!!

This looks to be the last season of Big 12 football. Texas A&M finally has put together a competitive team for the first time in Decades. Now they want to go get pwnd in the SEC and be a whipping boy like Arkansas. It would be nice to see Texas refuse A&M's rivalry after the switch.
I hope OU AND texas stomp all over A&M. Actually, I just want OU to stomp on everyone this season.


#6

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

The way I see it, the next move will be made by the Big East or the ACC. It's hard to see both conferences remaining as BCS automatic qualifiers 3 to 4 years from now.

The preferred move in these parts would be WVU and Pitt to the ACC. And maybe Syracuse. Other voices suggest Maryland and BC to the Big East. I can't say the conference would be all that open to BC returning after the way they left.


#7

Mathias

Mathias





#8

General Specific

General Specific





YOU CAN'T LICK OUR COCKS!


#9

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Oh FFS.

Lightning delays in Morgantown started at 6pm. They didn't get going again until after 9pm. Then more delays just after the 4th quarter started. They still won't call the game.


#10

jwhouk

jwhouk

I couldn't find it - what's the record for longest regulation game in college (or pro!) history?

Oh, and:


Added at: 18:01
And, to be complete - my THREE TIME (and DEFENDING) NATIONAL CHAMPION Alma Mater:



#11

blotsfan

blotsfan



#12

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Another round of musical chairs. Texas A&M to the SEC was supposedly a done deal, until Baylor sued.

If the deal gets done, the SEC will need a 14th team. WVU and Mizzou are the top candidates so far. Mountaineer fans are salivating at this prospect. WVU is really the biggest fish in the Big East pond. On a national level, who else has comparable name recognition?

Today's rumor, BYU to join the Big XII, contingent on Oklahoma staying in the conference.

Local discussion thinks the ACC and Big East will have to merge in order to survive. That would make an absolutely super-uber-mega conference on the basketball side.


#13

blotsfan

blotsfan

Mizzou would struggle mightily in the SEC, but it'd be better than being stuck in Conference USA.


#14

General Specific

General Specific

Well, Texas A&M is almost assuredly going to the SEC West, joining the side with their former rivals Arkansas. So, to balance things, we'd need another SEC East team. WVU might be a good fit, but a more interesting one would be Clemson. Big rivals with my Carolina Gamecocks. Maybe we could get WVU, Virginia, & Virginia Tech as well. That'd make things lots of fun. Throw in the likes of Florida State, Miami (FL) assuming they survive, and any others in the area. We could make an SEC North & SEC South division as well. Then, have a little mini-playoff for the SEC crown and the winner would automatically move on to the BCS championship against a team chosen by computers. I see no down side to that.


#15

jwhouk

jwhouk

Four "Superconferences" of 16 teams each? That'd mean a playoff - but it'd also mean the death of the other conferences in D1-BCS.


#16

HoboNinja

HoboNinja



ISU es #1!


#17

General Specific

General Specific

South Carolina 45 - Georgia 41

Allow me to say, to any Georgia fans on the board.... We really escaped with one there. Could NOT stop you guys unless we made an amazing play to force a fumble and score a TD. It was a sloppy game on both sides.


#18

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Texas squeaked one out... but it is still a W.


#19

Enresshou

Enresshou

Holy hell, Michigan; that game was like an abusive relationship until the last three minutes...


#20

HoboNinja

HoboNinja

So far it feels damn good to be a Cyclone this season. Hopefully we can keep this streak up.


#21

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

ROCKY TOP, BITCH


#22

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Oliver Luck better get off his ass and fast. The Pitt and Syracuse to ACC story has gained much more traction in the media in the last 24 hours than WVU to SEC.


#23

jwhouk

jwhouk

Varsity, Varsity
U-rah-rah Wis-CON-sin
Praise to thee, we sing (we sing)
Praise to thee our Alma Mater
U-rah-rah Wis-con-sin

U-RAH-RAH WIS-CON-SIN
U-RAH-RAH WIS-CON-SIN
U-RAH-RAH WIS-CON-SIN
YEAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

---

Oh, and:

Warhawks, we're the Warhawks,
Shouting out our bat-tle cry
So beat the drums and let the trumpets blow
On to victory go, Go!
Warhawks, we're the Warhawks,
Proud to bear that name
So take the ball and let's go, Whitewater
Win this game!

Warhawks, we're the Warhawks,
Shouting out our bat-tle cry
So beat the drums and let the trumpets blow
On to victory go, Go!
Warhawks, we're the Warhawks,
Proud to bear that name
So take the ball and let's go, Whitewater
Win this game!


#24

Dave

Dave

Wisconsin beat Northern Illinois. Big fracking deal.


#25

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Pitt found out the hard way, and WVU nearly did. Don't wear out your own defense with your "high octane" offense.

All indications are next weekend's WVU v LSU game in Morgantown will be the marquee game for ESPN and ABC. The GameDay crew is coming to town.


#26

Krisken

Krisken

Wisconsin beat Northern Illinois. Big fracking deal.
Yeah, not like they manhandled the first three teams they played this season. C'mon, give 'em a challenge!


#27

blotsfan

blotsfan

Way to go playing directional Illinois schools!
69-0 Mizzou over Western Illinois


#28

jwhouk

jwhouk

Meanwhile, my real alma mater's head coach* gets some love on the front page of the MJS. And they won again Saturday (of course).

And I'll get excited about the Big T(welv)en season when we get more into October.

* - University of Wisconsin - Whitewater Warhawks, 3-time NCAA Division III Champions


#29

Shannow

Shannow

Syracuse and Pitt heading to the ACC...woooo!!!! I cant wait for SU/Duke and SU/North Carolina basketball up here at the dome! UConn now trying to follow. The Big East will be pretty much dead in a couple years, should they go and take another Big East team with them, effectively turning the ACC to one of the premiere basketball conferences.


#30

Steve

Steve

OU still number 1. Their defense looked scarey good. Best I've seen in years. FSU's defense did a great job, too. I can't wait to see OU collide with Texas (who is over rated right now) and OSU (not the real OSU-Ohio State, the other OSU Oklahoma State Pokes).
Regarding the conference realignment I'm okay with OU/OSU/TT and Texas going to the Pac 12. Wouldn't want any part of the most dominate conference SEC. Texas A&M, enjoy your two conference win seasons when you get there. I hope whatever is ultimately decided with the conference reshuffling ends this season. It's distracting to the season and I don't want to see team shuffling every year. Hope they get their four mega conferences and leave it at that.


#31

jwhouk

jwhouk

So, let me see if I got this right:

Four teams in the (not-so) Big Twelve are heading towards the Pac-Twelve-Plus; the Big East is planning on absorbing the rest of the Big Twelve teams (at least, the ones that aren't headed for the SEC); Mountain West (aka "Boise State and the Seven Dwarves") and Conference USA (aka "The Ohio Valley Conference") are considering merging... who does that leave?


#32

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Baylor. No one wants Baylor. Not even Waco.


#33

Piotyr

Piotyr

Illinois is 4-0 for the first time since 1951.

Yeah, really.

No, it wasn't pretty today.

No, it still doesn't matter.


#34

jwhouk

jwhouk

Nope, it won't matter when U of I goes oh-fer in the Big 10 schedule.

Of course, I shouldn't say anything, because I remember that happening to UW.


#35

Piotyr

Piotyr

I really doubt U of I will go oh-fer in the Big Ten schedule. Their schedule, especially.


#36

jwhouk

jwhouk

I don't personally mind, until November 19th, of course.


#37

Krisken

Krisken

Well, it looks like the Badgers beat the Cornhuskers by 31 points. Does it count now? :p


#38

Piotyr

Piotyr

It counts, but unfortunately it looks like Wisky is still behind Oklahoma, Stanford and the SEC winner in the national championship pecking order.

Meanwhile, Illinois continues their run of being the least impressive undefeated team in the country.


#39

jwhouk

jwhouk

Dear Nebraska,

Welcome to the Big Ten. Here's your complimentary floormat.

Sincerely,
Bret Bielema

P.S. - You're not in the Big XII anymore.


#40

Krisken

Krisken



#41

jwhouk

jwhouk

This. :)

Sorry, but there's room for only one Big Red in this conference. ;)


#42

Piotyr

Piotyr

When I get frustrated at work, I do vanity projects. Today's vanity projects: calculating the BCS standings about a week before they come out for real. One of the computer ratings is still unavailable until Sunday, but other than that, these ratings are accurate as of today:
Code:
|---------Overall BCS-----|--Coach Poll-|----Harris---|------Computer Ratings------|
|-------------------------|-------------|-------------|----------------------------|
| # Team          Score   |Rank   Score |Rank   Score | JS  BI  MA  CO  AH   Score |
| 1 Alabama        0.9614 |   3  0.9485 |   2  0.9489 |  1   2   1   1   2  0.9867 |
| 2 LSU            0.9512 |   2  0.9553 |   1  0.9784 |  2   1   5   4   3  0.9200 |
| 3 Oklahoma       0.9498 |   1  0.9722 |   3  0.9440 |  3   3   3   2   1  0.9333 |
| 4 Oklahoma State 0.8240 |   7  0.7919 |   6  0.8000 |  5   5   2   3   4  0.8800 |
| 5 Boise State    0.8039 |   6  0.7932 |   5  0.8184 |  7   4   6   7   5  0.8000 |
| 6 Wisconsin      0.7542 |   4  0.8434 |   4  0.8459 |  6   7  14  14  15  0.5733 |
| 7 Clemson        0.7498 |   8  0.7092 |   8  0.7270 |  4   6   4   8   7  0.8133 |
| 8 Stanford       0.7181 |   5  0.8353 |   7  0.7990 | 15   9  23  12  12  0.5200 |
| 9 Michigan       0.6100 |  10  0.6041 |  10  0.5993 | 13  17  12   5   6  0.6267 |
|10 Georgia Tech   0.5832 |  12  0.5458 |  12  0.5638 | 10  23   9  10  10  0.6400 |
|11 Arkansas       0.5796 |  11  0.5905 |  11  0.5882 |  9  10  10  21  16  0.5600 |
|12 Illinois       0.5110 |  15  0.4298 |  14  0.4365 |  8  13  11   9   8  0.6667 |
|13 Oregon         0.4894 |   9  0.6746 |   9  0.6602 | 16   8  --  --  --  0.1333 |
|14 Kansas State   0.4447 |  18  0.3132 |  17  0.3541 | 11  12   8   6   9  0.6667 |
|15 South Carolina 0.4251 |  13  0.4597 |  15  0.4157 | --  20  13  15  13  0.4000 |
|16 Nebraska       0.3814 |  14  0.4549 |  13  0.4494 | 17  11  24  22  21  0.2400 |
|17 Virginia Tech  0.3122 |  17  0.3546 |  18  0.3287 | 21  18  18  23  20  0.2533 |
|18 Texas          0.3067 |  21  0.1647 |  20  0.1955 | 14  --   7  11  11  0.5600 |
|19 Arizona State  0.2600 |  20  0.2325 |  19  0.2543 | 18  15  19  19  19  0.2933 |
|20 West Virginia  0.2582 |  16  0.3580 |  16  0.3899 | 24  --  --  --  23  0.0267 |
|21 Baylor         0.1956 |  24  0.1254 |  21  0.1948 | --  24  15  17  17  0.2667 |
|22 Michigan State 0.1548 |  19  0.2922 |  22  0.1722 | --  25  --  --  --  0.0000 |
|23 Houston        0.1481 |  22  0.1356 |  24  0.0953 | --  --  22  13  14  0.2133 |
|24 Texas A&M      0.1115 |  23  0.1342 |  23  0.1203 | 25  21  20  --  --  0.0800 |
|25 Auburn         0.0964 |  29  0.0224 |  26  0.0668 | 12  16  21  --  --  0.2000 |
|-------------------------|-------------|-------------|----------------------------|


#43

jwhouk

jwhouk

AP isn't used in the Official BCS rankings, though. BCS uses the USA Today Coaches Poll.


#44

Piotyr

Piotyr

Fixed. No teams are different among the top 25, but the places are switched around a bit.


#45

jwhouk

jwhouk

Boy, the computer rankings hate the Badgers.


#46

Piotyr

Piotyr

Boy, the computer rankings hate the Badgers.
It's mostly because the computer rankings can't factor in margin of victory at all, and Wisconsin has only played one league game, so the SOS is terrible with their OOC opponents.


#47

jwhouk

jwhouk

Here's what I came up with (sans the Wolfe Ratings):

Code:
========================================================================================
RK  Team            CNDV  GP OW OL  OW%  USATC  CP%  Harris  HP%    CMP%*  BCS%
========================================================================================
1  Alabama          SECW  6  6  0  1.000  1399  .88825  2728  .95719  .98000  .94182
2  Oklahoma        BG12  5  5  0  1.000  1434  .91048  2714  .95228  .93000  .93092
3  Louisiana State  SECW  6  6  0  1.000  1409  .89460  2813  .98702  .90000  .92721
4  Oklahoma State  BG12  5  5  0  1.000  1168  .74159  2300  .80702  .87000  .80620
5  Boise State      MTWE  5  5  0  1.000  1170  .74286  2353  .82561  .79000  .78616
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
6  Clemson          ACCA  6  6  0  1.000  1046  .66413  2090  .73333  .79000  .72915
7  Wisconsin        BTLD  5  5  0  1.000  1244  .78984  2432  .85333  .54000  .72772
8  Stanford        P12N  5  5  0  1.000  1232  .78222  2297  .80596  .42000  .66940
9  Michigan        BTLG  6  6  0  1.000  891  .56571  1723  .60456  .56000  .57676
10  Arkansas        SECW  6  5  1  0.833  871  .55302  1691  .59333  .47000  .53878
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
11  Georgia Tech    ACCC  6  6  0  1.000  805  .51111  1621  .56877  .51000  .52996
12  Illinois        BTLD  6  6  0  1.000  634  .40254  1255  .44035  .63000  .49096
13  Oregon          P12N  5  4  1  0.800  955  .60635  1898  .66596  .10000  .45744
14  Kansas State    BG12  5  5  0  1.000  462  .29333  1018  .35719  .64000  .43018
15  South Carolina  SECE  6  5  1  0.833  678  .43048  1195  .41930  .30000  .38326
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
16  Nebraska        BTLG  6  5  1  0.833  671  .42603  1292  .45333  .20000  .35979
17  Virginia Tech    ACCC  6  5  1  0.833  523  .33206    945  .33158  .22000  .29455
18  Texas            BG12  5  4  1  0.800  243  .15429    562  .19719  .42000  .25716
19  Arizona State    P12S  6  5  1  0.833  343  .21778    731  .25649  .29000  .25476
20  West Virginia    BGEA  6  5  1  0.833  528  .33524  1121  .39333  .02000  .24952
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
21  Baylor          BG12  5  4  1  0.800  185  .11746    560  .19649  .20000  .17132
22  Michigan State  BTLG  5  4  1  0.800  431  .27365    495  .17368  .00000  .14911
23  Houston          CUSW  6  6  0  1.000  200  .12698    274  .09614  .16000  .12771
24  Texas A&M        BG12  5  3  2  0.600  198  .12571    346  .12140  .06000  .10237
25  Penn State      BTLD  6  5  1  0.833    77  .04889    88  .03088  .17000  .08326
========================================================================================
* - Includes only five of the six ratings; the Wolfe Rankings are automatically registered as the minimum ranking of 0.


#48

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

FUCK ALABAMA FOREVER, FUCK ALL OF 'EM FUCK ALL THAT CRIMSON TIDE BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLSHIT


#49

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Dang it OU. I thought this was your year for sure. Oh, well. At least Texas has sucked it up. BOOMER!

Can someone please knock LSU down a peg or two?


#50

Dave

Dave

I want LSU and OK State to lose 1 game. In that case, Houston would be the only undefeated team in the nation and the BCS has them currently at 11th.

I so very, very much want the BCS to fail and they've gotten lucky every year so far.


#51

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

I want LSU and OK State to lose 1 game. In that case, Houston would be the only undefeated team in the nation and the BCS has them currently at 11th.

I so very, very much want the BCS to fail and they've gotten lucky every year so far.
I suppose Ark could pull of a major upset, but I highly doubt it. OU has smashed Okstate's dreams before, but w/o Broyles, I don't think that'll happen either.

If basketball can have playoffs, why can't college fb? Just extend the season into early spring.


#52

jwhouk

jwhouk

Because the Student Athletes have to study for finals.

...I'm sorry, I still can't type that with a straight face. :rofl:

I've never understood it: I-AA (aka I-FCS), Division II and Division III have absolutely no problem having playoffs, but the 120 BCS teams do. Of course, it comes at a price - I believe all non-BCS college teams play only 10 or 11 games before the playoffs start.


#53

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

My I-AA school is headed to the playoffs as a ranked team, YAY me.

The reason for the BCS is simple, money and tradition. The 4 formally 5 major bowl games make a lot of money, and they all have been around since at least the mid 30's and the Rose Bowl was first played in 1918.


#54

Steve

Steve

I would like to see a top 4 playoff. Would extend the season by 1 game. That would be about as fair as you could get it without a major overhaul of the system. As far as this season I would be happy with any two of the top four matching up. I would like to see OSU's offense against a SEC defense. I think Alabama's defense is better than LSU's but it would be nice to see an OSU/LSU match up pitting Les Miles against the team he bailed on. But a LSU/Oregon rematch would be great. Oregon is playing a hell of a lot better than they were during their first game. I love college football. I can find a great match up every Saturday.


#55

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

I would like to see a top 4 playoff. Would extend the season by 1 game. That would be about as fair as you could get it without a major overhaul of the system. As far as this season I would be happy with any two of the top four matching up. I would like to see OSU's offense against a SEC defense. I think Alabama's defense is better than LSU's but it would be nice to see an OSU/LSU match up pitting Les Miles against the team he bailed on. But a LSU/Oregon rematch would be great. Oregon is playing a hell of a lot better than they were during their first game. I love college football. I can find a great match up every Saturday.
I wouldn't mind seeing Okstate/LSU, as long as Okstate stomps LSU. I really think Okstate will choke under the pressure. They've never been ranked this high, nor even gone (let alone win) to a NCG. LSU staff/players know the spotlight. It would be great for the Big 12 and for Okstate to win though. However, if Okstate dominates OU, then I think they have a decent chance against LSU.


#56

Dave

Dave

My I-AA school is headed to the playoffs as a ranked team, YAY me.

The reason for the BCS is simple, money and tradition. The 4 formally 5 major bowl games make a lot of money, and they all have been around since at least the mid 30's and the Rose Bowl was first played in 1918.
Orange Bowl: #1 vs. #4
Fiesta Bowl: #2 vs. #3

(optional) Sugar Bowl: Loser Orange Bowl vs. Loser Fiesta Bowl

Rose Bowl: Winner Orange Bowl vs. Winner Fiesta Bowl


Rotate the bowl game that has the championship game so that each bowl only has it once every 4 years. BAM! Playoffs and bowl games both. Get rid of all the smaller bowls as they are nothing more than money drains for all the schools involved.


#57

jwhouk

jwhouk

...but then there'll be controversy over a fifth team. Then a sixth, then a seventh, then...


#58

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

There is controversy in NCAA Basketball over the 64th (now 68th?) team in the playoff.


#59

Dave

Dave

Yup. The team right under the bubble will always bitch. But as it would encompass the very top ti wouldn't matter nearly as much.


#60

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

This wouldn't be an easy thing to implement logistically and all that, but my favored format that would keep the importance of the regular season and give a legitimate champion: +1 games until there are no undefeated teams left. Has there been an instance of 3 undefeated teams at the end of the season ever in the BCS era? It would probably only be a +1 in the case of 2 undefeateds at the end. Oh, and a rule that # of losses supercedes any ranking.


#61

Dave

Dave

I'd like the ranking system that ESPN came up with. I'd have to find it, though.

Each win gives a specific amount of points (from 1-4 I believe) based on specific criteria. Like road win +1, conference win +1, margin of victory (set amount) +1, etc. Each loss would be -1-4 based on similar criteria. Playing non-division 1 opponents gives NO win.

End of the season the top 2 teams play for the title.


#62

Piotyr

Piotyr

I like Sagarin's predictor ratings better. ESPN's system is overly simplistic and arbitrary.


#63

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Margin of victory should not be considered in rankings, it just leads to poor sportsmanship.


#64

jwhouk

jwhouk

Conference champions, ranked by BCS magic, play over four weeks with a one week pause for "finals" and the holidays.

Everyone else gets a consolation bowl.


#65

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Margin of victory should not be considered in rankings, it just leads to poor sportsmanship.
I think margin of victory is useful for common opponents only.


#66

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I think margin of victory is useful for common opponents only.
I disagree. Even then it leads to padding scores on inferior teams. Like teams that are up by 28 points with 2:00 left in the game. The classy move is to get a first down and kneel on the ball. But since your rival had beat them by 25 points, you launch into a hurry-up offense to get another point for the national rankings.


#67

Piotyr

Piotyr

Margin of victory should be considered up to the point of 99%+ win probability. Somebody like Jeff Sagarin uses a system of diminishing returns on victory margin such that past 28 points of margin the difference is negligible.


#68

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

As I tried to find something to do over a long weekend, I discovered that all the non-playoff teams in Division 1-AA and lower were already done with their seasons as of last week.

At least a third of the current bowls could/should be cut, but with a similar playoff system to the rest of the NCAA, football would essentially be over for most of the country well before Thanksgiving. And who wants that?


#69

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf



#70

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Boise will still piss and moan because they will never get ranked #1 or 2.


#71

jwhouk

jwhouk

Understand that the BCS was built to determine a One Versus Two matchup at season's end. That's all. It was never intended to be used for any other purpose.


#72

jwhouk

jwhouk

...and just like that, we have chaos forming in the BCS Standings.

Houston is going to scream the loudest about being in the title game.


#73

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

The BCS is looking at disconnecting themselves from the bowls after the end of this contract and focus strictly on a 1 v. 2 matchup.

So will that allow the Cotton Bowl to ever reclaim it's place as one of the top tier bowls? What conference would you attach to it now?


#74



BErt

Now we just need Arkansas to beat LSU and everyone will scream about everything.


#75

Dave

Dave

One down. My evil plans are coming to fruition!


#76

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

I'm hearing semi-credible reports that Urban Meyer is assembling a coaching staff to return as head coach of Ohio State University next season.



#78

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

My I-AA school is headed to the playoffs as a ranked team, YAY me.
Not only ranked, but ranked #1. So I have a chance to watch them in the playoffs for the first time. Also as long as they win they will have home games, until the championship. The championship will be held just outside Dallas.


#79

jwhouk

jwhouk

My boys won their first-round game, 59-0.


#80

Enresshou

Enresshou

After yesterday's game, all I have to say is:

GO BLUE!!!


#81

jwhouk

jwhouk

Second round, UWW wins again.


#82

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

A 3-loss Big East team will get a BCS berth. It is possible, but not plausible, for a 6-loss UCLA team to get the PAC-12 BCS slot over a 1-loss Stanford.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this, but that scenario is horseshit.


#83

jwhouk

jwhouk

What is certain is this: if LSU doesn't totally screw up against Georgia, they are going to playing Alabama in the BCS National Championship Game.

And, if LSU loses in overtime or on the last play of the game, it's STILL likely that they'll be playing 'Bama in New Orleans, because it's highly unlikely they will drop low enough in the polls to fall out of the game. Especially if Oklahoma State wins over OU in their Big 12 finale.

The only way the Tigers could end up not playing on January 9 is if they tank big-time against Georgia, and Oklahoma State runs roughshod over Oklahoma.


#84

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

I just don't like that a team that did not win their division is ranked #2, and will get a rematch in the championship.


#85

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Barring some funky number crunching (and a couple of unresolved lawsuits), WVU is headed to a BCS bowl. Orange or Sugar most likely.


#86

jwhouk

jwhouk

Well, we won't be hearing any shouting coming from Houston anymore.

Meanwhile, Baylor is giving Texas a beatdown.


#87

Dave

Dave

I know. I was hoping Houston would win and LSU would lose...


#88

jwhouk

jwhouk

Neither happened.
LSU-Bama for the crystal football.
Added at: 19:38
BTW, the announcers on Fox for the Big Ten Championship are deserving more of broadcasting the Indiana State High School Football Championships instead.


#89

Covar

Covar

Neither happened.
LSU-Bama for the crystal football.
Added at: 19:38
BTW, the announcers on Fox for the Big Ten Championship are deserving more of broadcasting the Indiana State High School Football Championships instead.
We live in a world where Eric Mangini is considered by ESPN to be knowledgeable about football, and you're shocked that National announcers don't know what they're talking about?


#90

General Specific

General Specific

I honestly can see the case for either OSU or Alabama going to the title game and will not be upset over either team going. But what this debate should once again reinforce is the problem of no playoff system in college football.

The following list illustrates why:

1969 Kansas City Chiefs
1980 Oakland Raiders
1997 Denver Broncos
2000 Baltimore Ravens
2005 Pittsburgh Steelers
2007 New York Giants
2010 Green Bay Packers

All of these teams did not win their division, but wound up winning the Superbowl. Everyone is fine with that because it happened in the playoffs.

That happening in the BCS is stupid because two teams are simply picked by computers to play. There is no compelling reason why there should not be a playoff system in place of the BCS. We all know it is simply due to greed on a few people's part that is holding it back.


#91

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Well, the BCS did it again. I agree LSU should be in the NCG, but it just doesn't make sense for Alabama to get another shot. If it was fair, Okstate and Alabama would get a playoff game to see who gets to go to the NC. Oh well. It was an interesting season for sure. Lots of great games and upsets.
Added at: 10:08
Dear Nebraska,
Welcome to the Big Ten. Here's your complimentary floormat.
Sincerely,
Bret Bielema
P.S. - You're not in the Big XII anymore.
They got pushed around in the Big XII too. It's not the 80s anymore!


#92

jwhouk

jwhouk

I said it earlier in this thread: the purpose of the BCS is to determine who the number one and number two teams in the country are. NOT to determine who should or should not be in a four-team playoff for the title.

We went years without something like this. What we got is what was wanted. If you want a playoff, you may have to wait years to get it.


#93

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Todd Graham had done his mentor, Rich Rod, proud. He has bolted Pitt for Arizona State.

Now while I am no fan of Pitt by any means, something smells. In his presser, Graham said he HAD to leave Pitt. Ok, WHY? What is going on that we don't know about yet? What other shoe is about to drop? Why did you have to leave so fast it took a text message from an assistant for the players to find out you were gone?


#94

jwhouk

jwhouk

No one wants to coach a college football program in PA nowadays, it appears.

Oh, and *yawn* Whitewater and Mount Union for the Stagg Bowl title on Saturday. Film at 11.

You know what? Our athletic director should wise up and just schedule them for a regular-season game at Perkins Stadium. That way one of us will go into the championship that year with a one-loss season.


#95

blotsfan

blotsfan

So this is the 7th time in a row? Man, those other DIII coaches should get off their asses and do something.


#96

jwhouk

jwhouk

Yeah, I know. I think what has happened is that MTU and UWW get the "leftovers" from our Division I-BCS brethren in our respective states. As a result, we have guys like Justin Beaver and Levell Coppage - who realistically could play at a D-I school, though not the Big Ten - while guys like Jeremy Murray could be playing for teams like Pitt and WVU and others in the Big East.

It's unlikely that either team are going to be moving up to another division anytime soon, barring NCAA legislation. Whitewater still isn't that big of a school; nor is Mount Union.


#97

jwhouk

jwhouk

WARHAWKS! WE'RE THE WARHAWKS!
Shouting out our battle cry
So beat the drums and let the trumpets blow
On to victory, Go! Go!
WARHAWKS! We're the WARHAWKS!
Proud to bear that name
So take the ball and let's GO WHITEWATER
WIN THIS GAME!


#98

jwhouk

jwhouk

Threepeat, baby! We won the rubber match! ;)


#99

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Eat them up Kats... I am headed to Frisco to watch my team in the FCS final!!!!


#100

jwhouk

jwhouk

Good job. Didn't know you were a Sam Houston State alum.


#101

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Yep, personal info I try not to give out here. But, it is hard not to gloat.


#102

jwhouk

jwhouk

I know the feeling (see five posts previous).


#103



BErt

The Sugar Bowl...is happening. Tomorrow. With pictures.


#104

jwhouk

jwhouk

So... the AP has already thrown out the split-National Championship threat. The theory is, if Bama wins in OT by a field goal or less, there may be enough voters in the AP who'd still vote LSU #1.


#105

blotsfan

blotsfan

Honestly, I think thats a dumb idea. While the methods of determining the two best teams in the country are crappy, voting LSU number one would be like saying "well the Giants may have won the super bowl, but New England beat them in the regular season so they're better."


#106

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

It's a great night to be a Mountaineer wherever you may be.

Most of the country had Clemson. No one thought WVU would hang 70 on them.


#107

jwhouk

jwhouk

This just in: the Mountaineers just scored another touchdown against Clemson...


...and the game's been over for eight hours already!


#108

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

If the BCS gets split, it should go to OSU instead of LSU.


#109

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Well I had a great time at the FCS title game. My alma mater lost :(

But it was a good atmosphere. The fans from both sides were really cool to one another.


#110

General Specific

General Specific

It's a great night to be a Mountaineer wherever you may be.

Most of the country had Clemson. No one thought WVU would hang 70 on them.
This just in: the Mountaineers just scored another touchdown against Clemson...


...and the game's been over for eight hours already!
That was a hilarious game if you are like myself and live in SC and graduated from the U of So. Carolina (Clemson's hated rival). I heard from my Clemson fan co-workers all about how they were going to win that game and who had WVU really played, etc. Then after the game it was, well our defense was bad all year, we just weren't ready for the big stage yet, wait til next year! :rofl:


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