I shouldn't have laughed, but I did.
If you were on the jury, how would you find in the trial of Casey Anthony?
- Thread starter strawman
- Start date
- Status
I was just explaining partially why I was so flippant towards it. I feel guilty about the abortion joke since it's in pretty poor taste (albeit kinda funny). I don't honestly support killing children.
Added at: 15:49
If one person reads my post and thinks "you know what, the war on drugs is pretty fucked up! Maybe I should look into it a little!" then it will help. But whatever, I'm dropping it here.
I understand that. But everything we talk about here is not as important as the war on drugs. You might as well pop into every thread and note that it's stupid to chat about lame things because, hey, there are people dying and the world is ignoring it.
My point is that as human beings we are capable of thinking about more than one thing. Just because the war on drugs may be a bigger issue doesn't mean we should ignore everything else until it's solved. It would be like saying that you should only brush your teeth - because even though flossing helps and it would be good to do both things, brushing is better, and so we should forget about flossing until we no longer have need to brush.
Why can't we discuss the murder of a child in Florida in one thread, and the mass murders of innocent people caught up in the drug trade wars in Mexico in another thread? Why is it important to demean people who are caught up in a story that has been media whipped for years?
J
Jiarn
Dave said we can't argue his opinion steinman so we should drop it.
No, don't warbblllglgllglglge when he posts.
C
Chibibar
I think that is part of the strategy really. Can a juror feel comfortable enough to issue a death sentence (in this case Casey would have died if she was guilty) So that is also a factor.
GasBandit
Staff member
That's ok. I'm sure someone could fill in for you.
Whew! That's a relief. Here I was sitting by the phone, anxiously awaiting the call to come and make the decision the jury couldn't.
The fact is, she's still going for the false statements to police and perjury, which are felonious in their own right.
And people associated with hurting children tend to not do so well in prison...
And people associated with hurting children tend to not do so well in prison...
She can only get up to four years (one year for each of four counts) and unless she's given all four years, she may be sentenced to time served, though it would surprised me if she was sentenced to less than the full amount. I don't know how much of the last 3 years she actually spent in prison, and how much of the ankle monitoring would count towards the sentence. We'll find out tomorrow, I suppose.
These sort of statements really make me sick to my stomach.
Well, prison probably isn't fun for anyone really. I suppose the best way to avoid having to deal with these sorts of things is to avoid committing felonies.
M
makare
Hmm I don't know her defense might get pretty low sentences on perjury because as is she isn't a murderer by law. She is just the mother of a daughter who was murdered. She is a sympathetic perpetrator. I don't know if she has a record but if I were her defense I would be talking about her lack of record and how distraught anyone would be in a situation like that.
Jiarn below says she has a record so I would leave that out then lol
Jiarn below says she has a record so I would leave that out then lol
J
Jiarn
She's been to prison 4 times, twice she was bailed out at $500,000 each. So I doubt she'll stay there long.
Good.
M
makare
Jiarn, pop a midol.
Let's assume that she ACTUALLY is only guilty of that felony fucking-with-the-police charge. IN FACT, there are people in the world that are only guilty of things sentenced to 2-10 years or whatever.
In what world is the systematic rape, abuse, and dehumanization associated with our prison system an acceptable punishment for that crime? I agree that she should go to prison for that, as should everyone convicted! But they don't deserve the house of horrors that is the American prison system.
I don't even think murderers deserve that, but whatever I'm just a hippy like that.
In what world is the systematic rape, abuse, and dehumanization associated with our prison system an acceptable punishment for that crime? I agree that she should go to prison for that, as should everyone convicted! But they don't deserve the house of horrors that is the American prison system.
I don't even think murderers deserve that, but whatever I'm just a hippy like that.
M
makare
Goddamn yes you are a hippy. Criminy.
J
Jiarn
And you are?
M
makare
Sick of your whining.
Read http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/3040/rape-in-us-prisons and then give me research that shows that US prisons are as horrible as "they" say they are. The link above suggests rape happens, but not to the degree many seem to suggest, but doesn't speak towards any other forms of torture that are going on.
And I'm asking you this honestly - I really don't know. Movies and popular media portray prison as disease infested caste castles of systematic torture, but I know a few people who have been to prison, and they just laugh when they see such portrayals or hear others discuss them. Interestingly they won't tell me that it's better or worse - just different, with no further explanation. I'm sure it depends greatly on a variety of factors.
I dunno, so enlighten me.
J
Jiarn
After seeing you cry thread after thread with Mathias you'd figure you'd learn not to throw rocks in your glass house.
I had no idea about any of this until steinman made this thread. So I say: what.
Why are people pissed about this in particular? Because it seems like fucking up by the court system, and it's been publicized so people will know about it. Courts fuck up daily, but for those with TVs, it's been in their homes, and people care about that.
I've only known one other person in my years on the internet who was so incredibly dense as to what affects people psychologically or emotionally, or had such a hard time wrapping his head around how the world runs (whether that be good, bad, or a mixture of the two).
Go watch another movie; you understand them better and I'm sure they understand you.
Babies are killed everyday. So are Mexicans. And lots of other people of varying ages, nationalities, etc.
Why are people pissed about this in particular? Because it seems like fucking up by the court system, and it's been publicized so people will know about it. Courts fuck up daily, but for those with TVs, it's been in their homes, and people care about that.
I've only known one other person in my years on the internet who was so incredibly dense as to what affects people psychologically or emotionally, or had such a hard time wrapping his head around how the world runs (whether that be good, bad, or a mixture of the two).
Go watch another movie; you understand them better and I'm sure they understand you.
I didn't follow the case, and honestly I'm not too interested in it. But it seems like it was a case with mostly circumstantial evidence (which doesn't make it bad evidence, it's just not conclusive in and of itself) and way too much media focus on it. If the prosecution didn't convince the jury, it doesn't mean she's innocent - it means they didn't present a strong enough case to convict. And in all honestly, I don't mind that it can be difficult to convict people. There's a reason we have juries instead of leaving it up to lynch mobs. I don't believe that the woman is innocent of wrongdoing, but I can accept that she wasn't convicted of murder.
"Casey Anthony will be back in court Thursday for sentencing on four misdemeanor counts of lying to police. Each count carries a maximum sentence of one year in county jail. The judge has the option of sentencing Anthony consecutively or concurrently. Anthony will receive credit for time served in jail since her 2008 arrest, meaning she could walk free."
SOURCE: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...8.html#s303664&title=Orange_County_Courthouse
not trying to stir the pot, but apparently not, Thursday will show if real shit will be lost by the collective masses.
.... see, false statements to police is a felony here. FloridaLawFail.
M
makare
I think it is a misdemeanor here too.
M
makare
But I'm in law school.
- Status