Is income inequality unjust, and if so, where is the injustice?



I thought about linking one of the "Let's tour the whole thing" videos, but the shortest one I could find was about half an hour, with most of them being an hour to an hour and a half.

--Patrick
 
Elon Musk is planning on moving Tesla from Delaware to Texas, because a Tesla shareholder successfully went to court to block Musk from receiving what the shareholder considered an overpayment in Musk's paypacket. So, how much would be have been paid? $55.8 billion. :eek::Leyla:
 
Musk does realize that changing where the company is incorporated won't change who owns the shares...right?
Personally I expected him to go with the Seychelles, or something like that.

--Patrick
 
Delaware, famously the least tax haven business paradise state in the US.
Yep, corpo-hating Delaware, which has more corporations registered there than there are people living in Delaware

Edit for stats: just over 1 million people live in Delaware, whereas there are 1.8 million businesses registered there
 
I'm sure at some point corporations will be given the right to vote (they're legal people after all), and suddenly Delaware is...well, not like it's competitive now I guess :-D
 
Hey! All those corpo-people mean we don't have any sales tax on most items. :) They also issued a $300/person refund last year due to budget surplus.
Oregon also has no sales tax and we get a kicker from taxes every year as well. We aren't quite known as the tax haven that Delaware is.

As an aside, I honestly wish they would spend the money instead of redistributing it with a kicker.
 
Oregon also has no sales tax and we get a kicker from taxes every year as well. We aren't quite known as the tax haven that Delaware is.

As an aside, I honestly wish they would spend the money instead of redistributing it with a kicker.
as unpopular as it is, roads, bridges, social programs, generally will always pay back investments. but no one wants to hear about how repairs to a bridge increases tax revenues, or how making sure kids get fed leads to all kinds of benefits. I also fully understand I probably shouldn't be saying anything at all, but MD comment about spending it struck a cord with me.
 
no one wants to hear about how [...] making sure kids get fed leads to all kinds of benefits.
This is the part that absolutely annihilates my understanding of how some people must think, because when you are talking about programs funded by taxes, taxes that are paid by people, you would think that the people administering these programs would want to keep their pool of tax-paying people as large, healthy, and stable as possible for as long as possible in order to maintain a dependable base from which to draw those taxes, BUT NOPE who cares about the "next" generation of taxpayers all that matters is RIGHT NOW.

--Patrick
 
This is the part that absolutely annihilates my understanding of how some people must think, because when you are talking about programs funded by taxes, taxes that are paid by people, you would think that the people administering these programs would want to keep their pool of tax-paying people as large, healthy, and stable as possible for as long as possible in order to maintain a dependable base from which to draw those taxes, BUT NOPE who cares about the "next" generation of taxpayers all that matters is RIGHT NOW.

--Patrick
Why would politicians of a certain stripe be interested in the type of voters who need assistance to feed their children? If your target audience is the rich and powerful, the less poor and weak there are, the better.
 
Politicians only want their constituents to get public works and infrastructure improvements. That’s the real problem. If you asked Alabama if the federal government should spend money to improve Alabama roads, hospitals, schools, etc. they would all be in favor. They just hate it when other states gets support too. It’s a very selfish mentality (usually on the part of conservatives, though not always).
 
This is the part that absolutely annihilates my understanding of how some people must think, because when you are talking about programs funded by taxes, taxes that are paid by people, you would think that the people administering these programs would want to keep their pool of tax-paying people as large, healthy, and stable as possible for as long as possible in order to maintain a dependable base from which to draw those taxes, BUT NOPE who cares about the "next" generation of taxpayers all that matters is RIGHT NOW.
Well, that's Reganomics for ya, still dismantling America decades later. If a single penny goes to the fabled "welfare queen", then we can't risk that, can we?!?
 
With this attitude, it's easy to see why they have such a hard time grasping the concept of "Sustainability," and why it's so important. These people don't want golden eggs, they want foie gras, and they want it now, consequences be damned.

--Patrick
 
I'd like to believe that guy is in for a serious reality check. Like he does something to piss off his father and gets cut off. The sooner the better.
I mean, if I could I 100% would live like him, so I can't really fault him. At least he's honest about it.
 
I'd like to believe that guy is in for a serious reality check. Like he does something to piss off his father and gets cut off. The sooner the better.
The only reality check he'll get is a six figure one when he gets bored and his dad gets him a cushy job, where the best outcomes is that he's just useless at it, and annoys whoever has to pick up the slack, while the worst is, well, just the current state of capitalism, where he makes a lot of other people poor/unemployed to make him and his rich friends even richer.
 
The only reality check he'll get is a six figure one when he gets bored and his dad gets him a cushy job, where the best outcomes is that he's just useless at it, and annoys whoever has to pick up the slack, while the worst is, well, just the current state of capitalism, where he makes a lot of other people poor/unemployed to make him and his rich friends even richer.
Which is why I hope he keeps on running around raw dogging club girls. Not everybody needs a job. If daddy has enough money he should just be out there having fun. People who are fantastically rich who work hard are fucking disgusting to me.
 
I wouldn't say I would work hard, but I'd still be working.
...What? I actually enjoy what I do for a living.

--Patrick
 
I wouldn't say I would work hard, but I'd still be working.
...What? I actually enjoy what I do for a living.

--Patrick
I love my job too. Second I have a billion dollars I’m gone and my days are spent doing literally anything else other than selling my time for money. Would still go hard on my hobbies and shit but wouldn’t spend another second thinking about money.
 
Aren't Kellogs the ones that started as sexual abstinence food ?
Kinda. John Kellogg started making cereal for health and abstinence and then him and his brother had a falling out and his brother made his own company, which is the one that exists today. The latter company was founded to just be a normal food company.
 
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