figmentPez
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Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
[Movies] The Upcoming Movies Trailer Thread
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Did I hear PATRICK STEWART in that trailer? Are they finally doing House of M and introducing mutants to the MCU?
He did say he was not returning as Xavier. Either he was lying or he's coming to the MCU as someone new.
Ehhhh I don't trust anything these people say anymore. They need to hide these things or at least obfuscate them. Or have we forgotten months of
Garfield and McGuire lying about even being in Spider-Man?
I assume Wanda is going to reverse House of M and bring in mutants here by trying to bring back her family. And that the scene with Stuart is the Illuminati, from a universe where Stark DID put armor around the world as he intended. Curious if this is also how they intro Reed.
figmentPez
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Doctor Strangefate from Amalgam comics?
Onslaught?
Captain Picard?
Onslaught?
Captain Picard?
I'd say WandaVision, at the very least, would be good to watch. Wanda looks to play a major role.
It's worth watching, honestly. The set up and mystery is great, though it kind of peters out in the end. You cried always "legally obtain" from somewhere before Dr Strange 2 comes out.
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GasBandit
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Lemme know if you need help finding a place to watch such things.
I got my usual place, thanks. I just haven't bothered before now. Looks like I'm gonna need to bother.
Honestly the D+ shows are mostly on a level with the mainline movies, albeit maybe heavier on the character interactions than the spectacle. I found them a lot more interesting than Shang-Chi or The Eternals even without considering that they're setting up the new status quo for the movies going forward.
The Eternals would have worked as 6-7 episode series. As a two+ hour movie, it's both too fucking long to keep your interest and full of uninteresting stuff, despite having a decent moral conundrum at the heart of it all.
I got nothing out of the first few episodes of What If and bounced right off, honestly. Thought WandaVision, Loki, and Hawkeye were all well worth the time, though.
What If was hit and miss but I thought it stuck the landing. The finale was awesome.
Loki got better along the way, but far too much of its time was spent explaining the mechanics of everything.
Falcon & Winter Soldier was good in parts, but the villain motivation was lacking (it was also hurt from Covid lockdowns and reworking parts of the script. Apparently, part of the terrorist's original plans involved unleashing a deadly virus).
Loki got better along the way, but far too much of its time was spent explaining the mechanics of everything.
Falcon & Winter Soldier was good in parts, but the villain motivation was lacking (it was also hurt from Covid lockdowns and reworking parts of the script. Apparently, part of the terrorist's original plans involved unleashing a deadly virus).
GasBandit
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Hawkeye was good too, yeah. And I understand how you felt about the first few What If - the Star Lord T'Challa episode made me roll my eyes a few times at the fangirling.
Also I simply cannot take Erin Kellyman seriously in any role I ever see her in (granted I've only seen her in F&tWC and Solo). They keep trying to make her some inspiring modern day Joan of Arc but I just can't buy it. The meawy moufd cockney accent didn't help either (every successive utterance of "Wun wouwd, wun paypouw" was more nails-on-a-blackboard than its predecessor).
WandaVision and Loki would probably be the two shows you'd want to watch for Multiverse of Madness coming up. You probably won't need them, but certainly wouldn't hurt to have information. If you just want a simple fix both shows can easily be summed up for you.
Wanda takes over a small town and transforms it and all the people in it into a sitcom-like world that follows her plotlines and obeys her mental commands. She also has created a version of Vision that does not remember anything about his past other than he loves Wanda. Wanda and Vision have two twin boys that grow up to be teens in a matter of days. S.W.O.R.D sets up operation outside the town but they are also up to no good as the commanding officer just wants a sample of the energy that Wanda is using so he can restart the real Vision's body and use it as a weapon (White Vision). Agatha Harkness also shows up, being drawn to the town because she gains powers by draining it from other witches and she wants Wanda's power. Psuedo Vision defeats White Vision with logic. Wanda defeats Agatha and becomes The Scarlet Witch. And Monica Rambo (the little girl from Captain Marvel all grown up) gains super powers due to her exposure to Wanda's powers. Wanda releases the town but in doing so Psuedo Vision and the children fade away. Wanda retreats to the mountains with the Dark Hold (that she got from Agatha) and is likely researching ways she can bring back her family for good.
Loki from Avengers Endgame becomes a Time Variant and is brought in by the Time Variance Authority, who then use him to help them track down an even deadlier variant of himself. The TVA keeps time moving precisely as "The Time Keepers" have ordained and arrest and purge any variances. The other Loki variant turns out to be a female Loki who only wants to destroy the TVA because they were going to erase her from time just because she was a girl Loki. The Lokis team up and eventually find themselves in a world at the end of time where all things that are purged by the TVA go and are devoured by a giant entity. They meet up with some other Loki variants (worth watching just for Croc Loki) and manage to get past the beast that is guarding the castle of He Who Remains. A being from our future who discovered and unlocked the multiverse via science but ended up starting a war between the multiverses. Using the beast he was able to eliminate the multiverse (or cut our ties with it. Not entirely sure) and keep it from reappearing by establishing the TVA and making sure no variants branch off and start forming the multiverse again. He offers the Lokis a chance to run the TVA in his stead but female Loki decides to kill him instead. However, as he warned them, this will open up the multiverse again and allow for far worse variants of himself to once again aim to take over. Our Loki is sent back to the TVA by female Loki where he discovers that no one remembers him and the TVA now appears to be run by Kang the Conqueror (A variant of He Who Remains).
Honestly? Not unless you want to. A common complaint people have of comics is you have to read other books to know what's going on in a different book, and I honestly think that's usually not true. You just accept that here's a character you haven't seen before, or is different from the last time you saw them, and just kinda accept some shit happened off issue/off camera. You can go back for context if you want but it usually doesn't impact the story
This is true as far as it goes, but the question was whether you need the context to get the full experience of the new Doctor Strange movie. I can't imagine going into it without having seen what Wanda went through in her show and not feeling left out when Strange is suddenly going to her for help/advice with magic.
If that is "the full experience" for you, good for you, but I know that my wife would not be able to watch the movie without the backstory of the series. And, frankly, I'm going to have to find recap videos of the shows to remind her of stuff she's forgotten by now, too. She needs things explained or at least mentioned. And she's most definitely not alone.
(Yes, that means that our current watch through of The Witcher has stops every 5 minutes)
(Yes, that means that our current watch through of The Witcher has stops every 5 minutes)
I've watched all of them. But the question was "do I have to" which leads me to believe they don't really want to, and I don't think it's needed to get if not the absolute complete experience, isn't needed to get the majority of the experience. If you feel like you have to do homework to get the 'full experience' it makes me think it's not an experience you want, but that threshold is up to everyone's own definition.
True. There's a difference to me though. Having read the Witcher books or played the games? Not necessary to watch the series. Having watched Infinity War to make sense of Endgame? Pretty much necessary. The shows to the movies....Well, I mean, Multiverse of Madness isn't out yet, so who knows, but I do think you're going to be expected to go in with some background, and/or willing to accept some strange character arc leaps.
If "Wanda got stronger" is all the information you need to get the full experience, why bother watching any of the movies at all when there are handy plot summaries all over the internet? Why not just wait for the final movie of each phase, watch it, and fill in the gaps with pithy one-line summaries?
Again, you're not wrong to say that it's enough to understand the plot of the movie, and depending on how much you enjoy what WandaVision is doing you might be happier to have saved those 8 hours or whatever it is than to have filled in those gaps in knowledge. I don't think there's a reasonable argument to suggest that you're going to get the full experience of the movie (or probably a bunch more movies going forward if this is handled anything like the earlier phases) if you go in with no understanding of how Wanda went from raw power to knowledge and control, or the events that led to what I'm assuming will be pretty different motivation for her going forward, though.
Because you want that story and are interested in it.
Again, this was in response to someone not interested in those stories.
I don't...I don't even know how to react to this. Some of this looks intriguing, like having Chip staying in traditional 2D animation while Dale got the 3D makeover. That's pretty clever.
But the voices are just...wrong. So wrong.
But the voices are just...wrong. So wrong.
anyone else find it strange that this kids show trailer heavily features a song that says "bitch" and the N word?
While I'm sure lots of kids will see this movie, I really don't think kids are who this trailer is marketing to, they don't know who chip and dale are
That actually don't look so bad. I like that CG makeover is treated like a lifting for cartoons.
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Adults that were kids in the 80s
Yes and no. Mickey Mouse's Clubhouse was VERY popular with the preschool set, and that show ran from 2006-2016, while continuing in reruns for a few years after. Chip n' Dale were semi-regulars on it. So, they may not know who the Rescue Rangers are, but Chip and Dale, for sure.