Speaking of GotG, it should have probably gone for that kind of mood. Instead ... well, it was that. Hopefully the real trailer shows a different kind of movie.
[Movies] MCU: Phase 3 And Beyond
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Corey Stoll tho
The trailer felt a little too generic-hero story. I can see why they didn't go quite as silly as they did with Guardians of the Galaxy, because "Ant-Man" is a pretty silly name to being with. Add me too the group hoping the second trailer will be more interest-grabbing. I'd really like to see that they haven't wasted Paul Rudd ability to be funny, similar Robert Downey Jr., which I think would have been highlighted if Edgar Wright was still in charge.
Also remember that this film is coming out the same year after Avengers: Age of Ultron. It's unfortunately got a tough act to follow after the last few Marvel movies which have been incredible.
It was embracing the silly that worked for GOTG though. They had a talking racoon as a member, and made it work by not taking itself too seriously. It's one of the reasons I think they got a comedian to play the lead, because Gunn wanted someone inherently funny and likeable rather then just the same old stoic hero.
Ant-Man should be the same. They even got another actor known more for his comedy, and yet the trailer represented the generic super hero bits with an oddly serious tone. The jab at the end was the only part that represented what I think they should do with it. My hope is since this is a TEASER, and not a TRAILER, that they still have yet to really work out a more true to the movie montage.
P.S. A good example, going back to GOTG, was how they handled the absurdity of the "Star-Lord" nickname. They took something that you roll your eyes at, made even the characters in the movie roll their eyes at it, and then made it all come together in such a sincere way by the end that you just accept it. I hope they do something similar with Ant-Man.
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Seeing as Paul Rudd is being given writer's credit on this, I would say they've put his comedy to use, or atleast given him every conceivable opportunity to do so.
The teaser doesn't give us nearly enough to get excited about, but it doesn't destroy my hopes either. Its just a very safe generic looking trailer. With Guardians they leaned in to the goofiness, with Ant Man ot looks like they are (I think, wisely), downplaying that for now. I expect the first full length trailer to deliver us more laughs and more to get excited about.
Jeremy Renner recently tweeted he was back in the Hawkeye costume but couldn't say why. If it were just for an AoU reshoot we'd know. My bet is an after credits scene teasing Ant Man. Maybe we'll get to see Ant Man ride one of Hacker's arrows.
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Oh cmon, they obviously went with all the serious stuff and a small taste of humour at the end on purpose.
Im guessing that after GotG they don't want to make films that are/seem too light hearted to avoid ending up with something people don't take seriously.
Or maybe they just don't want people to expect Ant-Man to be funny in the comics...
Im guessing that after GotG they don't want to make films that are/seem too light hearted to avoid ending up with something people don't take seriously.
Or maybe they just don't want people to expect Ant-Man to be funny in the comics...
I agree. I don't think they'd be wise to lean into the absurdity like with Guardians. That is the tone for that series. They can't all do that. Plus, that's the cosmic universe and this is not. This needs to have a tone that gels more the other Avengers movies.
Still, I think the complaint isn't so much that it doesnt look as goofy as GotG but that it looks "darker" and "grittier" than the other Marvel movies so far. But:
-the teasers up until now have usually reserved the funny stuff. These aren't comedies, they're very light hearted action flicks and you will run out of gags if you put them all in the teaser. (How many gags were in the AoU teaser and who here is expecting that movie to be devoid of humour)
-This short teaser gives general audiences everything they need to know in a condensed origin story. Kinda lame, but true. It will give general audiences a better idea of what the character is about than if it were all goofs.
All that being said, it just looks very straight forward and hasn't done muh to pique my interest. But i think this isn't designed to get ME on board.
Do you know what this trailer reminds me of? Green Lantern. Minus the terrible special effects and anything particularly "ugh" worthy like "I KNOW, RIGHT?" Just more in its overall blandness.
It isn't a noteworthy trailer, but it's flat out wrong to compare it to the first Green Lantern trailer. The first GL trailer was outright awful.
*Scott Lang standing in front of his friend*
Scott: Dude watch this!
*Scott Lang shrinks*
Friend: WOAH!
Scott in high pitched voice: I know right!
It wasn't bad. It just wasn't necessarily good either. Three points came to mind though:
1) I, and at least a few other people, thought the first GotG trailer was underwhelming. It turned out to be a fantastic film, so I don't know how much we need to worry about the trailer.
2) I think that Marvel has earned some credit and faith over the years, so I'm willing to still give it a chance.
3) As someone already mentioned, they need to keep the funny and light-hearted stuff for later.
1) I, and at least a few other people, thought the first GotG trailer was underwhelming. It turned out to be a fantastic film, so I don't know how much we need to worry about the trailer.
2) I think that Marvel has earned some credit and faith over the years, so I'm willing to still give it a chance.
3) As someone already mentioned, they need to keep the funny and light-hearted stuff for later.
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We've got some Civil War casting news: Daniel Bruhl as Baron Zemo. The news was revealed in a Captain America: Civil War casting call sheet.
I wonder if it'll still be Andrew Garfield.
I highly doubt that. If Marvel were ballsy enough, they'd introduce us to a "new" Spidey: Miles Morales. Won't happen, but it'd be amazing.
Either way, welcome home, Spidey. Welcome home.
Is it bad that I'd be disappointed if they replaced Garfield? He's a pretty decent Spider-man. I mean, it's not a perfect casting, like RDJ for Tony Stark, but Garfield's still pretty good.
I can't wait for the third Spider-Man origin movie in my life
From the article, it sounds like Spider-man will next show up in someone else's movie, and then another Spider-man film will be released, so I think they're skipping the origin movie.
Negotiations were like:
I kind of look forward to why you hate the new one under Feige's supervision.
Sony will do another all new origin story in 2017 too.
Not surprised given that Marvel Studios films keep making money hand over fist. The last Spidey solo effort.... not so much.
Good news though![DOUBLEPOST=1423585090,1423584507][/DOUBLEPOST]Oh and apparently Buzzfeed is reporting that Garfield is out (according to i09).
http://io9.com/its-official-spider-man-will-appear-in-the-marvel-movi-1684857245
Good news as far as I am concerned. His Spidey was fine but his Peter was mopey and emo unless Stone was on screen with him.
If Sony was smart they would utilize this deal to basically step back and let Marvel print them money (as they would get a cut of any Marvel movie invoking Spider-Man). If they get too many of their fingers into the process they are just going to hurt themselves, which worries me since the article says they still have "final creative control".
"What do you mean there's only one villain in the movie!? NO! There needs to be at LEAST three! Because it worked so well for Spider-Man 3 and Amazing Spider-Man 2, dammit!"
Apparently, while Sony has obviously cancelled any plans for Amazing Spider-Man sequels thanks to the deal with Marvel, they're apparently STILL planning on trying to make Sinister Six, Venom, and "female protagonist from Spider-Man comics" films.
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/408535-get-ready-for-a-much-younger-spider-man
Seriously, Sony, just wipe the Spider-Man slate you had before clean and focus on this new lease on marketing life Marvel has given you.
http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/408535-get-ready-for-a-much-younger-spider-man
Seriously, Sony, just wipe the Spider-Man slate you had before clean and focus on this new lease on marketing life Marvel has given you.
What's even the point if they're not going to tie in with Spider-Man? I thought that was the point? That they would eventually tie in with the ASM series of films?