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North_Ranger

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Grilled cheese sandwiches, woodgrains on a door, and now bird shit?

God definitely should hire His old PR rep, the one who handled the burning bush and stuff...
 
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Alex B.

Good gods. The older I get the more I want to move the hell out of Texas before I have kids that I need to put in school.
 

GasBandit

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Alex B. said:
Good gods. The older I get the more I want to move the hell out of Texas before I have kids that I need to put in school.
No matter where you go in the country, you better be putting them in private school if you want them to be able to think.
 
GasBandit said:
Alex B. said:
Good gods. The older I get the more I want to move the * out of Texas before I have kids that I need to put in school.
No matter where you go in the country, you better be putting them in private school if you want them to be able to think.
:eyeroll:

If they aren't thinking then it's the failure of the parents, not school. Any parent who expects the school to teach their child to think and therefore slacks off in their parenting role is going to be horribly burned when their kid selects their nursing home.

A good school makes the job of parenting easier - it doesn't replace it.

-Adam
 
Silver Jelly said:
Denbrought said:
They are adoring a false idol, purge the heretics in the Emperor's name!
You know that, under your warhammer rethoric, you HAVE a point?
It's hard not to since Commissariat-like speeches and slogans, both in reality and fiction, are expected to be relevant and true in any given situation :p
 

Cajungal

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GasBandit said:
Alex B. said:
Good gods. The older I get the more I want to move the hell out of Texas before I have kids that I need to put in school.
No matter where you go in the country, you better be putting them in private school if you want them to be able to think.
:rofl:
 
Oh, that we already knew. Transformers 2 was just the first event in the chain reaction that was to follow, for the betterment of humankind.

Strippers, sabres and nukes were involved.
 
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Laurelai

GasBandit said:
Alex B. said:
Good gods. The older I get the more I want to move the * out of Texas before I have kids that I need to put in school.
No matter where you go in the country, you better be putting them in private school if you want them to be able to think.
Yeah! Like a good Catholic school!
 

Cajungal

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Laurelai said:
GasBandit said:
Alex B. said:
Good gods. The older I get the more I want to move the * out of Texas before I have kids that I need to put in school.
No matter where you go in the country, you better be putting them in private school if you want them to be able to think.
Yeah! Like a good Catholic school!
Yyyyep, no stifling of thought in those places!
 
Cajungal said:
Laurelai said:
GasBandit said:
Alex B. said:
Good gods. The older I get the more I want to move the * out of Texas before I have kids that I need to put in school.
No matter where you go in the country, you better be putting them in private school if you want them to be able to think.
Yeah! Like a good Catholic school!
Yyyyep, no stifling of thought in those places!
Hey, some people think that borg is a good lifestyle for their child.
 
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Mr_Chaz

Cajungal said:
Laurelai said:
GasBandit said:
Alex B. said:
Good gods. The older I get the more I want to move the * out of Texas before I have kids that I need to put in school.
No matter where you go in the country, you better be putting them in private school if you want them to be able to think.
Yeah! Like a good Catholic school!
Yyyyep, no stifling of thought in those places!
Of course not, if you're stifling their thoughts then how do you know they're thinking what they're supposed to be?
 

GasBandit

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You go to a Catholic school, it's expected that they indoctrinate you to look to the catholic church for the solution to their deep, tough problems. You go to Hebrew school, they indoctrinate you to look to the synagogue for the solution to your deep, tough problems... so why is it hard for you to believe that when you go to a government school, they indoctrinate you to look to government for the solution to your deep, tough problems?

Send them to a nice secular montessouri school, so they'll look within themselves for the answer, instead of outside.
 
GasBandit said:
You go to a Catholic school, it's expected that they indoctrinate you to look to the catholic church for the solution to their deep, tough problems. You go to Hebrew school, they indoctrinate you to look to the synagogue for the solution to your deep, tough problems... so why is it hard for you to believe that when you go to a government school, they indoctrinate you to look to government for the solution to your deep, tough problems?

Send them to a nice secular montessouri school, so they'll look within themselves for the answer, instead of outside.
I guess by looking to the church for answers is why Catholic School Kids preform so much better in reading, math and science than public school kids.
 
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Selgeron

I went to a nice secular private school and it gave me a definite advantage above kids who went to the public schools.. However there were still a ton of really stupid kids there too, so who knows.

Unfortunately for my ego the school was too smart, they took all the kids who weren't in College Prep classes and gave them classes in plumbing carpeting and electric work, and now they're just heaps more successful than me.

Still though, good move on the school's part.
 

GasBandit

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sixpackshaker said:
GasBandit said:
You go to a Catholic school, it's expected that they indoctrinate you to look to the catholic church for the solution to their deep, tough problems. You go to Hebrew school, they indoctrinate you to look to the synagogue for the solution to your deep, tough problems... so why is it hard for you to believe that when you go to a government school, they indoctrinate you to look to government for the solution to your deep, tough problems?

Send them to a nice secular montessouri school, so they'll look within themselves for the answer, instead of outside.
I guess by looking to the church for answers is why Catholic School Kids preform so much better in reading, math and science than public school kids.
I think that has more to do with nuns whacking you with yardsticks when your attention strays. Perhaps we should re-institute corporal punishment in public schools. Couldn't hurt.
 

North_Ranger

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TBH, Gas, your suggestion for Montessori schools seem... shall we say... laughable. The Montessori method sounds good on paper, but it can be quite taxing for the teacher to act in such intensive loco parentis manner. Admittedly, I'm prejudiced on the matter: I prefer teaching middle and high school classes. And as much as you hate anecdotal evidence, we were taught in teacher training that our first priority as EFL teachers is to teach the pupils to find about things on their own, to encourage them to use the language.

Dismissal as yet another socialist European in 3... 2... 1...
 
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JCM

North_Ranger said:
TBH, Gas, your suggestion for Montessori schools seem... shall we say... laughable. The Montessori method sounds good on paper, but it can be quite taxing for the teacher to act in such intensive loco parentis manner. Admittedly, I'm prejudiced on the matter: I prefer teaching middle and high school classes. And as much as you hate anecdotal evidence, we were taught in teacher training that our first priority as EFL teachers is to teach the pupils to find about things on their own, to encourage them to use the language.

Dismissal as yet another socialist European in 3... 2... 1...
Funnily, here the Montessori schools dont even have religion class, nor push forth any dogma.
I guess by looking to the church for answers is why Catholic School Kids preform so much better in reading, math and science than public school kids.
Its not that its a church, but that they have terribly high standards, for both students, teachers, and parent participation, above that of a normal everyday school.
 

North_Ranger

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JCM said:
North_Ranger said:
TBH, Gas, your suggestion for Montessori schools seem... shall we say... laughable. The Montessori method sounds good on paper, but it can be quite taxing for the teacher to act in such intensive loco parentis manner. Admittedly, I'm prejudiced on the matter: I prefer teaching middle and high school classes. And as much as you hate anecdotal evidence, we were taught in teacher training that our first priority as EFL teachers is to teach the pupils to find about things on their own, to encourage them to use the language.

Dismissal as yet another socialist European in 3... 2... 1...
Funnily, here the Montessori schools dont even have religion class, nor push forth any dogma.
Actually, I wasn't referring to any kind of teaching of religious dogma just there. I just wanted to point out that Gas's idea for a Montessori-style educational system would be impractical, costly and taxing on the teachers. If parents wish to put their children to a Montessori school or a Steiner school, fine, that's their prerogative and I have no beef with that. Some children benefit from that kind of teaching, yes, but based on my quite recent pedagogics studies I would be hesitant to say that a complete Montessori overhaul would result in anything else save loss of money, teaching staff and an angry parent backlash.

Of course, I'm talking from a purely Finnish perspective, but I still believe Gas is more than a little simplistic when he proposes Montessori as some kind of a "miracle diet" of teaching.
 

GasBandit

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Sorry, work's been kicking my ass. But to answer you, North, compared to American Public Schools, EVERY finnish school is practically montessouri. Your teachers are taught to encourage the kids to learn things on their own... our teachers are browbeaten into browbeating the kids to shut up, sit down, open your textbooks and copy information from one space to another for the benefit of a standardized test that determines how much money the school will get from the government.

So, remember this day, you finnish fish fucker - the day I said something of yours was better than something of ours :p
 

North_Ranger

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GasBandit said:
Sorry, work's been kicking my ass. But to answer you, North, compared to American Public Schools, EVERY finnish school is practically montessouri. Your teachers are taught to encourage the kids to learn things on their own... our teachers are browbeaten into browbeating the kids to shut up, sit down, open your textbooks and copy information from one space to another for the benefit of a standardized test that determines how much money the school will get from the government.

So, remember this day, you finnish fish fucker - the day I said something of yours was better than something of ours :p
I still hate you, your family and your house pets for what you said about Finns and summer cabins.
 
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