Yeah, I was getting that feeling as well.this has clearly moved from a thought experiment
--Patrick
Yeah, I was getting that feeling as well.this has clearly moved from a thought experiment
Well, let's be fair. We knew this thread would do that in the beginning, because all threads of this kind follow that same pattern.How is that exactly a non-sequitor?[DOUBLEPOST=1347147067][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, this has clearly moved from a thought experiment (if it actually ever was one) to an atheism vs theism pissing match, so I'm out.
I see what you did thereWell, let's be fair. We knew this thread would do that in the beginning, because all threads of this kind follow that same pattern.
But if we knew what it was going to do all along, did it ever have free will?
I've had the love proof question posed to me before.Nice.
So, Bob. If, of course, I may call you Bob.
Do you have a family? Father? Mother? Statistically, it's quite probable, I mean.
If you do, I ask you two questions:
1. Do you love them?
and
2. Prove it.
Until such time as you can provide the answers to those questions adequately - not just to me, but to the entire populace - you're not changing anyone's mind.
Least of all mine.
Why are you so angry?You know what? I'm going to bow out of this due to the Yarborough Maxim:
"Never wrestle with a pig. You'll both get covered with mud, but the pig will enjoy it."
It seems he really wishes he could wrestle pigs, but was told not to? I dunno, maybe it's a jewish thing.Why are you so angry?
Have you ever made anything? Like model airplanes, paintings, or whatever? You care about what you've made. At least anybody I've met who likes doing such does.And yeah if he did make the universe no way he'd give a shit. We would basically be just a game of Sims to him.
Yes, but keep in mind that not all artists DO like their work. Some artists grow to resent there creations or resent them from the start. And if this guy existed, I say he just doesn't care. Least how I see it.Have you ever made anything? Like model airplanes, paintings, or whatever? You care about what you've made. At least anybody I've met who likes doing such does.
Have you ever made anything? Like model airplanes, paintings, or whatever? You care about what you've made. At least anybody I've met who likes doing such does.
Silent Bob
Or allowing hell to exist in the first place! Isn't eternity a little long for a punishment?
It depends, I suppose, on the amount of talent and effort invested. I make thousands of skin cells daily, but care little for any of them. They are all intricate pieces of work, but I would call none of them my chrostith.Have you ever made anything? Like model airplanes, paintings, or whatever? You care about what you've made. At least anybody I've met who likes doing such does.
Or at least read some decent theological writers and try to understand the biblical concept beyond what pop-culture and maybe a random church visit or street preacher screaming at the top of his lungs seems to have given people.Become Jewish. Hell lasts for a year at most.
No, just physical forces.I am not sure if there is a god, but I sure as hell no he has no effect on my life. There's no mystical force that controls my destiny.
Unless force is by definition mystical.I am not sure if there is a god, but I sure as hell no he has no effect on my life. There's no mystical force that controls my destiny.
Many forces do remain unexplained, though Clarke's 3rd law may apply.Unless force is by definition mystical.
By the same token, I'm not saying there is no God, just that proof of God's existence has not been scientifically verified. The fact that He has not yet been scientifically verified neither proves nor disproves His existence, and the very act of trying to do either will meet with certain fundamental challenges that may make it impossible to reach a definitive conclusion in either direction.I'm not saying that it's proof of god, but it doesn't disprove him.
No, he's saying not to worship any gods other than him. The commandment is "You shall have no other gods before me", or alternatively "You must not have any other god but me" or any other translation that says to not worship any god other than him.Going old Testament god, one concept I've always found funny is how he said "Worship no gods before me, for I am a Jealous god." He said that there were gods "before" him. Saying that he isn't the original god.
No, it's not. The translation is "You shall have no other gods before me" and the meaning is clear. I'll let wiki cover the details.I'm pretty sure the translation is "Thous shalt not worship any gods before me" implying there were gods made before him, but that is just one interpretation. It is incredibly debatable.
I read it in a book, "50 things your not supposed to know". I'm pretty sure its true but if not chocolate kudos to you.No, it's not. The translation is "You shall have no other gods before me" and the meaning is clear. I'll let wiki cover the details.
Isn't that how all this got started to begin with?So basically: "Dude, this one book says it, it must be true!"