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#1

Covar

Covar

New post-Wrestlemania wrestling thread.

  • Last nights Raw crowd was crazy. Loved the "Yes", "No", and "Si" chants.
  • Rock wants to hold the belt again, say it will happen and his match with Cena was just the beginning.
  • Santino retains the US Championship against Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger. The Funkasarous stops the post match beat down, and the Milan Miracle joins in the funky dancing.
  • Lord Tensai re-debut's and squashes Alex Riley.
  • Chris Jericho introduces CM Punk to his friend Jack Daniels.
  • Sheamus will face Alberto Del Rio (Si, Si, Si, Si) this Friday on Smackdown to earn a future shot at the WHC. Sheamus is being boo'd and drowned out by Daniel Bryan chants his entire segment. I feel bad for the guy because it's not like he booked the match.
  • Big Show presents an embarrassing Cody Rhodes Wrestlemania moment.
  • Miz defeats the Long Island Ice Z, possible feud here?
  • John Cena comes out to explain how he lost to the better opponent and that he would not be making excuses or turning heel. Offers respect to the Rock ("We want Lesner"), mentions the crowd as the reason he likes Raw ("Yes, Yes, Yes"), and gives a shout out to Daniel Bryan.
Brock Lesnar returns walks to the ring, Cena extends a hand, he takes it, then hits the F-5 on John Cena, ending the show.


#2

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

This didn't really need a new thread. You could've just changed the name of the other one.


#3

Covar

Covar

BAH! BAH I SAY!

So I'm slowly getting into ROH, it's not worth watching on tv, but I signed up so I can watch a stream of the show the next Thursday. I like that they don't try and be a direct competitor with the WWE, like a certain other company that's trying to make an iMPACT. Also the fact that each match gets a good amount of time.


#4

Frank

Frank

I saw the opening stuff with the Rock. Has there been anyone since him that could get the reactions from crowds that the Rock could with just a gesture?


#5

HCGLNS

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New thread!



#6

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy




#7

Covar

Covar

Kayfabe News: All WWE Wrestlers Now Hoping to Lose in 18 Seconds
:rofl:


#8

Covar

Covar

Fit Finley has been signed by ROH for a match at their Border Wars event in Toronto.


#9

Covar

Covar

Live Smackdown this Tuesday, because it's good for ratings.



#10

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

I dont know how true Brock's statement of taking the WWE to new heights was.. were they doing very well or not?


#11

HCGLNS

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They were on a downward slide that has lasted most of the past decade.


#12

Covar

Covar

Daniel Bryan's LeBell Lock is now called the Yes Lock.



#13

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I love how Kofi has to fight not cracking up. God, I love Bryan.


#14

Covar

Covar

Just ordered a Chikara DVD "A Death worse than Fate." This should be interesting.

Also trying hard not to make The Daniel Bryan Appreciation Thread.


#15

Covar

Covar

I marked out like a bitch when Edge's music hit.

Daniel Bryan should have never taken his referee shirt off.


#16

HCGLNS

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I am really annoyed with the CM Punk Jericho storyline. It is falling very very flat.


#17

Covar

Covar

You didn't like the officers giving a field sobriety test in the ring (sans a portable breathalyzer) while Paul Bearer froze to death in the freezer? (why didn't anyone help him?) Or Eve pulling out the "No way Stone Cold would have ever been able to wrestle" alcohol policy from out of thin air?

poor Josh Matthews though, he was just trying to do his job.


#18

Covar

Covar

Extreme Rules is tonight, and WWE is having a pre-show stream live on YouTube, like they did with Wrestlemania. Santino will defend his US Championship against the Miz, and the stipulation of Cody Rhodes and Big Show's Intercontinental Title match will be determined via a spin of the wheel.


#19

Covar

Covar

No better way to sum up the pre-show.
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#20

Covar

Covar

At Extreme Rules GoldbergRyback squashed two nobodies. Thanks to the Chicago fans for chanting what we were all thinking.

For those that didn't watch Raw, a referee botched the ending of one of the Beat the Clock Challenge matches, John Cena will face Johnny Ace at Over the Limit, and...

DANIEL BRYAN IS THE #1 CONTENDER FOR THE WWE TITLE!!!!
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#21

Covar

Covar

Ring of Honor will be streaming a match between CM Punk and Bryan Danielson on their website today between now and 8pm EDT. (supposedly, it's not up yet you need to sign up for at least a free account) As well as a match between the Briscoes and the House of Truth.

[UPDATE] Here's the match courtesy of ROH's YouTube channel.


#22

Frank

Frank

Chael Sonnen, middleweight MMA fighter, on having Stone Cold Steve Austin as his strength and conditioning trainer. This actually had me chuckling and I usually can't stand Chael's antics.



#23

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Some quick thoughts:

I hope Big Show's current angle turns him back into an angry wrecking machine.
I have been thoroughly impressed by Daniel Bryan's mic skills. Also, I can't wait to see him and Punk in the ring again. They gave us some great champ vs champ matches.
I hope the tag team division actually starts to pick up, as they seem to be foreshadowing.
Does anyone else think that Sheamus' title run is falling a bit.. dull?


#24

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#25

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

So Chris Jericho was suspended 30 days for desecrating the Brazilian flag. Apparently it's considered a misdemeanor in Brazil.
Kind of unfortunate, seeing as how often flags have been disrespected in wrestling. I understand the need by WWE to show that they are disciplining bad behavior, but I'm sure had Jericho even informed the crew of his intentions, no one would have known to tell him to not touch the flag.
Flag disrespecting is nothing new to wrestling. I can remember Shawn Michaels putting Canada's flag up his nose. And Iron Sheik throwing the American flag on the ground on several occasions.

Poor decision by Jericho, but I think the suspension may have been a bit excessive. Maybe this will mean he'll stick around at least 30 days longer now ;)


#26

Covar

Covar

Since they're going to need to scrap their Y2J/RKO feud maybe they can have Orton feud with Sheamus. Those two being at each other's throats was the only thing interesting about the buildup for the fatal four way match at Over the Limit.

I think Big Show and Cena will be good, and I'm really glad they're continuing the Daniel Bryan CM Punk feud. Now I just hope they have Christian and Cody Rhodes in a program for the IC belt. I find Cody to be one of the most talented young guys (next to Ziggler) on the roster right now, but he still needs that "I'm credible" push.


#27

Frank

Frank

Remember when JBL committed a crime in Germany and lost his job with CNBC because of it. He got suspended too.

No wait, he immediately went on to have a 9 month title reign as top heel of the company.


#28

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Covar said:
I find Cody to be one of the most talented young guys (next to Ziggler) on the roster right now, but he still needs that "I'm credible" push.
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I love watching those two, Ziggler and Rhodes, and I think they need credible opponents such as Christian and R Truth in the US and IC title pictures. I think they're still a bit young for a title reign, but I don't mean that in a sense that they don't deserve the major straps. I just would like to see the IC and US belts remain relevant instead of using it to build the current youngsters to main event level and resetting the mid-card belts to worthless..


#29

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Hell, I wouldn't mind seeing Bryan or Jericho or Orton going after those lower belts, it's not like once you've been a heavyweight champ there's no turning back


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Covar

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#32

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And more importantly Randy Orton is suspended for 60 days for his 2 1/2 violation of the wellness policy.


#33

Covar

Covar

All part of Vickie's plan to get Ziggler into the main event spot.


#34

Frank

Frank



#35

Covar

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#36

Covar

Covar



#37

HCGLNS

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You know what is awesome AJ is more over than most of the roster right now :)
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#38

Frank

Frank

Also, she's adorable as all hell.




#39

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Why do they call her the Geek Goddess?


#40

Frank

Frank

Probably because according to the WWE, Daniel Bryan Danielson is a geek.


#41

Covar

Covar

3 hour Raw next week (probably the last before it moves to 3 hours permanently).

Guess who's coming to evaluate Johnny Ace's job performance?
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#42

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Bumble the Boy Wonder said:
Why do they call her the Geek Goddess?
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Because she calls herself such and enjoys video games and comic books.

Also how long does Orton stay with the WWE? Apparently they are so pissed off at him they are thinking of firing him for his steroid abuse. Logic being that when he returns they can't push him back to the main event or risk making themselves look like hypocrites to the locker room, so that leaves him the highest paid midcarder in history, which is economic lunacy.


#43

HCGLNS

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IT'S TIME!

IT'S TIME!

IT'S

VADER TIME!


#44

Covar

Covar

Great Raw last night. Vince was excellent, and whoever booked the fatal-four-way match deserves a pat on the back.



#45

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

I was very pleasantly surprised by Khali in the fatal 4 way match. That was some of his best wrestling.


#46

Covar

Covar

I was pleased they had Ziggler steal the pinfall on Swagger, further breaking them up and allowing him to get the rub from Christian. I expected it to come down to Swagger and Ziggler, but that was absolutely the better choice.


#47

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Moar AJ :)

Less Albert :mad:


#48

Covar

Covar

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No Way Out silent film starring Daniel Bryan and AJ


#49

Covar

Covar

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#50

HCGLNS

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#51

Steve

Steve

She plays the cute crazy perfect.


#52

Covar

Covar

May I have your attention please?!

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#53

Covar

Covar

I'm a Cena fan, but I still find this funny.
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#54

Covar

Covar

After Smackdown tonight I'll be posting No Way Out card/hopes/predictions. In the mean time here's more AJ.

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#55

Covar

Covar

This Sunday at No Way Out:
  • David Otunga faces Brodus Clay in the preshow. Smackdown had Otunga come out and beat on Clays leg, making this the first preshow match that has some setup. Would be nice if this became a feud. Money still on Clay.
  • Santio and Ricardo Rodriguez face off in a Tuxedo match. Is this like a Bra and panties match? My money is on the US Champ.
  • Cody Rhodes and Christian for the IC title. I don't care who wins as long as the feud goes into Summer Slam.
  • Lelah vs Beth Phoenix for the Divas Championship. I honestly don't care.
  • Dolph Ziggler challenges Sheamus for the World Heavyweight Championship. I love the push for Ziggler, and would love for him to win, but I don't see it happening yet. Hopefully they continue his push, and this feud lasts longer.
  • CM Punk defends his WWE Championship against Kane and Daniel Bryan in a Triple Threat match. A.J. Will be involved. Question and answer time. Will CM Punk drop his title? YES! Does Kane lack the ability to get the pinfall or submission? YES! Will Daniel Bryan become the new WWE Champion? YES! YES! YES!
  • John Cena faces Big Show in a Steel Cage match with Vince McMahon at ringside. John will be fired, we're just not sure which John. With the 1000th Raw coming up I have a hard time seeing how they keep Johnny Ace in power but still have Cena around (unless he buys a ticket again).


#56

Covar

Covar

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And Raw can be summed up with one image
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#57

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

She is so over right now!

Hey mid-carders and job squad, pay attention to everything this girl is doing! She has been apart of the main storylines for almost a year now!

Otunga grew on me a little at the end of RAW.

I would like to see Teddy Long become senior GM for both RAW/Smackdown with Eve being Junior GM in charge of Smackdown but reporting to Teddy.

We are so close to a Ziggler swerve!


#58

Covar

Covar

To busy to watch Raw and Smackdown? The how about some handy 5 minute summaries? Well worth your time.





#59

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Can anyone explain how huge monster sized men can suddenly sneak up on people and surprise them?


#60

Covar

Covar

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Same reason why Kendo sticks are kept under the ring with the spare tables, chairs, ladders, and trashcans?
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AJ and Kane
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#61

HCGLNS

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#62

Covar

Covar

Raw Starts at 8 on July 23rd.


#63

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

I love that Punk is making copies of his belt


#64

Zappit

Zappit

Isn't it about time that they actually do something with Ryback?


#65

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Get that guy started in a feud with Stan Stansky, it's what the people demand


#66

Covar

Covar

Raw was incredibly bad Monday. As an example Jerishow got DQ'd because Big Show stopped Cena from pinning Y2J. HIS OWN FREAKING PARTNER!! If Maffew doesn't include that in the next Botchamania I'll be shocked.

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Friday Night Zackdown tomorrow night. Woo, woo, woo! You Know it.


#67

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

WWE as a whole has really been terrible lately, from what I've been reading.

Funny enough, apparently TNA has been knocking everything out of the park in the last few months. Their last two PPV's have been outstanding.


#68

Covar

Covar

Raw's been Raw, Smackdown's been Smackdown, but this past Monday only had two real matches, Cena and Kane vs JeriShow (with the terrible ending mentioned above) and Daniel Bryan and Eve against CM Punk and AJ (which actually featured Diva's wrestling) everything else was either an unbearably long promo or a squash match (Heath Slater got to job twice, in a row).

It was almost as worthless as the Smackdown before Wrestlemania.


#69

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

ThatNickGuy said:
WWE as a whole has really been terrible lately, from what I've been reading.

Funny enough, apparently TNA has been knocking everything out of the park in the last few months. Their last two PPV's have been outstanding.
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Bobby Roode and Austin Aries are the only thing worth watching on TNA. Everything else is terrible, beyond terrible to the point of disgusting.

The WWE has been a lot of fun recently, with some interesting storylines, BUT, what the fuck do they do after the massive 1000th episode of RAW. They may flounder on to Summerslam.


#70

Covar

Covar

In lieu of a quality Raw, here's a gif of the American Dragon dancing with the Divas.

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#72

Covar

Covar

Punk ribbing Chael Sonnen, they're apparently friends.

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#73

Zappit

Zappit

Rey Mysterio cleared to compete - I think he's back on Smackdown next week.


#74

Covar

Covar

Money in the Bank was last night. Overall I'm pleased. Ladder matches were good, including the WWE Championship ladder match, which I thought was going to be a stinker. WWE Championship match was as excellent as ever.

  • Dolph Ziggler wins the Blu briefcase!!!!!!!!!! Tyson Kidd did well for himself, nice to see him utilized.
  • Miz Returns. Enters himself into the WWE Chamionship ladder match
  • Prime Time Players loose to Epico and Primo
  • Sheamus retains over Del Rio, Ziggler tries to cash in, argues with Del Rio, argues with Ref, gets brogue kicked before the ref can ring the bell
  • He still has the briefcase.
  • CM Punk retains over Daniel Bryan. YES! YES! YES! (honestly I would have been happy with whomever won)
  • The Ryback is unleashed, appears to almost loose to Tyler Rex and Curt Hawkins.
  • 6-woman tag match. Actually goes on for an okay amount of time
  • Big Show gets burried in ladders, has a special ladder for himself. Cena beats Shows head with the briefcase, ripping it off the handle. Great job by everyone involved. Kane is just solid at anything, Jericho is still awesome, and the Miz continued to be a worthless snake that doesn't belong.
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#75

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AJ & Daniel Bryan are getting married on Monday Night RAW!

What could possibly go right?


#76

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy



Oh my god. OH MY GOD. It's true. All this time and I had no idea!


#77

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Gotta give wardrobe a huge prop for always matching his face paint, trunks and streamers.


#78

Frank

Frank

This is an oldie but amazey. Single best promo ever. Scott Steiner is a national treasure.



#79

Covar

Covar

Raw 1000 was great. Not many matches, but a wonderful celebration of the show. If you weren't marking out you're dead inside, or a young fan. Avoiding the dirt sheets made for a lot of fun surprises. If you missed it I would definitely *ahem* check it out.

Obligatory AJ moment!


#80

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country." Oh, COME ON.

I thought the show was okay, at best. For three hours, we had maybe 30-35 minutes of actual wrestling.

There were some good segments, like the HHH/Brock segment, which Steph totally made watchable (in more ways than one :unibrow:). CM Punk's turn at the end was awesome. And it was surreal to see most of DX reunited.

That said, while there were some storylines continued, it was mostly a nothing show. Sure, it was fun to see who appeared, but almost none of them did anything worthwhile. It was like nostalgia porn or fan service, shoving notable figure after notable figure in your face, shouting, "Look who it is! See them! Here they are! And now that you see them, poof! They're gone!"

That said, Mae Young's hand was hilarious.


#81

Covar

Covar

Running through my head as Show is attacking Cena with Punk looking on...
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#82

Frank

Frank

So, I'm watching RAW 1000 now and they gave a prize to the 100,000,000th social media follower? So basically, some asshole who was late to the party in supporting them gets the accolades and wins a trip? Lesson is clear, don't support them until the very last minute.


#83

Covar

Covar

Summary of the Brodus Clay/Dude Love dance party last night:
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#84

Zappit

Zappit

Can't help but feel they really wasted the whole DX reunion. Vince introducing them!?! With no confrontation or harassment? Nah, that ain't right.


#85

Covar

Covar

Nice of them to help put Damian Sandow over.


#86

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Covar said:
Nice of them to help put Damian Sandow over.
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Is that sarcasm? Because my definition of putting someone over would be having him actually get a one-up on the situation. He got flattened like a jobber.[DOUBLEPOST=1343155144][/DOUBLEPOST]As far as Jack Swagger goes, he had his chance. He didn't get over.
(It doesn't help that they shoved him down our throat, whether we wanted him or not.)


#87

Covar

Covar

eh the rub then (stupid carny terms). Although him going over on DX would have skyrocketed him to one of the most hated heels in the company. Still him being in a segment with DX certainly helps him more than not being a segment with DX, even if he got put through a chain of finishers faster than Ricardo Rodriquez.

Speaking of shoved down our throat...
Was anyone else shocked that Miz won the IC with a clean win? I hope that becomes a regular thing. He would be a much better heel if he could be a cocky heel that has at least something behind him (other than Alex Reilly).


#88

Frank

Frank

It's Triple H, of course he wasn't going to get any sort of leg up. Brock Lesnar can't even do that.


#89

Zappit

Zappit

Frank said:
It's Triple H, of course he wasn't going to get any sort of leg up. Brock Lesnar can't even do that.
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Yeah, but has anyone ever actually liked Lesnar - ever? The guy plays an ass on the show, and pretty much is an ass outside, too.


#90

Frank

Frank

Lesnar was huge over and still is (or was I guess). He drew massive numbers to the UFC.


#91

Steve

Steve

Frank said:
This is an oldie but amazey. Single best promo ever. Scott Steiner is a national treasure.

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That is one of the best promos I've seen. I'm going to memorize this, remove specific wrestler names and use this speech on my coworkers tomorrow.


#92

Null

Null

So, anyone know if there's been a pen & paper Pro Wrestling RPG?

Would anyone be interested in such a thing?


#93

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Null said:
So, anyone know if there's been a pen & paper Pro Wrestling RPG?

Would anyone be interested in such a thing?
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A friend of mine and I have a home-brewed system, but moved away from it a number of years ago. We kept trying to play-test it and get it off the ground, but it just never happened. But the times that we had play-tested it, the people that played it really dug it. It was a re-working of a system he originally created back in high school that a bunch of our friends and us loved.


#94

Null

Null

ThatNickGuy said:
A friend of mine and I have a home-brewed system, but moved away from it a number of years ago. We kept trying to play-test it and get it off the ground, but it just never happened. But the times that we had play-tested it, the people that played it really dug it. It was a re-working of a system he originally created back in high school that a bunch of our friends and us loved.
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I'm thinking of a d6 system, like Green Ronin's Dragon Age or Song of Ice and Fire RPGs. Stats would be Muscle, Endurance, Agility, Technique, Appeal, Speed, and Smarts. Muscle would grant bonuses to throws and slams and increase striking damage. Endurance would resist Submission attacks, determine stamina, and soak damage. Agility would increase striking accuracy, and grant bonuses to leaping and running attacks. Technique would grant bonuses to submission and counter-attacks, and be used for escaping holds. Appeal grants bonuses to your advancement rate and promotional efforts, and increases crowd support. Speed grants bonuses to initiative and dodging striking attacks, and increases how far you can move per round (leaping, running, climbing). Smarts is for dirty attacks (both committing and watching out for) and behind-the-scenes efforts - playing opponents off each other, forming factions, etc. Each attribute has a score of 1-6, you roll a d6 for each point you have in it vs a target number.

NPC wrestler types: jobber (mook), mid-card, local favorite, elite jobber (the guy who can wipe the mat with other jobbers but always loses to the big-stars), titan, juggernaut.

Classes: Bruiser (heavyweight/super heavyweight, focuses on power and endurance), Striker (heavyweight/cruiserweight, all-arounder usually with a background in boxing or martial arts / MMA) , Technician (any weight class, focus on technique and smarts), Luchadore (cruiserweight, high flying and fearless, focus on agility and speed) , Crowdpleaser (any weight class, focus on Appeal and smarts).


#95

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Yep, we had some of that, actually. 6 stats: Strength, Dexterity, Stamina, Toughness, Intelligence, and Charisma. Used different die, like 1D4 punches and 3D8 finishers.


#96

Covar

Covar

Vince to Daniel Bryan:
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AJ in a wedding Dress:
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CM Punk, #heel.
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AJ enjoys her new power:
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Daniel Bryan kicks a child!
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#97

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

What the hell is up with all the Facebook notices about "the undertaker" being dead?

It seems very inappropriate with the number of wrestlers that have actually died recently.


#98

Covar

Covar

No idea.

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#99

Zappit

Zappit

Seriously, what the hell was Dolph going for with that?

I'm getting sick of the one man band. Seriously, they drop John Morrison and keep this guy? Standards, man.


#100

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Rocker Dropper leg drop over standing prone opponent.


#101

Cheesy1

Cheesy1

Original World Wide Wrestling Federation Title Belt Found In Attic


#102

Covar

Covar

Miz did commentary last night. It wasn't "Awwwful." Actually it was quite fresh, and while he started out rough, you could definitely hear him improve throughout the night.

So after
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and
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Daniel Bryan and Kane were sent to anger management therapy (hilarious segments you should youtube them). How did it work out?

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#103

Frank

Frank

How is this possible?

Booker T, from the 2008 TNA Impact game.



Booker T, from the most recent WWE game.



How?


#104

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Is the second one on the Wii?


#105

Frank

Frank

No.


#106

Covar

Covar

Frank said:
No.
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Speaking of Booker T in WWE games...
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#107

Covar

Covar

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You're Welcome.


#108

Zappit

Zappit

Jerry Lawler suffers heart attack during Raw.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/stor...s-and-hospitalized-during-Raw-telecast-091012


#109

Covar

Covar

I hope he's ok. Considering how often he participates in the ring still I would have never have suspected.


#110

Covar

Covar

Zack Ryder will face Antonio Cesaro for the US Championship tonight at Night of Champions.

WOO! WOO! WOO! You know it.


#111

Zappit

Zappit

So CM Punk is really into playing the villain - punching a fan twice at the end of Raw.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/20...ht-raw-rachelle-goulding/index.html?hpt=hp_t3


#112

Covar

Covar

I'm not going to lie, I love that Vince is still willing to take bumps like that.


#113

Zappit

Zappit

Vince has been totally rips hit lately, getting rid of writers who struggled to adapt to the three hour Raw format. He's basically personally pushing Ryback to the forefront, too, even though he's been botching it a bit.


#114

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

So Jack Swagger just returned to the WWE after recovering from an injury.
He has been given a manager to help with his vocal skills.
He has a new story line about getting rid of immigrants to return America to greatness, putting him directly opposite the World Heavyweight Champion.
On Sunday he won the Elimination Chamber to become the #1 contender to face the World Heavyweight Champion at Wrestlemania.


So naturally on Tuesday he was arrested for DUI and marijuana possession.


#115

Covar

Covar

HCGLNS said:
So Jack Swagger just returned to the WWE after recovering from an injury.
He has been given a manager to help with his vocal skills.
He has a new story line about getting rid of immigrants to return America to greatness, putting him directly opposite the World Heavyweight Champion.
On Sunday he won the Elimination Chamber to become the #1 contender to face the World Heavyweight Champion at Wrestlemania.
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HCGLNS said:
So naturally on Tuesday he was arrested for DUI and marijuana possession.
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#116

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

This is when they put MARK FUCKING HENRY back in the world title picture and take on Del Rio for the belt at WM.

Because somebody's wig should be split on the biggest stage of them all.


#117

Covar

Covar

If you wanted a reason to watch Raw tonight, WWE posted this House Show video on YouTube.


#118

Zappit

Zappit

Taker-Punk at Wrestlemania. They weren't sure he would do it this year - the sticking issue being health or money. (Money.) the Cena-Punk match tonight was completely dependent on if Taker was in this year. If not, Punk would have won and taken on the Rock. This pretty much confirms Cena beats Rock, which lets Dwayne have an easier schedule for appearances and movie making.

Here we go - he's competing tonight, too!
http://www.prowrestling.com/the-undertaker-returns-to-action-at-wwe-live-event-in-texas-tonight/


#119

Covar

Covar

No Undertaker on Raw, but the Cena Punk match is a must see. One of the best matches on Raw in a while, and the first time in a long time the main event match was worthy of being called a main event.

also next week...


#120

Zappit

Zappit

I really hope the Fandango thing turns into a Brodus Clay preview situation, and it's a complete misdirection.


#121

Zappit

Zappit

Sad day. William Moody, better known as legendary manager Paul Bearer, passed away Tuesday night.

http://www.wwe.com/inside/superstars-tweet-respects-to-paul-bearer-26096727


#122

Covar

Covar

Why can't every week be part of the build up to Wrestlemania? Past 3 weeks have had great matches (This weeks highlight probably being Dolph Ziggler vs Daniel Bryan), and storylines that are actually interesting (non of which deal with either world title though :( ).


#123

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

http://blogs.canoe.ca/slam/general/x-pac-tore-a-new-one-on-himself/

:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:


#124

Zappit

Zappit

Ow. And it's not the first time that's happened?


#125

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

I love New Jersey now.


#126

Zappit

Zappit

That was a really fun crowd.


#127

Frank

Frank

That was a pretty terrible Wrestlemania.

I wonder how much it eats HHH that he can't get the same crowd reaction having a match with Lesnar that Jericho can with whoever Fandango is.


#128

Covar

Covar

Maybe he could have if they did something other than a damn one sided until it's time for Lesnar to lose, and they weren't dumb enough to try and follow Taker/Punk.


#129

Covar

Covar

That crowd was absolutely bananas! It was AMAZING!


Regarding the Fandangoing I loved that Cena danced along to it during his match.

Also best moment of the night, spoilered for those who haven't watched it yet (GO WATCH THIS WEEK'S RAW!)
Dolph Ziggler cashing in his Money in the Bank Briefcase to become the new World Heavyweight Champion. The crowd was demanding it during the entire match between Swagger and Del Rio, and when his music hit it sounded like the roof was being blown off the IZOD Center.


#130

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

So Fandangoing is now a thing.

Seriously. His theme is now a top 40 hit, tearing up itunes, and being played as a victory theme at baseball games???

All because of New Jersey!

That's why wrestling is awesome.


#131

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

HCGLNS said:
So Fandangoing is now a thing.

Seriously. His theme is now a top 40 hit, tearing up itunes, and being played as a victory theme at baseball games???

All because of New Jersey!

That's why wrestling is awesome.
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To be fair, wouldn't it be a global effort? I mean, I would guess that there was a good mix of NJ locals, as well as people leftover from traveling to see WM

I'm so happy the Fandango thing caught on though. I was a huge fan of Johnny Curtis on Santino's Foreign Exchange, and when it was revealed he was going to be debuting as Fandango, I won't lie by saying I wasn't worried.

I thought for sure he was going to flop. But he's really owning the character, and his personality continues to shine through, regardless of how silly the gimmick is.


#132

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/15795/screw-the-harlem-shake-fandangoing-is-now-in

Yeah, it's becoming a bigger thing. I'm curious to see if it'll still be a big thing among wrestling fans once they're not crazy like New Jersey. :D


#133

Frank

Frank

Man, when THQ died, the one thing that might've turned out well is some other company getting the WWE game license and finally taking it away from Yukes. Then 2K gets the license and just immediately decides to let Yukes keep making the games.

No GOD DAMN IT.

and that Booker T thing from the last page should be enough to convince anyone to fucking take the games away from Yukes.


#134

Covar

Covar

Man Ziggler sold that stairs shot hardcore. That's why he's awesome.

In seriousness with a game (WWE14?) already in development prior to the sale, it would be a huge waste of mone not to continue on with Yukes for at least this year. There's also potential agreements THQ had with Yukes that 2k had to honor. Not to mention"people buy it anyway syndrome. See what happens in a year.


#135

Frank

Frank

I should have mentioned this, but Living Color playing CM Punk out was effing awesome. That song is incredibly bad ass and is the best ring entrance song they have going right now. Sucks they didn't let them play the whole song. Needed more time for P Diddy performing for no reason.


#136

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

I was surprised how awesome they still sounded. It was such a cool entrance.


#137

Covar

Covar

Raw and Smackdown are in the UK this week. What do fans there get to see? Undertaker and Team Hell No vs. the Shield on tonight's Raw


#138

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Bumble the Boy Wonder

Daniel Bryan has the most interesting story in the company right now.


#139

Zappit

Zappit

This Bryan/Kane/Orton vs. The Shield thing is really making literally everything else look like filler.


#140

Covar

Covar

Some notes:
  • Mark Henry deserves an Emmy for his performance.
  • Daniel Bryan continues to be one of the most amazing wrestlers in the company. He's making me care about a program with Orton.
  • We're finally getting a Shemus/Damian Sandow feud.
  • I'm sad there's no Divas that can keep up with AJ.
  • NXT is absolutely amazing. I'm serious guys it's fantastic. There's a manager with an ourtrageous French accent! William Regal on commentary, Dusty Rhodes as GM, long matches, great characters, belts that have significance, actual women's matches. If CM Punk and Daniel Bryan were on the show there'd be no reason to watch anything else.


#141

Frank

Frank

Sadly the McMahons are really making the show unwatchable otherwise.


#142

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I don't know what it is, but it feels like WWE is starting to fire on all cylinders these days. Last week's show was phenomnal, kicking off several new storylines. This week had the great segment between Punk and Heyman, and then a fantastic main event in Orton/Bryan.

As far as the Divas go, I keep hoping and praying that maybe Kharma will come back. Likely'll never happen, but I can hope. Given AJ's very tiny size, it'd make for a fantastic visual at least between the two.


#143

Covar

Covar

I was to busy watching Game 6 to watch more than the first hour of Raw. I'm glad they're continuing the excellence they started with last week. And AJ dressed up as Katelyn and making fun of her with Big E. was fantastic.


#144

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Doink died :(


#145

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

HCGLNS said:
Doink died :(
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Correction. Matt Borne, who played the original role of Doink (aka: the evil clown before he left WWF and it became a rotating cast of wrestlers) died. :(


#146

Covar

Covar

I don't know who in booking decided that every match needs offense from both wrestlers, but I want to hug them. It has made every match 2x as good as it was before, and amazingly enough it makes the the loser look strong, and the winner even stronger. Who would have thought it? </sarcasm>


#147

Covar

Covar

Guys, NXT is really fantastic. It's truly amazing. It is worth every penny of my Hulu+ subscription. Lots of great young talent, great matches, William F'N Regal, Dusty Rhodes as the Commissioner. It is by far the best wrestling promotion in Orlando.


#148

Zappit

Zappit

So apparently, Raw had a Cena/Ryback dark match. Three hours, and they couldn't fit that on the air...


#149

Zappit

Zappit

Orton wins the Money in the Bank match. This is how they'll work in the heel turn he's been begging for, taking out John Cena and swiping the belt. Leaves room for Punk v. Brock, and sets up a crazed Daniel Bryan looking to avenge Kane. Just don't turn the Wyatt's into another Flock. Bryan's already got the beard for recruitment to the cult. They probably will put up RVD against Axel next for the IC title, since Rob's had some crazy matches for that belt before.

Sandow gets the other briefcase, possibly setting up a huge feud with Cody Rhodes. Ryback gets the win against Jericho, which sucks, because Jericho doesn't deserve to go out a jobber after being (and still is) one of the most entertaining guys they've ever had. It's Ryback and his repertoire of three moves that deserves to wash out.

Edit - Just read the results. Axel interfered and bashed Bryan with a chair. There's the next IC brawl.


#150

Covar

Covar

More comments later, but I wanted to bring up that Y2J has stated that he doesn't mind and wants to job to young talent. He's accomplished pretty much everything he wants in wrestling, and looks to do his part in building up new talent. He doesn't want to subject the new guys to the same situation he experienced at WCW.


#151

Zappit

Zappit

Covar said:
More comments later, but I wanted to bring up that Y2J has stated that he doesn't mind and wants to job to young talent. He's accomplished pretty much everything he wants in wrestling, and looks to do his part in building up new talent. He doesn't want to subject the new guys to the same situation he experienced at WCW.
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That's...really decent of him. Gotta respect that.


#152

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Zappit said:
Orton wins the Money in the Bank match. This is how they'll work in the heel turn he's been begging for, taking out John Cena and swiping the belt. Leaves room for Punk v. Brock, and sets up a crazed Daniel Bryan looking to avenge Kane. Just don't turn the Wyatt's into another Flock. Bryan's already got the beard for recruitment to the cult. They probably will put up RVD against Axel next for the IC title, since Rob's had some crazy matches for that belt before.

Sandow gets the other briefcase, possibly setting up a huge feud with Cody Rhodes. Ryback gets the win against Jericho, which sucks, because Jericho doesn't deserve to go out a jobber after being (and still is) one of the most entertaining guys they've ever had. It's Ryback and his repertoire of three moves that deserves to wash out.

Edit - Just read the results. Axel interfered and bashed Bryan with a chair. There's the next IC brawl.
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I think the Axel thing had a lot more to do with the Punk/Heyman angle than it did Bryan. I doubt think Bryan'll be crossing paths with him unless it's to squash him like a bug.[DOUBLEPOST=1373869033][/DOUBLEPOST]http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/18444/more-on-wwes-big-2k14-announcement-inside-here

Also, The Ultimate Warrior will be working with WWE...sort of. He'll be featured in the upcoming game, WWE 2K14. Apparently, they're already talking of filming some promos for him and such. I doubt it'll be any more than this, much like when Macho Man did some promotional work for WWE All Stars.


#153

Zappit

Zappit

The Ultimate Douchebag, eh? Sorry they're lowering themselves like that. I just remember the story Bret Hart told about him. A gravely ill Make a Wish kid was brought to a show and wanted to meet him. They only had a short time to be there. When he was informed, he got pissy and told them he'd do it later, going so far as to ignore them when he walked past. A bunch of the other guys met with the kid. When UW finally decided to spare a few minutes, they had already gone back to the hospital. They only asked for a few minutes of his time, and he couldn't even pay lip service.


#154

Covar

Covar

Zappit said:
That's...really decent of him. Gotta respect that.
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Yea, doesn't make me like the match or the really bad build up to it, but it makes me respect the hell out of Jericho even more. All that being said I hate, hate, HATE what they've done to the Ryback Character. They've destroyed a perfectly good muscle monster character for what seems like nothing. If he had stayed the tough as nails beast he was when feuding with Punk and Cena, and got a clean win over Y2J that would have been something.

So MITB is one of the 3 PPVs I order, and it was mostly a pretty good show. The pre-show tag match really should have been on the card proper. Rollins, Raines, and the Usos put on a heck of a tag match, and I say this as a person who's not a fan of Tag Team matches in general (The hot tag is one of the worst/laziest easy spots in wrestling).

The WHC money in the bank ladder match was possibly the match of the night. I'm sad to see Rhodes Scholars destroyed, but I love that both of them are going to get pushed now. They pushed this as the up-an-comers match, and they delivered. Lots of great moments.

Brad Maddox, the heel trying to be a face. Done wonderfully, going for cheap pops that Mick Foley would think is to forced, praising Vickie Guerrero, and insulting the city without realizing it.

The Miz getting Paul Heyman ejected from the match was fantastic, as the result. Always nice when a match doesn't have to end a certain way just because the winner is a heel.

There was a Diva's Match. It was okay, not terrible.

Worst match of the night goes to Ryback and Chris Jericho. Terrible match, and a worse ending.
A QUICK ROLLUP!!!! YOU HAVE THE 291 LB RYBACK AND YOU DECIDE THE BEST WAY FOR A CLEAN WIN IS A FREAKIN ROLLUP!!!! utter garbage.

Dolph Ziggler and Alberto Del Rio put on a great technical match with and ending that did it's job of angering me, continuing the feud, and breaking up Team Rocket. I wanted nothing more out of the night than the chance to see Ziggler win back the WHC cleanly (well, maybe for Daniel Bryan to win the Briefcase). If the goal was to get me hungry to buy Summer Slam, well...it's probably going to happen.

Cena was, amazingly enough, able to hit the AA on paid tv Mark Henry. Don't get me wrong, I like John Cena, I get it he's strong. He's also capable of wrestling good matches. Maybe we can put him against someone who can also move around in the ring? Maybe a big star who, along with the audience, just itching for a heel turn. It will probably never happen ... oh. Okay then.

The (sigh) All-Star Money in the Bank Ladder Match (stupid name) was a good match. Fun to see RVD in this PG WWE throwing himself onto ladders every time he took a fall. It was like a blast from the past. Everybody was good in the match, and while it's not the result I would have liked to see, it should bring some change to the landscape which is a good thing.


#155

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Uh oh, guys! Grampa's off his meds again!



#156

Covar

Covar

Forgot to mention, sign of the night: "If Fandango Wins We Foxtrot!"


#157

Frank

Frank

Holy fuck that game looks embarrassingly bad.


#158

Covar

Covar

Watch the end of Raw from this past Monday to learn what "over as fuck" sounds like.

Also Charlotte, daughter of Ric Flair, made her debut on this week's episode of NXT with her father in her corner. Oh, and she's pretty good.


#159

Covar

Covar



#160

Covar

Covar

I never realized how badly I wanted to see Daniel Bryan face John Cena for the WWE title until it was announced. I'm super-excited for Summer Slam.

The rest of the card seems a little weak, but I don't care.


#161

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

YES! YES! YES!


#162

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

That was an awesome PPV. Well, the two big main event matches were awesome. Everything else was so-so, but GODDAMN did the marquee matches deliver.


#163

Covar

Covar


Great PPV, hate, hate, HATED the ending.

I'll post more in the morning.


#164

Covar

Covar

So SummerSlam was excellent. I usually just order MITB because SummerSlam normally just seems like yet another PPV, but this year I'm glad they selected Daniel Bryan/Cena as a main event because it got me to order what just might be my favorite PPV I've seen this year. They finally managed to get the "Biggest PPV of the Summer!" feel down, as it actually felt like the number 2 show they want it to be.

  • Pre-show match was pretty good, although I'm finding that I'm not enjoying RVD as much as I used to. I particularly liked Shawn Michaels' comment after the finish that the problem with having Big men (Show and Mark Henry) as your backup at ringside is that they can't necessarily move across to the other side of the ring fast enough to help you, especially when your opponent has much smaller guys like Seth Rollins and Roman Reins.
  • Ring of Fire match was ok. Pretty much an inferno match without anyone being lit on fire. I love that it was a no DQ match because the ring is surrounded by fire. Fire designed to keep the other members of the Wyatt Family from interfering. Success! ...crap.
  • Damian Sandow vs Cody Rhodes was great. Solid back and forth, not much else to say it was a solid good match.
  • Alberto Del Rio vs Christian. Too guys who are great in the ring, but can't make me bother to care about either of them outside the ring. It was technically a good match, but I still can't watch Christian without wishing I could watch Edge instead, and Del Rio is at his best when he has a loud, chatty, charismatic opponent who can contrast how dull he is.
  • Natalya vs Brie Bella. This happened. Yay for having more diva matches, particularly ones that don't revolve around the title, but this was just a really awkward promotion for Total Diva's (which WWE does a really terrible job trying to cross-promote, but that's another post/thread). Natalya's music is just a big tease too.
  • CM Punk vs BrOCK lesNAR (Paul Heyman's Emphasis) in a no DQ match. If you still needed a compelling reason to watch SummerSlam 2013 and Daniel Bryan in the main event for the WWE title wasn't it (what's wrong with you?!) this was it. Match of the Night. By far the best Brock Lesnar match since he returned last year. CM Punk was as amazing as ever. Paul Heyman at ringside. No Curtis Axel. Brock Lesnar was exactly the beast you want to see him be, Punk (and everyone involved really) took advantage of the no DQ stipulation to do more than just hit someone with a chair or break a table.
  • AJ and Big E. Langston vs Dolph Ziggler and Katelyn happened. I should have liked this more than I did, but really it was your bathroom break match between Main Events (glad they learned their lesson from Wresltemania about this).
  • Daniel Bryan vs John Cena with special guest referee Triple H. Amazing match. Match of the Night. Both Cena and Bryan were in top form and brought their A game. Triple HHH was impartial and just melted into the background like a referee should. Wonderful back and forth match, with a finish that reminds me why I watch wrestling. Let me repeat that. The end of this match is everything I love and the reason I watch professional wrestling. That said...
  • The end of this pay-per-view is garbage. It makes me angry and I don't even want to talk about it. IF I was being rational I might say that it was sucessfull in that it made me hate HATE Randy Orton, and will have me tuning in to Raw to see the what happens next, but I'm NOT being rational and I hate Randy Orton in in stupid orange face. I HATE the finish with the heat of a million exploding suns.


#165

Frank

Frank

CM Punk and Lesnar made it clear how fucking insane it was to have a year of HHH Lesnar before it.

I can see why they did what they did with Daniel Bryan and Randy Orton. With Cena out now you have a top babyface who has a top heel to chase.


#166

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

We'll see how tonight plays out. HHH is now definately a heel, the fans may make Orton stay a heel or just go, well that's Randy for ya.

One thing I do not want is Evolution 2.0 to come out of this. We have enough heel factions as it is without diluting it even more.


#167

Frank

Frank

Yeah, the last thing they need is HHH heatsucking the entire thing and trying to make it all about himself.


#168

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

The wishful thinking of 2.0 is currently


HHH as the new Flair
Orton as the new HHH
Ryback as the new Batista
Barrett as the new Orton

The only thing I like about this is giving Barrett something to do.


#169

Zappit

Zappit

Would love to see Bryan put a new DX together just to piss off HHH. They can't keep it as Bryan vs. Orton, HHH, Shield, and the McMahons. They're doing hit jobs with the Shield; seems like an easy way to put a team together that way. HHH gets his camera time, playing the Vince to Bryan's HHH. Torch passed and whatnot.


#170

Frank

Frank

Frank said:
Yeah, the last thing they need is HHH heatsucking the entire thing and trying to make it all about himself.
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Surprise, surprise, Randy Orton is the minor role in this so far and it's entirely about HHH.


#171

Frank

Frank



#172

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

After the #pipebombshell on Monday, this thread needs more AJ

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#173

Covar

Covar

Segment from NXT with Renee Young, AJ Lee, and Bayley (who's just happy to be in the WWE). Their match was pretty good to.


#174

Frank

Frank

Jerry Lawler needs to retire, he's just awful. Take the heart attack as a sign.


#175

Zappit

Zappit

So, all that buildup for Los Matadores...and if I'm not mistaken...it was Primo and Epico with a new gimmick? Sure looked like them, and moved like them.


#176

Covar

Covar

Zappit said:
So, all that buildup for Los Matadores...and if I'm not mistaken...it was Primo and Epico with a new gimmick? Sure looked like them, and moved like them.
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It's called get the crowd chanting Ole for someone who's not El Generico Sami Zayn. Speaking of which Sami Zayn is amazing you guys! Seriously his matches are awesome. NXT is just awesome (See my other posts here). NXT is so great, it is pretty much every awesome part of wrestling crammed into one hour of television.[DOUBLEPOST=1380597386,1380596934][/DOUBLEPOST]To expand, Sami Zayn is one of the hottest things going on in NXT right now (runners up being a heel so in love with himself he does nothing but take selfies with his iPhone and women's wrestling). They'll probably bring him up next, but first they need to condition the crowd to stop singing Ole for him (Zayn comes from the independents where he has known associations with the Masked Mexican Luchador El Generico).


#177

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

http://nickpiers.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/what-wwe-is-missing-no-more-authority-shenanigans/

Whereupon I rant about how sick I am of authority figure characters and storylines.


#178

HCGLNS

HCGLNS



#179

Covar

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:
http://nickpiers.wordpress.com/2013/10/07/what-wwe-is-missing-no-more-authority-shenanigans/

Whereupon I rant about how sick I am of authority figure characters and storylines.
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You need to watch NXT. The Commissioner (was Dusty Rhodes, changed to JBL while Dusty "recovers" from his injury by Big Show) shows up maybe once every other month. NXT is the best.


#180

Frank

Frank

Apparently I really need to be watching NXT. This gif is the single best thing I have ever seen.



#181

Covar

Covar

If I knew all it would take to get some of you to watch NXT was some Tyler Breeze, I would have posted gifs a long time ago.

Tyler Breeze (the one trying to take the selfie) is the great. For whatever reason the crowd has decided that he shouldn't be a heel (he's a fashion model who is 100% narcissistic), the place goes crazy for him, and he is completely entertaining. His whole feud with CJ Parker (The hippie moonchild) started when CJ Parker photobombed one of Breeze's pictures of himself.

NXT is everything that is wonderful about wrestling!


#182

Covar

Covar

Big E. Langston is a face now. This is great. Big E. is a great face.


#183

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Looks like we're in for another run of Orton/Cena matches, likely culminating at WrestleMania according to some rumours.

Orton vs. Cena? How original! Like we haven't seen THAT before dozens upon dozens of times.


#184

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Antonio Cesaro does a 100-rotation giant swing!
(see also: a very young-looking Daniel Bryan in the background)

Technically, it was around 80-something rotations, but the fans there got a little excited. Still impressive.



#185

Frank

Frank

Cesaro is rad.



#186

Covar

Covar

Frank said:
Cesaro is rad.

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That was match of the year, no hyperbole in claiming that. Cesaro is easily the most underused wrestler on the main roster.


#187

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

You know what is great about wrestling fans?

One person on his own made 80 signs up that said Cesaro Section and handed them out to everyone in his section on RAW. #1 topic of discussion after that raw was #Cesarosection.



#188

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Inspired by seeing this video, I wrote a blog post wondering if Rock or Austin would get over in today's WWE environment. Spoiler: no, they wouldn't.

http://nickpiers.wordpress.com/2013/11/25/what-wwe-is-missing-then-vs-now/


#189

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

ThatNickGuy said:
I’ll be honest: I rarely even bother watching wrestling anymore.
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That's when I should have stopped reading that tripe.


#190

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

HCGLNS said:
That's when I should have stopped reading that tripe.
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:(

In all honesty, there are few reasons to even bother anymore. There's no point in getting behind any one wrestler anymore because their push could be nullified at the whim of WWE for whatever ridiculous reason.


#191

Frank

Frank

ThatNickGuy said:
Inspired by seeing this video, I wrote a blog post wondering if Rock or Austin would get over in today's WWE environment. Spoiler: no, they wouldn't.

http://nickpiers.wordpress.com/2013/11/25/what-wwe-is-missing-then-vs-now/
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Austin would have been deemed a failure after the Ringmaster and would never get another chance. Same with Rock and Rocky Maivia. Straight up.

And after reading your blog post, you basically said that.


#192

Covar

Covar

NXT is weekly wrestling bliss. Last week featured a setup for the big 200th episode with Antonio Cesaro and William Regal developing beef with each other, further development of the ongoing women's division storyline, Tyler Breeze, and had a great number one contender's match between two faces, Sami Zhayn and Adrian Neville, after a tie in the previous week's beat the clock challenge. Oh and Renee Young and William Regal on commentary.

Seriously the women's division in NXT really highlights just how bad the main roster's divas division is in both wrestling and storylines. Hell it's storyline is better than most of the storylines going on in Raw and SmackDown period. Just last week we got Emma and Paige's rivalry over the women's championship reaching even higher levels. Which is all part of Summer Rae's plan to take over the division, a nefarious plot which only Bayley is managing to recognize after her friend Charlotte turned on her during a Tag Team match to join the BFFs (Bold Fierce Females, Summer Rae and Sasha Banks). Now Bayley's got a tag match coming up this week against Summer and Sasha, except her potential tag partners (Paige and Emma) are now to busy fighting with each other to pay attention to anything else. :aaah: Oh and this whole thing has been building on itself since this past May, when the Women's Championship Tournament to determine the inaugural champion was started.

Meanwhile on Raw, the Diva's who don't star on Total Divas, including Diva's Champion AJ Lee, are jealous of the ones that do. Because they're prettier or something? :facepalm: I don't know, and I'm pretty sure the writers don't either.


#193

Frank

Frank

Crossposting from the trailers thread.

This is a real thing.



#194

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Don't be surprised that I have known about this for months. :ninja:


#195

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Not gonna lie. That looks like a lot of fun. I'll probably check it out through totally legal means via a website that rhymes with "climate day."


#196

Zappit

Zappit

So Hunico is Sin Cara now. Wonder if that's just to keep the character in until the original guy comes back, if the original guy is gone, etc...

Edit: looks like it's permanent.

Interesting thing about the Scooby Doo trailer - the monster is just Erick Rowan in a different mask.


#197

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Yay!

aj champ.gif


#198

Frank

Frank

Watching some Youtube this early morning and I came across this. You can say anything you want about the fed but God damn it, they can put together compelling video packages. The Rock/Stone Cold Wrestlemania 17 My Way one is probably my favorite. It's so damn good it makes Limp Bizkit acceptable.



#199

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

If you're a fan of wrestling at all, you NEED to see this week's NXT. The first half hour is basically a clip show, but the second half of the show?

Antonio Caesaro vs. William Regal. 30 minutes. Super technical match. It's as fantastic as it sounds.


#200

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

http://nickpiers.wordpress.com/2014/01/05/bump-in-the-road-part-2-halifax-emotional-explosion/

Part 2 of my multi-part series detailing my attempts to get into the wrestling business. This time: Halifax.


#201

Covar

Covar

Old School Raw tonight, featuring the debut of Daniel Wyatt.


#202

Frank

Frank

God damn they are doing everything they can to make people not give a shit about DB.


#203

Zappit

Zappit

It's common knowledge that creative genuinely doesn't want DB to be a main draw. Triple H was legitimately pissed when the Washington crowd drowned him out during that stupid Ascension Ceremony a few weeks back.

Granted, this storyline could have a terrific payoff when the Wyatts go after the Authority. Kane as a plant would give relevance to his feud with the Wyatts that suddenly dropped for no reason.


#204

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy



How great was it to see Jake the Snake? And my god, the man looks incredibly healthy and happy. I've been watching his progress through the past year to clean himself up and get healthy and you can see it. He looks like a million bucks.

Now, let's see him as one of the 30 guys in the Rumble and then on to the Hall of Fame!


#205

Frank

Frank

He needs to work there in creative. I know I'm not the only person that thinks so.


#206

Covar

Covar

Daniel Bryan, time traveler:


Bah, can't use the time code query, Put it around 6 minutes.


#207

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

For those curious, time travelling Daniel Bryan appears at around the 6:09 mark.


#208

Covar

Covar

oops, I had pasted a link to make it start around 6 minutes in. Let me see if I can fix that.


#209

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

http://www.wwe.com/inside/wwe-network-to-launch-feb-24-26174061

WWE Network to launch late February. Essentially, it's a Netflix-like program for $9.99 that will not only include access to their huge library, but will ALSO include all 12 annual PPVs within that $9.99 cost.

Cue "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!" memes.

Though admittedly, it'll only be available in the U.S. for now, Canada and worldwide by late 2014 or early 2015.

I'm still sold.


#210

Zappit

Zappit

Ten bucks a month for the PPVs on iOS rather than $50+ through television PPV? Nice. Access to all past PPVs anytime? Good. Access to all archival footage? Good.

This would do well, I think, if their servers are strong.


#211

Covar

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:
Cue "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!" memes.
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Zappit said:
Ten bucks a month for the PPVs on iOS rather than $50+ through television PPV? Nice. Access to all past PPVs anytime? Good. Access to all archival footage? Good.

This would do well, I think, if their servers are strong.
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If you have a 360, ps3/4, or roku you'll also be able to watch it on your TV. The first live PPV available will be WrestleMania XXX so they're definitely going to have incentive to make sure their infrastructure is up to the task.

WWE PPVs have been available for purchase digitally before, I've never ordered one direct like that so I can't say how well it worked.


#212

Covar

Covar

Longtime women wrestler Mae Young has passed away at age 90.
http://www.uproxx.com/sports/2014/01/rip-mae-young-1923-2014/


#213

Frank

Frank

Yeah, I was pretty pumped about it until the whole wait a year you filthy foreigner part.


#214

Covar

Covar

I wonder how much of that has to do with existing international agreements, versus infrastructure concerns. I know that Superstars (and NXT?) air on television overseas, they might need to get those out of contracts before they roll out internationally.


#215

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Women's wrestler Mae Young was taken off life support today and expected to pass on any time. It's strange, because reports of her death have gone back and forth, so even at almost 100, that old bird is still surprising us. Heh, probably threatening to show Death her puppies if he comes to get her.

(Ordinarily, I'm not one for tasteless jokes, but Young is/was apparently not only a tough broad, but REALLY dirty minded. This is stories from wrestlers backstage and the business is really filthy behind the scenes, so this is coming from THAT source.)


#216

Covar

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:
Women's wrestler Mae Young was taken off life support today and expected to pass on any time. It's strange, because reports of her death have gone back and forth, so even at almost 100, that old bird is still surprising us. Heh, probably threatening to show Death her puppies if he comes to get her.
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I'm seeing corrections online about her passing. So I'll leave the article up, and simply state that she kicked out at 2.


#217

Covar

Covar

Articles about the Network (from real sources, not dirtsheets) are saying that WWE partnered with MLB Advanced Media to help provide the infrastructure. This is definitely good news, as MLB.tv is a great service.


#218

Zappit

Zappit

At 80 years old, she took a power bomb through a table from Bubba Ray Dudley. Supposedly, he really didn't want to do that stunt, but Young told him she'd rip his nuts off if he chickened out.


#219

Frank

Frank



#220

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

WWE Network makes me wish I still liked wrestling / wrestling was still good.


#221

Frank

Frank

I think that's what makes it so rad. Access to all past PPVs and old Raws and shit? Here's my money WWE. I don't even care about the current PPVs.


#222

Covar

Covar

Frank said:
I think that's what makes it so rad. Access to all past PPVs and old Raws and shit? Here's my money WWE. I don't even care about the current PPVs.
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I can't think of a reason why I wouldn't want to get it. I usually order 4 PPVs a year (Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, Money in the Bank, misc show they manage to sell me on) so it's worth it there. I pay for Hulu+ almost exclusively for NXT, that's moving to the Network so more value for me. The only aggravation is that it's not available until Feb 24th.


#223

Zappit

Zappit

Out of the Wyatts and onto the injured list: Daniel Bryan suffered a concussion during the cage match Monday night.

http://showrenity.com/daniel-bryan-suffers-concussion-raw/


#224

Covar

Covar

What an ending though. It was great


#225

Frank

Frank

For such a lame crowd, they sure went absofuckinglutely nuts for D-Bry. That yes chant was pretty intense.


#226

Zappit

Zappit

They haven't had a guy this over since Rock or Austin. But of course, they aren't taking advantage of that for the major matches. No, we get Cena and and Orton in a bland off. At least Orton can perform. He and Bryan have had awesome matches.


#227

Covar

Covar

Zappit said:
They haven't had a guy this over since Rock or Austin. But of course, they aren't taking advantage of that for the major matches. No, we get Cena and and Orton in a bland off. At least Orton can perform. He and Bryan have had awesome matches.
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The Rumble sells the PPV. The title match is because they feel they have to have one, and to setup for WrestleMania. bryan in a title match at the Royal Rumble would be a complete waste.


#228

Frank

Frank

ThatNickGuy said:


How great was it to see Jake the Snake? And my god, the man looks incredibly healthy and happy. I've been watching his progress through the past year to clean himself up and get healthy and you can see it. He looks like a million bucks.

Now, let's see him as one of the 30 guys in the Rumble and then on to the Hall of Fame!
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And way late, but God damn he had a cool ass theme. So fucking 80's, but so damn perfect.


#229

HCGLNS

HCGLNS



A very worthwhile 23 minutes.


#230

Frank

Frank

This Royal Rumble is the first WWE PPV I've watched in years.



And probably the last.


#231

Zappit

Zappit

Fans: Boooooooooo!
Vince: Hunter, are they booing?
HHH: No, sir. They're saying, "Boooo-tista."
Vince: Are you people saying "boo" or "Boooo-tista."
Fans: BOOOOOOOO!!!
Shawn Michaels: I was saying, "Boooo-tista."


#232

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Hopefully Cleveland will share our enthusiasms tomorrow night.


#233

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I just...I mean, I watched this live with a group of friends and we were just all so shocked. We've seen crowds turn on wrestlers and we've certainly seen crowds turn on matches. But never in my 30 years of watching have I ever seen a crowd completely turn and shit on the entire product. I mean, they booed and chanted against not only the world title match but also the Rumble win. Sure, they've been mad about a heel winning, but not completely booing someone out of the building like this and turning on the whole product.

I really, REALLY hope WWE sees the light here and will do some serious re-modelling with their plans or the next two months will only get worse. Can you imagine what the crowd might be like if they go through with the rumoured Batista/Orton main event?


#234

Zappit

Zappit

It might turn out like the old days in the eighties, where the crowd hurled garbage at the wrestlers and the ring.


#235

Frank

Frank

WCW style.



#236

Zappit

Zappit

Lookin' like they did sign Sting for Wrestlemania and a 2015 HoF induction.


#237

Covar

Covar

ThatNickGuy said:
I just...I mean, I watched this live with a group of friends and we were just all so shocked. We've seen crowds turn on wrestlers and we've certainly seen crowds turn on matches. But never in my 30 years of watching have I ever seen a crowd completely turn and shit on the entire product. I mean, they booed and chanted against not only the world title match but also the Rumble win. Sure, they've been mad about a heel winning, but not completely booing someone out of the building like this and turning on the whole product.

I really, REALLY hope WWE sees the light here and will do some serious re-modelling with their plans or the next two months will only get worse. Can you imagine what the crowd might be like if they go through with the rumoured Batista/Orton main event?
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I don't think Batista was meant to be a heel though. He certainly wasn't when he entered. I think that's what amazed me most, the crowd was fine with him entering, they just rather he not win the Rumble. The crowd was great. I don't think I ever heard Ray Mysterio get boo'd before.


#238

Covar

Covar

  • Bray Wyatt and Daniel Bryan had match of the night. I joked with my friends that I feel bad for everyone who had to try and follow it. Little did I realize...
  • Paul Heyman was the only thing that kept me even slightly interested in Lesnar beating Show mercilessly with chairs.
  • Love the crowd, some great chants throughout the night including "We want Divas" during the championship match.
  • Good job by Randy Orton for taking the fan's extremely vocal disinterest as a prime opportunity to engage them.
  • The Rumble was great right up until Rey Mysterio came out at number 30. It recovered well enough right up until the ending.
  • If they were not going to put Bryan in the Rumble they should have shuffled the order and had a heel come out last. There was only one person on the roster who wasn't going to get boo'd mercilessly, take advantage of that.


#239

Frank

Frank

They should have had Bad News Barrett really cement himself with a number 30 entry.

"I HAVE SOME BAAAAD NEWS. I'M NOT DANIEL BRYAN!"

But then some people actually on the roster might have been able to take part and ALL of HHH's buddy's needed to be represented.


#240

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Here's how you fix this,

Batista becomes the new Authority bad guy
CM Punk wins title at elimination chamber to set main event
the undertaker picks Bryan as his wrestlemania opponent
Bryan breaks streak


#241

Zappit

Zappit

Yeah, but they're basically bringing in Sting for the Sting-Taker dream match at Mania. So that's out.


#242

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

You'd likely have a lot more irate fans if Bryan beat the streak. At this point, I think Taker should honestly retire with the streak intact.

Give Bryan to HHH and have Bryan go over really strong.


#243

Covar

Covar

I'd be okay with the streak ending if it was to a younger guy who was also undefeated at mania. It would be super easy to build, you would still have a Wrestlemania streak coming out of it, and a new superstar.


#244

Frank

Frank

So, apparently a Grand Jury review of the suspicious death of Jimmy Snuka's girlfriend Nancy Argentino has been ordered.

http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/...end-death-grand-jury-20140128,0,4848348.story

The case that has LONG been thought to have involved Vince McMahon's hand in quieting it.


#245

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Background for those of you too young to remember;

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2013/05/05/20795786.html

ACCORDING TO ATTORNEY CUSHING, McMAHON MADE A REMARK at one point in their discussions that was at once insightful and chilling. "Look, I'm in the garbage business," the promoter said. "If you think I'm going to be hurt by the revelation that one of my wrestlers is really a violent individual, you're mistaken."
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#246

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

CM PUNK has left the WWE.


#247

Covar

Covar

HCGLNS said:
CM PUNK has allegedly left the WWE.
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This situation seems weird.


#248

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Who can blame him? The creative team can't keep straight what they're doing from week to week and worse. Plus, Punk himself is horribly run down, desperately in need of a break or a vacation. I say good on him. It boggles my mind that they put the guy that's so broken down in the ENTIRE Rumble match.

I'm surprised he didn't try holding out until after WrestleMania to get that sweet WM payday, though.


#249

Zappit

Zappit

Hmm...Punk in the first promo of Smackdown. Just not updating it, or signs of a work?

Also, Shield v. Wyatts at EC? Did Creative learn something about fucking with the fans the way they did? They have to realize that if they keep jerking the fans around the way they have, they'll have a Rumble-style crowd at Wrestlemania.


#250

Covar

Covar



I don't know what's real anymore.


#251

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Covar said:
I don't know what's real anymore.
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Given that the video is already down, neither do I.


#252

Covar

Covar

It was a production leak of the announcers mocking the audience for CM Punk chants.


#253

Covar

Covar

WWE Network comes out MONDAY! :aaah::aaah::aaah::aaah:

I plan to watch this Sunday's Elimination Chamber on it.


#254

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Covar said:
WWE Network comes out MONDAY! :aaah::aaah::aaah::aaah:

I plan to watch this Sunday's Elimination Chamber on it.
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Um, how? The Network doesn't launch until the day after?


#255

Covar

Covar

I'll watch it Monday ;) before I disappear into the depths of the Royal Rumble.

Also if anyone on here is getting the WWE Network (or even just the 1 week trial), be sure to check out the NXT live special NXT: ArRIVAL. Basically a NXT ppv with a card that should be awesome.


#256

Covar

Covar

Whelp the networks out. Everything on Demand seems to be working fine. Test bars were the only thing available "live" before I left for work. At first I thought the schedule/channel aspect would be a neat gimmick, but after being overwhelmed with all the content on there, I like the idea of a 24/7 "this is what we're watching now."


#257

Frank

Frank

Apparently it's not as uncensored as people had hoped. However, Botchamania made sure the most important WCW moment was intact.



#258

Covar

Covar

From what I've been hearing they've stripped unlicensed music (replaced with the Jim Johnston vault) and references to Owen's death in Over the Edge '99.

I haven't watched much to know more yet.[DOUBLEPOST=1393275662,1393275513][/DOUBLEPOST]I just got a Benoit disclaimer.


#259

Frank

Frank

So, I thought it wasn't available in Canada. I just accessed it via the free trial. I've only managed to get it to work for a short time before errors, but my errors are common amongst all users.

On a side note, I finally watched last weeks Raw.

That fuckin' Cesaro Cena match was literally better than 99% of all matches I've ever seen. Holy shit that was a hell of a thing.[DOUBLEPOST=1393276249,1393276118][/DOUBLEPOST]
Covar said:
From what I've been hearing they've stripped unlicensed music (replaced with the Jim Johnston vault) and references to Owen's death in Over the Edge '99.

I haven't watched much to know more yet.[DOUBLEPOST=1393275662,1393275513][/DOUBLEPOST]I just got a Benoit disclaimer.
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Not all of it. Undertaker has Rollin' and the amazing Rock/Austin Limp Bizkit My Way promo is there. I think it has to do with how broadcasting rights differ from resale rights.

Shit, most of the ECW stuff is removed. Lame-o.


#260

Covar

Covar

Oh good they kept the limp bizkit :rage:

Must have to do with licensing. I know there's stuff on the Network that was previously censored in the DVDs


#261

Frank

Frank

The big downside to the Network is it's gonna be hell on guys like Botchamania and OSW Review dudes who're going to have a hell of a time keeping anything on Youtube.


#262

Zappit

Zappit

I don't know what's better: that the Network is having major problems, or that we'll be subjected to Michael Cole telling us how to sign up for it the next six months.


#263

Covar

Covar

Frank said:
The big downside to the Network is it's gonna be hell on guys like Botchamania and OSW Review dudes who're going to have a hell of a time keeping anything on Youtube.
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Going to have?

Is OSW Wrestling video? I had assumed it was audio only like the AE podcast.

About to watch Bash at the Beach 96 once I get my dog downstairs.


#264

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Frank said:
Apparently it's not as uncensored as people had hoped. However, Botchamania made sure the most important WCW moment was intact.

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It's somehow truer now.


#265

Frank

Frank

Covar said:
Going to have?

Is OSW Wrestling video? I had assumed it was audio only like the AE podcast.

About to watch Bash at the Beach 96 once I get my dog downstairs.
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Oh yeah, looks like WWE has blocked their entire Youtube channel. Their video podcasts were great. OSW Review I mean.

Summerslam 89 still seems to work.



#266

Frank

Frank

Man, Hogan is a gross scumbag, but fuck off if hearing Real American start a show doesn't feel awesome.


#267

Covar

Covar

GUYS YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHO THE OUTSIDERS THIRD MAN WAS!!!! :aaah::aaah::aaah::aaah:


#268

Zappit

Zappit

So Jake Roberts just had emergency surgery to remove a cancerous tumor. Shame, since he was about to wrestle for an indie.


#269

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

On the plus side he is looking after himself to the point that he and his doctors noticed it.

And Boo-tista is now a heel.


#270

Covar

Covar

He can try and say he's a heel all he wants. Truth is he's getting X-Pac heat.


#271

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

I hope the crowds stop chanting at him and either all leave when his matches start or yell "Change the channel. Clap clap clap"

Man does he get winded fast.


#272

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

He was completely gassed at the end of a 5-minute, throwaway TV match. He's going to die trying to wrestle a 20-minute main event. It's not only terrible at this point, it's sad and pathetic that they think this'll work.

Thing is, I don't think it's even X-Pac heat. X-Pac heat was at least still booing him for being an asshole. They didn't hijack his matches because they didn't want him around. They just hated him. Here, they're actively booing Batistia because they don't WANT him around. And why would they? He's given us no reason to cheer him or give him a chance. Every move he does is sloppy as hell, he can't go 5 minutes without being exhausted, and while he was away failing at MMA and becoming a movie star, all he did was talk shit about the business. Fuck that guy.


#273

Covar

Covar

WWE Network is great. The live stream is surprisingly addicting for background viewing. Issues I had with the on demand programming, buffering and availability, are being resolved. Watching WrestleMania III now with little issue.


#274

Frank

Frank

I watched Wrestlemania X-7 (my favorite PPV) last night (forced the girlfriend to watch it with me, heh) and yup, I like the Network a great deal. I doubly love that it just straight up works for Canadians so far. Hopefully they don't roll out real geoblocking.

What I don't understand is why after the Undertaker beats HHH, the sound cuts out until it finally goes over to the Rock backstage. They played his them music when he came to the ring (The Limp Bizkit "classic" Rollin') so I'm in the dark as to why they cut the sound after.


#275

Covar

Covar

Guys! GUYS!!!

NXT ArRival is live tonight!!!!!!! @Frank you got to check out the show, it's going to be great.


#276

Frank

Frank

Oh man, they're starting it off with Cesaro and Zayne?

I am iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin.

Man, I'll take Regal on commentary over JBL or King any day.

"Specific Wrestler has such tenacity in the face of adversity"
"What are you talking about Mike-oh? Why are you so stupid and white and stupid Mike-oh? There's no conspiracies Mike-oh!"
"Well, ok, here's how you download the APP!"


#277

Frank

Frank

I would hate to have to follow that.

Stephanie forgot to announce them after saying she was going to announce them.

Ok, is Ernest "The Cat" Miller's old theme the most reused theme in all of WWE? Brodus Clay, Tons of Funk, Funkadactyls and now Xavier Woods? Jeez, it's noticeable guys.


#278

Frank

Frank

That was a pretty great show.

Alright, so I have no problem saying that the current crop of talent throughout all of WWE blows away anything they've ever had, wrestling wise. Just top to bottom there are incredible talents...and Big Show.


#279

Frank

Frank

Gif Highlights!







#280

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

I watched Arrival last night, myself. I don't have the Network since I don't want to do all the ridiculous work-arounds in order to get it.

But it absolutely blows my mind how good NXT is compared to the "big league" shows. The fans are actually invested in the characters and not trying to hijack the show. The right people are getting pushed for all the right reasons. There isn't an inch of time wasted on stupid backstage skits. In fact, there were even short promos between matches to hype each wrestler for upcoming matches on the show. On regular episodes of NXT, they'll have some amazing backstage promos to hype upcoming matches. For example, when Regal wrestled Cesaro a few weeks ago, he cut one of the BEST promos I've seen in a long time.

I cna't for the life of me understand how this show can be one of the best, consistent wrestling products in years while RAW is the drizzling shits.


#281

Frank

Frank

The divas in the WWE should be ashamed of the bullshit performances they produce after seeing Emma and Paige put on what they did there. It sucks that they're booking Emma like she's straight up Sean Penn in I am Sam special on Raw too.

That submission Paige used at the end was one of the coolest and difficult to pull off looking things I've seen.


#282

Zappit

Zappit

There was talk a while ago about AJ Styles coming to WWE, but I don't think anybody's gonna want him much now. His finisher, the Styles Clash, just broke Lionheart's neck in two places, (he has movement in his arms and legs) almost broke Roderick Strong's neck, and botched a move which nearly dropped Jay Lethal right on his head. Nobody's going to want to even work with the guy at this point.


#283

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Zappit said:
There was talk a while ago about AJ Styles coming to WWE, but I don't think anybody's gonna want him much now. His finisher, the Styles Clash, just broke Lionheart's neck in two places, (he has movement in his arms and legs) almost broke Roderick Strong's neck, and botched a move which nearly dropped Jay Lethal right on his head. Nobody's going to want to even work with the guy at this point.
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Not to mention that he's in his 40s and would have to pretty much start from scratch with a new name in NXT and such. Neither party has the patience for that, I think. And apparently Styles himself has absolutely no interest in signing up with them.

In other news, there's a strong rumour going around that CM Punk is 99% confirmed for RAW tomorrow night and will very likely be put into the main event along with Orton and Batista. I'll believe it when I see it, but it's amazing that his walk out wound up giving him what he wanted.


#284

Zappit

Zappit

I'm not surprised. The fans haven't been into the returning stars too much; the WWE is deathly afraid that the WM main event will get mercilessly jeered throughout the entire thing. They need Punk there, and it's basically the only way to save that match now that Bryan is booked.

They've done very little to build up any younger guys, banishing them to the mid card in favor of aging vets that won't last forever. Kofi should be a headliner. Ziggler absolutely should be a headliner, but because of a few comments, he's been buried deeper than shit, and is likely to be let go when his contract is up. That guy was the second coming of Chris Jericho, and they fucked it up terribly. Cesaro needs to be pushed. Instead we get the same retreads, or extremely bad calls like frigging Ryback, who has fewer moves than an NES fighting game. Even Daniel Bryan isn't getting the big push because his popularity happened on its own, and not by Creative's design; that has legitimately pissed off HHH. They've mismanaged an entire generation of talent, and the poor decisions of an entire decade will come back to haunt them. It's already starting.


#285

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Worse, they've been continuing to stay the course and ignore what the fans have wanted for years. It's to the point now that even general audience - not just the smarks - have rebelled against the product. That's a BAD sign and WWE has no clue what to do with it. Personally, one step in the right direction would be going totally cold turkey on authority figure characters and storylines. It's been going nearly non-stop as the main storyline since the Attitude Era. They also need to start showcasing titles other than the world title like they used to. The IC title is a joke now, the tag team division is nearly non-existent, and the woman's title is relegated to models who can't wrestle.

What's extraordinary is while the majority of the stuff going on has been crap, they CLEARLY still know how to push guys properly when they feel motivated. They've made Roman Reigns look like a trillion bucks and is starting to get some really strong reactions from the crowd. Hell, I'd argue that all six of The Shield and Wyatts have the potential to be future main eventers if given the chance. I REALLY want Dean Ambrose to get a harder push. I see him as the next Piper.


#286

Frank

Frank

That match that Bray and Reigns had one on one showed that they still need to protect the shit out of Reigns and how limited he is without a tag team to hide his weaknesses as a singles guy.

Also, BOOOOO to the WWE Network dubbing over the old WCW knockoff themes. Jericho should be coming out to knockoff Even Flow and Raven should come out to knockoff Come as You Are.

Damn it, I want knockoff themes!









#287

Frank

Frank

Oh man, I forgot how many of these there were.

I'll spoiler them







#288

Covar

Covar

Zappit said:
I'm not surprised. The fans haven't been into the returning stars too much; the WWE is deathly afraid that the WM main event will get mercilessly jeered throughout the entire thing. They need Punk there, and it's basically the only way to save that match now that Bryan is booked.

They've done very little to build up any younger guys, banishing them to the mid card in favor of aging vets that won't last forever. Kofi should be a headliner. Ziggler absolutely should be a headliner, but because of a few comments, he's been buried deeper than shit, and is likely to be let go when his contract is up. That guy was the second coming of Chris Jericho, and they fucked it up terribly. Cesaro needs to be pushed. Instead we get the same retreads, or extremely bad calls like frigging Ryback, who has fewer moves than an NES fighting game. Even Daniel Bryan isn't getting the big push because his popularity happened on its own, and not by Creative's design; that has legitimately pissed off HHH. They've mismanaged an entire generation of talent, and the poor decisions of an entire decade will come back to haunt them. It's already starting.
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Kofi Kingston doesn't deserve a main event spot. He's even less dynamic a wrestler than John Cena (who strangely is probably hampered in ring more by his top guy status than ability). Dolph Ziggler's head injuries are what really killed his last push. Cesaro was in the main event of the last ppv, got a good amount of time in the Royal Rumble. He's being pushed, just not like a rocket. He was great during his US title run in 2012, but the audience didn't seem to give a shit about him until he Giant Swing'd Santino until he got a reaction. Since debuting he's been booked strong, won a secondary title, put on fantastic matches, and no one in the crowd gave a shit until he started swinging people by the ankles. All the blame there goes to the audience.

As much as I love Daniel Bryan and wanted to see him in the Main Event of WrestleMania, he's still main eventing every week, headlined a string of PPVs this fall, and at least twice since SummerSlam has gotten the entire last hour of Raw devoted to him. If that's not a big push I don't know what is.


#289

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

This image seems to be making its rounds on the 'net. Seems to be a list of objectives by tonight's Chicago crowd.

Personally, I would LOVE to see everyone turn their back on Batista/Orton/HHH/Steph segments.



#290

Covar

Covar

That mission statement is pretty much, "boo the heels, and cheer the faces" :facepalm:


#291

Frank

Frank

They went from a rushed, shitty exact replay of the week previous with Cesaro and Big E and then followed it up with that incredible Wyatt/Shield match? How the fuck can those two segments have been okayed by the same people?


#292

Zappit

Zappit

Well, now it really looks like Punk is gone for good. All the hype, no Punk appearance, trolling the Chicago crowd about Punk. (They knew about the hijacking plan.) That's a hell of a dick move on their part. And, once again, showing they have nothing in the tank, Raw ends with Bryan on his back...again. Can we get a Raw that doesn't end that way? Seriously?

We all know what's going to happen now. The crowd at Wrestlemania is going to raise an absolute shitsorm. I thought it would just be limited to the main event, but not anymore. They're going to drown out everything with chants and turn the whole thing into a disaster. I can't blame them.


#293

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Shitty ending aside and a couple of eh segments, that was honestly one of the better RAWs I've watched in awhile. It's amazing how they took what could've been a disaster show and wound up having the audience eating out of the palm of their hands. Heyman starting the show like he did and seamlessly tying into the current storyline with the Undertaker was absolutely brilliant.


#294

Covar

Covar

So Adam Rose had his "launch party" on NXT this week. It was magnificent.


#295

Covar

Covar

Adam Rose you guys.

Frank you have the Network, did you catch Adam Rose's debut on NXT?

[EDIT] I was so excited about Adam Rose, that I forgot I already mentioned it.


#296

Zappit

Zappit

They're doing it. If Bryan beats HHH at Wrestlemania, he's in the championship match.


#297

Covar

Covar

If Bryan is in the championship match, I'll watch it. Otherwise I'll just turn mania off right before the main event. Some real-time metrics for them.


#298

Zappit

Zappit

I think Bryan winning the belts is the only way they don't get blasted for WM. They gotta realize Bautista can barely go five minutes in a match anymore. He could work as a team guy, but a singles champ? He just doesn't have the stamina.


#299

Frank

Frank

Covar said:
Adam Rose you guys.

Frank you have the Network, did you catch Adam Rose's debut on NXT?

[EDIT] I was so excited about Adam Rose, that I forgot I already mentioned it.
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I let my free trial lapse. After all the issues with NXT Arrival I want to wait and see how they do with Wrestlemania before I plunk down for 6 months. Also, they're apparently negotiating new TV contracts soon and I'm hoping for better Raw and Smackdown representation on the network.


#300

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

http://nickpiers.wordpress.com/2014/03/19/bump-in-the-road-part-6-the-drop/

Just posted the penultimate chapter of Bump in the Road. The next - and final - chapter will be an epilogue.


#301

Covar

Covar

I'm going to a house show tomorrow! :minionhappy:

Raleigh is one of the stops of what they are billing as the Road to WrestleMania tour. Local ads have Cena and the Rhodes brothers vs the Wyatts, and Daniel Bryan vs Corporate Kane on the card. I'm hoping for something close to that. The last house show had a completely different card from what they were advertising (no complaint, got to see Ziggler/Cena in a cage). I know, I know, card subject to change. My greatest fear is that we'll get something like Cena/Orton, or Batista/anything.

Summer Rae is billed from Raleigh. I hope that means we'll get to see her wrestle.


#302

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Covar said:
I'm going to a house show tomorrow! :minionhappy:

Raleigh is one of the stops of what they are billing as the Road to WrestleMania tour. Local ads have Cena and the Rhodes brothers vs the Wyatts, and Daniel Bryan vs Corporate Kane on the card. I'm hoping for something close to that. The last house show had a completely different card from what they were advertising (no complaint, got to see Ziggler/Cena in a cage). I know, I know, card subject to change. My greatest fear is that we'll get something like Cena/Orton, or Batista/anything.

Summer Rae is billed from Raleigh. I hope that means we'll get to see her wrestle.
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Lucky bastard. I haven't been to a live show in a long time. They don't go through the Maritimes very often. Though I did manage to see a live RAW and Smackdown while I was living in Toronto. It was the RAW where Cena and Trish main evented against Santino and Beth Phoenix. And the Smackdown where Jeff Hardy had just become the world champ, taking on Big Show.


#303

Covar

Covar

Sin Cara Azul has been future endevored. People continue not to care, and be satisfied with Hunico.


#304

Frank

Frank

Man, so back in 93, when Jerry the King Lawler was heeling it up in the WWF, at the same time, Vince was sending his guys down to Jerry's Memphis promotion where he played face and they were all heels.

https://legitshook.squarespace.com/...the-vince-mcmahon-in-memphis-saga-part-1-of-3

https://legitshook.squarespace.com/...the-vince-mcmahon-in-memphis-saga-part-2-of-3

https://legitshook.squarespace.com/...the-vince-mcmahon-in-memphis-saga-part-3-of-3

Long, long before the Mr. McMahon character would be born in the Austin Attitude Era stuff, you have heel Vince playing it up for the Memphis crowd.



And Vince wearing Jerry's belt.



And other bizarro land shit like Bret Hart high fiving Giant Gonzalez while heeling it up on Lawler.



It's too bad the tape rights are so mangled and that all this lost shit will likely never land on the network where it would be amazing to take a trip down into some mostly lost wrestling history.


#305

Frank

Frank



#306

Covar

Covar

House show report.
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Byron Saxton was our MC/Ring announcer. Referees were Charles Robinson (li'l Naitch) and Rod Zapata. Before the show started we were invited to tweet and text pictures and things to display on video board. As well as vote on how the Bella Twins and Eva Marie :)fu:) vs Aksana, Alicia Fox, and Laylah would be played out. Our options were a 6-woman tag match or a dance off.

Before the wrestling we're treated to some pre-recorded promos from Damian Sandow and Jack Swagger. Damian was telling us to be polite and stand up and clap for him. Swagger was talking on the phone with Zeb who wasn't showing up at "this town" because Zeb doesn't like "this town" at which points Swagger notices the camera, hangs up, and reminds us all to cheer and to stand up straight and tall. Put our hands over our hearts, and say in a loud clear voice, "WE THE PEOPLE"

First match was a triple threat match for the Intercontinental Championship. Big E Langston vs Kofi Kinston vs the Miz. It was fun watching Big E truck people. Sadly I couldn't get a five chant going. It was a title match at a house show. I'll let you figure out who won.
Rating: :):)

Next up the 6-Diva tag match. Eva Marie is the absolute worst person I've ever seen in the ring, and I watch Botchamania regularly. No believable offense, inability to sell anything, and a botch on the one thing she attempted more complicated than a sholder tackle. The pop the Total Divas got made me sad for humanity. I made sure to boo as loud as I could. Total Divas picked up the win against Aksana the Terminator and her teammates. I forget who got the pinfall. Who cares.
Rating: :fu::fu::fu::fu::fu:

Real Americans in the building! Antonio Cesaro, Jack Swagger, and Zeb Colter come down to the ring, and Zeb picks up a microphone. Not going to lie, these guys are great, and Zeb was possibly the best part of the show. He mentioned how glad he was to be in South Carolina (boo). When corrected by Swagger he says who cares, the Carolinas are the same anyway (BOO). Zeb wonders why the crowd is so irritated as to be booing him, then assumes it's because none of our basketball teams are still in the tournament. Quick aside, this is evidence that Dutch Mantell has worked around the south for decades. If he had named a specific school 2/3 of the crowd would have been cheering him. College Basketball is serious business in this state. One corny joke later and Zeb Colter threatens to send Jack Swagger into the crowd to slap "each and every one of you" across the face if we boo him one more time, then decides other wise because he'd rather have Jack in the ring to slap their opponent instead.
Rating: :trolol::trolol::trolol:

Their opponents are R-Truth and fake geek girl Xavier Woods. I hate both of them It was fun watching the Real Americans beat them. 8 complete rotation on the Giant Swing (and I counted correctly).
Rating: :sohappy::sohappy::sohappy:

Daniel Bryan vs Kane was our main event before the intermission. Bryan went after Kane to fast for me to try and get a Hug it out or Hell No chant going. Decent match, about what you'd expect. Ended in DQ when Ryback came out (in his only appearance) and started attacking Daniel Bryan. Bryan fights back and just when he starts losing...

SIERRA HOTEL INDIA ECHO LIMA DELTA!
Rating: :aaah::aaah::aaah::aaah::aaah:

The Shield run out from the side of the stage to rescue Bryan. We get to see a Superman Punch (looks awesome) a spear, and dives outside the ring by Rollins and Ambrose. Face Shield is truly something great.

Rating: :banana::banana::banana::banana:

And that brings us to the intermission, where I will also be taking an intermission to get some actual work done.


#307

Frank

Frank

House shows are the best. I've been to a few Raws and Smackdowns through my life, but the most fun shows were the smaller house shows.


#308

Frank

Frank

I'm watching the Hall of Fame thing on the Network right now. Jerry Lawler is proof that the ban on shit like blading and such is the best move the WWE ever made. Hopefully making hamburger heads like his and guys like a New Jack a thing of the horrible past. Also, Jerry Lawler sucks. Way to introduce DDP as DDT, you fucking plastic surgeried mong.

Lita's speech was great. Michael Hayes in the video packages is continually embarrassing in that wahjah way. Jake's speech was incredible. Mean Gene Okerland is about 200 years old, has the tiniest amount of old age wavering in his voice now, but he still has the best announcing voice there is. Mr. T's was a rambling mess of a speech. Undertaker not breaking character for the Paul Bearer induction was kind of lame, but zombie Undertaker after so long is also pretty lame. Kane's speech on Paul Bearer's behalf was pretty rad though. Paul Bearer's sons though, genetics man. GENETICS. Scott Hall only got like 2 minutes for his speech, thanks Mr. T. Your 300 year speech was definitely necessary. Carlos Colon's bit was great, even though I am basically unaware of his work. Carlito was funny there too. I like Warrior's speech and him being honest about how stuff like the Rise and Fall of the Ultimate Warrior DVD made him feel was great.

Overall I'm only bummed out about the random little person comedy stuff they decided to cram in for no reason. Such carny nonsense. Oh, and Scott Hall's bumped time for his speech and Jerry Lawler.


#309

Frank

Frank

Watching Mania right now. The only blemish on the show thus far has been the Shield only getting like 26 seconds. No one even got a proper entrance in that match. Real fucking waste. Everything else has been top notch. Even the cluster fuck battle royal had some fantastic spots in it.

Also, the Network has been flawless. They really got their shit together for this show. Good job.

Oh, one other complaint now while watching Cena/Wyatt. JBL, Cole and Lawler all need to be fired. They are each and every one fucking awful.

SPOT OF THE SHOW: The Spanish announcer guy, who used to be Del Rio's manager/announcer and who's name I cannot remember off hand pointing Bray at the new French announce table. I larfed. Loudly.

Real let down of an ending there.


#310

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Lets go AJ!

=clap clap clap clap clap=


#311

Frank

Frank

Undertaker's entrance was longer than the entire Shield segment. Fucking retire already. There isn't a single person in the world that thinks Lesnar has a hope in hell of going over Undertaker. Lesnar has won, what, like a single match in the year plus he's been back.

He looks like one of the guys that raped Edward Norton in American History X now.


#312

Frank

Frank

Foot meet mouth.

Match still sucked.

Man, commentary misses JR. He would have sold the shit out of what happened. ARE THESE FUCKING GUYS ANNOUNCING GOLF?


#313

Zappit

Zappit

Wait. Fucking Brock Lesnar got to beat the streak. He does like, three matches a year, and gets to beat Taker? No torch getting passed? Brock's a part-timer who will probably just quit again in a year. Fuck that. They should have let Punk beat him a year ago. It would have at least had meant something.


#314

Frank

Frank

Zappit said:
Wait. Fucking Brock Lesnar got to beat the streak. He does like, three matches a year, and gets to beat Taker? No torch getting passed? Brock's a part-timer who will probably just quit again in a year. Fuck that. They should have let Punk beat him a year ago. It would have at least had meant something.
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Yup, that was SUPER underwhelming. I like Brock, but he's been booked like absolute shit since his return.[DOUBLEPOST=1396836605,1396836482][/DOUBLEPOST]The divas are in the most unenviable position ever. This could be the greatest match in the history of the world and the crowd would shit on it.[DOUBLEPOST=1396836934][/DOUBLEPOST]That divas match was legit better than Brock/Taker.


#315

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

The entire point of the divas match is to cleanse the palette for the main event and get people to the merch stands, always has been under Vince.


#316

Frank

Frank

HCGLNS said:
The entire point of the divas match is to cleanse the palette for the main event and get people to the merch stands, always has been under Vince.
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Of course, it's the piss break match. That's always totally what they are.[DOUBLEPOST=1396837148,1396837003][/DOUBLEPOST]Man, has anyone other than HHH ever won a match after the band plays their theme live?[DOUBLEPOST=1396837574][/DOUBLEPOST]It's time for one belt.


#317

Covar

Covar

HCGLNS said:
The entire point of the divas match is to cleanse the palette for the main event and get people to the merch stands, always has been under Vince.
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It helps to have cool down matches after really big ones and before the main event. Otherwise you get burnout. See the crowd last year.


#318

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

I don't disagree with the concept at all.

Vince has for years been managing the ebb and flow of stadium sized pay-per views. Ever read up on how intricate their analysis is by the minute for RAW? Crazy.

And the streak ended for the WWE network.


#319

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Brock was the last person who deserved to end the streak. Taker should've retired with it intact. He earned that and it would've been ten times more marketable for future DVDs. The streak was one of the last things in wrestling I still enjoyed.

I think I'm done with wrestling. I honestly, truly think I'm done.


#320

Frank

Frank

ThatNickGuy said:
Brock was the last person who deserved to end the streak. Taker should've retired with it intact. He earned that and it would've been ten times more marketable for future DVDs. The streak was one of the last things in wrestling I still enjoyed.

I think I'm done with wrestling. I honestly, truly think I'm done.
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You go out on your back, that's been like, THE wrestling rule forever. Only jagoffs like Hogan avoid it.

Not related, I don't like how the match ended one damn bit, but I really liked the rest of Bray/Cena. WWE has some awesome camera work sometimes.



BACK LIVE:

HA HA, fuck you Spanish announce table.

Love, French Announce Table.


#321

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Frank said:
You go out on your back, that's been like, THE wrestling rule forever. Only jagoffs like Hogan avoid it.
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Don't care. There has never been a precedent like this. Taker has put over plenty before. After decades of being the consistently marketable guy for WWE, he deserved to retire with the streak intact.


#322

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

ThatNickGuy said:
Don't care. There has never been a precedent like this. Taker has put over plenty before. After decades of being the consistently marketable guy for WWE, he deserved to retire with the streak intact.
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That would be the most unprofessional thing he has ever done and completely against his nature.

He put the company first through out his career and did so tonight.

The streak ends on the first WM on the WWE Network. It's not about what is best for himself or Brock, he did a massive favour for the WWE itself.


#323

Frank

Frank

Does Daniel Bryan have vitiligo?

That was a pretty fuckin' good Wrestlemania overall. Brock/Taker was a stinker, but was probably all that Taker was capable of at this point and the Shield and Wyatt got shafted (at least Bray and Cena put on an awesome show before) but it was definitely the best show in quite a few years.


#324

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

HCGLNS said:
That would be the most unprofessional thing he has ever done and completely against his nature.

He put the company first through out his career and did so tonight.

The streak ends on the first WM on the WWE Network. It's not about what is best for himself or Brock, he did a massive favour for the WWE itself.
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Don't care. I'm done.


#325

Frank

Frank

That main event was fucking awesome.


#326

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

I'm so glad I got the WWE Network 10 minutes before the show, that was pretty cool. And the archive seems to work really damn well / easy. I'm gonna watch some WCW shit with Raven vs DDP now


#327

Frank

Frank

I hope Cesaro carries that trophy around for months.


#328

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Also, I don't know who any of these people* are, but the prevailing thought I had was that Bray Wyatt should have ended Undertaker's streak next year


*anyone that showed up in the last 6 years or so


#329

Frank

Frank

I really like Bray and I hope he doesn't get the treatment that all of Cena's usual monsters of the month get after he heroically beats the odds and overcomes them. Bray comes off to me as what the Undertaker wanted to be after he shed the silent zombie thing, only Undertaker was never great live on the mic. Bray seems to be excellent with his crowd work.


#330

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Frank said:
I hope Cesaro carries that trophy around for months.
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I was hoping that the winner would get pictures taken with the trophy and then get a custom ring. The kicker, the ring size would be Andre's. They could wear it as a bracelet or on a chain.


#331

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Where is Chris Jericho?


#332

Frank

Frank

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Where is Chris Jericho?
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All but retired.


#333

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Frank said:
All but retired.
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aw nuts, maybe I'll watch his Wrestlemania match against HBK


#334

Frank

Frank

I'll say this right now about the streak ending, if Brock is booked as the rampaging monster from now on and becomes the absolute monster heel he should have been booked as since coming back from UFC, then the streak ending there is worth it. If not, then there was no point to that.

Also, apparently Taker was hurt really badly early on, which explains the rest of the match. Still taking a bunch of F5s after being nigh crippled is madness. Dude definitely was a wrestler, through and through.

Billy Gunn also got hurt in his minute long squash.


#335

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Frank said:
I'll say this right now about the streak ending, if Brock is booked as the rampaging monster from now on and becomes the absolute monster heel he should have been booked as since coming back from UFC, then the streak ending there is worth it. If not, then there was no point to that.

Also, apparently Taker was hurt really badly early on, which explains the rest of the match. Still taking a bunch of F5s after being nigh crippled is madness. Dude definitely was a wrestler, through and through.

Billy Gunn also got hurt in his minute long squash.
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Consider this, on Sunday morning everyone "knew" that the streak was safe and that the YES movement would win. It was startling predictable. No point in watching really.

Streak ends. Now the most secure thing in the history of the WWE is gone, nothing is sure anymore.

Now there is total suspense for the main event. If the streak can end, certainly DB can lose.

Taker did several things last night;

1. Made WM30 a huge success for the WWE.
2. Gave a massive boost to Daniel Bryan.
3. Set the WWE programming free.


#336

Covar

Covar

Charlie Don't Surf said:
I'm so glad I got the WWE Network 10 minutes before the show, that was pretty cool. And the archive seems to work really damn well / easy. I'm gonna watch some WCW shit with Raven vs DDP now
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Glad you enjoyed it. If you want to check out other things while you have the Network I can't recommend NXT enough (seriously look at half my previous posts in this thread). It's their developmental show, and the best weekly wrestling show out there.

WrestleMania XXX has been the best mania since I got back into it. That's not saying much (27-29 were awful except for a few bright spots), but I'm happy for it.

I loved the Shield match, as short as it was. It gave me pretty much what I wanted to see, and the Shield got to look like the quick, strong, dominate team that they are. Bray/Cena would have been better if there was longer build up. Good in ring storytelling I thought, but it felt compressed. Maybe if Cena's ruthless aggression side had been showing up before WrestleMania it would have worked better. The ending would have been more impactful for sure. I hope they're not done with this, because there's more potential to the story.

Cesaro was awesome, both in the pre-show tag match and the Battle Royal. Seeing his split from Zeb Colter and Jack Swagger made his winning later even better. I just worry for the Tag division. They were starting to get some good momentum and depth in the roster, and this year they've split up their two best heel teams.

Bryan winning great. words hard, joy so much.

I'm not entirely convinced that Taker losing was planned by anyone. It seemed to catch everyone of guard. No build up, no commentary really, and no replay. Even Brock Lesnar's herald was surprised.


#337

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Covar said:
I'm not entirely convinced that Taker losing was planned by anyone. It seemed to catch everyone of guard. No build up, no commentary really, and no replay. Even Brock Lesnar's herald was surprised.
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How else do you react to the unspeakably unexpected.


#338

Covar

Covar

HCGLNS said:
How else do you react to the unspeakably unexpected.
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like this?


#339

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

They got it absolutely right. The delayed call for the winner, the dramatic pauses, the shock of Heyman and the crowd was perfect.

Confusion -> Disbelief -> Realization -> Shock


#340

Covar

Covar

I have a love/hate relationship with what they did. On one hand I hate that it was Lesnar, on the other hand the best part of wrestling is when they blur the lines of reality and, to quote Jake Roberts, "fuck with your emotions."


#341

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

It had to be somebody like Lesnar. He has the legitimate believable background and the legacy of beating the streak does nothing for him. Put that legacy on anyone else and it can ruin their career. Imagine doing the greatest accomplishment in wrestling history and trying to follow it up.


#342

Frank

Frank

HCGLNS said:
It had to be somebody like Lesnar. He has the legitimate believable background and the legacy of beating the streak does nothing for him. Put that legacy on anyone else and it can ruin their career. Imagine doing the greatest accomplishment in wrestling history and trying to follow it up.
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That's one reason I thought Lesnar was a good choice. The pressure of being the streak beater would wreck almost all of the guys on the roster, except maybe Cena.


#343

Covar

Covar

HCGLNS said:
It had to be somebody like Lesnar. He has the legitimate believable background and the legacy of beating the streak does nothing for him. Put that legacy on anyone else and it can ruin their career. Imagine doing the greatest accomplishment in wrestling history and trying to follow it up.
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Never really thought of it like that, good point.


#344

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Also,

Cesaro 1-0


#345

Frank

Frank

I may currently be the biggest Cesaro mark ever.[DOUBLEPOST=1396882783,1396882472][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, I've read some bitching about them online today and yesterday about Kofi's non-elimination spots in battle royals. Fuck off. Those are always awesome. This one was pretty insane too, the coordination to pull that off was nuts. I almost think that those spots are single handedly keeping him employed.


#346

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Also - that Batista Bomb / RKO through the Announcer's Table


#347

Frank

Frank

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Also - that Batista Bomb / RKO through the Announcer's Table
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I'm glad Randy Orton wasn't fuckin' paralyzed man...ugh. That was grisly.






Also, that fantastic God damn video package for Trips/Dbry. Seriously, this is what the WWE does best.



#348

Covar

Covar

Did you see the AJ promo? It's from SmackDown, but it's fantastic, and a real shame they didn't show it during the two hours they had to fill for their pre-show



#349

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

That is some sick shit right there. Flawless wrestlemania season so far.

RAW tonight is going to be wild.


#350

Covar

Covar

Best RAW of the year candidate almost certainly. I look forward to it more than WrestleMania. Unfortunately I cut my cable this year :(


#351

Covar

Covar

Some context for why the picture below is awesome



#352

Necronic

Necronic

It's really weird when you realize that a lot of these guys have serious creds in other realms, like Brock Lesner and Mark Henry. Mark Henry has a truly amazing background.


#353

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Hmmm, WWE releases Network subscription numbers and Wall Street runs away.


#354

Covar

Covar

That's bizarre, the subscriber numbers came out today, and they're good. 667,287 after 2 months.

For comparrison that's more than the domestic buyrate of WrestleMania 29 and more than each of the total buy rates of every other PPV in 2013. Now of course the WrestleMania XXX buyrate, and all the other PPVs are going to take a nosedive, that's expected.


#355

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

The number expected for profit and maintaining revenue is 1 million subscribers. So Wallstreet balked, which is weird because 1 million is not a number they will reach domestically.


#356

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Wall Street has always been funky that way.


#357

Frank

Frank

HCGLNS said:
The number expected for profit and maintaining revenue is 1 million subscribers. So Wallstreet balked, which is weird because 1 million is not a number they will reach domestically.
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Their projections were 1 million by the end of 2014, so they're well on their way. It's weird.

Not all of those subs though are domestic. I know mine isn't for example. I just already use VPN for American Netflix, and it works great for the Network.


#358

Zappit

Zappit

Wall Street wants large, immediate layoffs or they shit bricks and bail.


#359

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

They're more fickle than wrestling fans!


#360

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

I just watched the two world title matches from Wrestlemania 20. I hope Daniel Bryan doesn't kill his wife and kid and make it awkward 10 years later.


#361

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Just finished watching tonight's RAW live and holy crap am I ever glad I re-thought my decision not to watch wrestling anymore. That was the best RAW in at least a decade. Seriously, they fired on all cylinders tonight and I'm actually legit excited to see what they have in store for the next few months.

(As for what I said earlier, I had had a really bad day and was already feeling over-emotional from things unrelated to wrestling, so overreacted. Surprise surprise, I know.)


#362

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

10 AJ :(
20 Paige :)
30 Goto 10


#363

Frank

Frank

Man, it's actually cool that Ultimate Warrior and Vince have buried the hatchet. It's probably good for....

http://www.wwe.com/inside/ultimate-warrior-passes-away-26223975



Well, alright then. That's actually pretty heartbreaking, especially after his HoF speech about how the most important thing in the world to him are his daughters. I got suicide vibes and I hope it isn't true.


#364

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

If you re-listen to his speech on RAW, it's a little haunting, now.

There's a theory going around that he was terminally sick and buried the hatched for one to mend old bridges and to give his family a little bit of financial stability once he's gone. And then did himself in rather than wait and suffer through it.

Whether that's true, it might make sense with how everything played out recently.


#365

Covar

Covar

TMZ is reporting that he collapsed on his way to the car to go out with his wife.

In happier news I watched Monday's Raw last night. It was great.


#366

Covar

Covar

Raw was really great this week. Not just for the post-mania crowd.

PAIGE!!!!!!!


#367

Covar

Covar

It's Thursday and this is still real thing.
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Also I have no idea what part of the taping cycle of NXT we're on (I think they just shot a month before WrestleMania), but I can't wait for NXT tonight.


#368

Frank

Frank

Make one belt God damn it.


#369

Covar

Covar

Frank said:
Make one belt God damn it.
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I'm sure they will once sales of the new WWE title slow down. Considering how recent it is, I'm still kind of surprised they unified the titles. Out of curiosity because I wasn't watching at the time, how long did it take to get the unified title the last time they merged belts?


#370

Frank

Frank

Covar said:
I'm sure they will once sales of the new WWE title slow down. Considering how recent it is, I'm still kind of surprised they unified the titles. Out of curiosity because I wasn't watching at the time, how long did it take to get the unified title the last time they merged belts?
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Jericho carried around both titles until Triple H won it from him and got a single belt.


#371

Zappit

Zappit

The HHH/DB feud does have the possibility of Hunter breaking up the belts as a dick move to Bryan.


#372

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

What are some good WWE PPVs or matches from the last.... I dunno, 6-8 years? I think the last match I saw before Wrestlemania 30 that I remember distinctly was Randy Orton vs Mick Foley when they did the spear on burning table spot.[DOUBLEPOST=1397159583,1397159543][/DOUBLEPOST]
Charlie Don't Surf said:
What are some good WWE PPVs or matches from the last.... I dunno, 6-8 years? I think the last match I saw before Wrestlemania 30 that I remember distinctly was Randy Orton vs Mick Foley when they did the spear on burning table spot.
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just looked up what PPV that was, THAT WAS 10 YEARS AGO FUCK


#373

Covar

Covar

SummerSlam 2013. The start of the current Daniel Bryan storyline. The main event is a straight match between Daniel Bryan and John Cena. It's a great match and a reminder of just how good John Cena is when he's on top of his game and not phoning it in.[DOUBLEPOST=1397162057,1397161491][/DOUBLEPOST]Extreme Rules 2012. The cards pretty iffy, but this is the PPV right after WrestleMania 28, where Daniel Bryan lost his World Heavyweight Championship to Shemus in 18 seconds. Their rematch is a 2 out of 3 falls match that almost makes up for the joke loss at mania. Also a great example of how great a wrestler Shemus can be.

Money in the Bank. I don't think I've ever seen a bad card on this PPV, but I've never really watched them after the fact. If you're not familiar with it, the Money in the Bank Ladder match is like a normal match, but with 6-8 participants, and instead of hanging a belt from the rafters they hang a briefcase. Inside the briefcase is a contract, good for one championship match at any time in the next year. Any. Time.


#374

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Wait, back up the truck. Daniel Bryan, the yes dude, had won the world title before? what the fuck


#375

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Wait, back up the truck. Daniel Bryan, the yes dude, had won the world title before? what the fuck
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Twice, I believe. Once, he had a short run when he was a heel (and doing the Yes thing that pissed before off before it took off) and then I think he had it for like a hiccup last year. It's really extraordinary to see how over he slowly became. It kind of exploded two years ago when he lost the world title to Sheamus in 18 seconds. SO many angry fans became very vocal for him. That's where the whole show-hijacking thing started to grow.[DOUBLEPOST=1397163889,1397163798][/DOUBLEPOST]Also, you should totally check out some NXT shows because it's been consistently the best show in the past year or so. Three matches to look out for: Cesaro vs Sami Zayne (twice; the two have crazy good chemistry) and Cesaro vs. William Regal, which was my personal favourite match from last year.


#376

Frank

Frank

It also has commentary that isn't awful.


#377

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

What is NXT? Is it like Tough Enough?


#378

Covar

Covar

Worth noting that both were when there were two titles, and his World Heavyweight Champion heel run was when the belt was serving the same role as the Intercontinental Title. His second time as a champion lasted less than 10 minutes (no exaggeration).[DOUBLEPOST=1397166108,1397165826][/DOUBLEPOST]
Charlie Don't Surf said:
What is NXT? Is it like Tough Enough?
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It's more like MiLB. It's their developmental system, where they basically train new wrestlers, and teach those from the indies how to wrestle in the WWE style. They put on a 1 hour weekly show with the best talent in the developmental system and it's magnificent. They're not afraid to experiment with gimmicks, strong women's wrestling, the crowd is always crazy and energetic, and the announcers put over the talent. Check out NXT Arrival. It's their 2 hour special that they did the first week of the WWE Network. It's pretty much everything great about the show, and serves to introduce it people who hadn't been watching it on Hulu Plus.


#379

Frank

Frank

Charlie Don't Surf said:
What is NXT? Is it like Tough Enough?
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It's basically WWE minor leagues.


#380

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Charlie Don't Surf said:
What is NXT? Is it like Tough Enough?
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Sort of. It's basically their developmental territory. They used to have one in Florida, but it was only aired on local channels (and I think on WWE.com). Not even close to advertised as this. They moved into a giant training facility at a Florida university, now, and it's got a bigger production team. Triple H runs the show primarily, basically doing what Vince does for WWE as far as having the final say on storylines and promos.

It's where they have all the up and coming guys, testing out characters before moving them up to the big time. But the production value is great for a smaller setting, the crowd is always into the show, and the storylines just seem more focused.


#381

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

That sounds awesome. All of NXT is on WWE Network now too? Or still on Hulu Plus?


#382

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Charlie Don't Surf said:
That sounds awesome. All of NXT is on WWE Network now too? Or still on Hulu Plus?
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Hulu Plus for sure. I think some shows are on the Network, but likely not all. Almost certain Arrival is, at least, which is definitely your best bet to get a feel for it.


#383

Frank

Frank

The Network only has the last 2 months of shows on it.


#384

HCGLNS

HCGLNS



#385

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Yeeeeaaah.....

2003 Cro Cop was a terrifying human being.


#386

Frank

Frank

Dos Caras is also known today as Mexico's greatest export, Alberto Del Rio.

He also says that he was instructed to lose the match after the headkick and that it was fixed as hell.

Unfortunately a common story out of Pride.


#387

SpecialKO

SpecialKO

Frank said:
Unfortunately a common story out of Pride.
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True dat.

That said, it does make you wonder why. Cro Cop was already known at that point for almost fucking decapitating people with that kick.


#388

Frank

Frank

If you have the network, you should check out the Daniel Bryan Journey to Wrestlemania thing. It's really good and mostly out of kayfabe.

http://network.wwe.com/video/v31971583


#389

Covar

Covar

I might check it out tonight then, since I can't watch Raw until tomorrow.


#390

Frank

Frank

I hope that Daniel Bryan isn't hobbled with a Kane midcard feud. That's some Chris Benoit shit right there.

Also, I'm glad that Cesaro dropped the Real Americans theme, but...you know, they probably should have given him something other than silence. And, I love Paul Heyman. He's...like, the best. But what is he doing with Cesaro? That pair-up makes no sense other than to keep Heyman on TV while Brock is gone for a while.


#391

Zappit

Zappit

Cesaro gets the IC belt, holds it until about the time Brock comes back, and Cesaro drops the belt, with Heyman dropping Cesaro.

The ol' Curtis Axel treatment.


#392

Frank

Frank

Zappit said:
Cesaro gets the IC belt, holds it until about the time Brock comes back, and Cesaro drops the belt, with Heyman dropping Cesaro.

The ol' Curtis Axel treatment.
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That would be tragic, but I doubt it's the same. Axel was never over.

They should just go back to his old Miracle theme. It's about the most Swiss thing ever in that it switches between Swiss German and French.


#393

Covar

Covar

I still have to check out Raw this week, but it will have to wait because Mick Foley is going to be at our local comedy club tonight, right here in Raleigh NC, and I got tickets. I guess you could say I'm going to...have a nice day. :csi:

I'm so freaking excited. Mick Foley was my hands down favorite wrestler growing up, both the reason I wanted to become a wrestler and decided against it. I always wanted to see him live, and was sad I never got the chance.


#394

Frank

Frank

I really like Paige but the Paige Turner looks shitty. Her submission finisher, which I do not know the name of, on the other hand is fucking awesome looking. Looking it up, it's called a scorpion crosslock.

It's great!



In an age of shitty looking submissions (John Cena, looking at you), it's nice to see one that actually looks uncomfortable.


#395

Covar

Covar

So Mick Foley's Hardcore Legend show is a lot of fun. If he comes by your area I highly recommend going to see him. Matt Hardy and Shane Helms were in attendance, and so Mick Foley brought them on stage with him towards the end, when he did a Q&A. Best of all aside from getting my picture with Mick, was finally getting a Cactus Jack shirt.

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Also can we talk about how great it is that we're having a tournament to determine the new #1 contender for the Intercontinental Championship? Wrestling Tournaments are probably my second favorite angle in wrestling ( 1. Royal Rumble, 2. Tournaments, 3. Kurt), and I'm glad that they're using one to put focus back on the Intercontinental Title. That strap has been neglected more than the US Championship, and only then because Ambrose just wears it and never competes with it. Since I'll probably never see King of the Ring again, at least we've got this.


#396

Covar

Covar



:fu:


#397

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Covar said:


:fu:
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Actually that spot and her work with Layla was rather good for her talent level.



#398

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Covar said:


:fu:
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Oh! Oh, woe is me! I have been struck!


#399

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Layla kicked her in the head 1 second before the gif begins.


#400

Covar

Covar

I thought this was a pretty good summary of wrestling in general, not just live shows.


#401

Covar

Covar



That'll do Internet. That'll do.


#402

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Ladies and Gentlemen, I'm afraid I've got some bad news!


#403

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Is it that Extreme Rules was mostly terrible, except for the 6-man and (surprisingly) the midget match?


#404

Frank

Frank

Man, D-Bry getting the Benoit treatment to a T.

Just getting around to watching the show now (4 am) and man, I still, just...don't like Cesaro's entrance. It's bad enough Paul Heyman (who is awesome) still talks mostly about Brock. Is Cesaro supposed to be a heel?


#405

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Did not like the forklift spot. Too much time for too little pay off.

Loved the cage match, women's and minis.

Poor Big E, guy needs Mic skills or a manager.


#406

Frank

Frank

Up to the cage match now. Am I the only one that hates the whole ref opening the door for you shit?

The crowd fucking hates this match. It's sucking any enjoyment out of it.[DOUBLEPOST=1399293623,1399293405][/DOUBLEPOST]Jesus, the Rowan piggy backing Cena back into the cage bit....this is a bad comedy match now.[DOUBLEPOST=1399293805][/DOUBLEPOST]This has made the whole Wyatt family look like ineffectual goobers.[DOUBLEPOST=1399294025][/DOUBLEPOST]OHHHHHHH, the ending....THIS GOT WORSE![DOUBLEPOST=1399294060][/DOUBLEPOST]TERRIBLE!!![DOUBLEPOST=1399294496][/DOUBLEPOST]Cole just called Tamina the son of Jimmy Supafly Snuka.

GOOD JOB COLE!


#407

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Just frame the match from the perspective of turning Cena heel.


#408

Frank

Frank

HCGLNS said:
Just frame the match from the perspective of turning Cena heel.
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Never happen! Just like the streak ending!


#409

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

HCGLNS said:
Just frame the match from the perspective of turning Cena heel.
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It won't happen. It'll never happen as long as he's still their top merchandise seller and doing all the charities. People need to realize that.


#410

Frank

Frank

AHH, I just love Paige's submission finisher. It looks so great.[DOUBLEPOST=1399295131,1399295020][/DOUBLEPOST]

Little Johnny's (Wyatt?) life goalposts seemed to have moved.

This is some TNA/Ultimate Warrior in the mirror/Randy Orton hallucinating level terrible shit.


#411

Covar

Covar

I'm glad I watched Extreme Rules, and I'm very glad that I have the Network and didn't need to pay $50 to watch it. The show was about what I expected from a PPV that's not one of the big 4.[DOUBLEPOST=1399298760,1399298304][/DOUBLEPOST]
ThatNickGuy said:
It won't happen. It'll never happen as long as he's still their top merchandise seller and doing all the charities. People need to realize that.
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This ^

Also people insisting he needs to turn heel are being to narrow minded (and wanting to validate their own feelings on Cena). He's already a heel to everyone that want's to see him "turn heel" so I'm not sure what him suddenly cheating would do other than disappoint a lot of kids who buy his stuff.

Really he just needs to adjust the character to become more dynamic, or maybe in line with reality. He's pretty much Superman, so maybe stop running the overcome the impossible odds story line again and again. Have him be more cocky. He's been neigh unstoppable for years, older fans don't buy that he's going to lose so why should he buy it?


#412

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Batista looks like he really enjoyed himself tonight.



#413

Covar

Covar



#414

Frank

Frank

Covar said:
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Welp, tears.


#415

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Oh god, I'm bawling my eyes out here. What a sweet and yet saddening video.


#416

ncts_dodge_man

ncts_dodge_man

At least WWE does things like that. Probably was the best highlight of Connor's short life.


#417

Covar

Covar

We get another NXT special coming up soon! :minionhappy:

Also anyone here Chikara fans? I just ordered the iPPV they're having on May 25th and was wondering if anyone else was going to watch it. If you're not familiar with Chikara they're a Lucha style promotion that's basically a living wrestling comic book. Last year they had a storyline where the company was bought out by a corporation and promptly shut down (the company went dark last June). Earlier this year it was uncovered that it was a ploy by all their villains to destroy the promotion. So now Chikara is fighting back.


#418

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Covar said:
We get another NXT special coming up soon! :minionhappy:

Also anyone here Chikara fans? I just ordered the iPPV they're having on May 25th and was wondering if anyone else was going to watch it. If you're not familiar with Chikara they're a Lucha style promotion that's basically a living wrestling comic book. Last year they had a storyline where the company was bought out by a corporation and promptly shut down (the company went dark last June). Earlier this year it was uncovered that it was a ploy by all their villains to destroy the promotion. So now Chikara is fighting back.
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Some of its closing actually had some reality to it. Owner Mike Quackenbush had divorced recently. Unfortunately, his wife was also a co-owner of the fed. So I imagine it took them this long to things settled in terms of rights.


#419

Covar

Covar

I'm watching the iPPV now. A large and very enthusiastic crowd, and good wrestling. Especially by the Indy standards. 3 matches in, only one superkick and no finisher-2 count exchanges.

NXT Takeover is tomorrow and Payback is Sunday. Guess which one I'm more excited for?

Both have pretty lousy cards, but I'm looking forward to seeing Sami Zayn and Tyler Breeze wrestle each other, and the NXT crowd should be great as usual. Payback will have Cesaro vs. Shemus which could be match of the night depending on which Shemus shows up.


#420

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

STONE COLD! STONE COLD! STONE COLD!



#421

Covar

Covar

Alicia Fox going nuts has been the highlight each show these last couple of weeks.


#422

Frank

Frank

Covar said:
I'm watching the iPPV now. A large and very enthusiastic crowd, and good wrestling. Especially by the Indy standards. 3 matches in, only one superkick and no finisher-2 count exchanges.

NXT Takeover is tomorrow and Payback is Sunday. Guess which one I'm more excited for?

Both have pretty lousy cards, but I'm looking forward to seeing Sami Zayn and Tyler Breeze wrestle each other, and the NXT crowd should be great as usual. Payback will have Cesaro vs. Shemus which could be match of the night depending on which Shemus shows up.
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Man, I wish WWE had been more upfront about how unwatchable it would become after Wrestlemania. They suckered me into 6 months of the network.


#423

Covar

Covar

It's not like this is anything new though. Extreme Rules and May PPV are always lackluster outside of 1 or 2 matches each. Don't worry, Money in the Bank and Summerslam are coming up next.


#424

Frank

Frank

Man, having kids (or nieces in Natalya's case) of famous wrestlers come out to basically remixes of their father's themes is a little played out. Curtis Axel, Natalya, Charlotte and Ted Dibiase Jr (who started out coming out to the Million Dollar Man's theme exactly). Come on guys.


#425

Covar

Covar

I love NXT so much.


#426

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

HCGLNS said:
STONE COLD! STONE COLD! STONE COLD!

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I'm confused... Stone Cold is a lot hotter than I remember.


#427

Covar

Covar

This Fallout has been great... And here's Natalya. Oh well.


#428

Covar

Covar

So when I wished for new storylines to start following Payback, I never meant for that to happen. :cry: I just wanted to see people wrestling new opponents. :cry:


#429

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

It was shocking. And when you look at it analytically beautiful.


#430

HCGLNS

HCGLNS



Now that is a promo.


#431

Covar

Covar

Now hold on a minute playa...

Teddy Long and 7 other Superstars future endevored


#432

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

No not Aksana! !


#433

Zappit

Zappit

Complete, updated list.

  • JTG (just added)
  • Drew McIntyre
  • Jinder Mahal
  • Aksana
  • Curt Hawkins
  • Theodore Long
  • Camacho
  • Brodus Clay
  • Evan Bourne
  • Yoshi Tatsu
  • Marc Harris (referee)
3MB is officially dead. Can't be too long before Slater and Hornswaggle get the boot, too.

And honestly, I'm surprised JTG lasted as long as he did.

Edit: Hmm. Just saw this over at Wrestling Inc. it's an older article, but maybe it's another reason Ziggler got buried.

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news...ot-with-dolph-ziggler-partially-to-blame-for/


#434

Covar

Covar

Slater's pretty talented though, and gets pretty good crowd reactions, 3MB was all him.


#435

HCGLNS

HCGLNS



#436

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Slater's back to being a one man band, bay-bee!!

Honestly, this was a long time coming. WWE used to do roster spring cleanings every year around this time (not long after a WrestleMania).

On the surface, it sucks for the guys that get released but most see solid success on the indies. They're a big name after working the big time, even the lowly job guys.

Plus, this means room for new, fresh faces. Which WWE could really use.


#437

Zappit

Zappit

This all comes, like, just days after the WWE said they changed their policy to just let contracts run out, and wouldn't just cut people.


#438

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

They can't even keep a promise to keep a solid tag team division running. This doesn't surprise me.


#439

Frank

Frank

Zappit said:
Complete, updated list.

  • JTG (just added)
  • Drew McIntyre
  • Jinder Mahal
  • Aksana
  • Curt Hawkins
  • Theodore Long
  • Camacho
  • Brodus Clay
  • Evan Bourne
  • Yoshi Tatsu
  • Marc Harris (referee)
3MB is officially dead. Can't be too long before Slater and Hornswaggle get the boot, too.

And honestly, I'm surprised JTG lasted as long as he did.

Edit: Hmm. Just saw this over at Wrestling Inc. it's an older article, but maybe it's another reason Ziggler got buried.

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news...ot-with-dolph-ziggler-partially-to-blame-for/
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Hornswaggle is about as safe as anyone on the roster could possibly be. Vince thinks he's fucking hilarious.


#440

Zappit

Zappit

@ThatNickGuy - Hey! Lookie here!

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/06/15/create-a-wwe-character-win-a-trip-to-summerslam

If you've got any mic skills, you could make it happen, bud.


#441

Frank

Frank

Kee-rist.



#442

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Rule 34 applies my good sir.


#443

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy



#444

Covar

Covar

Mmm... Lana.


#445

Frank

Frank

Jeff Hardy isn't a young man and he's going to be a cripple.

http://www.sescoops.com/video-jeff-hardy-swanton-onto-ring-steps-tnanyc/


#446

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Dear WWE,

Do more RAWs like that. That was awesome.

Sincerely,
Me

Seriously, we had some surprise returns, some great starts to new stories, Kofi and Dolph both winning their respective singles matches (!!!!!), and the whole RAW just flew by. Whatever they did tonight, I want more of it.


#447

Frank

Frank

The old Wyatt NXT theme was a thing of beauty not made better by the addition of lyrics.



This may have been the best and most fitting wrestler theme going.

Also, I like Cody Rhode's Stardust theme. As fucking silly as the gimmick is, Cody Rhodes is fucking awesome doing it. That guy can make any shitty gimmick (he got a fucking mustache over!) they throw at him work. The only time he falters is playing plain Cody Rhodes. The guy is a fantastic talent.



On the topic of new themes, did no one notice that Ambrose's new theme is basically a remix of Chris Benoit's old theme?





Cesaro's current theme is still hot garbage and doesn't suit him one bit.



Seth Rollin's new theme is alright, but I hate the drop and it sounds WAAAAAAAY too much like the Ascension's theme and they're boring as hell. I probably wouldn't dislike Ascension so much if they didn't look like rat people and they're not fucking awesome to watch like Adrian Neville (who is also a rat person).





#448

Covar

Covar

WWE has signed Japanese star KENTA, who will be headed to NXT. If the hype about him is true, expect him to move onto the main roster quicker than most. Apparently he is the man responsible for Punk's GTS and Bryan's flying knee (how is this not already called the "Knee Plus") finishes.


#449

Zappit

Zappit

Covar said:
WWE has signed Japanese star KENTA, who will be headed to NXT. If the hype about him is true, expect him to move onto the main roster quicker than most. Apparently he is the man responsible for Punk's GTS and Bryan's flying knee (how is this not already called the "Knee Plus") finishes.
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It is called the Knee Plus already.

Wrestling Inc's announcement of the signing had a video of a Kenta/Brian Danielson match, which was quite good. (And yes, it is a young Daniel Bryan.)


#450

Covar

Covar

Is it officially? I know that's what a lot of people have been calling it, but I don't recall ever hearing one of the curmudgeons calling it that.

I tried watching a Kenta/Bryan Danielson match from 2008, maybe it was the same one? It was pretty good, but the silent Japanese crowd was killing me. I know it's just how they are over there, but man it made me realize how much a crowd can affect my opinion on a wrestling match.


#451

Frank

Frank

They've never referred to it as Knee Plus anywhere but once in one of those app interviews.

The commentators have never called it that.


#452

Zappit

Zappit

I could have sworn I heard Cole call it the Knee Plus on the air once or twice.


#453

Frank

Frank

So, now that KENTA is in WWE (well, NXT), I can't wait to see what kind of hideously racist gimmick they'll give to one of the world's best wrestlers.


#454

Zappit

Zappit

Daniel Bryan is a submission master, and don't anybody say otherwise.

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news...niel-bryan-detaining-burglar-submission-move/

The burglar he caught sure isn't going to dispute it. Stuck in a rear naked chokehold for five minutes. That ain't fun.


#455

Covar

Covar

He only caught one. I'll give him a solid B+ for the effort.


#456

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Zappit said:
Daniel Bryan is a submission master, and don't anybody say otherwise.

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news...niel-bryan-detaining-burglar-submission-move/

The burglar he caught sure isn't going to dispute it. Stuck in a rear naked chokehold for five minutes. That ain't fun.
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Local police awarded him a Medal of Valour. But then Triple H striped Bryan of it and gave it to Orton, saying it was best for business.


#457

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

SummerSlam card-ish??

WWE Title Brock vs Cena
IC Title The Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler vs. Bo Dallas
Divas Title AJ Lee vs Paige
Tag Titles Usos vs Wyatts again?? Another gimmick match?
Bray Wyatt vs Chris Jericho
Dean Ambrose vs Seth Rollins
Reigns vs Orton or Kane ?

-Maybe a payoff to Fandango vs Layla/Summer ?
-KENTA ????
-a StarDust angle?!
- Steph McMahon and the Bellas might talk to each other

and I'm probably forgetting something. Rusev and Cesaro might be there? I love both of them. Adam Rose could have a fun pre-show match! Is it just me or is this shaping up to be possibly better than Wrestlemania?!?!


#458

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

From what I'm hearing on the rumour mill, Sheamus and Miz are wrestling and they're going to unite the IC and US titles.

Of course, that uniting rumour's been going since around Rumble time, so take that with a grain of salt.


#459

Covar

Covar

I'd actually like that if they waited until Night of Champions, actually make that PPV matter somewhat.

Rumor is a new championship belt after Summerslam to go along with the switch over to the Network logo as the main company logo.

If we get a competitive back and forth match between Lesnar and Cena I'll be thrilled. I might be the only person who didn't like the entirety of their No Mercy match from a couple of years ago. I'm not a fan of one sided 20 minute beat downs. It might be why the only Brock Lesnar match I've enjoyed since he came back was his match with Punk.


#460

Frank

Frank

It's funny how often they have Brock be the giver of the one sided beatdown considering that he's an incredibly seller. He can make anyone's offense look like a million bucks.


#461

Covar

Covar

Frank said:
It's funny how often they have Brock be the giver of the one sided beatdown considering that he's an incredibly seller. He can make anyone's offense look like a million bucks.
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And still look like a complete monster, while building up his opponent. Losing can make a wrestler look better as long as the match is back and forth. I'm pretty sure I've written about this on here before, but John Cena losing to Kurt Angle certainly didn't hurt him getting over.



In unrelated news Spike TV has elected to not renew their contract with TNA. Impact Wrestling is going off the air in October.


#462

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

RIP TNA


#463

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

They've been slowly dying for awhile now. This is hardly surprising. Hell, let's be honest. They've been pretty much killing themselves with bad decision after bad decision.


#464

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

ThatNickGuy said:
From what I'm hearing on the rumour mill, Sheamus and Miz are wrestling and they're going to unite the IC and US titles.

Of course, that uniting rumour's been going since around Rumble time, so take that with a grain of salt.
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No, they are looking to keep two mid titles and divide them amongst good guys and bad guys, so that each will have a chance to grow.


#465

Zappit

Zappit

Frank said:
It's funny how often they have Brock be the giver of the one sided beatdown considering that he's an incredibly seller. He can make anyone's offense look like a million bucks.
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He's one of the few who can actually give himself a piledriver.

Rumor has it TNA is not getting it's contract renewed with Spike TV is because Spike is negotiating to buy TNA, going the Turner-WCW route, and grabbing it cheap at a low point with plans to relaunch.


#466

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/139...landmark-television-and-wwe-network-agreement


#467

Frank

Frank

So am I skimming that article right and they want to present the network as a traditional channel? If so that's terrible. On my phone right now and don't want to confirm my skimmed assumption.


#468

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Frank said:
So am I skimming that article right and they want to present the network as a traditional channel? If so that's terrible. On my phone right now and don't want to confirm my skimmed assumption.
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It's exactly that. It's basically WWE 24/7 again rather than the Netflix-like video streaming app that the Network is in the states.

Which is fucking ridiculous. I was ready and primed to get the Network the very second it dropped in Canada. Not now. They lost a guaranteed sale from me.


#469

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Woah, Alberto Del Rio released for unprofessional conduct and an altercation with staff.


#470

Covar

Covar

Sadly that's the most exciting and interesting story involving Del Rio since he joined the WWE.


#471

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

FINALLY. That dead weight needed to be gone a long time ago.

I get the feeling they were on the verge of releasing him, anyway, and this gave them a good reason.


#472

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Damn, that's out of nowhere.


Also, is it just me, or does SummerSlam look kind of crappy now, after looking amazing a few weeks ago? I just hate Flag and Lumberjack matches. I know they're old school and there have been classic ones, but they suck nowadays.

Also, is Sheamus dead?


#473

Frank

Frank

Del Rio was perfectly fine when he had Rodriguez to be his charisma.


#474

ThatNickGuy

ThatNickGuy

Charlie Don't Surf said:
Also, is Sheamus dead?
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Out with an injury, I think.


#475

Frank

Frank

ThatNickGuy said:
Out with an injury, I think.
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He's in the running with Christian and Rey Mysterio to see who can rack up the most injuries in the shortest time.


#476

Zappit

Zappit

He's also in the running to be Darth fucking Vader in Episode 7. I know it won't be his voice, but still...

"Luke, I am your fa-ter, fella."

Vader picking up the Brogue Kick might kick ass.


#477

Covar

Covar

Apparently that was one of his jobs from before the WWE.


#478

Frank

Frank

Hey guys, the WWE Network is totally available right now for 9.99! 9.99!

It's totally 9.99. It's only 9.99!

Guys, John Cena is the WWE, the Network is only 9.99, Champion!!!


#479

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

What was that price again Frank?


#480

Frank

Frank

Even if he doesn't win the title, Brock has definitely won the undisputed sweatiest man that ever lived title.


#481

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

That was fun to watch. The sit up was great.

bork sit up.gif


#482

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

I liked that better than Wrestlemania


#483

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

I dunno could have used some more suplexes....


#484

Frank

Frank

Ambrose and Rollins are both great and managed to make one of the shittiest match types work. Ambrose's "I still love you brother!" to Rollins during the curbstomp, his pre-emptive swinging at the lumberjacks when he was thrown out of the ring and constant suicide dives just sells his character to a degree that most of those guys should take notes from.

The commentary team is still, just...dreadful. MAGGLE, the network is 9.99 MAGGLE.


#485

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

At least they are aware of how annoying the shilling is and are having fun with it.


#486

Covar

Covar

So the main event went for about 15 minutes to long. Just boring. Best thing I have to say about it is that at least it didn't end like the match at Extreme Rules 2012.


#487

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

Covar said:
Just boring.
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I will die before I get bored of John Cena getting thrown around like a rag doll


#488

Covar

Covar

Boring match is boring. No squash match needs more than 5 minutes. Truthfully every match Lesnar has had since coming back have all been boring snoozefests for that exact reason, save for his match last year against CM Punk, where Punk was actually allowed to get meaningful offense in.


#489

Frank

Frank

Covar said:
Boring match is boring. No squash match needs more than 5 minutes. Truthfully every match Lesnar has had since coming back have all been boring snoozefests for that exact reason, save for his match last year against CM Punk, where Punk was actually allowed to get meaningful offense in.
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He lost his first two back.

Also, if someone were to tell me that Brie Bella and Stephanie McMahon would have a more entertaining match than a big PPV AJ and Paige match, I would have called you a stupid shit from stupid shit town. Hey, look who's the stupid shit now.

Hell, I think it's funny that Randy Orton and Roman Reigns ended up being the piss break match, they had trouble following up Steph and Brie.


#490

Frank

Frank

Last nights Raw takeaway? Ambrose and Rollins are fucking stars since they managed to not allow Kane to suck the life out of either of their matches.


#491

Zappit

Zappit

And now Ambrose is gone until late September to make a film.


#492

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

I'm glad that was the first RAW I've watched in the last 10 years


#493

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Stop, stop he's already dead.


#494

HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Oh my gawd he's broken in half!



#495

Covar

Covar

Important news guys, NXT Takeover 2 is happening on Setpember 11th! TAKEOVER 2!! Bayley vs Charlotte!! Other matches!!


#496

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

I might check out this NXT Takeover business now that I have the Network.


#497

Covar

Covar

I'm not exaggerating when I state that NXT is the best weekly wrestling program produced today.


#498

Zappit

Zappit

Jake Roberts health just took a nosedive...

http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2014/0828/580528/jake-the-snake-roberts-hospitalized/#!bLRX2m


#499

HCGLNS

HCGLNS



#500

Zappit

Zappit

Boy! HHH was on a roll tonight, declaring he "would do what is best for the WWWE", and asking who was "up for the challenge of Brock Cena".

I miss Vince.


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