4th Ed Monks are up

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Chummer

If you have Insider you can see a PDF of a bunch of the Monk stuff. Enough to play a Monk if you so wish.

Looks nifty. I'm not sure I like that the power source is Psionic though. I mena i suppose if they had to call under an umbrella I can see the "focus mind" being under Psionics but it just seems wrong to me.

Are the unarmed strikes considered a "Monk Weapon"? I would think so cause if not than a Monk will always need a weapon which would defeat the purpose of being an Unarmed master.
 
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Kitty Sinatra

Chummer said:
I'm not sure I like that the power source is Psionic though. I mena i suppose if they had to call under an umbrella I can see the "focus mind" being under Psionics but it just seems wrong to me.
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Huh. I think I'd have preferred Martial. Or Mental - and group telepaths and such into that.
 
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Chummer

I suppose they did it because Psioincs would need more classes.

I mean you make your Telepath, MindMelter, and Psy Warrior and thats about that.

Edit: It seems the designers have said that they felt an "Asian Power Source" was dumb. So there you go...

Thus as Wu Jen might be Arcane or Divine or whatever. Or a Samurai Martial.
 
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Kitty Sinatra

Chummer said:
Edit: It seems the designers have said that they felt an "Asian Power Source" was dumb. So there you go....
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Well, it is. Although "Ki" or something like that is fine as it's not really asian.

And yeah, the Wu Jen has always been arcane. It was in the AD&D's Complete Wizard's Handbook, and 3.5's Complete Arcane.
 

Yeah, that monk weapon thing is weird. And to automatically have 2 attacks (at will power gives a second attack) as well as (if I read this correctly) an additional offhand attack, this may be unbalanced.

One other thing that I read is that the monk HAS to use a move action to utilize his powers. So backed into a corner with no move spaces available means no encounter or daily abilities?
 
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HCGLNS

Edrondol said:
Yeah, that monk weapon thing is weird. And to automatically have 2 attacks (at will power gives a second attack) as well as (if I read this correctly) an additional offhand attack, this may be unbalanced.

One other thing that I read is that the monk HAS to use a move action to utilize his powers. So backed into a corner with no move spaces available means no encounter or daily abilities?
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Or any of the multiple ways to immobilize a target? Thats a huge limitation. Try attacking a fighter with that limitation. Ouchies!
 
doomdragon6

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Edrondol said:
Yeah, that monk weapon thing is weird. And to automatically have 2 attacks (at will power gives a second attack) as well as (if I read this correctly) an additional offhand attack, this may be unbalanced.

One other thing that I read is that the monk HAS to use a move action to utilize his powers. So backed into a corner with no move spaces available means no encounter or daily abilities?
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You could always use the move action to jump up in the air. And then attack. Wee. =P
 
Bubble181

Bubble181

Is there any way a non-insider can have a look at these already? I'm not actually having any luck in finding a friend whose shoulder I can accidentally look over :paranoid:
 
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Zarvox

doomdragon6 said:
Edrondol said:
Yeah, that monk weapon thing is weird. And to automatically have 2 attacks (at will power gives a second attack) as well as (if I read this correctly) an additional offhand attack, this may be unbalanced.

One other thing that I read is that the monk HAS to use a move action to utilize his powers. So backed into a corner with no move spaces available means no encounter or daily abilities?
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You could always use the move action to jump up in the air. And then attack. Wee. =P
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As a DM, I would rule that doing so would provoke opportunity attacks.
 
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