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2018 College Football Season

#1

blotsfan

blotsfan

New season, new thread. Hopefully a good one for Mizzou.


#2

Dave

Dave

Iowa is going to be only average this year - maybe even below average. But I don't care about that. If they have a bad season, so be it. But for the love of all that's holy, BEAT FUCKING NEBRASKA!!


#3

blotsfan

blotsfan

Mizzou won our FCS game handily. kansas lost theirs.

Life is good.


#4

Gared

Gared

Both Nebraska and ISU fans got blue balled out of actual games, and from what I gather over at Nebraska's subreddit and the game thread, Fox denied their request to move the game to an earlier slot because it would've interfered with their TV schedule, so Nebraska paid Akron $1M to show up, run out of the tunnel, kick off, and go home.


#5

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Kansas law professor argues school should drop football.


#6

blotsfan

blotsfan

They deserve their suffering.


#7

jwhouk

jwhouk

Alex Peete rushed for 107 yards with a touch as we defeated the Other Concordia University, 24-6. Game was basically over before halftime, as the Hawks scored all 24 of their points in the first half. Mitchell Dess caught a 50-yard pass from Cole Wilber to make it 14-0 just over 10 minutes into the game.

Next week it's Middle Georgia State (NAIA school) at Perkins.

@DarkAudit : :p


#8

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

@jwhouk: :D


#9

Dave

Dave

Iowa beats Iowa State. Nebraska loses to, well, anybody. Now all I need are the Cowboys to win tomorrow and it'll be a perfect football weekend!


#10

Gared

Gared

Dave said:
Iowa beats Iowa State. Nebraska loses to, well, anybody. Now all I need are the Cowboys to win tomorrow and it'll be a perfect football weekend!
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:stfu:


#11

Dave

Dave



#12

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Don't let that gif distract you from the fact that Florida lost to Kentucky for the first time in 31 years last night.


#13

Gared

Gared

Dave said:
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And how did that Cowboys game work out for ya?


#14

Dave

Dave

They lost. Life goes on. But Nebraska still lost and Iowa still won so 2 out of 3 isn't bad!


#15

PatrThom

PatrThom

Dave said:
2 out of 3 ain’t bad!
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FTFY

—Patrick


#16

Dave

Dave

Pat, we can talk all night...


#17

PatrThom

PatrThom

Dave said:
Pat, we can talk all night...
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I kept looking for you, but you weren’t on!

—Patrick


#18

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Not excited this season. Don't know why. Kind of college football burn out. OU should do decent this season, but I just can't get excited about it. Maybe things will be exciting later this season.


#19

blotsfan

blotsfan

drawn_inward said:
Not excited this season. Don't know why. Kind of college football burn out. OU should do decent this season, but I just can't get excited about it. Maybe things will be exciting later this season.
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Dude Oklahoma is gonna be amazing. I could even see them being the team that loses to Alabama in the title game this year.


#20

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

WVU @ NC State just one of many games canceled this weekend because of Florence.


#21

Gared

Gared

Hmm... seems four years worth of reports of holding female coworkers down and attempting to kiss them, inappropriate behavior with and in front of donors, misappropriation of university funds, and meeting with escorts on overnight work trips doesn't constitute sufficient cause to conduct a formal investigation, or to forward those allegations to the police department, for WSU. I can't say I'm the least bit surprised. The accused is Jason Gesser. He may as well be Brett Favre and the second coming of Jesus himself where WSU is concerned. Leaf got them to their first Rose Bowl in decades, but no one could deny that he was a prick - his own coach had to bust him for parking in the handicap spot at our grocery store once. But Gesser? Gesser was polite, he was charming, he played through injury time and time again - he was everything they could have wanted as a starting QB. They could even blame their getting blown out in his Rose Bowl appearance on the extent of his rib injury and the amount of pain killers he was obviously on. Now he's a big fish in a minuscule pond, and they'll do anything to protect his reputation and theirs.

Moos' sudden departure for Nebraska always seemed a bit suspicious, but really it was more that Nebraska would want him than that he'd jump from Podunktonville USA to literally anywhere larger. Hopefully a little bit of press coverage will nudge them into maybe reconsidering their determination and possibly investigating, or maybe, potentially sending some of the recent reports to the PD.


#22

Dave

Dave

Hey, Nebraska! How's that shiny new coaching working out for you? You know the one - the one you threw in everyone's face as the SECOND COMING OF COACHING JESUS!

Fuck Nebraska. Great game, Troy!


#23

jwhouk

jwhouk

73-0. Didn't get the school record, but my oh my. Of course, they're an NAIA club, but still - a lot better this year than last in the NC schedule for the Warhawks.


#24

Gared

Gared

Urban Meyer continues to whine about how he's the real victim here, and how he was suspended because he "mismanaged a very troubled employee and tried to help him too much." No you shit bag, you were suspended because you lied to the media about not having known that he had a history of domestic violence. You were suspended because you hired him in the first place after knowing that he had a history of DV and failed to tell your AD about his record. You were suspended because you chose to extend his contract twice after you had evidence that he beat his wife (a text message in which the accused admitted to the victim that he had choked her nearly to death).

At the press conference where they suspended him for "3 games" (which literally meant only those 3 days, apparently, since he was allowed to go back to coaching practice two weeks ago) he apologized to the fans and the university for them being in this situation, but refused to actually apologize to the person who was being beaten by his employee. At this point, I don't know why the university hasn't told him to shut the hell up about it, because every time he opens his mouth he just sounds even more tone-deaf about the whole situation.


#25

blotsfan

blotsfan

Gared said:
Hmm... seems four years worth of reports of holding female coworkers down and attempting to kiss them, inappropriate behavior with and in front of donors, misappropriation of university funds, and meeting with escorts on overnight work trips doesn't constitute sufficient cause to conduct a formal investigation, or to forward those allegations to the police department, for WSU. I can't say I'm the least bit surprised. The accused is Jason Gesser. He may as well be Brett Favre and the second coming of Jesus himself where WSU is concerned. Leaf got them to their first Rose Bowl in decades, but no one could deny that he was a prick - his own coach had to bust him for parking in the handicap spot at our grocery store once. But Gesser? Gesser was polite, he was charming, he played through injury time and time again - he was everything they could have wanted as a starting QB. They could even blame their getting blown out in his Rose Bowl appearance on the extent of his rib injury and the amount of pain killers he was obviously on. Now he's a big fish in a minuscule pond, and they'll do anything to protect his reputation and theirs.

Moos' sudden departure for Nebraska always seemed a bit suspicious, but really it was more that Nebraska would want him than that he'd jump from Podunktonville USA to literally anywhere larger. Hopefully a little bit of press coverage will nudge them into maybe reconsidering their determination and possibly investigating, or maybe, potentially sending some of the recent reports to the PD.
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Well, Gesser has resigned. Can't say I know much about this case, but at least theres been some modicum of justice.


#26

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

DarkAudit said:
WVU @ NC State just one of many games canceled this weekend because of Florence.
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Too bad. WVU has a pretty great QB this season.


#27

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Welp, The coveted #5 spot in the ESPN Bottom 10 this week is secured.


#28

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Someone posted the 1976 Pitt-Penn State game to YouTube recently. And in the intro was this...


That's a view you'll never see again. Except on old videotapes.


#29

Gared

Gared

All rivalries aside, thoughts and prayers for Christion Abercrombie of Tennessee State University - who suffered what is believed to be a very serious brain injury during yesterday's game with Vandy. Luckily, he's in some of the best hands he could be when it comes to neurological events and his collapse happened 1,000 feet from a level 1 trauma center, but "conscious and non responsive" is usually very, very bad.


#30

Dave

Dave

I read about that. Good lord that sucks. They said they couldn't even pinpoint where the injury happened on film.


#31

Gared

Gared

Dave said:
I read about that. Good lord that sucks. They said they couldn't even pinpoint where the injury happened on film.
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Yeah, there's some speculation that it could have been a secondary-hit injury, so he would've sustained the bigger part of the blow in a previous game and a smaller, less violent hit could have triggered the bleed (still, assuming) yesterday.


#32

jwhouk

jwhouk

WARHAWKS ARE STILL UNDEFEATED!

Downing their first WIAC opponent in 25th ranked UW-La Crosse, the Warhawks scored 27 unanswered points in a 30-7 win at UWLC.

Senior QB Cole Wilber threw for 244 yards and 3 touchdowns (all to three different receivers), while Soph RB Alex Peete ran for 102 yards and added a late TD to seal the deal.

The turning point in the game came in the fourth, when Junior DB Garrett Purdy intercepted Eagles' QB Ben Schramski on their first play from scrimmage after UWW had upped the score to 17-7.

Whitewater (now ranked #8 by d3football.com) will continue the WIAC schedule by facing the always-tough (and 10th ranked) UW-Oshkosh at Perkins Stadium next Saturday.


#33

Gared

Gared

Looks like details about University of Maryland's investigation have been forwarded to the Washington Post. If there's investigative consensus, they'd best be firing that head coach and everyone under them, post haste - because this is a program that should have been granted the death penalty, and we know that will never happen again.


#34

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

When a win feels like a loss because it wasn't a complete obliteration of Kansas. Should still move up because OU, LSU and Auburn lost.


#35

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

Rivalries are sad when one of the teams just quits caring about football.


#36

Dave

Dave

Iowa win. Nebraska loses. Aw yeah.


#37

jwhouk

jwhouk

Whitewater is still undefeated! UW-0 got shut out in a 20-0 win at Perkins Stadium. Cole WIlber launched two long passes to J.T. Parish - one in the 2nd, one in the 3rd - and the Warhawks handled the Titans the rest of the game for the W.

Next Week is Eau Claire.


#38

blotsfan

blotsfan

Hey @jwhouk not sure if you've been paying attention but your boy Leipold has been doing work around these parts. He came into this season on the hot seat but now I'd say the only way he's gone is if a bigger school comes calling.


#39

Gared

Gared

Meanwhile, the Pac-12 has a serious - and I mean SERIOUS - problem. The president of the conference had to come out and clarify that the conference's general counsel wasn't the one making calls in the replay center for things like targeting reviews. Now they have to prove that's true. The call that brought all of this up was the refusal to call what was obviously, blatantly targeting by a WSU player on USC's QB. Honestly, the NCAA needs to launch a swift and very thorough investigation into these allegations, and any games that could be found to have been influenced need to have their results vacated - because having an attorney decide penalties is beyond fucked up.


#40

jwhouk

jwhouk

blotsfan said:
Hey @jwhouk not sure if you've been paying attention but your boy Leipold has been doing work around these parts. He came into this season on the hot seat but now I'd say the only way he's gone is if a bigger school comes calling.
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Oh yeah, Lance occasionally pops up on my Twitter timeline. Former classmate and all that.


#41

jwhouk

jwhouk

38-0 with 11:26 to go in the game. UWEC's commentators are calling it a "brutal" game for the Blugolds*. Whitewater heading for yet another WIAC win.



* - Seriously, though - what the f*** is a Blugold?


#42

jwhouk

jwhouk

45-0 final at UWEC. Game got a little chippy at the end; a few personal fouls on the Warhawks after a punt return, and the game got really sloppy by the end, but it's still a win.


#43

Dave

Dave

Iowa win, Nebraska loss. How sweet it is.


#44



BErt



#45

jwhouk

jwhouk

Bite me, Wolverine breath.


#46

Gared

Gared

University of Maryland - What the absolute fuck are you doing?!

So, for those who may have forgotten - it's been a busy few months, after all - the UMD football team had a player die after suffering exertional heatstroke and being improperly treated by the training staff. Jordan McNair suffered heatstroke at practice in May, and died 15 days later. The initial investigation found that athletic training staff had failed to call paramedics, failed to take any measures to reduce McNair's body temperature (they had actually instructed two of his teammates to drag him around the field to "walk off" his high temperature), and that these failures were consistent with a program out of control and with a dangerous culture of disregard for player safety.

All of this remained quiet - relatively unknown, in fact, to anyone but the team and McNair's family. It took until September, when ESPN broke the story, for this news to really get out. Since that time, the Head Coach, DJ Durkin, and Athletic Director Damon Evans have been on paid administrative leave while an independent review could be conducted at the behest of the Board of Regents. It is important to note that the UMD Board of Regents, unlike those in other states (Michigan, specifically), are appointed by the Governor of the state. The independent review has been completed, and - though the review found ample evidence to support a toxic culture*, lack of concern for player safety**, and direct culpability of individual actors*** - the board of regents, on Monday, recommended the reinstatement of Head Coach, DJ Durkin. University President, Wallace D. Loh, is on the record as having recommended the firings of Durkin, Evans, and the athletic training staff responsible. He was threatened with being fired if he carried through on those actions, so instead he reinstated Durkin.

The following day, the UMD student body president announced that there would be a campus-wide walkout to protest the reinstatement of Durkin, and that he was introducing legislation requiring Durkin's immediate removal. Yesterday, under immense pressure from the student body, the football team, the Governor, the athletic conference, the NCAA, and pretty much everybody with a brain, Durkin was fired. Today, the Washington Post (the local paper for UMD... ouch!) reports that the BoR also recommended that the athletic trainers directly responsible for McNair's death be reinstated immediately. The university corroborates this report, but would like to remind everyone that they have not acted on this recommendation.

* Reports, corroborated by both reviews, indicate the following, regarding the UMD Football Team Culture:
  • A player, who was being disciplined for failing to make his weight loss goal, was forced to sit on the sidelines while the coaches threw candy bars at him and he was forced to gorge himself on those candy bars while the coaches called him fat.
  • DJ Durkin routinely put down players that he felt weren't working hard enough, threatened to revoke their scholarships, and accused them of stealing from taxpayers.
  • Players who were obviously injured were forced to continue with workouts, even to the point of being carried by their teammates.
** In the process of the review, it was revealed that either no one understood who was really in charge of the athletic trainers, or simply that no one was willing to accept responsibility for them. Durkin's contract, as head coach, states that he is the direct report for the athletic training staff assigned to the football team; however, he states that he has no idea how that language made it into his contract, because it wasn't there when he signed it. To add to the intrigue, Kevin Anderson, the former athletic director - who wrote the contract - agrees with Durkin that he was not labeled as the direct report in said contract. He further went on to allege that while Evans was acting as his assistant AD, Evans started going around him directly to Loh about matters pertaining to the football team, athletic training staff, and to Anderson's own contract. Anderson was placed on sabbatical last October until his "retirement" in February, when Evans - with the direct support of Loh - took over as AD. So, back to the topic of to whom the training staff reported - Durkin and Anderson report that the training staff reported to an assistant AD and professor of Sports Medicine in the School of Medicine. The professor in question states that he previously held that role, under the Durkin, when Anderson was the AD, but that his understanding was that had changed when Evans took over. A year before all of this happened, Wallace Loh rejected a proposal by the Athletics Department to permanently assign the athletic training department to the School of Medicine.

*** Reports from players at practice that day, and by Durkin himself, corroborated by both investigations, indicate that when Jordan McNair first showed signs of heatstroke, head trainer Court called him fat and told two of his teammates to "drag his lazy ass through the rest of those sprints." After assistant training staff requested that an ambulance be called for McNair, Court nixed the call. Court then lied to the university and to McNair's parents about the events leading up to his death. Further reports, corroborated during the toxic culture investigation, show that Court routinely "tortured" players.

So, there we have it. A complete and utter lack of institutional control if ever there was one. Also, a complete disregard for human life, human dignity, and basic human decency. I posit to you, dear reader, that if ever a program deserved the NCAA Death Penalty, it's this one. And there's no allowing them to weasel out because "their local economy couldn't handle the loss of revenue." Maryland famously isn't a football school.


#47

Dave

Dave

As much as I'm a football fan, if they stopped playing football or ANY sports at a collegiate level, I would not shed a tear.


#48

Gared

Gared

Dave said:
As much as I'm a football fan, if they stopped playing football or ANY sports at a collegiate level, I would not shed a tear.
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It's hard to even know where to begin to start fixing the multitude of issues that seem to follow college sports everywhere - but I'd still miss marching band, all of the opportunities that a healthy, well run athletic department provides to students in and out of its direct purview (like all of those sports medicine students who have access to real injuries to study, since some injuries are unavoidable), and traditions like that Children's Hospital Wave that Iowa has going on at its stadium.


#49

Dave

Dave

Iowa has a tendency to remove problem players. That's not to say that there hasn't been bad guys, but for the most part Iowa will cut the fuckers loose.


#50

Gared

Gared

Dave said:
Iowa has a tendency to remove problem players. That's not to say that there hasn't been bad guys, but for the most part Iowa will cut the fuckers loose.
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I know, it's why I can no longer actually support my family rivalry between the Cyclones and the Hawkeyes. I can respect the players on the field and love the university off the field too much to keep up the "hatred" for the other team, no matter how good natured it was.


#51

Snuffleupagus

Snuffleupagus

Gared said:
University of Maryland - What the absolute fuck are you doing?!

So, for those who may have forgotten - it's been a busy few months, after all - the UMD football team had a player die after suffering exertional heatstroke and being improperly treated by the training staff. Jordan McNair suffered heatstroke at practice in May, and died 15 days later. The initial investigation found that athletic training staff had failed to call paramedics, failed to take any measures to reduce McNair's body temperature (they had actually instructed two of his teammates to drag him around the field to "walk off" his high temperature), and that these failures were consistent with a program out of control and with a dangerous culture of disregard for player safety.

All of this remained quiet - relatively unknown, in fact, to anyone but the team and McNair's family. It took until September, when ESPN broke the story, for this news to really get out. Since that time, the Head Coach, DJ Durkin, and Athletic Director Damon Evans have been on paid administrative leave while an independent review could be conducted at the behest of the Board of Regents. It is important to note that the UMD Board of Regents, unlike those in other states (Michigan, specifically), are appointed by the Governor of the state. The independent review has been completed, and - though the review found ample evidence to support a toxic culture*, lack of concern for player safety**, and direct culpability of individual actors*** - the board of regents, on Monday, recommended the reinstatement of Head Coach, DJ Durkin. University President, Wallace D. Loh, is on the record as having recommended the firings of Durkin, Evans, and the athletic training staff responsible. He was threatened with being fired if he carried through on those actions, so instead he reinstated Durkin.

The following day, the UMD student body president announced that there would be a campus-wide walkout to protest the reinstatement of Durkin, and that he was introducing legislation requiring Durkin's immediate removal. Yesterday, under immense pressure from the student body, the football team, the Governor, the athletic conference, the NCAA, and pretty much everybody with a brain, Durkin was fired. Today, the Washington Post (the local paper for UMD... ouch!) reports that the BoR also recommended that the athletic trainers directly responsible for McNair's death be reinstated immediately. The university corroborates this report, but would like to remind everyone that they have not acted on this recommendation.

* Reports, corroborated by both reviews, indicate the following, regarding the UMD Football Team Culture:
  • A player, who was being disciplined for failing to make his weight loss goal, was forced to sit on the sidelines while the coaches threw candy bars at him and he was forced to gorge himself on those candy bars while the coaches called him fat.
  • DJ Durkin routinely put down players that he felt weren't working hard enough, threatened to revoke their scholarships, and accused them of stealing from taxpayers.
  • Players who were obviously injured were forced to continue with workouts, even to the point of being carried by their teammates.
** In the process of the review, it was revealed that either no one understood who was really in charge of the athletic trainers, or simply that no one was willing to accept responsibility for them. Durkin's contract, as head coach, states that he is the direct report for the athletic training staff assigned to the football team; however, he states that he has no idea how that language made it into his contract, because it wasn't there when he signed it. To add to the intrigue, Kevin Anderson, the former athletic director - who wrote the contract - agrees with Durkin that he was not labeled as the direct report in said contract. He further went on to allege that while Evans was acting as his assistant AD, Evans started going around him directly to Loh about matters pertaining to the football team, athletic training staff, and to Anderson's own contract. Anderson was placed on sabbatical last October until his "retirement" in February, when Evans - with the direct support of Loh - took over as AD. So, back to the topic of to whom the training staff reported - Durkin and Anderson report that the training staff reported to an assistant AD and professor of Sports Medicine in the School of Medicine. The professor in question states that he previously held that role, under the Durkin, when Anderson was the AD, but that his understanding was that had changed when Evans took over. A year before all of this happened, Wallace Loh rejected a proposal by the Athletics Department to permanently assign the athletic training department to the School of Medicine.

*** Reports from players at practice that day, and by Durkin himself, corroborated by both investigations, indicate that when Jordan McNair first showed signs of heatstroke, head trainer Court called him fat and told two of his teammates to "drag his lazy ass through the rest of those sprints." After assistant training staff requested that an ambulance be called for McNair, Court nixed the call. Court then lied to the university and to McNair's parents about the events leading up to his death. Further reports, corroborated during the toxic culture investigation, show that Court routinely "tortured" players.

So, there we have it. A complete and utter lack of institutional control if ever there was one. Also, a complete disregard for human life, human dignity, and basic human decency. I posit to you, dear reader, that if ever a program deserved the NCAA Death Penalty, it's this one. And there's no allowing them to weasel out because "their local economy couldn't handle the loss of revenue." Maryland famously isn't a football school.
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I'm pretty sure Durkin has been fired. He was only reinstated because the Board of Regents doesn't have the authority to fire him. President Loh isn't exactly the champion of the people either, his decisions led to the death of the player. Durkin and his assistant went to Loh a few months before the season began and asked for the training staff to be replaced by an independent group of trainers from UM Baltimore but were turned down because Loh didn't want to spend the money. In my opinion they need to clean house completely. Someone died playing a game and everyone that should have been responsible failed. The student body has been protesting against Durkin AND Loh since Friday and is probably the only reason Loh actually fired Durkin. Loh won't face any repercussions either because he is retiring in a few months and they're just going to let him ride it out. They should fire him and take away his golden parachute.


#52

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

The Chair of the Maryland Board of Regents has since resigned.


#53

Gared

Gared

Following Tuesday's Practice, UMD Backup Punter Beaten by Teammates. Backup punter Matt Barber says he was held back by multiple teammates while the starting punter, Wade Lees, assaulted him by hitting him repeatedly because he spoke out against Durkin during the investigation. Lees and several other players admit to holding him down and beating the shit out of him, but say it was because he'd been picking on younger teammates and the score needed to be settled. Barber is now suing the university.


#54

Gared

Gared

Not sure how The Baltimore Sun scores on reliability, bias, and sensationalism, but it sounds like UMD may be facing an even more serious penalty than the NCAA Death Penalty for their football team. The BoR's actions in arguing for the reinstatement of all of these actors may cost them... the university's accreditation.


#55

Dave

Dave

Holy shit that's fucking monumentally huge for a university. For those of you not in the know, losing accreditation means that the college can not get federal funding of any kind. That means that student that go there would NOT BE ABLE TO GET FEDERAL STUDENT LOANS! Losing accreditation would almost certainly be a death knell for the university.

Again, holy fucking shit that's nuclear.


#56

blotsfan

blotsfan

Literally 0 chance that happens. I'd bet anything.


#57

Gared

Gared

blotsfan said:
Literally 0 chance that happens. I'd bet anything.
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We can certainly hope. Does the university need to be cleaned up? Absolutely. Do we need to punish all of the students who attend the entire university? Really, should any of the students be getting punished? No. Absolutely not.


#58

blotsfan

blotsfan

Not to mention Maryland high schoolers. I can't imagine how devastating having the largest public college in a state shutting down would be.


#59

Dave

Dave

I can see them pulling a Penn State and doing a cleaning of the whole football staff. But it really goes deeper than that. The Board of Regents overrode the decision of the school's President to keep the coaching staff on the payroll. THAT'S why the accreditation is in danger of being pulled - not because of the kid's death (although they are citing a portion of the bylaws about student safety) but because of the interference of the Board in a position that is supposed to be autonomous.

The Board told the President that the coach and AD would stay, so the President said, "Fuck you. I'm retiring." The next day he fired the coach. The day after that the Deans and Provost sent out a letter PUBLICLY that talked about how the actions of the Board endangered the accreditation. Keep in mind the people overseeing the accreditation has been investigating the school since AUGUST.

It's also interesting to note that the body in charge of investigating the "toxic atmosphere" at Maryland was...the Board of Regents. Of course, they found nothing wrong.

I know that this would hurt a lot of people if it happens, but colleges have to really toe the line to keep accreditation and it sounds like they might need to be slapped for a year.


#60

blotsfan

blotsfan

But if everyone responsible for this gets fired, then nobody is hurt besides the students and faculty that did nothing wrong. Unless the state/university system had to make up for all the federal funds lost.


#61

Gared

Gared

Dave said:
I can see them pulling a Penn State and doing a cleaning of the whole football staff. But it really goes deeper than that. The Board of Regents overrode the decision of the school's President to keep the coaching staff on the payroll. THAT'S why the accreditation is in danger of being pulled - not because of the kid's death (although they are citing a portion of the bylaws about student safety) but because of the interference of the Board in a position that is supposed to be autonomous.

The Board told the President that the coach and AD would stay, so the President said, "Fuck you. I'm retiring." The next day he fired the coach. The day after that the Deans and Provost sent out a letter PUBLICLY that talked about how the actions of the Board endangered the accreditation. Keep in mind the people overseeing the accreditation has been investigating the school since AUGUST.

It's also interesting to note that the body in charge of investigating the "toxic atmosphere" at Maryland was...the Board of Regents. Of course, they found nothing wrong.

I know that this would hurt a lot of people if it happens, but colleges have to really toe the line to keep accreditation and it sounds like they might need to be slapped for a year.
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If it's something that can be done for only a year - and then reinstated a year later, or following a comprehensive review and real progress toward safety consciousness and a new BoR, or whatever - then it doesn't sound as bad. I just remember entire small communities disappearing whenever a community college or JuCo would lose their accreditation, so to have a major institution lose theirs is a little daunting sounding. It's still terrible for students at the university for that year, but this has the potential to go far beyond football and into the realm of (official) political meddling in institutions of higher learning, since all UMD Board of Regents members must be appointed by the governor, but then serve lifelong appointments. There's also the matter of the $1.5B university-program wide fundraising effort that was just derailed, as one of the major donors backed out.


#62

Dave

Dave

Shit like this happens all the time. People in the system do shitty things and then leave (usually getting some sort of golden parachute) and THEN the university gets fucked by fines or whatever. It's ALWAYS the current administration and students that get screwed over while those who did the bad deeds are gone. But the alternative is to NOT fine or suspend, which means the institutions get away with this stuff scott free. Doing the fines or suspensions after the fact means the schools still have to vet employees and gives an incentive to keeping things the way they are supposed to be. And yes, taxpayers will probably get hit with this.

So if they let them off I'm against it. I don't know if losing accreditation is the answer, but it can be suspended for a year pending review.


#63

Dave

Dave

Gared said:
If it's something that can be done for only a year - and then reinstated a year later, or following a comprehensive review and real progress toward safety consciousness and a new BoR, or whatever - then it doesn't sound as bad. I just remember entire small communities disappearing whenever a community college or JuCo would lose their accreditation, so to have a major institution lose theirs is a little daunting sounding. It's still terrible for students at the university for that year, but this has the potential to go far beyond football and into the realm of (official) political meddling in institutions of higher learning, since all UMD Board of Regents members must be appointed by the governor, but then serve lifelong appointments. There's also the matter of the $1.5B university-program wide fundraising effort that was just derailed, as one of the major donors backed out.
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More than likely it'll end up being like Penn State. Loss of athletic scholarships, no post-season possibilities, huge fines, etc.

But the Board interference is huge and they may well get slapped down. And FYI, accreditation is a continuous process that never stops. We get reviewed every couple of years. But there are a lot of issues if it gets suspended. You can read a lot about it here: https://www.collegesanddegrees.com/accreditation


#64



BErt

@DarkAudit you still alive after that??


#65

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

BErt said:
@DarkAudit you still alive after that??
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It's a work night, so all I saw was the score when my alarm went off, and highlights after.


#66



BErt

How does Dana walk with those enormous balls


#67

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

CFB game and postgame threads are chock full of...


#68

Gared

Gared

Fuckin' Army cadets, injurin' Airforce's mascot. Poor bird may have to be euthanized due to a broken wing she suffered when she was being stolen from the home of the officer caring for her before the game. The cadets have already been arrested.

Also, I can't speak for most of the game, but the MVP of the last two minutes of the Purdue game should definitely be the ref that called that Defensive Holding call in the end zone.


#69

PatrThom

PatrThom

Gared said:
Fuckin' Army cadets, injurin' Airforce's mascot. Poor bird may have to be euthanized due to a broken wing she suffered when she was being stolen from the home of the officer caring for her before the game. The cadets have already been arrested.
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What.

--Patrick


#70

WasabiPoptart

WasabiPoptart

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#71

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Congrats WVU. Any team that takes down saxet is okay with me. Tuck Fexas.


#72

jwhouk

jwhouk

Warhawks clinched the WIAC title outright with a 59-7 drubbing of the Pointers from UW-Stevens Point. Warhawks have yet to surrender more than 10 points in a game this year, pitching three shutouts (though one of them was an NAIA "team") and no more than a single TD in the rest of the games.

UWW (9-0, 6-0 conference) is ranked 5th in the d3football.com poll and wraps up WIAC play Saturday at Platteville.


#73

Gared

Gared

drawn_inward said:
Congrats WVU. Any team that takes down saxet is okay with me. Tuck Fexas.
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Tuck Fexas and Huck The Fuskies!


#74

Gared

Gared

Well, in case Maryland is thinking they're too big to fail, they might want to take a look at what's going on with Gymnastics USA and the USOC.


#75

Gared

Gared

Gared said:
Tuck Fexas and Bow Down before the Dawg Father.
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After today's developments, I fear I can no longer call out the Washington Huskies. It's a sad day for WSU fandom (not really), but some things are more important. So... FTFM... I guess.


#76

Gared

Gared

Sessions' replacement - Whitaker - played tight end for the Iowa Hawkeyes, who lost the 1991 Rose Bowl to the Washington Huskies.


#77

jwhouk

jwhouk

...wait, why was this thread not up there? I got so confused!

Anyways: the important news of the weekend is that UW-Whitewater went UNDEFEATED in the regular season (10-0, 7-0 WIAC)!


#78

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

The folks at /r/CFB gave us this little gem. So which team are you gonna troll us with first, @jwhouk? :D


#79

jwhouk

jwhouk

Well, gee, who do you think?



III WI Whitewater beat WI Oshkosh 20-0
III WI Oshkosh beat Lincoln MO 17-7
II Lincoln MO beat Lane 10-7
II Lane beat Miles 15-14
II Miles beat Albany GA 50-23
II Albany GA beat Catawba 35-21
II Catawba beat W Salem St 34-7
II W Salem St beat Fayetteville St 51-21
II Fayetteville St beat Chowan 40-38
II Chowan beat McKendree 55-45
II McKendree beat N Michigan 34-28
II N Michigan beat Wayne St MI 34-24
II Wayne St MI beat Northwood MI 55-21
II Northwood MI beat Michigan Tech 26-23
II Michigan Tech beat Truman St 20-10
II Truman St beat Valparaiso 34-20
I - FCS Valparaiso beat Butler 35-17
I - FCS Butler beat Youngstown St 23-21
I - FCS Youngstown St beat Northern Iowa 31-10
I - FCS Northern Iowa beat Illinois St 26-16
I - FCS Illinois St beat Colorado St 35-19
I - FBS Colorado St beat San Jose St 42-30
I - FBS San Jose St beat UNLV 50-37
I - FBS UNLV beat San Diego St 27-24
I - FBS San Diego St beat E Michigan 23-20
I - FBS E Michigan beat Purdue 20-19
I - FBS Purdue beat Iowa 38-36
I - FBS Iowa beat Iowa St 13-3
I - FBS Iowa St beat West Virginia 30-14


#80

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Oh yeah?

I - FBS West Virginia beat Youngstown St 52-17
I - FCS Youngstown St beat Northern Iowa 31-10
I - FCS Northern Iowa beat Illinois St 26-16
I - FCS Illinois St beat St Xavier IL 46-0
NAIA St Xavier IL beat MO Baptist 34-7
NAIA MO Baptist is better than Bethel MN because MO Baptist beat WI River Falls 38-28
and Bethel MN only beat WI River Falls 32-27
III Bethel MN is better than WI Whitewater because Bethel MN beat Concordia Mhd 41-13
and WI Whitewater only beat Concordia Mhd 24-6


#81

jwhouk

jwhouk

Well, how about Missouri?

III WI Whitewater beat WI Oshkosh 20-0
III WI Oshkosh beat Lincoln MO 17-7
II Lincoln MO beat Lane 10-7
II Lane beat Miles 15-14
II Miles beat Albany GA 50-23
II Albany GA beat Catawba 35-21
II Catawba beat W Salem St 34-7
II W Salem St beat Fayetteville St 51-21
II Fayetteville St beat Chowan 40-38
II Chowan beat McKendree 55-45
II McKendree beat N Michigan 34-28
II N Michigan beat Wayne St MI 34-24
II Wayne St MI beat Northwood MI 55-21
II Northwood MI beat Michigan Tech 26-23
II Michigan Tech beat Truman St 20-10
II Truman St beat Valparaiso 34-20
I - FCS Valparaiso beat Butler 35-17
I - FCS Butler beat Youngstown St 23-21
I - FCS Youngstown St beat Northern Iowa 31-10
I - FCS Northern Iowa beat Illinois St 26-16
I - FCS Illinois St beat Colorado St 35-19
I - FBS Colorado St beat San Jose St 42-30
I - FBS San Jose St beat UNLV 50-37
I - FBS UNLV beat San Diego St 27-24
I - FBS San Diego St beat E Michigan 23-20
I - FBS E Michigan beat Purdue 20-19
I - FBS Purdue beat Iowa 38-36
I - FBS Iowa beat Iowa St 13-3
I - FBS Iowa St beat West Virginia 30-14
I - FBS West Virginia beat Tennessee 40-14
I - FBS Tennessee beat Kentucky 24-7
I - FBS Kentucky beat Missouri 15-14


#82

jwhouk

jwhouk

No? Maybe Iowa instead?

III WI Whitewater beat WI Oshkosh 20-0
III WI Oshkosh beat Lincoln MO 17-7
II Lincoln MO beat Lane 10-7
II Lane beat Miles 15-14
II Miles beat Albany GA 50-23
II Albany GA beat Catawba 35-21
II Catawba beat W Salem St 34-7
II W Salem St beat Fayetteville St 51-21
II Fayetteville St beat Chowan 40-38
II Chowan beat McKendree 55-45
II McKendree beat N Michigan 34-28
II N Michigan beat Wayne St MI 34-24
II Wayne St MI beat Northwood MI 55-21
II Northwood MI beat Michigan Tech 26-23
II Michigan Tech beat Truman St 20-10
II Truman St beat Valparaiso 34-20
I - FCS Valparaiso beat Butler 35-17
I - FCS Butler beat Youngstown St 23-21
I - FCS Youngstown St beat Northern Iowa 31-10
I - FCS Northern Iowa beat Illinois St 26-16
I - FCS Illinois St beat Colorado St 35-19
I - FBS Colorado St beat San Jose St 42-30
I - FBS San Jose St beat UNLV 50-37
I - FBS UNLV beat San Diego St 27-24
I - FBS San Diego St beat E Michigan 23-20
I - FBS E Michigan beat Purdue 20-19
I - FBS Purdue beat Iowa 38-36


#83

jwhouk

jwhouk

Oooh! I know! Texas A&M!

III WI Whitewater beat WI Oshkosh 20-0
III WI Oshkosh beat Lincoln MO 17-7
II Lincoln MO beat Lane 10-7
II Lane beat Miles 15-14
II Miles beat Albany GA 50-23
II Albany GA beat Catawba 35-21
II Catawba beat W Salem St 34-7
II W Salem St beat Fayetteville St 51-21
II Fayetteville St beat Chowan 40-38
II Chowan beat McKendree 55-45
II McKendree beat N Michigan 34-28
II N Michigan beat Wayne St MI 34-24
II Wayne St MI beat Northwood MI 55-21
II Northwood MI beat Michigan Tech 26-23
II Michigan Tech beat Truman St 20-10
II Truman St beat Valparaiso 34-20
I - FCS Valparaiso beat Butler 35-17
I - FCS Butler beat Youngstown St 23-21
I - FCS Youngstown St beat Northern Iowa 31-10
I - FCS Northern Iowa beat Illinois St 26-16
I - FCS Illinois St beat Colorado St 35-19
I - FBS Colorado St beat San Jose St 42-30
I - FBS San Jose St beat UNLV 50-37
I - FBS UNLV beat San Diego St 27-24
I - FBS San Diego St beat E Michigan 23-20
I - FBS E Michigan beat Purdue 20-19
I - FBS Purdue beat Iowa 38-36
I - FBS Iowa beat Iowa St 13-3
I - FBS Iowa St beat West Virginia 30-14
I - FBS West Virginia beat Tennessee 40-14
I - FBS Tennessee beat Auburn 30-24
I - FBS Auburn beat Texas A&M 28-24


#84

Dave

Dave

Someone take that away from him.


#85

jwhouk

jwhouk

Hee heee heeeeeee....

Seriously, Dave - I'll be good. It's fun, though.


#86

jwhouk

jwhouk

In reality, the Warhawks are in the midst of taking care of their 1st round opponents, the Eureka Red Devils. 67-14 with less than 30 seconds to go.

Next week is gonna be... interesting. We play cross-state rivals St. Norbert's. Good thing this isn't hockey, of course...


#87

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

It's only halftime in Pullman as I type this, but somewhere @Gared is smiling.


#88

blotsfan

blotsfan

DarkAudit said:
It's only halftime in Pullman as I type this, but somewhere @Gared is smiling.
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*checks final score*

Nice


#89

jwhouk

jwhouk

For the 310th time since I first matriculated at Wisconsin-Whitewater, the Warhawks football team won a football game. This time it was the Regional Quarterfinals over cross-state rivals St. Norbert's College, 54-21. Of the six games we've play against them since 1985, the last four have all been playoff games - and all have been blowouts (192-45 over those last four).

The Warhawks will face Bethel College of Minnesota in the Quarterfinals of the Stagg Bowl tournament next week (likely at Perkins Stadium).


#90

jwhouk

jwhouk

So I have only one question:

What's a Mary Hardin Baylor?


#91

blotsfan

blotsfan

Kelly Bryant is gonna look damn good in a Mizzou uniform.


#92

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

What are the chances of OU making it past Bama? OU has recently played all the playoff teams. Hopefully that's an advantage.


#93

blotsfan

blotsfan

In an incredibly on-brand move, Liberty is hiring Hugh Freeze as their head coach.


#94

jwhouk

jwhouk

What conference is Liberty planning on joining in DI? And what's the likelihood that whatever conference it is will be inundated with protests about allowing Liberty to play in its conference?


#95

blotsfan

blotsfan

They aren't joining a conference. No conference would take them. That's traditionally a requirement for going to FBS, but they threatened to sue the NCAA and expose their dirty laundry so the NCAA caved before it could go to court.


#96

jwhouk

jwhouk

They deserve each other.


#97

DarkAudit

DarkAudit



#98

jwhouk

jwhouk

It'd be about the only good thing to happen to the Middies all year.


#99

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

So Will Grier is sitting out the bowl game. If the bowl officials had any balls, they'd withdraw the invitation. Any incentive for fans to travel to Orlando now is right out the window.


#100

jwhouk

jwhouk

...so that's what a Mary Hardin-Baylor is. :(

31-14 final. So much for another Stagg Bowl. MHB will take on the Other Purple Team for the D3 title.


#101

jwhouk

jwhouk

So you say your team didn't get invited to a Bowl Game, and your season's over.

Well, there's always... THE UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA AT FAIRBURN FIGHTIN' PANDAS!



#102

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

There's an unfortunate quote in the ESPN article about UH's new hire.
Added Pezman: "Schools that have had that person, like T. Boone Pickens [at Oklahoma State]... or Drayton McLane at Baylor, when you have those people, that's when you have a chance to separate yourself from everybody else. I'm not naïve in understanding the significance of that for us."
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He's referring to Tilman Fertitta, UH's super donor. But do you really want to compare yourself to Baylor right now?

@Gared, this is in your wheelhouse. Have at it.


#103

blotsfan

blotsfan

Well that was something.


#104

Dave

Dave

I hate Clemson but I hate Alabama more. So I was satisfied. But I'd rather neither team have been there.


#105

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Didn't watch the game, but glad Bama didn't win.


#106

blotsfan

blotsfan

There's a large segment of Bama fans that think they'll get Dabo when Saban retires, but it sure feels like he's a Clemson lifer now.


#107

General Specific

General Specific

Dave said:
I hate Clemson but I hate Alabama more. So I was satisfied. But I'd rather neither team have been there.
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I'm actually the opposite, but with Bama being in the SEC, it's mostly a wash


#108

General Specific

General Specific

blotsfan said:
There's a large segment of Bama fans that think they'll get Dabo when Saban retires
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Yeah, no. Clemson was going to pay him almost anything after the first win, now he can demand every Clemson fan's first born be sacrificed to him and he'd get it.


#109

blotsfan

blotsfan

General Specific said:
Yeah, no. Clemson was going to pay him almost anything after the first win, now he can demand every Clemson fan's first born be sacrificed to him and he'd get it.
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Eh he'd get that money from Bama too. The logic was more because thats his alma mater. But now he's unquestionably their best coach ever and will be a legend for as long as he wants to coach.


#110

General Specific

General Specific

I pity the AD that is unable to get him back.


#111

sixpackshaker

sixpackshaker

When mama calls, you come running. - Bear Bryant.


#112

blotsfan

blotsfan

Today we learned a valuable lesson:

Keep a child rapist (boys) on staff? Fine.

Let football players rape people and cover it up? Fine.

Literally create fake classes for student's? Fine.

Keep a child rapist (girls) on staff? Fine.

Find out that a tutor was doing work for athletes (2 football players), fire the tutor, and report it to the NCAA? BOWL BAN!


#113

drawn_inward

drawn_inward

Link? I don't see anything on ESPN.

On a totally unrelated note (I think?), I didn't realize Mack Brown was the head coach at UNC this last season. I always wear my OU cap around town. I hope I run into him at Trader Joes. :twisted:


#114

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

drawn_inward said:
Link? I don't see anything on ESPN.
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I believe it's this.


#115

blotsfan

blotsfan

Forgetting the tutor herself since she has a whole mess of stuff that's complicated. This is what happened according to the NCAA.

1) There was a tutor that was doing classwork for 12 athletes across 3 sports, two of which were football players.
2) She was not instructed to do this by anyone in the administration (again, this is what the NCAA has determined). She just did it for the players.
3) Mizzou found out that this was happening and immediately fired the tutor, suspended the players, and reported the incident to the NCAA.
4) Mizzou admitted that the violations happened and fully cooperated with the investigation.
5) The NCAA confirmed that the tutor was not directed to do these assignments by anyone in the administration.

The football players are all no longer at the school, as is the tutor. Now, you might ask, what should the school have done in this situation to avoid the bowl ban plus major recruiting restrictions? Well the NCAA gave a very helpful piece of advice:

Mizzou should've lied to the NCAA and refused to work with them. That is actually the NCAA's recommendation.



#116



BErt

Putting this here instead of NFL for rivaly reasons:

Way to hold that clipboard, Sparty!
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(I actually thought this was a very good tongue-in-cheek joke, but don’t tell them that.)


#117

jwhouk

jwhouk

They don't hold clipboards anymore. He held Brady's MicrosoftTM Surface.


#118

DarkAudit

DarkAudit

NCAA investigating God for improper gifts. Yeah, it's the Onion, but the NCAA can be that stupid for real.


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