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Do you think I could get the aclu to take my case?

#1

CrimsonSoul

CrimsonSoul

So depending on the Supreme Court decision on the whole gay marriage debacle and they rule against it do you think that the aclu would take up my car against doma on freedom of religion grounds. As a believer in the flying spaghetti monster my religion is being suppressed because the fsm believes that's is ok for gays or lesbians to marry.
Thank you for your opinions, may his noodly appendages ever be upon you and


#2

Charlie Don't Surf

Charlie Don't Surf

nah


#3

strawman

strawman

You would have to show that the law is preventing you from living according to your beliefs. If the FSM required you to marry a same sex partner as one of its core tenets, then you might possibly have a case.

You have a much harder time, though, given that pasatfrarianism is not a recognized religion in the US. I doubt even the ACLU would defend it as a religious order.

Generally in the US a religion must meet several of the following before the state will recognize it and treat it as a religion.

Anything that has at least a few of the following is legally recognized as a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization.

1. A distinct legal existence
2. A recognized creed and form of worship
3. A definite and distinct ecclesiastical government
4. A formal code of doctrine and discipline
5. A distinct religious history
6. A membership not associated with any other church or denomination
7. An organization of ordained ministers
8. Ordained ministers selected after completing prescribed studies
9. A literature of its own
10. Established places of worship
11. Regular congregations
12. Regular religious services
13. Sunday schools for religious instruction of the young
14. Schools for the preparation of its ministers.
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#4

bhamv3

bhamv3

The day Pastafarianism is treated like a real religion is the day it loses all value and relevance. It'd be like the movie Airplane! being seen as a documentary on in-flight food safety.


#5

phil

phil

Semi-on-topic

Isn't Jedi an official religion now?


#6

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

phil said:
Semi-on-topic

Isn't Jedi an official religion now?
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I'm ordained in it, and will be performing a wedding later in the year.


#7

phil

phil

Do you ever point to two people and marry them on the spot?

You two? BOOM! Married!

(That'll be 29.99)


#8

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

phil said:
Do you ever point to two people and marry them on the spot?

You two? BOOM! Married!

(That'll be 29.99)
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Not yet...:devil:


#9

bhamv3

bhamv3

Why would anyone want a Jedi wedding though? They never turn out well.

Anakin's? He ended up choking her half to death, and then she died for real in childbirth. And he got dismembered and burnt to a crisp.

Leia's? She and Han had to go through hell and back just to be able to marry each other, and then both of their sons die violent deaths. One of them was killed by their own daughter, in fact.

Luke's? He married an assassin who wanted to kill him, always a good start. She gets killed by Leia's son (the one eventually killed by his sister) and he goes on a rage-filled rampage.

Seriously man, the old Jedi Order had it right. Love and marriage are bad news for Jedi.


#10

Bubble181

Bubble181

True enough, but that's Jedi marrying, not Jedis ministering for others :p Let's do an experiment: we'll marry off two completely random* forum people, and see how it works out in, say, 60 years.

*drumroll*

General Specific and....

*more music, flashing lights*

dill616

Sorry folks, in the interest of Science and Religion, you two need to get hitched the Jedi way and stick around here for 60 more years.



*chosen by the completely innocent hand of a 4-year-old**

**not actually four years old or innocent


#11

Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

Those were reform Jedi, though. I'm an othodox Jedi. I'll be wearing a yarmulke and everything.


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