[Webcomic] PVP Discussion

Dave

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I. Despise. LolBat.

I. Despise. Kringus.

I. Will Skip. PvP. until. After. Christmas.
 

Espy

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#3
Yeah, I like lolbat as just one shot jokes. Kringus is... kind of meh as well.
 

figmentPez

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#4
I like both, and I'm really looking forward to this month of strips.
 
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#5
lolbat works best when he is just a one shot joke. As far as Kringus goes he is "alright" but nothing I want to read about all the time.
 

Gusto

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#6
Buhh.

If today's strip is any indication, the premises of both Kringus and Lolbat are both wearing thin.
 
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... which is a shame, because before this recent storyline I was thinking that PvP was having a bit of a revival.
 
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I do think lolbat is funny, and I think Kringus is funny. I don't expect this month to be SUPER funny, and it'll probably end up kind anti-climactic like last year, but the idea of lolbat rescuing Santa's brain in a jar is hilarious enough in concept to justify a week of strips that will probably be approximately as funny as PVP normally is.
 
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If you don't like lolbat, it stands to reason that whatever he shows up in is not going to be hilarious, either in concept OR execution. But I DO like lolbat and have thought just about every instance of him in the strip was funny. So the notion of him saving Santa's Brain in a Jar Which Has Been Stolen By a Cat (which is also hilarious in concept, even if not in execution) is even more hilarious in concept, even if not in execution.
 
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#13
I've never been a fan of the Kringus storyline. I felt Sluggy Freelance had a great story with Bun Bun vs Santa and eventually ran that into the ground. Then PVP launched Kringus storyline and by that time I was over the whole "let's battle Santa" thing.
 

North_Ranger

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I'm more cheesed off by the fact that he had to make LoLBat Butler's alter ego.

Butler. How I loved that character. He was like awesome in a can in a sea of mediocrity.

Until we learned his badass 'stache is fake and he spends his evening-offs dressing as a flying rodent in leotard.
 
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I wonder how much PVP hate is actual dislike and how much is fueled and/or magnified by being so unceremoniously dumped by Kurtz.

LOL Bat is silly. Kringus is silly. As aforementioned, great concepts just a little lacking in execution from time to time.
 
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Jiarn

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I wonder how much PVP hate is actual dislike and how much is fueled and/or magnified by being so unceremoniously dumped by Kurtz.

LOL Bat is silly. Kringus is silly. As aforementioned, great concepts just a little lacking in execution from time to time.
Both. It's a weak comic and he's an all around weak person.
 

North_Ranger

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I liked Kringus when he was just Scratch in a tree. Even when he first went toe-to-toe with that mall Santa, demanding that Santa give over his teleportation technology, I liked him. When all this junk about Christmas prophecy and "forbidden Christmas magic" started flying around, that's when I, personally, lost interest. Kringus was funny because it was about a cat in a Christmas tree with delusions of grandeur. Him being a serious villain to Santa... not so funny.

LoLBat... well, he was funny once or twice, with the introduction and the fight with silly villains. Nothing too grand, but good for a few laughs. I do, however, dislike him being an alter ego of Butler, a character I truly and thoroughly enjoyed in the past; a prim and proper British gentleman's gentleman, whose gentleman happens to be a suddenly-rich beer and vigeo games connoisseur (i.e. a couch potato). Somehow Butler having a secret life as a leotard-wearing, meme-spouting superhero doesn't fit. Granted, it's a nice reference to Batman's Alfred, but it's a bit too much. I'd like some deeper character to Butler's persona, but slapping him together with LoLBat... well, that just sounds like lazy writing. Like Scott couldn't be damned to make some manner of history for both characters, so he just decided they're one and the same.

My 1/50 of a dollar on the matter.
 
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I believe Scott (for good or for ill) when he said that lolBat was always supposed to be Butler, for year(s) before it was revealed. Doesn't make it any better or worse, but I don't think it was just slapped on. Asides, the whole point of an alter-ego is to be completely different, so that no one can track you.
 
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Chibibar

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I do like Butler. I'm ok with him being LOLBat.
I do like Scratch. I do like Kringus.

I hate the current arc of Santa + Lolbat vs Kringus.
 

figmentPez

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Kringus was funny because it was about a cat in a Christmas tree with delusions of grandeur. Him being a serious villain to Santa... not so funny.
Bingo! I think that unreality works much better as a punchline in PvP than it does a story arc. Jumping in the General Lee as the last panel? Awesome. A whole arc where Santa exists and Kringus has magical powers? *sigh* It looses the magic when it's continually present, especially when there's no contrast with "real life".
 
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#26
The Kringus stuff is just a tribute to old superhero comics (in this case, X-men, I think). It isn't meant to be funny, in my view. It does mean it probably has a limited audience, though. And Kurtz is probably most interested in just doing it for himself. *shrug*
 

Dave

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Obviously that image was hosted on Chaz's server. Personally, I think his retort is funny. Fa la la and all that.
 

Espy

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#28
Yeah, its just his way of saying he loves us. Awwwwwww... we love you to Chaz!

As to what MD was saying up there about this being for Scott... he said in his blog post its for "the people who buy stuff because its cat in a tree" or something like that. He basically said he knew people might be tired of it but there are people who buy stuff because of it and so he does it for them. I'm not passing judgment on that or anything, just saying.

Personally I think the arc is terribly mediocre.
 
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#29
Sorta mediocre, and teh Kurtz is late on top of everything else. It's almost 10:00 CST and there's still no new strip.
 

North_Ranger

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Kringlings? KRINGLINGS?! KRINGLINGS!!!!??? OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, THIS IS SO FUC-

*pops some chill pills*

Yeah, this is retarded... So very, very retarded.
 
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I really don't understand how you can be reading this storyline and have the Kringlings be the point where you go "SERIOUSLY??? WTF?? SO F@#$@#$% RETARDED!!!"

I mean, you've either accepted the ridiculousness of the story by now or you haven't. If you haven't, a) why are you still torturing yourself, b) what makes the Kringlings any more stupid than anything else?
 

Gusto

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#33
Cat fighting santa --> plausible
No see this is where you lost me.

As a one-off, back in like 2007, it was fine and even pretty funny/awesome. But three years later it has spiraled further and further into ridiculousness. And not even the novelty of "this is just what Scott does at Christmas" is enough of an explanation anymore.
 

Espy

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As a one-off, back in like 2007, it was fine and even pretty funny/awesome. But three years later it has spiraled further and further into ridiculousness. And not even the novelty of "this is just what Scott does at Christmas" is enough of an explanation anymore.
I'm with Gustavious.
 
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#35
Sorry, once we get to "cat has stolen Santa's brain in a jar, duelled him psychically to gain access to the ancient secrets of the twelve kingdoms of Christmas, and laid siege to the North Pole...." no, it really does not get more ridiculous than that. I cannot fathom how you can accept that as par for the course and then freak out when the secrets of the Twelve Kingdoms of Christmas... lead to secret powers that no one's seen before. Especially when the whole thing is so completely not intended to be taken seriously at all.
 
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