[Other] Super power science

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I thought Cyclops took a shot to the head parachuting out of the crashing plane that he thought his father died in.
Then again, there's been so many retcon's in the X-Verse *angels and demons spit* who knows anymore.
I think at some point, it was said to have been healed, but he still had some kind of mental block that kept him from controlling it.

Then again, it's been awhile since I read x-men comics, so who knows what the story is now.
 
On Wolverine's regeneration, how many calories would it take for him to heal that fast? I would assume a lot.
Wolverine's regeneration is pocket-universe based, with the matter coming from 'elsewhere'. He's regenerated from a single cell before, as ridiculous as that fucking is.

One of the Ultimate Iron Man's had an interesting regeneration power, with a body that was basically all stem cells that were constantly regenerating. This gave him a much higher metabolism, and required him to eat a lot, and in the event of a severed limb or other such catastrophic damage would require that he eat large amounts of protein to repair the damage.

This was how he managed to survive getting knocked around in that big iron suit.
 
Ravenpoe Pocket-universe based? Whaaaaaaaaaaa? Are there weaknesses to it?

I like Ultimate Iron Man's regeneration though, that makes sense to me. Kind-of like the Gourmet cells from Toriko.
 

GasBandit

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Wolverine's regeneration is pocket-universe based, with the matter coming from 'elsewhere'. He's regenerated from a single cell before, as ridiculous as that fucking is.
You want to talk ridiculous, they need to figure out what Wolverine's pants were made out of in X-Men 3, cause Phoenix was burning everything else off of him but the pants didn't even singe. They need to use that material to make heat shields for space shuttles.
 
You want to talk ridiculous, they need to figure out what Wolverine's pants were made out of in X-Men 3, cause Phoenix was burning everything else off of him but the pants didn't even singe. They need to use that material to make heat shields for space shuttles.
Or whatever pants the Hulk wears! He can wear some generally durable pants from time to time.
 
Pretty mediocre reviews at amazon.com though:

Amazon product

Hilariously, the author added his own "review" discussing the background of getting the book to print:

The story behind the book is probably more interesting than the book itself. For starters, let me tell you that Karen whatsername had nothing whatsoever to do with this book. Byron Preiss (recently deceased), the publisher, put her name on this because she is the WIFE of ROBERT SILVERBERG, famous SF author. He hoped that if he hired her as a copyeditor, Silverberg would look it over. Not only did Silverberg ignore it, so did she.

If this thing was copyedited, then why all the terrible typos?

This thing wasn't even SPELLCHECKED!

I rewrote this like, five times. Preiss took incomplete drafts from different rewrites of various chapters, and put them together OUT OF SEQUENCE so they contradict each other in places.

I have yet to receive complete payment after over FIVE YEARS.

Now that Byron is dead, I guess I will never get paid.

Well, it was nice to be able to say I wrote a book, but the unnerving experience of being screamed at by Byron's neurotic assistant editor who had never edited a book before, hardly made the task a joy. The result is so slapdash that I have never been able to open the covers and actually read it. GAD, there are so many TYPOS!

BYRON PREISS had a reputation and as soon I signed the contract and announced it to various zines and groups, other authors who had worked for Byron began to approach me to warn me about hiim.

So none of it came as a suprise. I KNEW what I was in for. But that didn't make it any more pleasant.

But...good things came of it, so it was well worth it. My nerves jangled for some time afterward, but that's life in the publishing biz in New York City. A real contest of egos. It is easy to face them down and I did so many times (all so childish) but it is so TRYING. It is a foolish way to do business. No adult should interact with another like a schoolyard bully.

I feel there is some good text in the book. Some very funny stuff. All the research I did on the characters was thrown out. The science is uneven because some chapters are, as I say, incomplete drafts. But I tried to write a lot of funny stuff. The editor felt it was unprofessional and kept cutting it out. I kept putting it in. After awhile I think he gave up. The editor was Byron's assistant, I think his name was Dwight. I've blocked him out. He was so shrill and brittle. Poor man. He must have been suffering the major brunt of forces above far more shrill than he. And he could NOT have been making much money. So he was trying to rush thru my little book as fast as possible because time was money. He had a dozen other projects that were on deadline and no time for me.

SO, if you want to be a writer, I warn you as I was warned--be prepared for everything I have described. It is a common story.

Not so bad in the scale of things. People are starving in Africa, the world is full of terrorists...In the scale of things.

Thanks for reading,

My best to you all,

=link
 
How can anyone who is invulnerable walk around normally? To be what is considered invulnerable you'd have to have a high molecular density or a force field of equal molecular density. If I had that much mass in that small a frame, I would break EVERYTHING! Supes must have took some mad training to handle his strength.

Edit: And that does look like a neat read.
 
Apparently NPR is running (I think sometime today, maybe? I dunno, it was on a twitter feed, there's only so many details you can fit in 140 characters) a special called Spider-math and Bat-physics; discussing exactly this topic.
 
How can anyone who is invulnerable walk around normally? To be what is considered invulnerable you'd have to have a high molecular density or a force field of equal molecular density. If I had that much mass in that small a frame, I would break EVERYTHING! Supes must have took some mad training to handle his strength.

Edit: And that does look like a neat read.
Superman's strength has been explained as imparting a kind of structural integrity/inertial dampening field over anything he's touching. This allows him to...

- Support large machines from a single, small point without ripping them in half (such as grabbing a falling crane by it's cable without having the cable snap)
- Grab a falling person without matching speed and direction (This is why Lois Lane doesn't shatter her spine every time Supes saves her)
- Support a fallen building without having the building collapse at other points
- Swinging around large objects (trees, pillars, columns, steel beams, etc) without having them snap in two.

In other words, Superman can do blatantly impossible things with his strength because he's literally holding things together just by touching them. I imagine his flight powers would allow him to reduce his effective weight as well.
 
Superman's strength has been explained as imparting a kind of structural integrity/inertial dampening field over anything he's touching. This allows him to...

- Support large machines from a single, small point without ripping them in half (such as grabbing a falling crane by it's cable without having the cable snap)
- Grab a falling person without matching speed and direction (This is why Lois Lane doesn't shatter her spine every time Supes saves her)
- Support a fallen building without having the building collapse at other points
- Swinging around large objects (trees, pillars, columns, steel beams, etc) without having them snap in two.

In other words, Superman can do blatantly impossible things with his strength because he's literally holding things together just by touching them. I imagine his flight powers would allow him to reduce his effective weight as well.
Even with that explanation, Kryptonian physiology baffles the hell out of me.

How about Golden Age Super man or the Kree? Their molecularly dense right? How would they control their mass?
 

GasBandit

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Superman's strength has been explained as imparting a kind of structural integrity/inertial dampening field over anything he's touching. This allows him to...

- Support large machines from a single, small point without ripping them in half (such as grabbing a falling crane by it's cable without having the cable snap)
- Grab a falling person without matching speed and direction (This is why Lois Lane doesn't shatter her spine every time Supes saves her)
- Support a fallen building without having the building collapse at other points
- Swinging around large objects (trees, pillars, columns, steel beams, etc) without having them snap in two.
... but wouldn't that make him unable to cause damage with his bare hands?
 
Superman's strength has been explained as imparting a kind of structural integrity/inertial dampening field over anything he's touching. This allows him to...

- Support large machines from a single, small point without ripping them in half (such as grabbing a falling crane by it's cable without having the cable snap)
- Grab a falling person without matching speed and direction (This is why Lois Lane doesn't shatter her spine every time Supes saves her)
- Support a fallen building without having the building collapse at other points
- Swinging around large objects (trees, pillars, columns, steel beams, etc) without having them snap in two.

In other words, Superman can do blatantly impossible things with his strength because he's literally holding things together just by touching them. I imagine his flight powers would allow him to reduce his effective weight as well.
This all pretty much came about in explaining Superboy's powers. I think it's a clever way to explain all the physically impossible stuff that Superman does.

Tactile Telekenesis is the term they use.
 
Must.... explain.... scientific... knowledge.... of.... comic.... book.... super.... powers.....

Who and why would bother explaining in scientific terms how super powers work? I mean for a fun discussion its great, but actually doing it in the comic books?
 
Even with that explanation, Kryptonian physiology baffles the hell out of me.

How about Golden Age Super man or the Kree? Their molecularly dense right? How would they control their mass?
Except Superman isn't dense, because the same thing that allows him to keep things together when he touches them is also what keeps HIM together when he's getting shot at. Bullets and explosions can't penetrate his skin because of the field, but he's still able to be knocked around by them. I'm guessing he's able to rip things apart ether because his field is stronger than the one he generates in things he holds or he's somehow actively willing it off.

He doesn't need to be dense because of the field. It's also why he doesn't suddenly start cracking pavement when under red light or kryptonite: the field is what makes him strong, not his muscles, so he clearly weighs roughly the same as a human of comparative size.

The only thing that confuses me about Kryptonian physiology is where does he get the energy to shoot his heat vision? Does he have an organ that allows him to transform his chemical energy (generates by his cells being exposed to yellow sunlight) into a light that focuses through his eyes to become a laser? If so, why did Kryptonian's develop this if they existed in an environment that wouldn't let them do this? It almost makes it seem like Kryptonians were developed as living weapons and then got dumped onto a planet lit by a red sun when they weren't needed anymore.
 
I would say that Superman himself could have been a genetic anomoly, but that doesn't explain why Zod and Supergirl have the same powers.
 
Kryptonian evolution vexes me to this day.
The only thing that confuses me about Kryptonian physiology is where does he get the energy to shoot his heat vision? Does he have an organ that allows him to transform his chemical energy (generates by his cells being exposed to yellow sunlight) into a light that focuses through his eyes to become a laser? If so, why did Kryptonian's develop this if they existed in an environment that wouldn't let them do this? It almost makes it seem like Kryptonians were developed as living weapons and then got dumped onto a planet lit by a red sun when they weren't needed anymore.
Now the explanation from what I've heard is that Kryptonians have evolved mass electromagnetic and radiation inside them. So the heat beams come from his own radioactive body. Though...if they are composed almost completely of radiation why does kryptonite weaken them? I could see make their powers go out of control but not weaken.
 
Okay, but WHY would they they develop such abilities? It's not like they can tap into these powers while under the red sun of Krypton, so unless it's just a random mutation that stuck around because it wasn't affecting them, I don't see why they'd have developed that.
 
Or maybe they were tapping into these powers, except under a red sun the effect was so weak it was negligible. Only under a yellow sun do the powers actually do any damage.

Maybe it's kinda like how our human bodies generate their own heat, right? But we've also got heat management measures. That's why we don't overheat when we step out into the sun. We absorb heat from the sun, but our bodies also get rid of the heat through sweating and stuff. But, generally speaking, we don't feel heat coming from other people, unless we're really close.

So maybe Kryptonians can, indeed, absorb some solar radiation and release it from their bodies, but the overall effect is as negligible as when we take in heat from the sun and sweat it off. Only when Kryptonians are exposed to a yellow sun do the powers get amped up.

I dunno, I'm just speculating here.
 
Okay, but WHY would they they develop such abilities? It's not like they can tap into these powers while under the red sun of Krypton, so unless it's just a random mutation that stuck around because it wasn't affecting them, I don't see why they'd have developed that.
Hey I'm not saying its not fucking ridiculous, I'm by what I know. To me Krypton shouldn't have evolved ANY form of life. Incredbly high gravity, too close to the step away from super nova son, massivley radioactive planetary core, its just deadly! Kryptonians go against all basis of scientific evolution and make absoutely no sense. I mean really, why would a a species evolve MICROSCOPIC VISION! I can buy heat beams for primordial flame making purposes, but micro-vision is a bit of a push. If they were magic, I would by it but no.
 
Ughhhhh Earth's sun is not yellow.
It's classified as a yellow dwarf. The light it emits is "white" simply by virtue of our human brain interpretting the combinations of its electromagnetic emissions as white.

If we lived under a more "yellow" sun we'd certainly define that as "white" and for all intents and purposes it would be.
 
Shape-shifting! This has always bothered me. How unstable would your body have to be in order to be able physically alter itself as quick as some of these guys do? Hell Richards invented unstable molecule dealies in order to deal with it.

Edit: Also, would any shape shifter have a "base-form"? I mean if something had the ability to shape change 0n a molecular level I don't see how it could ever go back to one hundred percent exactly like it was before.
 
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