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Dave

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I nuked Nick's thread. It's still there, but I won't restore it until his publisher says it's okay. I really, REALLY don't want him losing the deal because of us.

So let us know and the thread about NICK BEING A PUBLISHED AUTHOR!!!! will be back.
 

Dave

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Yes, but that thread had too much information and a link to the publisher letting them know he may have excitedly spilled the beans.
 
Hey, I agree; I stole checkerhat's suggestion and elaborated in a way that made him surely proud.

I'm just telling Nick what to do :p.
 
I heard back from him (man, he's quick).

He said no biggie about the Facebook post. I'm not going to push my luck, though. Just to stay on the safe side, we'll keep the other thread temporarily nuked for the moment.

But Dave? Once I'm given the green light? RELEASE THE KRAKEN!
 
I heard back from him (man, he's quick).

He said no biggie about the Facebook post. I'm not going to push my luck, though. Just to stay on the safe side, we'll keep the other thread temporarily nuked for the moment.

But Dave? Once I'm given the green light? RELEASE THE KRAKEN!
I have a bottle of it sitting on my fridge. Can't I just release it now?
 

Dave

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On a totally unrelated note, checkeredhat, I forgot how brilliantly wonderful your animation Sun Day was. I'm glad I clicked on your sig link again after so long.
 
Wait, so did you write an in-depth minute-by-minute account of what exactly happened on your prom night?

Because I'd read the fuck out of 50 shades of Guy.
 
Spoilering my tangent as I don't want it to detract from Nick's awesome news.
On a completely tangentical note, you know what really floors me about the Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey thing? It kind of shows how female culture is kind of shooting itself in the foot. It's not some oppressive man who is saying that women should be virginal, subservient and completely dependent on a man, it's a women authors. As a matter of fact, most men that I know find the books as offensive as one would think women should. Where has the feminism movement gone? AAAAAAAAAaaaand back on topic...
Congratulations, Nick!

I'll tell you the same thing I told Tin, don't forget us when you're all famous and on Letterman and stuff. (also, don't purge yourself from the boards like he apparently did, it gives me a sad :( )
 

North_Ranger

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Conga rats, Nick!

Also, Bowielee ...

It's possible that feminism is not going after the likes of 50 Shades of Grey because they fear a backlash from the masses of dipshi... I mean, the fans of books like that. So they go after acceptable targets: strip clubs and porn.
 
Let the derail continue, because this is worth discussing.

The popularity of those books suggests there's something current culture is failing at with a lot of women. Twilight fans are romance starved, Grey fans are sex starved. Feels like something is amiss when the disturbing relationships prominent in those books become desired.
 
Let the derail continue, because this is worth discussing.

The popularity of those books suggests there's something current culture is failing at with a lot of women. Twilight fans are romance starved, Grey fans are sex starved. Feels like something is amiss when the disturbing relationships prominent in those books become desired.
This turn of events isn't a mystery. Modern work practices have basically destroyed personal time and expendable income, so a lot of people don't have the energy or will to be as romantic or sexual as they wish. Combine this with an increasingly insular world view thanks to modern telecommunications and this feeling of isolation and unfulfillment is likely to grow. The current trend in literary books in just a symptom of these changes in culture.
 
This turn of events isn't a mystery. Modern work practices have basically destroyed personal time and expendable income, so a lot of people don't have the energy or will to be as romantic or sexual as they wish. Combine this with an increasingly insular world view thanks to modern telecommunications and this feeling of isolation and unfulfillment is likely to grow. The current trend in literary books in just a symptom of these changes in culture.
We're talking about works that aren't just about romance. I have no problem with pulp romance. The insidious things about them are that at their core, the message is that women can not be defined without men. That is some straight up self loathing. There's a section in the second book where Bella LITERALLY is unable to function without Edward. She passes out and goes into a coma. The subtext of accepting an abusive relationship is also terrible. Even the relationship with the Jacob character paints women as shallow waifs who will gladly chase after a man who will get her killed over someone who is supportive and always there for her. Quite frankly, I find the whole Twilight thing not just bad writing/movie making, but flat out destructive to its audience.
 
We're talking about works that aren't just about romance. I have no problem with pulp romance. The insidious things about them are that at their core, the message is that women can not be defined without men. That is some straight up self loathing. There's a section in the second book where Bella LITERALLY is unable to function without Edward. She passes out and goes into a coma. The subtext of accepting an abusive relationship is also terrible. Even the relationship with the Jacob character paints women as shallow waifs who will gladly chase after a man who will get her killed over someone who is supportive and always there for her. Quite frankly, I find the whole Twilight thing not just bad writing/movie making, but flat out destructive to its audience.
Fifty Shades isn't much better considering not only what this guy does with this girl, but his own past, and how that past was "fixed". All abuse shit.

The one thing I find funny (besides the terrible prose) are the moms who go "this is so racy!" and their internet-savvy teenage daughters snerk at them.
 
Bowielee said:
I'll tell you the same thing I told Tin, don't forget us when you're all famous and on Letterman and stuff. (also, don't purge yourself from the boards like he apparently did, it gives me a sad :( )
Wait, Tin purged himself from the boards?
 
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