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Cuyval Dar
Ok, so he enjoys the fact that only people who have a genuine interest in arguing politics on a regular basis post in his threads.
Ted Kennedy, dead at 77
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Much better said. Even I have grown tired of playing that game, though.
I think most people learned long ago to just ignore him. He is like the Mike Savage of the forums.
It was in the National Lampoon, and yes they did get sued. But it was Volkswagen that sued, not Kennedy.is that real?
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WolfOfOdin
Rest in peace, teddy. For all the bad, you did a lot of good too.
GasBandit
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No, more like if his father hadn't been an extremely successful prohibition bootlegger, we'd never have heard of him.Dave said:Quote:
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Son of a prohibition bootlegger
Sins of the father? Really? Weak, weak, weak.
Obviously he didn't learn that. He learned that he can always get forgiveness because of who he was born to.Quote:
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Harvard exam cheat
Yup. Expelled when he was a freshman. But readmitted later and finished distinguished. Imagine that. Someone cheating in college. Oh, and someone learning from their mistakes.
Strawman to what? Because nobody was saying he WASN'T a nepocrat? He was, after all... he tried to force that brainless twat Caroline on us, remember? But again, how is this a "straw man?" I don't think you're using that phrase correctly.Quote:
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Dedicated nepocrat
Strawman.
See above. I think you're saying straw man when you mean Ad Hominem.Quote:
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Coat-tail rider of JFK
Strawman the Sequel.
The guy walked back to his hotel and went to bed. Never thought to call the cops, or I dunno, an ambulance? For the woman he left to drown in his car? And of course, his family connections get him off the hook with a slap on the wrist.Quote:
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Hero of chappaquiddick
1969. Guy has an accident while driving drunk and panics. Gets charged & pays for it. Yes, I think the punishment was light. That's his fault how?
I didn't say "has a drink from time to time," I said DRUNK. As in habitually.Quote:
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Drunk
NOBODY in Washington drinks. Nobody. He's the only one.
Well, OK then.Quote:
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Enabler of rapists
Agree with you that he went overboard trying to protect his nephew from this.
Bipartisanship is part of what is wrong with the current political situation. And frankly, shame on Bush as well for that little piece of legislation as well. Bipartisanship is the enemy of our nation. If you had 5 men and a woman stranded on a desert island and a vote was passed to remove her right to consent, it would be called bipartisan.Quote:
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Cosponsor of No Child Left Behind
The bill proposed by Bush and voted overwhelmingly by both Democrats and Republicans in the Senate and House? That bill? Bad, Ted! Bad bipartisan guy!
See above again, and this is taken from a direct quote where Kennedy said that "we are engaged in a war against individualism" and he wasn't meaning that was a bad thing. What made it even more WTF-ish was he brought this up in a speech to congratulate the New England Patriots on their super bowl victory.Quote:
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Warrior against individualism
Strawman III - Rise of the GasBandit Idiocy!
Granted, our politicians serve us best when they can't get anything done, but that's not what I meant and you know itQuote:
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Sand in the political gears
*pfaw* You say that like it's a bad thing.
It's more than anybody else is bringing to illustrate the GOOD he did. What did he do in his 9 terms that was so grand? Specific examples please.
Dave
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I know. And it's cool until the personal attacks start. Not putting up with that any longer.I really didn't want the thread to go this direction
So is mod-speak in different colors now?
And does that mean that the thread graveyard is a place we can still keep posting and just be the rudest dudes in town?
And does that mean that the thread graveyard is a place we can still keep posting and just be the rudest dudes in town?
Dave
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Nope. That would be The Wretched Hive of Scum and Villainy.
All the more reason why the Politics forum should be in that section.
aranoid:I would absolutely understand if you did move it. I'm just sad we couldn't have one thread on a political figure dying that doesn't become a sad statement about how inconsiderate we are of other people.
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i dunno. I've always found insisting on forcing the general public to mourn a popular figure because that person was important a little thought policed. I mean, I'm a very liberal dem, and I don't really care that he died. Because you know, I didn't know him.
and his public life makes him a target for opponents. I think the idea of faked sympathy or mourning is a bit vomit-inducing.
and his public life makes him a target for opponents. I think the idea of faked sympathy or mourning is a bit vomit-inducing.
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Andromache
just because you don't want to, doesn't mean everyone should act the same way.
Please?
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Cuyval Dar
Please is generally used when you ask for something politely.
I think insulting a dead person is rude, but I also think folks go a bit over-board memorializing public figures.
I know I was upset by a professor that spew all sorts of hate (in class) when Reagan died. I think GB pushed it, too. However, getting into a flame war about whether a politician is or isn't a scumbag is folly anyway.
I know I was upset by a professor that spew all sorts of hate (in class) when Reagan died. I think GB pushed it, too. However, getting into a flame war about whether a politician is or isn't a scumbag is folly anyway.
Zappit
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Oh, boy. I remember the last time we had the "etiquette regarding death news" fight - it wasn't pretty.
I'm in the give 'em respect for the immediate future, but let the legacy define the deceased, but let the legacy define their place in the history books.
Yes, we all know about Chappaquiddick, but maybe the guy was really trying to make up for past sins. He did do good, being a champion of health care reform. And GB, if you want a more specific example, try this.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/26/littlest.refusenik.kennedy/index.html
Ya take the good with the bad, but it all gets remembered by someone.
I'm in the give 'em respect for the immediate future, but let the legacy define the deceased, but let the legacy define their place in the history books.
Yes, we all know about Chappaquiddick, but maybe the guy was really trying to make up for past sins. He did do good, being a champion of health care reform. And GB, if you want a more specific example, try this.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/26/littlest.refusenik.kennedy/index.html
Ya take the good with the bad, but it all gets remembered by someone.
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Twitch
Ahh, Eddie Izzard.
A nine term senator whose vote effected pretty much every federal law passed in the last forty years in some way is rather more important in terms of recognition than most joes off the street. That's my opinion anyway.
I wasn't meaning this death in particular I was just commenting how I feel about death in general.
I have to disagree with this. I provide reasoned arguments all the time but he doesn't want reasoned arguments, he wants to stir shit up a bit. You can tell by the glee in his posts when he snags a liberal frothing at the mouth. The frothier the better.
North_Ranger
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Never heard of him.
I was more taken by the news of Erkki Laine, a Finnish ice hockey legend, drowning just two days ago.
I was more taken by the news of Erkki Laine, a Finnish ice hockey legend, drowning just two days ago.
He fell through the ice?
North_Ranger
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It's summer, wiseguy.
Necronic
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Seriously. Celebrating someone's death is reprehensible except in rare circumstances (aka Hitler). It shows a disgusting side of humanity. I remember in college when Reagan died the local hippie house threw a party. I got really drunk and went there and started fights. Surprisingly, they were all pussies. Not sure where that story was going...
Oh yeah, even though I disagree with a lot of what Reagan did, he didn't deserve that. Very few people do. Like Hitler, and ironically Jesus (cause, you know, he died for our sins....)
yea but in Finland, so it was what? 30F?
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