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Ooh, this gives me an excuse to post one of my favourite clips from Adam Ruins Everything.
figmentPez
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figmentPez
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This is a pretty good and open read o nthe matter (though from a relatively modern traditionalist Islamic interpretation).
TLDR: According to the Quran the soul doesn't enter the fetus until the 120th day, so about 4 months. Before that, go right ahead for most reasons; afterwards it's usually acceptable but for more limited reasons (health of the mother, etc).
In some Muslim-dominated countries the right of choice may lean more towards the father than the mother, but it's still possible and somewhat available as a medical procedure. Yes, including Iran and Saudi Arabia.
GasBandit
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Judaism, in fact, mandates an abortion if the mother's life is at risk.
There's absolutely no telling how*this* SC might/could rule, but this does have far reaching implications. Do religious duties supercede local laws? In the case of the Sikh carrying their Kirpan (ceremonial dagger) there have been many cases where they are allowed to carry those even in areas where otherwise carrying blades is illegal. On the other hand, plenty of cases where Muslim women were not allowed to cover their face or body (in Europe).
A law which prohibits abortion in all cases goes against Jewish religious law, and thus violates their first amendment rights. But allowing people to disobey a specific law (and to be clear, not the RvW abolishment, but the state's laws in question at that moment) for religious reasons opens up a can of worms the size of... I dunno. Refusing to make a cake for religious reasons is OK, according to the right, so...really, I don't know. But "religion" is a ridiculous cause that should have no place in any sort of material legal system as far as I'm personally concerned. For good or for ill.
figmentPez
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I could have swore I posted this a couple years ago...but i couldn't find it.
When you have your bullet list of phrases ready but you forget to log into your governmental troll account.
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Honestly though, the rhetoric has gotten really bad. At CPAC they had a banner up saying "We're all domestic terrorists.", then after the FBI raid Steven Crowder said "War starts tomorrow." and later MTG said she supports "Civil War" and it's just going to get worst. These are the type of things that actually lead to a guy shooting up a school, church, or parade. We are failing by not snuffing out this shit out.
GasBandit
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Yeah. Free speech is free speech and all, but this has definitely crossed over into "shouting fire in a crowded theater" areas of "no, you can't do that, that's a criminal act that endangers public safety."
Will this lead to any action to correct the issues?
figmentPez
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As I've been saying for a while: Violence is their goal.
Anyone still want to deny this?
Most of them would probably settle for a peaceful, permanent transfer of power and money along with all people not meeting the proper criteria to take themselves out or accept a silent, subservient role.
figmentPez
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First, I don't think that's true. There are some who would accept that, but I think there are a lot more who want a display of power as proof of their new theocracy.
Second, I don't think any of them think that's actually an option. They don't think it will be possible to establish a permanent christofascist government in the US without violence, so they're planning to take power by force.
Well, duh. "all trans and gay people just leave and all black people and women go back to behaving like in the Good Old Days" isn't exactly gonna happen.
