Coronavirus Thread

GasBandit

GasBandit

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ScytheRexx said:
One thing that keeps pissing me off is those talking about how....


Dude, do you guys think when you get the flu and it kills you, you are literally dying from the flu all by itself? That's not how this works.

Lots of these types of illnesses, by their nature, hit the hardest on people that are already suffering some other compromised health situation, either due to disease, age, injury, etc. The flu (or in this case, COVID) can greatly increase chances of death for those people, and thus, yes, it's going to be counted if the COVID pushed the person into the red with their original illness. If I have an illness that gives me brittle bones and some bozo slams into my car at a hundred mile per hour, shattering me to splinters and blood, they are still going to consider my death by "car accident."

The logic of these people drive me crazy.
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When I hear that, I come back with, "because of insufficient testing, we've got something like 5 times the usual deaths from quote-unquote (making airquotes with my hands) pneumonia right now. It's COVID, just not being called that because they didn't get tested before they died."
 
ScytheRexx

ScytheRexx

GasBandit said:
When I hear that, I come back with, "because of insufficient testing, we've got something like 5 times the usual deaths from quote-unquote (making airquotes with my hands) pneumonia right now. It's COVID, just not being called that because they didn't get tested before they died."
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Have made that argument before, as the deaths even just in the state from things like pneumonia have tripled, but people like my stepdad just tell me the numbers are doctored or false. You can't win.

One other thing that annoys me these days is all the people bringing up how bad things are in California too.
"California is a blue state but is having just as many problems as Texas and Florida! How do you explain that libtard!?"
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As someone that has lived in both states (California my first 21 years, Texas the last 16) California is actually way more conservative then people give it credit for. My mother and stepdad are ridiculously conservative. My father is a little more centrist leaning conservative. My entire extended family minus a few outliers is conservative. We had just as many Republican governors as we had democratic ones in the last 50 years. One of those governors was Ronald fucking Reagan. It's the home state of One America News Network. You know, Trump's new favorite news channel.

Honestly, much like Texas usually being locked red when it's way more purple then people give it credit for, I always wondered why California was always so locked blue in the federal elections, but my only guess on that is people just took more notice of federal ones rather then state or local elections, and thus the much more numerous democratic voters in the cities just turn out enough to keep it blue.

This is why I have always blamed Trump for all this crap more then any of the governors (and I say this not being a huge fan of Abbot), because even state governments can only do so much with mandates on masks and group sizes, and laws to curb the spread. It won't fucking matter if half the population of your state ignores it or think's it's a hoax because of the president, and they will do their damned best to spread it to everyone else for that sweet, sweet "FREEDOM".
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

Work split people up into teams, teams which were never mixed in order to reduce the chance of contagion. They were not to have contact at work, outside of work, or anywhere that wasn't virtual (phone, text, etc). It was very effective. Once the statewide easing began in early July, we started to blend those teams back together. We still had more or less the same number of days off as we did before, but each day we might see a few faces we hadn't seen in a while and we got the chance to catch up on things, as well as a bit more variety in our schedules.

BUT it seems some of my coworkers just couldn't wait to hang out together, so while we were doing this slow, careful reintroduction of staff, about 10-20 of them (they won't give us exact numbers) got it into their heads to go meet up at a bar and hang out without masks and then of course one of them tests positive for CV not long after, so now the slow, careful reintroduction and reacclimation of staff is completely destroyed as we now have to rearrange coverage to make up for the over-a-dozen-or-so people who suddenly can't come in because they're being told to stay home and self-quarantine for two weeks because they couldn't follow simple fucking directions.

FUCKING.
HELL.

Anyway, yay me for being responsible and my (and the other responsible ones') reward for being responsible is to have our schedules shredded and rewoven so that there is adequate coverage without increasing any of our individual workloads too much.

Yaaayyyy...

--Patrick
 
Frank

Frank

A nurse friend of mine just posted a screed about how happy she is schools are reopening in the fall in Alberta, despite Covid spiking again hard after the reopening because, and I paraphrasingly quote "There are dangers everywhere, cars, etc. and they're just not good at distance learning and they've been pretty isolated because we don't really let them play with other kids." NO SHIT, BECAUSE OF THE FUCKING VIRUS THEY'RE GOING TO DEFINITELY BE EXPOSED TO AT SCHOOL. YOU'RE A FUCKING NURSE IN AN ICU, YOU'VE LITERALLY TALKED ABOUT HAVING TO TAKE CARE OF COVID PATIENTS. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

She's also a hardcore conservative UCP supporter despite everything they've done to decimate Alberta healthcare.

Albertans as a whole are fucking mentally ill.
 
WasabiPoptart

WasabiPoptart

55 cases today. The biggest spike we've had so far. 50 of them on Oahu.

Oh and a hurricane is headed toward us. Being a City & County employee means I might get called up to work at one of the emergency shelters. With people of varying status. And, no, I don't have a choice. :censored:
 
PatrThom

PatrThom

Wasn't there somewhere that was counting deaths from COVID-19 as "recovered" because technically being dead meant they didn't have the disease any longer? I seem to remember that.

--Patrick
 
HCGLNS

HCGLNS

PatrThom said:
Wasn't there somewhere that was counting deaths from COVID-19 as "recovered" because technically being dead meant they didn't have the disease any longer? I seem to remember that.

--Patrick
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They are really good at counting how many people die each year in the USA. They've been doing it for a long time and know how many people should die in a average year and month.

So far this year the USA is 300,000 deaths above the expected average of 1.4 million.
 
HCGLNS

HCGLNS

Just read an article that puts the population of the USA shrinking by 1,500,000 people this year due to covid19 related: deaths, immigration and birthrate.
 
evilmike

evilmike

HCGLNS said:
They are really good at counting how many people die each year in the USA. They've been doing it for a long time and know how many people should die in a average year and month.

So far this year the USA is 300,000 deaths above the expected average of 1.4 million.
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Could we get the source for this?

I'm not doubting the number. I just want to look at the data.

The New York Times is reporting excess death at roughly 176,000 from mid March to mid July.
 
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