Star Trek Discovery

and scantily clad women?!

And in the immortal words of our fallen comrade @GasBandit, "GET MORE NAKEDER! "
I'm guessing Empress Sato had something to do with the new dress code.

And that makes me wonder, how good is life extension in the mirror universe? Now that would be one hell of a call back.
 
I'm 99.5% sure that the Empror(ess) will be Georgiou. They practically set it up with her feelings seeing long-dead past crewmates, and having the Emperor send her personally to find Lorca.
 
I'm 99.5% sure that the Empror(ess) will be Georgiou. They practically set it up with her feelings seeing long-dead past crewmates, and having the Emperor send her personally to find Lorca.
Oh yeah, that's pretty good. But is the actress available even?



And why does cultural change only flow into the evil universe?
Well, since our heroes are pretty much near perfect as humans can get, there's not much to convince them to revert back to all the stuff humanity has overcome in it's history.
 
Last night was pretty good.

But nitpick. If this is the alternate universe where Emperor Hoshi had a ship hundreds of years from the future, shouldn't the current model ships be more advanced?
 
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But nitpick. If this is the alternate universe where Emperor Hoshi had a ship hundreds of years from the future, shouldn't the current model ships be more advanced?
Well, they didn't have it in Kirk's time, so that's more consistent with the original episode.

Of course, considering that they couldn't detect what was bombing the planet, how competitive and murerous terrans are, and how having a secret tech to give you an edge was also a thing originally, it makes sense that only the Emperor would keep the more advanced tech for themselves, as insurance.
 
Last night was pretty good.

But nitpick. If this is the alternate universe where Emperor Hoshi had a ship hundreds of years from the future, shouldn't the current model ships be more advanced?
I know that in the Star Trek Online timeline, this ship didn't get studied and replicated until post-2409. Said tech was one of the reasons for the Terran Empire to be an actual threat when it invaded alongside the other Temporal terrorists.

It could just be they don't have access to it right now or what @@Li3n said.
 
I know that in the Star Trek Online timeline, this ship didn't get studied and replicated until post-2409. Said tech was one of the reasons for the Terran Empire to be an actual threat when it invaded alongside the other Temporal terrorists.
Wait, what? How would it help them to have a Kirk-time vessel's tech in a post-Picard time-frame?
 
Wait, what? How would it help them to have a Kirk-time vessel's tech in a post-Picard time-frame?
Time bullshit, I assure. Again, it's the Temporal War... I couldn't even begin to explain why it matters and it really doesn't in the long run, because the Temporal War arc is over for the time being thanks to the flare up of war with the Tzenkethi.

All I know is that it has more than Kirk era tech onboard when the Terrans got it.
 
Time bullshit, I assure. Again, it's the Temporal War... I couldn't even begin to explain why it matters and it really doesn't in the long run, because the Temporal War arc is over for the time being thanks to the flare up of war with the Tzenkethi.

All I know is that it has more than Kirk era tech onboard when the Terrans got it.
Having looked it up a bit, are you sure you're not thinking of the DS9 Defiant: https://sto.gamepedia.com/I.S.S._Defiant
 
Having looked it up a bit, are you sure you're not thinking of the DS9 Defiant: https://sto.gamepedia.com/I.S.S._Defiant
Nope, as that article clearly states that it's not part of the current story of STO. They did a massive reworking of the story and missions a few years back and a shit ton of boring content was just cut and made uncanon in the process. The current Terran Invasion is being lead by Admiral Lita (yes, THAT Lita but the Mirror version) on the I.S.S. Enterprise, who basically went rogue after the final battle of the Temporal War arc with forces loyal to her.

Alright, I went back and read the Lita reports from the Terran Task Force stuff in STO... apparently Hoshi DID use the tech from the Kirk era ship to keep the throne. The stuff Lita got was from the Nakuul and other temporal allies, explicitly to fight the Temporal Alliance. Then Lita did a bunch of other stuff and now players have to deal with it in the Badlands.
 
I was asking if you're not confusing it with the fact that in DS9 the Terran Empire was gone, and only could go back to existing after they defeated Regent Worf by using the stolen Defiant plans from the regular universe. And since that's stuff from teh shows (as is mirror Emperor Hoshi, which even got confirmed by Discovery), the game can't make it non-canon etc.
 
I was asking if you're not confusing it with the fact that in DS9 the Terran Empire was gone, and only could go back to existing after they defeated Regent Worf by using the stolen Defiant plans from the regular universe. And since that's stuff from teh shows (as is mirror Emperor Hoshi, which even got confirmed by Discovery), the game can't make it non-canon etc.
Ahh... then yeah. The Terran Empire reestablished itself from Terok Nor using the I.S.S. Defiant technology, occupying Bajor and more. The Klingons are ether allies or the Terrans are using their seized equipment, it's not clear which. It's implied that Smiley O'Brien's son James is the current Emperor as of 2409.
 
Well, the obvious happened. I know people calling it a twist, but I mean, they've been laying that card on the table nearly since the beginning of the show. I'm looking forward to how this plays out.

I want a model of the Emperor's Palace.
 
Well, the obvious happened. I know people calling it a twist, but I mean, they've been laying that card on the table nearly since the beginning of the show. I'm looking forward to how this plays out.
Seriously, you trying to tell me you saw this exact thing coming?

Especially since this was advertised as a more grim dark Star Trek, him being more ruthless then the regular federation citizen wasn't exactly unexpected, and of course there was always the possibility of a fall... but this reveal wasn't a fall, since he was always worse then all the stuff he did before would imply.
 
Seriously, you trying to tell me you saw this exact thing coming?

Especially since this was advertised as a more grim dark Star Trek, him being more ruthless then the regular federation citizen wasn't exactly unexpected, and of course there was always the possibility of a fall... but this reveal wasn't a fall, since he was always worse then all the stuff he did before would imply.
The Admiral said she didn't even recognize who he was anymore. He knew exactly how to get to the parallel universe. He was acting like a mirror universe character the whole time, being nasty and ruthless in a way we've really never seen, gritty Star Trek or not. I didn't really feel like Lorca being the mirror Lorca was a shock.
 
The Admiral said she didn't even recognize who he was anymore. He knew exactly how to get to the parallel universe. He was acting like a mirror universe character the whole time, being nasty and ruthless in a way we've really never seen, gritty Star Trek or not. I didn't really feel like Lorca being the mirror Lorca was a shock.
Yeah, it was certainly well foreshadowed, but that's not the same as it being expected.

I mean c'mon, who expected a Mirror Universe episode so early, let alone it being all a major arc from the get go. It's one of those great reveals that make you go "of course, makes perfect sense", while not actually seeing it coming.

...

Also, it just dawned on me that, with his access, he might know about the Klingon War and how it ended, based on the data they retrieved from the Defiant, which only disappearance after, so there's a lot of room for them to take the story in... Hell, even the Emperor knowing stuff would work.
 
The Admiral said she didn't even recognize who he was anymore. He knew exactly how to get to the parallel universe. He was acting like a mirror universe character the whole time, being nasty and ruthless in a way we've really never seen, gritty Star Trek or not. I didn't really feel like Lorca being the mirror Lorca was a shock.
He shaved his beard!
 
It's a bit sad that they haven't yet had any episodes of "Code of Honor" calibre.

Hopefully they get to that point in season 2
 
It's a bit sad that they haven't yet had any episodes of "Code of Honor" calibre.
Hopefully they get to that point in season 2
I'm looking for something on the order of "Starship Mine." It brought the funnehs AND the drama.

--Patrick
 
So, my main gripe is the spore drive and the spore network and how forcey it is. Stammets even has a use the force moment with force ghost doctor.

I'm pretty over the spore drive.

Also, that we never got to meet MU Captain Killy. I really wanted to meet Captain Killy.
 
I have been wondering at what point the spore network would be removed as a mode of transportation.

At first I thought it was going to be destroyed in some fashion, but they integrated it so firmly into the functioning of the universe that it seems to destroy the network would be to end all things.
So I guess whatever they do will leave it inaccessible but intact.
 
I have been wondering at what point the spore network would be removed as a mode of transportation.

At first I thought it was going to be destroyed in some fashion, but they integrated it so firmly into the functioning of the universe that it seems to destroy the network would be to end all things.
So I guess whatever they do will leave it inaccessible but intact.
I think it will end up being sentient and it will make itself inaccessible somehow.
 
I have been wondering at what point the spore network would be removed as a mode of transportation.

At first I thought it was going to be destroyed in some fashion, but they integrated it so firmly into the functioning of the universe that it seems to destroy the network would be to end all things.
So I guess whatever they do will leave it inaccessible but intact.
I am almost certain they've kept the concept around so they can get cameos from other series or have some interaction with the Kelvin timeline.
 
I hate 80% of this season.

That bullshit attempted emotional manipulation with Saru where they spent 50% of an episode with a FUN and INTERESTING Star Trekky idea in LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG boring conversations between Saru and Burnam about death and they follow it up by making death even more meaningless in the next fucking episode by magically resurrecting Culber? JESUS CHRIST. Take a fucking breath between this bullshit.

I hate you Alex Kurtzman and I'm putting the blame for this shittiness square on your talentless fucking shoulders. HOW DO THESE FUCKING GUYS KEEP FAILING UPWARDS SO HARD?
 
I liked section 31 until they made everyone and their police dog cuddles know about it.
I hated the idea of Section 31 in DS9 because it felt like a conspiracy with unlimited reach in a society that would have rejected it. We already had the Maquis, we didn't need these guys... just make them Maquis infilitraters and be done with it. At least in Discovery it makes more sense; it's an active intelligence division and the reason why it's not (openly) around anymore is probably going to become apparent as the season goes on.

I feel like I'd be more okay with the Culber stuff if this week's episode (apparently about Suru's home planet) had taken place before THAT one and Culber didn't come back until later in the season.

Still enjoy Tilly. She's seen more shit than most captains at this point and barely complains about it at all.
 
There's no way THE RED ANGEL pays off in any way other than a terrible, long fart.

I fucking hate it.

That Saru episode was fat, hot garbage and Deus Ex Red Angel can fuck right off.

I defended you through season one Discovery, why gotta do this to me?
 
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