Gas Bandit's Political Thread V: The Vampire Likes Bats

Dave

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That stormer website that was shut down because they are nazi fuckwits? Yeah, they are back...using an ru suffix.

You read that right. They were kicked off of GoDaddy so they now have a RUSSIAN suffix website.
 
It wasn't one flag among many, though. The battle flag (and, consequently, any other flag with it as a device) was the Confederacy's main symbol from what I've read (your earlier Wikipedia link did not dispel this notion).
You should look closer at the wiki article. Hint: the white parts are part f the flags there.

The ones used now is only an element in most of those flags.

It would be like in the future someone would use just the stars part of the star spangled banner as a symbol for "ol'timey USA".



Turns out it was from last november.

So, according to poles on reddit, that picture is actually from a local fascist group... guess they just prefer local instead of german nazism... which kind of makes sense, since it is supposed to be about your nations people being better then others.[DOUBLEPOST=1502912725,1502912579][/DOUBLEPOST]
That stormer website that was shut down because they are nazi fuckwits? Yeah, they are back...using an ru suffix.

You read that right. They were kicked off of GoDaddy so they now have a RUSSIAN suffix website.

NO ONE SAW THAT COMING AT ALL....

GRU/NKVD/KGB still got it, baby...
 

GasBandit

Staff member
So, according to poles on reddit, that picture is actually from a local fascist group... guess they just prefer local instead of german nazism... which kind of makes sense, since it is supposed to be about your nations people being better then others.[DOUBLEPOST=1502912725,1502912579][/DOUBLEPOST]
Can you link me that? I'd like to read about it.
 


You should look closer at the wiki article. Hint: the white parts are part f the flags there.

The ones used now is only an element in most of those flags.

It would be like in the future someone would use just the stars part of the star spangled banner as a symbol for "ol'timey USA".
You should look closer at my post and notice the "any other flag with it as a device". Hint: my point remains the same.

Your analogy is wrong, as the device is rendered in its entirety when embedded in other flags. Very related: have you heard of the Union Jack?
 
Very related: have you heard of the Union Jack?
Oh, you mean the one that's a complete opposite situation, where they made one flag out of many, to try and force unity, instead of taking an element of a flag (that was used as a battle standard at the time) and applying it to the whole Confederacy?

I mean look:



While the confederate flag would be the other way around.[DOUBLEPOST=1502914499,1502914422][/DOUBLEPOST]
Can you link me that? I'd like to read about it.
I close the thread, and my history is full of HFnow, but just look for the picture on reddit, plenty of comments.

Apparently it was the green flag that gave it away: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Revival_of_Poland
 
Oh, you mean the one that's a complete opposite situation, where they made one flag out of many, to try and force unity, instead of taking an element of a flag (that was used as a battle standard at the time) and applying it to the whole Confederacy?

I mean look:



While the confederate flag would be the other way around.
No, I mean as in it's use as a device in other flags, which is a direct parallel to the use of the Confederate device in other flags. There's a wealth of other examples in heraldry and vexillology, but I would have thought this one was most commonly known.
 
No, I mean as in it's use as a device in other flags, which is a direct parallel to the use of the Confederate device in other flags. There's a wealth of other examples in heraldry and vexillology, but I would have thought this one was most commonly known.
Almost all of the additions of the confederate flag to the state flags in the Deep South were in response to the Civil Rights Era. A legislated "go fuck yourself" to the likes of the NAACP.
 
Almost all of the additions of the confederate flag to the state flags in the Deep South were in response to the Civil Rights Era. A legislated "go fuck yourself" to the likes of the NAACP.
That's not what we're referencing (but rather uses of the Confederate flag as a device in other C.S.A. flags contemporary to it), but good to know and another good example.
 
No, I mean as in it's use as a device in other flags, which is a direct parallel to the use of the Confederate device in other flags. There's a wealth of other examples in heraldry and vexillology, but I would have thought this one was most commonly known.
Oh, ok.

But that's still the complete opposite, since, you know, they where using an existing flag to make new ones, to show subservience, when the current Confederate flag uses an element from the actual ones used by the Confederacy as the whole flag.
 
Oh, ok.

But that's still the complete opposite, since, you know, they where using an existing flag to make new ones, to show subservience, when the current Confederate flag uses an element from the actual ones used by the Confederacy as the whole flag.
I'll point again to the context of why the battle flag appears as a device in all those C.S.A. flags. It was a very popular flag (at the time) on its own, and thus a valid symbol to use as short-hand. If it was hidden, transformed, or lumped up (like, say, Saint George's Cross in the Union Jack and all the derived flags, or a quarter of Spain's coat of arms) then I'd understand not seeing it as representative of the whole, but that's not the case here.
 
Of equal importance, can the Public fire private employers?
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The article said:
[The business owner], has seen a barrage of message shares on Facebook, in which he is called a racist, a Nazi and/or a white supremacist. Those began at about 6 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 15, and involve two images that he had posted on his personal Facebook account in 2011, he said. One shows him throwing up a Nazi salute and another shows him with a Nazi swastika finger-painted on his forehead. He said the first was done in humor and the second was Photoshopped, but also done in humor. [...] He said the pictures were taken six years ago during a tailgate party before a University of Notre Dame football game in South Bend, Ind. He said he has a wry sense of humor and is sometimes not politically correct.
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The article was originally, "...may be forced to close," but it seems the guy has otherwise been being a jerk to his wholesalers, employees, etc., so this was probably enough that people were just finally done with him.

--Patrick
 
I'll point again to the context of why the battle flag appears as a device in all those C.S.A. flags. It was a very popular flag (at the time) on its own, and thus a valid symbol to use as short-hand.
Ok, so looking around some more, it seems the flag design actually lost to the original CSA one, and, months later, then was adopted as a battle flag by Lee, which is why it was incorporated in the 2nd flag.

And i wasn't saying it wasn't a valid symbol, but that the reason why it's THE SYMBOL is because it was preferred by post-civil-war racists in comparison with the actual official flags of the Confederacy. And they're the ones that gave it it's current shape, as opposed to the square one that was used as a battle flag.
 
Cable channel that supports fascism proposes giving up rights, details at 10:00.[DOUBLEPOST=1503064481,1503064042][/DOUBLEPOST]Please listen to Thursday's NPR Politics podcast. It highlights the false equivalence which is made between the alt right and the counter protestors.
 
Cable channel that supports fascism proposes giving up rights, details at 10:00.
Haha, remember the good ole days when they screamed that Obama was going to take all our guns and establish himself for a third term through "false flag" operations like Sandy Hook until he was literally ruling us? Ah the memories.... the wonderful memories... :dumb:

Good to know their opinions can change so much when it's a different guy willing to keep out those brown people.

BTW I really love David Wong. He always has an interesting perspective on events like these since he lived both sides of the coin.
 
A lot of good points, but I don't think he realizes how at least one of his points cuts both ways:
If you haven't built anything you can be proud of -- be it a house, career, family, or loving circle of friends -- then you need to draw your pride from somewhere. Hate groups let you set the pride bar so low that you can swell with pride over the fact that you woke up this morning with a certain color skin and heterosexual urges, as if both were the result of diligent effort on your part. Imagine eating a delicious cheeseburger and congratulating yourself for having accomplished your noble goal of not being vegan.
Replace "heterosexual" with "homosexual" and "cheeseburger" with "veggie burger" and "vegan" with "carnivore" and you have a virtue-signalling SJW. It's exactly the fucking same but from the other side of politics. People with no grounded accomplishments latch onto whatever they can, no matter how shallow, and anybody telling them that their "identity" is meaningless will be met with hate.

Hence why Identity Politics from either side is completely stupid. Recognize and fight racism, sexism, etc, but when you define yourself or your opponent by being in an identifiable group (they're good/bad because they're white/black man/woman (flip any term either way) ), there's problems.
 
A lot of good points, but I don't think he realizes how at least one of his points cuts both ways:

Replace "heterosexual" with "homosexual" and "cheeseburger" with "veggie burger" and "vegan" with "carnivore" and you have a virtue-signalling SJW. It's exactly the fucking same but from the other side of politics. People with no grounded accomplishments latch onto whatever they can, no matter how shallow, and anybody telling them that their "identity" is meaningless will be met with hate.

Hence why Identity Politics from either side is completely stupid. Recognize and fight racism, sexism, etc, but when you define yourself or your opponent by being in an identifiable group (they're good/bad because they're white/black man/woman (flip any term either way) ), there's problems.
I identify my opponents by them being in the group "Users with a member number starting with 1". That's OK, right?
 
I identify my opponents by them being in the group "Users with a member number starting with 1". That's OK, right?
If you have to group people, identify them by what they say or do, not what they are born with.


And +1 funny for both yourself, me, and a number of others here being in that group, but hardly everybody who's responded so far.
 
This is how I identify you:

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Damn, Bubble looks delicious.


A lot of good points, but I don't think he realizes how at least one of his points cuts both ways:

Replace "heterosexual" with "homosexual" and "cheeseburger" with "veggie burger" and "vegan" with "carnivore" and you have a virtue-signalling SJW. It's exactly the fucking same but from the other side of politics. People with no grounded accomplishments latch onto whatever they can, no matter how shallow, and anybody telling them that their "identity" is meaningless will be met with hate.

Hence why Identity Politics from either side is completely stupid. Recognize and fight racism, sexism, etc, but when you define yourself or your opponent by being in an identifiable group (they're good/bad because they're white/black man/woman (flip any term either way) ), there's problems.
Yeah, i mean, remember when heterosexuality was an official mental disease up until the 80s?

Contexts? Who needs that? That's why White Pride and Gay Pride are just "exactly the fucking same but from the other side of politics."
 
Yeah, i mean, remember when heterosexuality was an official mental disease up until the 80s?

Contexts? Who needs that? That's why White Pride and Gay Pride are just "exactly the fucking same but from the other side of politics."
I didn't say you could flip words in EVERY EXAMPLE and they are the same, I said THAT ONE.
 
I didn't say you could flip words in EVERY EXAMPLE and they are the same, I said THAT ONE.
The thing I don't get is that the article had nothing to do with that, so why are you trying to bring it up? David Wong was talking about "Hate Groups".

It reminds me of Trump's comments, "There were bad people on many sides", which creates a false equivalency between counter-protestors and literal white supremacists. Was Trump "factually" correct? Yes probably. Does that matter? Not really, because one side was literally hate spewing Nazi's yelling "Jews will not replace us." and "Blood and Soil", they are enemies of what we stand for as a diverse nation. If one black dude got super pissed and brought a baseball bat, we can sort of forgive his rage, as long as he does not actually use it to beat someone to death, then he is prosecuted all the same.

Yes, some people take it too far the other way, but even those groups are mostly despised by the average american. How many people do you see not rolling their eyes any time PETA appears in the news? At least PETA has not rolled over people with a car at a pig roast though, so I still wouldn't even equate them to literal Neo-Nazis.
 


Remember, the Rebel Media, which has "NOTHING" to do with the alt-right, employs this white nationalist asshole. King of the alt-knights.
 
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