[News] Brexit

Dave

Staff member
Disagree all you want, but without a basis in critical thinking (and possibly some underpinnings of economics), all you rely on is the media. And the uneducated tend to use sites like Fox News for their opinions.
 
I thought the media was run by people WITH degrees. Which means.....people who rely on the media are relying on people with degrees to give them their information but it's unreliable because the people who rely on it are people without degrees. The conclusion is you cannot trust people with degrees.


:wololo:
 
Actually, I'm disagreeing because nobody understands politics and economics. It's all just an assortment of guesses, with one random person turning out to be right. Maybe. Sometimes we have to a wait until everybody buys another ticket before there's a winner.
 
Disagree all you want, but without a basis in critical thinking (and possibly some underpinnings of economics), all you rely on is the media. And the uneducated tend to use sites like Fox News for their opinions.
You should be aware..I don't have a degree. And I know plenty of people who have one that watch Fox News. I'm pretty sure that having a degree or not is less of an indicator than, say, geographic location and upbringing.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
I've made some pretty wild blanket statements in my time, but saying everybody without a degree is guaranteed ignorant is waaaaay out there.
 

Dave

Staff member
I've made some pretty wild blanket statements in my time, but saying everybody without a degree is guaranteed ignorant is waaaaay out there.
Okay I tried to use your words and turn them around. Let me clarify. If you don't have any underpinnings of education in economics, it's extremely difficult to gain any meaningful insight to macro- and micro-economics. That isn't to say that you can't, just that those who do not have education tend to look more at sound-bytes and very slanted "feelings-based" economics from suspect sources. Yes, like Fox News.

(I should never post while sitting in meetings. I tend to be succinct to the point of incomprehensibility.)
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Okay I tried to use your words and turn them around. Let me clarify. If you don't have any underpinnings of education in economics, it's extremely difficult to gain any meaningful insight to macro- and micro-economics. That isn't to say that you can't, just that those who do not have education tend to look more at sound-bytes and very slanted "feelings-based" economics from suspect sources. Yes, like Fox News.

(I should never post while sitting in meetings. I tend to be succinct to the point of incomprehensibility.)
I know plenty of people with humanities and STEM degrees (so it's not just liberal arts majors!) who are just as ignorant about economics and world politics as any yokel dropout you could name, and you're still painting with a reeeeeally broad brush there, pilgrim.

Also, education doesn't cure confirmation bias.
 
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Dave

Staff member
yeah um. it's a little classist to people that can't afford school. And also with the low barrier to all the information on the internet...
Yeah, there's a low barrier for information. How much of it is good or accurate? It's the three pillars rule: easy to access, good information, easy to understand. Pick 2.

And I work in an open admissions university. Anyone with any grades can go here. We have the poorest of the poor and those in the 1% who go here. Yeah, books and loans can be a barrier of entry, but we work with everyone. I'm also on several scholarship committees to try and help people out. So not elitist at all. I just find that way, WAY too many people get their information from sources that are suspect. Like (again) Fox news or Facebook.
 

GasBandit

Staff member
Saw an interesting post about Brexit... "Boy, those people who didn't vote the way I wanted them to after I spent months calling them racists sure are retarded!"
 
So. after todays fucking insanity, with god knows how much money wiped off the uk markets, and mas uncertainty to follow.

Cameron has announced his resignation in october, he won't be pushing the button on article 50, because he's too much of a fucking coward to do the deed himself. the next prime minister is all but guaranteed to be Boris Johnson. god help us all. farage is just sitting back with his pint and cackling like the fascist fucksponge that he is. jeremy corbyn, leader of the opposition, was next to useless during the referendum, and faces a vote of no confidence too.

Boris wants a 'slow and careful' exit, and isn't rushing to push the button. The EU however, rather understandably, is telling him 'fuck you, do it ASAP', because in order to stamp out any chain reactions of this kind of shit, they have to make an example of the UK. soooo... we're probably fucked further. "trade deal like turkey gets" is being thrown around at this precise moment, which is ironic, given the panic about turkey joining the EU got us into this mess.

I have no idea what this going to do for my job-hunting, as a recession in a rapidly collapsing country is not the best place to start a job in the games industry. :(

scotland will leave the UK almost inevitably now.

and IAN PAISLEY of all people, IAN FUCKING PAISLEY

IS TELLING NORTHERN IRELAND PEOPLE TO GET AN IRISH PASSPORT IF THEY CAN.
which might be the most insane piece of news I've seen today.
 
If shit gets bleak for you, would emigrating to Israel be an option? IIRC they help you relocate, and they do have a tech industry.
 


That was fast. Farage admits one day after the votes that he can't actually guarantee the 350 million (a wrong number anyway) will go into the National Healthcare Service.
 

Dave

Staff member
The best line I heard about the whole thing was on NPR and it was not a line that was said on purpose. They were talking about France leaving and they called it "Frexit". They then asked the German they had on the panel if they would ever leave and the person said, "No, there will be no "Gerxit". The NPR correspondent said, "Because the name would be horrible!" Then they giggled.

It doesn't translate into text, I guess, but they pronounced it like "Jerks it."
 
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