Christmas 2015

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blotsfan said:
I'd say pointing out the awfule messages in Rudolph and Baby its Cold Outside are practically a christmas tradition now.
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There are some pretty good essays on how baby it's cold outside is a mutual discussion about sex within the socially acceptable parlance of the time. Like she's giving all the required protestations but she's not really interested in leaving. After all, she keeps coming up with excuses. For example "what's in this drink" is supposedly a contemporary excuse for just having to go lie down in a mans quarters, and not a roofie/mickie reference. Etc.
 
Ravenpoe

Ravenpoe

drawn_inward said:
Hank would be horrified by all those Ho's.
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There are some pretty good essays on how baby it's cold outside is a mutual discussion about sex within the socially acceptable parlance of the time. Like she's giving all the required protestations but she's not really interested in leaving. After all, she keeps coming up with excuses. For example "what's in this drink" is supposedly a contemporary excuse for just having to go lie down in a mans quarters, and not a roofie/mickie reference. Etc.
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I actually often wonder if that old and now antiquated cultural bias that women were not allowed to act interested in sex (lest they appear as some sort of hussy) is why there is such a problem now with "rape culture."
 
Dei

Dei

Just put all of Pentatonix's Christmas music on my phone. Time to drive my husband mad as his love of Pentatonix wars with his dislike of Christmas music.
 
DarkAudit

DarkAudit

I was at a loss how I was going to equal my friend's springing for Steeler tix last week, then I saw this...
For him, it's perfect. :)
 
phil

phil

We celebrated today since my brother/sister in law/nephew will be in El Paso on the 25th.

I got my brother a drone. He let me fly it and of course it's in a neighbors yard now. Those suckers can really move! Hopefully they aren't out of town.
 
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blotsfan said:
I've always felt the whole Santa Claus thing was weird.
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My younger sister never did Santa with her kids, and until yesterday, I thought it was due to the religious phase she was going through at the time. Nope. Found out she just thought it was too much work. Which surprises me far less.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

Remember, kids, Santa is a time traveler. That's how he gets to everyone.


As for Christmas specials:

We watched Rudolph. It's really hard to hate that movie, but Santa is a dick. Then again, I can't blame him for not eating when his food was made from the same clay as the table and dishes.

Also watched Jack Frost (Rankin/Bass, not Michael Keaton). I legitimately enjoy this one, it's my favorite for its fairy tale aspects, but it's still really dumb. I also forgot it was a Groundhog's Day special. Also, "snow gypsies."

We tried to watch Rudolph and Frosty's Christmas in July--the opening to which is hilarious because the epic level music treats this like the crossover of the century--but while I remembered how bad it is, I did not realize it was 97 minutes long. No. Just, no. That's time my wife could be playing Fallout 4.

I think that's about it for Christmas specials. Might watch Die Hard, and then Christmas Eve it's time for (yay!) Muppet Christmas Carol, which I can't wait to watch again.
 
Covar

Covar

WasabiPoptart said:
We watched Charlie Brown Christmas and The Polar Express yesterday.

I made a half joking comment on Facebook last year or the year before about messages in Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer that don't translate well in today's way of thinking. One of my older cousins told me I needed to stop being an ass.
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I avoid Tumblr, what's bad about Rudolph?
 
Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

So, Amazon wrote me today and said, basically, "Hey, you know that gift you ordered for your son a week ago, and we said if you ordered now, it'd be here before christmas? Well, we're out of stock. So tough luck. Even though we said it was in stock when you ordered it. But you can cancel your order and reorder from one of our other sellers (which we fulfill, so we really do have them in stock) for a 50% markup"

Fuck you amazon. Give me my 1 month extension on Amazon Prime. I'll go get it from Books A Million, where they have it on the shelves for the standard price.

Anyway, I tried to avoid the malls this year, but Christmas shopping is finally done.
 
WasabiPoptart

WasabiPoptart

Covar said:
I avoid Tumblr, what's bad about Rudolph?
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I don't go on Tumblr either.
However, Rudolph has some real issues with sexism, e.g: Clarisse and Mrs. Donner are essentially told to obey their men when they have opinions (in that one whole line Mrs. Donner has). There is also the stereotypically overbearing Mrs. Claus hen-pecking her husband.
There is the message that if you're different in some way then you're worthless, which could also translate to being made fun of for a disability in Rudolph's case and some of the misfit toys (I still don't know what's wrong with that doll and I had a polka dot elephant as a kid, so nothing wrong there either). Hermie is also trying to better himself by entering into a profession, but he is shamed for wanting to rise above his station.
Also, Santa is not jolly. He's an asshole.
 
Hailey Knight

Hailey Knight

WasabiPoptart said:
I don't go on Tumblr either.
However, Rudolph has some real issues with sexism, e.g: Clarisse and Mrs. Donner are essentially told to obey their men when they have opinions (in that one whole line Mrs. Donner has). There is also the stereotypically overbearing Mrs. Claus hen-pecking her husband.
There is the message that if you're different in some way then you're worthless, which could also translate to being made fun of for a disability in Rudolph's case and some of the misfit toys (I still don't know what's wrong with that doll and I had a polka dot elephant as a kid, so nothing wrong there either). Hermie is also trying to better himself by entering into a profession, but he is shamed for wanting to rise above his station.
Also, Santa is not jolly. He's an asshole.
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Maybe Santa had the Thinner curse throughout the movie.

I noticed Hermey doesn't have pointy ears, so he might not even be an elf?

Also, never noticed before that Yukon Cornelius carries a revolver in his belt.

OH, I have to ask you guys because this confused the hell out of me--I've watched Rudolph many times since I was 3. I never saw a scene near the end where Yukon discovers a peppermint mine. Does anyone else recall this? Because that wasn't in the movie when we watched it on TV, but it came out of nowhere on the DVD during the finale when Rudolph is leading the sleigh team.
 
DarkAudit

DarkAudit

Zero Esc said:
Maybe Santa had the Thinner curse throughout the movie.

I noticed Hermey doesn't have pointy ears, so he might not even be an elf?

Also, never noticed before that Yukon Cornelius carries a revolver in his belt.

OH, I have to ask you guys because this confused the hell out of me--I've watched Rudolph many times since I was 3. I never saw a scene near the end where Yukon discovers a peppermint mine. Does anyone else recall this? Because that wasn't in the movie when we watched it on TV, but it came out of nowhere on the DVD during the finale when Rudolph is leading the sleigh team.
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There are different edits. The peppermint mine scene was deleted in 1965.
 
Covar

Covar

WasabiPoptart said:
I don't go on Tumblr either.
However, Rudolph has some real issues with sexism, e.g: Clarisse and Mrs. Donner are essentially told to obey their men when they have opinions (in that one whole line Mrs. Donner has). There is also the stereotypically overbearing Mrs. Claus hen-pecking her husband.
There is the message that if you're different in some way then you're worthless, which could also translate to being made fun of for a disability in Rudolph's case and some of the misfit toys (I still don't know what's wrong with that doll and I had a polka dot elephant as a kid, so nothing wrong there either). Hermie is also trying to better himself by entering into a profession, but he is shamed for wanting to rise above his station.
Also, Santa is not jolly. He's an asshole.
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Fair enough, I'm mostly thinking of the song. Some of your later compliants seem to be addressed in the end of the movie though. Hermie becomes a dentist, despite the adversity faced, the misfit toys IIRC get children, and Ruldoph becomes the greatest reindeer of all.
 
Tinwhistler

Tinwhistler

Well, since I complained about Amazon the other day, it's only fair that I praise them today.

I was expecting a package to arrive yesterday. Amazon said it was out for delivery by 8pm. It never showed up. So I looked at the tracking information. It left Amazon's warehouses on the 21st. The day it was supposed to be delivered. So, naturally, I expect it today.

I looked at USPS tracking, and it said it was delivered on the 20th. Since it only left Amazon's warehouses on the 21st, that seems impossible. Especially since nothing at all was delivered on the 20th (Sunday). The post office gave me the runaround saying the carrier claimed they delivered a couple of packages on Sunday. No, sorry, they did not. I was home all day. Nothing was delievered. They said "Well, we'll have the carrier look around" and blew me off. It was clear that she thought I was full of shit.

So I called Amazon, and they were able to apply more leverage/pressure than I could, I guess, and got an official case opened on the missing package. So maybe it'll turn up eventually.

This year's Christmas is turning into a comedy of errors. Not that my son will notice. He's got enough Christmas already. hah
 
Gared

Gared

On the positive side, it is just about time for the holiday baking and cooking to begin in earnest. My cookie cutters and cookie press don't get here until tomorrow, so sugar cookies, spritz cookies, and gingerbread cookies will have to wait, but today's list is shortbread, thumbprints, and pecan and buttermilk pies. Plus stock for soup and rice for fried rice for tomorrow's anniversary dinner.
 
Squidleybits

Squidleybits

blotsfan said:
I've always felt the whole Santa Claus thing was weird.
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When I figured it out my mum always said that those who believe, receive.

I fielded some questions from our daughter last year and I didn't confirm or deny. I used my mum's quote and talked about how fun the idea of Santa is and explained that we don't spoil it for younger kids.
 
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