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Funny (political, religious) pictures
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They are, that's the joke.
Oh. I thought folks were seriously saying that they were rubber bullets.
Halal is the new big thing, but it's getting outlawed in Europe because it's unnecessarily cruel to the animals being slaughtered.
Sure, in theory. Practically, though I literally can't buy non-halal meat in the 5 nearest supermarkets or 3 closest butcher shops from my place.
GasBandit
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ISIS supporter Anjem Choudary once said anyone who drinks "should be given 40 lashes in public". He also tried getting these pictures removed from the internet.
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Really, believe it.
Plenty of you have seen one of these out there.
There are a few variants, but they're all the same theme--Look at how all these symbols get along together.
Well, while visiting my old hometown to get another load of belongings, I got behind a guy with this one:
My first thought was that yes, they can all be (sufficiently) true.
My second thought was, "...and who's to say yours isn't one of the ones that's wrong?"
It took me back to the days of the "Marriage = M + F" bumper stickers that were going around for a while.
--Patrick
There are a few variants, but they're all the same theme--Look at how all these symbols get along together.
Well, while visiting my old hometown to get another load of belongings, I got behind a guy with this one:
My first thought was that yes, they can all be (sufficiently) true.
My second thought was, "...and who's to say yours isn't one of the ones that's wrong?"
It took me back to the days of the "Marriage = M + F" bumper stickers that were going around for a while.
--Patrick
Well, they can't all be 100% true. Whether his (or hers) is one of the wrong ones isn't specifically addressed in the bumper sticker; they may be gambling folks. Or an atheist - that's who I'd imagine to use that bumper sticker. Angry aggressive atheist who feels the need to point out "most of the world" believes in fairy tales of some sort. *shrug* I prefer the coexist ones.
nope. It's one of those "anyone who isn't Christian is WRONG!" types.
That's unfortunately implied by the John 14:6 bit, but it just makes more sense the other way. it's just silly pointing out all the other fairy tales without acknowledging your own.
I don't mean to disrespect religion or the religious, for the record, religion can and does have a lot of impact in a lot of good ways on a lot of people. I'm talking about what i'd imagine their opinion to be, not my own.
I don't mean to disrespect religion or the religious, for the record, religion can and does have a lot of impact in a lot of good ways on a lot of people. I'm talking about what i'd imagine their opinion to be, not my own.
That's the reason I posted it in the "funny religious pictures" thread...because of the glaring hypocrisy.
--Patrick
Would you prefer mythology and mythological entities?
Can I ask, whats the goal of using language like that or "fairy tale" to describe other people's personal religion instead of just plain old "religion"?
Smug superiority?
Necronic
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No, because its intentionally obtuse. The word religion already exists and is far more descriptive (since mythology implies lost/arcane). Consider your choice to use "entities". Even when discussing greek mythology they use the word deity. And I say 'intentionally obtuse' because people incorrectly use the word mythology or 'magic sky fairy' or entity because people are shortcutting around what is a long and convoluted argument by snidely bastardizing language. Doesn't matter if your an atheist or a minister. If you speak English use the damned language correctly.
Note: I should point out that "mythology" does some specific meanings in Abrahamaic religions. For instance Christian Mythology could refer to Apocrypha and some of the stories surrounding them, like the Nephilim/Book of Giants. Or with Jewish Mythology it could be some of those weird "re-telling" stories of the old testament, like the one where Adam slept with all the animals before god decided to make woman, it would also include apocrypha. Lilith would be Abrahamic mythology. And with Muslim mythology you have some of the stuff they inherited from folklore about the Djinn.
GasBandit
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Come now, Necronic. Next you'll be saying that the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" meme was just a juvenile "this is how dumb you look" joke meant solely to ridicule religious faith.
fade
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Might as well expand the argument and say that outright insulting the people you're debating with does not help your case at all, regardless of the argument. And I'm not just talking about the fallacy of ad hominem. Fallacy or not, it just doesn't help psychologically, and may even alienate your supporters.
Necronic
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Which has always been my argument against Dawkins or Hitchens. Or as the dude would say it:
"You're not wrong. You're just an asshole."
And if you don't understand why this is a problem then you've spent too much time in academia or buried in your own ass (often the same thing).[DOUBLEPOST=1409146186,1409146047][/DOUBLEPOST]And let me just add, yes, Fade and I are making a Tone Argument, which is fallacious. Let me reply again:
You're still not wrong. But you're still just an asshole
"You're not wrong. You're just an asshole."
And if you don't understand why this is a problem then you've spent too much time in academia or buried in your own ass (often the same thing).[DOUBLEPOST=1409146186,1409146047][/DOUBLEPOST]And let me just add, yes, Fade and I are making a Tone Argument, which is fallacious. Let me reply again:
You're still not wrong. But you're still just an asshole
Context in (in)action.
They are referring to it in the context of the typical asshat internet atheist POV.... except maybe Necronic. At least that's how I read it.
I did explicitly (I think? too tired to look...) say I meant *from their own point of view*. Someone having a bumper sticker deriding other faiths as take-your-pick-of-insulting-word, better have a damn good reason why theirs is exempt, more generally valid than "'I know it to be true" -since most all religions have people who are thoroughly convinced. Otherwise they're just hypocritical or quite dim-witted.
While *some* versions and interpretations of religion(s) strike me as infantile and/or little more than useless superstition, this certainly does not include most - and even so, it's still that person's prerogative to believe so. Though, if they try to convince me, I will happily belittle them a little bit
While *some* versions and interpretations of religion(s) strike me as infantile and/or little more than useless superstition, this certainly does not include most - and even so, it's still that person's prerogative to believe so. Though, if they try to convince me, I will happily belittle them a little bit
