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Now laugh like your Aunt just died.
If each time you get near a family member, they keel over at the 5 mile mark, you might find it funny.
GasBandit
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I'm actually surprised at all the anguish on the internet today. When I read the books, I barely considered Oberyn a throwaway character (and an irritating one at that because the surname was so close to Tyrell that I kept getting it mixed up)... But the internet's treating it like the second red wedding.
The internet had a huge hard-on for him; that's why.
Necronic
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To me it really was worse than the Red Wedding.
With Stark's execution and the Red Wedding I could sort of see them coming, there were hints and I was cautious. This was the first time I was really snookered. I really fell into the "oh hell yeah now things are gonna happen, how you like THAT TYWIN". I really fell for it. I saw the hamstring and actually said outloud "there's no coming back from that, this fight is over". Then the turnaround, it was so fast. So brutal. Before I even registered the punch to the face he had the thumbs going, which, btw, is one of the goriest scenes I have seen in a long time.
I allowed myself to get emotionally invested in the heroic ideal, which is always what Martin wants to destroy. It was like watching Inigo Montoya recover from his stab wounds shouting his phrase....only to be brutally cut down at the last second.
I allowed myself to get emotionally invested in the heroic ideal, which is always what Martin wants to destroy. It was like watching Inigo Montoya recover from his stab wounds shouting his phrase....only to be brutally cut down at the last second.
No, it appears that instead of disguising her as Allayne (sp) first then hitting a big reveal, they are disguising her afterwards. I think that the big reveal this early is to just save time with all the political shenanigans in the Vale which would require the introduction and back story of too many new characters.I was more weirded out by Sansa in this ep than anything else. Seriously.
Did we just get Goth Slut Sansa? What?
I knew about the other stuff because of the books.
Is anyone else concerned that Arya being alive is known to too many people and the problems it poses
for her wedding?
Geeze. That guy is HUGE.
Regarding that fight: @Necronic, I had long given up hope that people I rooted for would win but I distinctly remember getting to that fight in the book, my assumptions being that The Mountain would make short work of him and after a page or two my heart started racing and I suddenly believed, no I knew, that he was actually going to beat The Mountain. He was going to pull this off. Against all odds he was going to triumph. It was the most elated I had ever been while reading the series.
And then I was utterly crushed in a way nothing else in the series had done to me.
Last night, it was amazing watching it play out but I did it bitterly.
Regarding the violence: It was disturbing and swift. It actually really upset my wife and she couldn't sleep for a long time. It was pretty horrific.
Regarding that fight: @Necronic, I had long given up hope that people I rooted for would win but I distinctly remember getting to that fight in the book, my assumptions being that The Mountain would make short work of him and after a page or two my heart started racing and I suddenly believed, no I knew, that he was actually going to beat The Mountain. He was going to pull this off. Against all odds he was going to triumph. It was the most elated I had ever been while reading the series.
And then I was utterly crushed in a way nothing else in the series had done to me.
Last night, it was amazing watching it play out but I did it bitterly.
Regarding the violence: It was disturbing and swift. It actually really upset my wife and she couldn't sleep for a long time. It was pretty horrific.
Felt the same way. Same as Gas too, where I felt that Oberyn was kind of a throw away in the books. Pedro Pascal really brought him to life wonderfully.
I got into Oberyn in the books, and my experience of the fight mirrored Espy's.
I'm pretty sure Sansa is my favorite* character now
*living**
**assuming Tyrion doesn't take the black***
***or turn into a dragon before they can chop his head off
*living**
**assuming Tyrion doesn't take the black***
***or turn into a dragon before they can chop his head off
GasBandit
Staff member
Sansa's switch from being the victim to taking a bit of possession of her life is pretty great to see in the series.
I haven't read the books, but I've gotten a small handful of things spoiled (Red Wedding
), and some things dumb coworkers said that turned out to be fake spoilers, but just at this point I am pretty much prepared for literally anything to happen and anyone to die or kill someone at pretty much every moment of the TV showI love and hate this series for this reason alone. It used to be my favorite book series until it started going downhill and it now pales badly to another book series I'm reading.
This author has no qualms killing people and makings you get the feels. That's great. There's no "happy ending", people die... a lot of good people die as well. It's hard but makes it memorable. It's how this book got it's fame from the first 3 books.... then you know what happens.... since the Millennium.
But there's still space for the last 2 books... we'll see but at the rate he's writing this stuff, I don't think he'll write it as he'll be dead before that is said and done. The producers are already changing things up a bit because it's obvious that the quality of content available after this season ends takes a sharp... and I mean SHARP drop.
I think Pedro was amazing. I didn't feel much for his character in the book before he made it come to life. In barely a handful of episodes he made us care. He made us believe. To watch him die, particularly as someone who didn't read the book (my wife for example)... the face... was PRICELESS to watch. I turned to her shortly before he died... she was elated. Then as his skull exploded. I turn again and it was like :O
Perfect.
Can I not put spoilers here from Tapatalk? I want to respond to this....
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he is dead though. Dany was warned in one of her trippy visions to beware the mummer's dragon. Varys, who is orchestrating all this, was raised with mummers before being cut. I dont trust Aegon is who they say he is.
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Necronic
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I read a REALLY good description of this series on Reddit. We all know that in this series there is no "Happily Ever After", but the thing I never realized is that this series is what takes place after the happily ever after. The Heroic king Robert distraught over the loss of his betrothed, fighting for love and honor, brings together a large army including others like Stark, seeking noble revenge, and topples the Mad King (who is also part evil dragon or something). He then marries a beautiful woman who desperately loved him and ...happily ever after...
Except the heroic king wasn't really meant to be a king, and the beautiful woman could never replace his lost love, and etc etc etc.
Happily Ever After is what got us in this horrible situation to begin with.
Except the heroic king wasn't really meant to be a king, and the beautiful woman could never replace his lost love, and etc etc etc.
Happily Ever After is what got us in this horrible situation to begin with.
Wow, I totally forgot about that. They may have kept a boy apart and groomed him to be Aegon, and he thinks he's Aegon, but that doesn't make it so.
On one hand, I'm thinking "gee, I hope GRRM remembers that", but then I realize there was no reason to have it in there unless he was already thinking ahead to this point. Fuck, that really turns book 5 on its head.[DOUBLEPOST=1401807084,1401806654][/DOUBLEPOST]
It's one of the things the series does great, to mess with you. In other fictions, that's done by having the antagonist win. But in A Song of Ice and Fire, good or bad, nobody gets what they want. Everyone's plans fuck up right and left, and even if they get something they were after, they lose so much on the way to getting it.
I'll admit, I was yelling "Oh my God" and "Holy SHIT" at the screen when I watched it. I don't think it was so much the character, as the utterly quick and brutal death scene.
Also, mark another gay/bi character off the list. I'd be more pissed if it weren't for the fact that errybody dies horribly, but queer characters seem to have an even shorter shelf life than most.
Also, mark another gay/bi character off the list. I'd be more pissed if it weren't for the fact that errybody dies horribly, but queer characters seem to have an even shorter shelf life than most.