I feel like GRRM enjoys them though. Like one of the Victarion chapters ... it's just a summary of him slitting throats, taking ships, telling slaves they're free when he's just making them his own slaves, etc. Probably pretty easy to peck out in one go.
Probably because they know the TV audience couldn't handle much more pain.
So
Val dies in the next book i take it.
Well, they tapped into the porn industry long before that. Look up Sibel Kekilli who plays Shae.Lol to help flesh out all the women in mole town and crasters wives and wildlings, it appears that GoT tapped into the British porn industry.
Merging Ygritte and Val causes some serious issues for later on:
Book 3 spoilers
So this is either gonna be stupid or require some huge story consequences which would separate it vastly from the events of Dance.
Book 3 spoilers
At the end of book 3, Stannis offers to legitimize Jon Snow into Jon Stark, make him Lord of Winterfell, Warden of the North, and have him marry Val to help seal a peace with the wildlings. Jon refuses because of his vow to the Night's Watch. I don't see him doing that if instead of Val, his bride would be Ygritte. For one, she'd be around the Wall a bunch, and they've gotten used to knocking boots whenever while he was undercover with the wildlings. Second, he'd want to be with her; they've formed a relationship. To stay with the Night's Watch would mean foregoing that forever. He gave up the legitimacy and being Lord of Winterfell and that was already a hard decision, but to throw in Ygritte? That tops it over his oath to the Night's Watch, which he's already broken.
So this is either gonna be stupid or require some huge story consequences which would separate it vastly from the events of Dance.
Not to mention that Ygritte isn't related to anyone, in the show, as far as i recall...
But then again that might just mean they're skipping the offer (which was made because S doesn't understand the wildlings, and was never gonna work) altogether .
I haven't finished season 3, but I don't know if they've laid out Dalla's family tree. It'd be easy to just say she is.
But you might be right. I'd hate for them to skip the offer because even though it wasn't going to work, it's a good moment for Jon. What's not a good moment is how GRRM keeps bringing it up again and again in the first few Jon chapters of Dance.
It's been a while, but as i recall when Ygritte takes Jon to meet Mance she showed no signs of knowing the women there... but then again they didnt name any of them so...
Did they? Granted it's been awhile since I've read the books but I'm trying to remember what they changed…
Dave
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The battle with the mountain clans: In the books, Tyrion grabbed a battle-axe and kicked serious ass, which is when they gave him the name, "Half-Man". In the show they had him knocked unconscious at the beginning and not fight.
The battle at King's Landing: In the books he again went berserk and kicked serious ass, only stopping when he was cut down by guys from his own side because his sister and Joffrey tried to have him killed. In the show, he again went into combat, but instead of the heroic fighter he was, his part was very short and almost an afterthought.
Also, (the only spoilered part)
He's a GREAT character and having him do all of these great things
The battle at King's Landing: In the books he again went berserk and kicked serious ass, only stopping when he was cut down by guys from his own side because his sister and Joffrey tried to have him killed. In the show, he again went into combat, but instead of the heroic fighter he was, his part was very short and almost an afterthought.
Also, (the only spoilered part)
in the books he never fought with Shea, which made her betrayal that much more hurtful. In the show, he's pushing her away and it's not going to be a shock at all. In the books, she proves that she's a whore, in the show she's just a spurned woman getting back at a lover.
He's a GREAT character and having him do all of these great things
makes his downfall that much more distressing. They are ruining that.
BananaHands
Staff member
I mean, she was being unreasonable.
BananaHands
Staff member
Summary of episode by Jay
- Start of show, Robbbbbb's special sword gets recast and two swords come from it. Don't remember this from the books. Great addition. Excellent scene between Jamie and Tywin. WHO GETS THE OTHER SWORD??? SUSPENSE.
- Tyrion is now waiting on the road with his merc buddy and sex demon Pid, Pud or Pod. Whatever the fuck his name is. Anyone else pissed on how they absolutely ruined Tyrion in the show? Great actor chops, shitty writing. Martin fucked up a lot of shit in the books but Tyrion was amazing in Books 2-3.
- Prince Durin's actor looks damn solid. REALLY WEIRD START OF THE BROTHEL SCENE. I don't recall his fucking anything with a heartbeat. Why the fuck are they pushing the gay thing so much? Enough. Is that skank kissing him every 2 seconds the wife of the centurion from Rome? She got OLD-ish.... too much make-up... but I'd still... yeah. Season 4 tit count... 2.... 4. Solid start. Excellent end to scene with the Prince and Lannister soldiers.
- Great scene with the Prince and Tyrion. Did I already mention how annoyed I am with Tyrion's character on the show? They make him such a bitch. Now, this is how I wanted to see Prince Durin. I don't know WTF was happening before. Solid acting. Intense. YES.
- Dany is sitting there with her dragons. Great CGI. Is she wearing jeans? Nice walk past her huge army. WTF is this new Daario guy? The last guy didn't have the blue hair but this guy looks like Eric Bana. Couldn't they get that right on the 2nd try? Decent scene.
- Sansa is crying.
- Shea is begging for some half-man cock. Whining about the situation. Tyrion looks incredibly weak again. They ruined his character. Hated this scene. Shea's acting is limiting to "annoyed" and "annoyed by wanting cock".
- Crazy sister and Jamie scene. Jaime is funny. Nice metal hand. Does the crazy sister have any scene anymore without a drink in her hand? GLUG GLUG GLUG. Good scene.
- Wildling scene. Who the fuck are these new guys? I don't remember them. Eating crow? Is that like a pun or something? Weird scene.
- Jon Snow scene. Perfection. Great acting all around.
- Tyrell scenes are always solid. She's so hot it's ridiculous. And I ain't talking about the old bag nor the amazon woman.
- Jeoffry being Jeoffrey. Awesome. Jaime carries another scene.
- Dany is standing there watching the ocean. Is she wearing jeans? New Daario pretending to be Eric Bana. Got the slave part right though. Solid.
- Sansa is crying. Jaime tries to carry this scene enough to let me care about her situation. Godswood scene was solid.
- Hey there's Arya. They almost forgot her. Is this THAT scene finally? About time. Dog and Arya chemistry is perfect. Too bad they can't interpret Arya's thoughts of "let the rain wash the blood off her sword" into this show. Fight scene was awkward as fuck, too bad the dialogue was great. Arya gets her first kill.
All in all, a story building episode. Solid, nothing amazing. I still can't get over how useless they made Tyrion.
- Start of show, Robbbbbb's special sword gets recast and two swords come from it. Don't remember this from the books. Great addition. Excellent scene between Jamie and Tywin. WHO GETS THE OTHER SWORD??? SUSPENSE.
- Tyrion is now waiting on the road with his merc buddy and sex demon Pid, Pud or Pod. Whatever the fuck his name is. Anyone else pissed on how they absolutely ruined Tyrion in the show? Great actor chops, shitty writing. Martin fucked up a lot of shit in the books but Tyrion was amazing in Books 2-3.
- Prince Durin's actor looks damn solid. REALLY WEIRD START OF THE BROTHEL SCENE. I don't recall his fucking anything with a heartbeat. Why the fuck are they pushing the gay thing so much? Enough. Is that skank kissing him every 2 seconds the wife of the centurion from Rome? She got OLD-ish.... too much make-up... but I'd still... yeah. Season 4 tit count... 2.... 4. Solid start. Excellent end to scene with the Prince and Lannister soldiers.
- Great scene with the Prince and Tyrion. Did I already mention how annoyed I am with Tyrion's character on the show? They make him such a bitch. Now, this is how I wanted to see Prince Durin. I don't know WTF was happening before. Solid acting. Intense. YES.
- Dany is sitting there with her dragons. Great CGI. Is she wearing jeans? Nice walk past her huge army. WTF is this new Daario guy? The last guy didn't have the blue hair but this guy looks like Eric Bana. Couldn't they get that right on the 2nd try? Decent scene.
- Sansa is crying.
- Shea is begging for some half-man cock. Whining about the situation. Tyrion looks incredibly weak again. They ruined his character. Hated this scene. Shea's acting is limiting to "annoyed" and "annoyed by wanting cock".
- Crazy sister and Jamie scene. Jaime is funny. Nice metal hand. Does the crazy sister have any scene anymore without a drink in her hand? GLUG GLUG GLUG. Good scene.
- Wildling scene. Who the fuck are these new guys? I don't remember them. Eating crow? Is that like a pun or something? Weird scene.
- Jon Snow scene. Perfection. Great acting all around.
- Tyrell scenes are always solid. She's so hot it's ridiculous. And I ain't talking about the old bag nor the amazon woman.
- Jeoffry being Jeoffrey. Awesome. Jaime carries another scene.
- Dany is standing there watching the ocean. Is she wearing jeans? New Daario pretending to be Eric Bana. Got the slave part right though. Solid.
- Sansa is crying. Jaime tries to carry this scene enough to let me care about her situation. Godswood scene was solid.
- Hey there's Arya. They almost forgot her. Is this THAT scene finally? About time. Dog and Arya chemistry is perfect. Too bad they can't interpret Arya's thoughts of "let the rain wash the blood off her sword" into this show. Fight scene was awkward as fuck, too bad the dialogue was great. Arya gets her first kill.
All in all, a story building episode. Solid, nothing amazing. I still can't get over how useless they made Tyrion.
GasBandit
Staff member
I thought it was Ned's sword? Am I remembering incorrectly?
They call members of the nightwatch "crows" because they all wear black. "Eating Crow" is an english phrase that means to have to publicly tolerate being wrong. As in, "I said Ron Paul was going to win, now I have to eat crow."
Second. Remember, she killed the stableboy waaay back when she escaped King's Landing?
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GasBandit
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Forrest Gump seemed to do a pretty good job. But then, maybe that's that expensive, difficult CG you were talking about.