Video Game News and Miscellany
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So, apparently Assassin's Creed 4 on PC is an unoptimized, poorly running mess. They promised earlier (also at the same time that the PC version wouldn't be mysteriously delayed this time, another lie) this year that it wouldn't be the same mess AC3 was. Ubisoft's stance on why it's so shitty isn't to work on fixing it, it's fucking garbage like this:
http://www.videogamer.com/pc/assass...ucer_says_pc_optimisation_isnt_important.html
Well, I guess they can be thrown back into the pit of shitty, garbage companies. It had seemed like they had begun to crawl out of it. Fuck these assholes. Again, you can't be bothered to make a game run smoothly without forcing me to brute force run it well with hardware that's literally another scale in power compared to the consoles, then fuck you, I can't be bothered to buy your games. I remember when Ubi saw a dramatic loss in PC sales after their DRM policies got draconian. Hopefully, this happens again. Fuck these guys.
http://www.videogamer.com/pc/assass...ucer_says_pc_optimisation_isnt_important.html
Well, I guess they can be thrown back into the pit of shitty, garbage companies. It had seemed like they had begun to crawl out of it. Fuck these assholes. Again, you can't be bothered to make a game run smoothly without forcing me to brute force run it well with hardware that's literally another scale in power compared to the consoles, then fuck you, I can't be bothered to buy your games. I remember when Ubi saw a dramatic loss in PC sales after their DRM policies got draconian. Hopefully, this happens again. Fuck these guys.
There aren't enough facepalms in the world.
As long as they keep putting out quality Walking Dead seasons, I'm good.
Maaaaaaaaaaaaan, Microsoft first party games are all microtransactiony messes. Forza 5 is apparently the most egregious example of this, stripping out tons of features from Forza 4 that helped you gain credits/tokens/whatever and astronomically raising the prices of new vehicles.
Bullshit reason from the devs:
Token prices.
Bullshit reason from the devs:
Token prices.
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How do you know he will never have an xbone? We're all gamers here, and so we are going to have opinions on how the big names in the industry are making horrible fucking precedent.
I would love for the xbone to be -good-. Good products among the top companies leads to good competition, which is good for all consumers.
So I should just shut up and stop voicing my dislike for the practice? Forza 5 isn't a free to play game. It's 60 bucks. It's a 60 dollar game, with day one DLC vehicles that you have to pay for, THEN, you have to pay for again ingame for credits/tokens. It's. Fucking. Disgusting.
You can earn those credits without buying tokens, but as always with these sorts of microtransactions, they make it arduous and grindy to incentivize the purchase of tokens. Forza 5 did away with the auction house and selling custom paint jobs and such from Forza 4 that helped players augment their ingame income. Can't undermine the selling of those tokens can they?
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Is it just me, or do those token prices make no sense? Buy the 100 tokens 4 times to get 400 tokens for less than the cost of buying 325, buy 325 twice to get 650 for the price of 575, buy 1250 5 times to get 6250 for the price of buying 2700 twice and only getting 5400, or buy 100 tokens 80 times to get 8000 for $79.20 instead of $99.99.
Token prices.
Shouldn't buying more tokens at once work out cheaper per individual token than the small batches? Or am I missing something?
Because they're expensive.
Because they would require me to replace most of my living room entertainment components to be able to connect it to anything.
Because I would then have to purchase games on top of all that.
$$$$+$$$$+$$$$+$$$$...Yeah, I'm out.
Have you ever gone shopping at Target?
When the "Family Size" is more expensive than 2x "normal" size, then it just seems like they're flat-out taking advantage of people who can't do arithmetic.
--Patrick
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It's the most ridiculous shit.[DOUBLEPOST=1385252069,1385251519][/DOUBLEPOST]I've read some shit where people are claiming that these predatory microtransaction schemes are because of they had to go back on the original no used games stance they debuted the console with.
As fucking if.
From an employee of T10:
I saw someone speculate that the option for three hundred tokens was added later (if you shift them over, you see the base tokens would mostly match at about 100 per dollar) and they didn't properly readjust the prices.
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GasBandit
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Those token prices make no sense. Buying larger quantities should have a per-unit discount, shouldn't it? If the smallest increment (100 tokens) basically is a cent per token, 325 for 5 bucks is a bad deal, 575 for 10 bucks is a horrible deal, and it just keeps getting worse from there. 8000 tokens should cost you just shy of 80 bucks if you buy them 100 at a time, instead of 100 bucks to buy them all at once.Maaaaaaaaaaaaan, Microsoft first party games are all microtransactiony messes. Forza 5 is apparently the most egregious example of this, stripping out tons of features from Forza 4 that helped you gain credits/tokens/whatever and astronomically raising the prices of new vehicles.
Bullshit reason from the devs:
Token prices.
Edit - oh look there was another page of posts that asked and answered this. /headdesk
GasBandit
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Eurogamer - What happens when free-to-play games aren't free?
A little too open, it turns out. There are aspects of free-to-play design in the bulk of the Xbox One's launch titles: Ryse has microtransactions that aid progress in its multiplayer mode, while Crimson Dragon's single-player path can also be given a little helping hand by buying in-game currency with real-world money. Elsewhere, Forza Motorsport 5 allows you to boost the rate at which you gain XP for a little extra cost, or to spend money to fast-track your way to a higher end motor. They're all systems proven in the world of free-to-play, but there's a problem: none of these games are free.
A little too open, it turns out. There are aspects of free-to-play design in the bulk of the Xbox One's launch titles: Ryse has microtransactions that aid progress in its multiplayer mode, while Crimson Dragon's single-player path can also be given a little helping hand by buying in-game currency with real-world money. Elsewhere, Forza Motorsport 5 allows you to boost the rate at which you gain XP for a little extra cost, or to spend money to fast-track your way to a higher end motor. They're all systems proven in the world of free-to-play, but there's a problem: none of these games are free.
What I suspect is going to happen? They'll make a little money, but nowhere near as much as with F2P. Forza isn't EVE, where owning a $100 ship is a big advantage not just to you, but all who do business with you. It's just a racing game. Some people will pay $100 for that car, but very few will. It will, however, be lower rated and less popular with people who actually care about Forza. I know I was sure as hell pissed when I heard the new Ace Combat title is going to be F2P, because it means I'm probably never going to get a full experience out of it. However, some 3rd VP at Namco is probably getting a new office by trying to cash in on it.
F2P mechanics break games by design. Not by accident, but by design. This is why they are bad games, or at least badly designed.
Got my GameInformer yesterday. I normally don't care about Lord of the Rings/Middle-Earth games, but Shadow of Mordor sounds like a winner to me. Some of the battle mechanics sound similar to the Batman Arkham games, but more crucial is the Nemesis system, where the developers are creating a persistent world where your actions among the orc armies have effects such as who's in charge, who's strong, how armies move, battle fronts, whether you have allies. If you die, you'll come back, but time moves forward, so death has a consequence on where your strategies and schemes go without your presence to influence them.
It all sounds great at least; I'm hoping they can deliver on the promise of their intentions. If so, it's a must-buy for me next year. And hear I thought they were done with my PS3. I'm glad that for a while yet games will still be coming out for both next gen and current gen consoles.
It all sounds great at least; I'm hoping they can deliver on the promise of their intentions. If so, it's a must-buy for me next year. And hear I thought they were done with my PS3. I'm glad that for a while yet games will still be coming out for both next gen and current gen consoles.
This is my first foray into the Forza franchise, so I don't have any prior experince dealing with the game. But I don't see where there is anything that will be exclusively available with tokens or real-world cash. They're just enabling people with more money than brains a shortcut to the "endgame" as it were. Yes the Indycars that I'm most likely to enjoy are high-end (3M credits) but meh, it's something to strive for.
The inflated prices for the cars might also take into account the "Drivatar" system. Last night my drivatar competed in 2 races & earned me 3K credits. I would hope with higher driver level & better drivatar sync that it will compete in more races of more importance, earning more credits. Looks like I have to log in every day to collect the credits however, but we'll see how lucrative it can become.
The inflated prices for the cars might also take into account the "Drivatar" system. Last night my drivatar competed in 2 races & earned me 3K credits. I would hope with higher driver level & better drivatar sync that it will compete in more races of more importance, earning more credits. Looks like I have to log in every day to collect the credits however, but we'll see how lucrative it can become.
Sounds like Forza merged with a facebook game.
It's too late at night for this shit.
That certainly brings new meaning to "escalated quickly."